Jumping the gun a little, but I want to prepare my data.
Would it be smarter to flash a Stock Gingerbread ROM before receiving the OTA for ICS when the time comes? I still get the stupid EL29 notification. I am not looking to get rid of it.... it just does nothing. But in the future after the OTA for ICS- I want to make sure I don't see this again.
I think its a good question on whether or not the OTA's include enough to jump previous OTA's with that answered ( was thinking something similar the other day) you will know if you need to be on EL29 or not anyways.
To recieve via OTA you should be on a rather stock rom with root being an okay change. But your going to lose root eitherway. Any changes and or coming from a non official rom can result in a disaster.
To go to a rooted ICS you should just ODIN the tar when it becomes available. Same way you would root an EL29 phone since EK02 is the last version that can be zerged. The official updates if not here the day of is usually only a day or two off from being available here in rooted tar form.
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So I recently found out I'm unable to install OTA Android updates to my phone if it's rooted.
So what can I do once ICS is released for the GS2? Will there be a download online that I can just flash with ODIN? Or are people going to be forced to unroot if they want the official ICS stock?
Most likely samfirmware aka sammobile will release an odin .tar, so you'll be good to go with odin.
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saj1jr said:
So I recently found out I'm unable to install OTA Android updates to my phone if it's rooted.
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That's not true. You will be unable to install OTA patch-style updates if you have modified one of the files being patched. If you rooted with Auto Root and that's all you did, you will be able to install OTA patch-style updates even without unrooting (though the update will disable root)
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So what can I do once ICS is released for the GS2? Will there be a download online that I can just flash with ODIN? Or are people going to be forced to unroot if they want the official ICS stock?
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I'm sure there will be an ODIN update within a few days or maybe even the same day. You can also flash EK02 and let the OTA update upgrade you (or if you've just rooted with Auto Root, just let the OTA update run), though you are probably better off waiting for an update from XDA, because the updates from here will attempt to keep your rooting and upgrade options as open as possible.
I'll also probably have an OTA compliance check for the next official update so you can tell immediately which files are not in compliance with what the update expects. I have one for EG30 to EK02 as part of the Auto Root package, so it would be similar in functionality.
First rule: Never take an OTA update if you care about rooting.
Any file made available from sprint or samsung will have a rooted/safe version posted in the dev section within a few hours of release.
I know samsung is pretty nice to us rooters but you never know when that might change.
lafester said:
First rule: Never take an OTA update if you care about rooting.
Any file made available from sprint or samsung will have a rooted/safe version posted in the dev section within a few hours of release.
I know samsung is pretty nice to us rooters but you never know when that might change.
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Is there a way to block OTAs? I'm running Calkulin's 2.8 if that matters.
Relax427 said:
Is there a way to block OTAs? I'm running Calkulin's 2.8 if that matters.
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There is a thread on blocking them in the wiki, provided here for your ease.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1388778
If you are worried about the OTA messing something up, it'll download and ask to install, but if you've made any changes to your ROM, including installing CWM, then it will fail the integrity check and won't install, so nothing will change.
I don't understand the OP's dilemma. Just wait a couple of hours after the OTA update and get a rooted version of the update... no problem!
It won't be out for a few more months anyways. It isn't even being tested yet. I doubt an initial build is even at Samsung. They are working on the the Galaxy S2 right now(the GSM overseas version). And, I am sure Sprint will sell some other phone with ICS stock before they update ours.
Even though I'll probably be on to a new phone by the time the Inc 2 receives its OTA ICS update, I nevertheless want to be able to upgrade to it when it arrives. My question is, will the nandroid backup I have (Android version 2.3.3 with superuser but none of the bloat removed) be able to receive it? Or will I need to go through the whole process of unrooting and restoring 2.3.4 first?
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tattedupboy said:
Even though I'll probably be on to a new phone by the time the Inc 2 receives its OTA ICS update, I nevertheless want to be able to upgrade to it when it arrives. My question is, will the nandroid backup I have (Android version 2.3.3 with superuser but none of the bloat removed) be able to receive it? Or will I need to go through the whole process of unrooting and restoring 2.3.4 first?
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you wouldnt want to take the ota regardless as it will likely block root and might bring an hboot that cannot be reverted from
id imagine we d get a leak of the ota ahead of time or just wait for a dev to make an update.zip version of it once its pulled from the servers or a phone
I also had a question about the OTA update. I HTC unlocked and rooted with SU and CWM recovery. I do have some of the bloated apps uninstalled with Titanium Backup. As soon as I heard that the upgrade for ICS was coming out, I flashed the stock recovery from the most recent RUU. Does anyone forsee any problems recieving the ICS OTA with this setup?
Well, not sure I would have done it that way... with the stock recovery you lose CWM's capabilities waiting for Vzw to release the ICS upgrade, and that could take months and months. Additionally, if you accept the ICS OTA my guess is that you'll lose root as well, and be stuck with Vzw's typical bloatware until you re-root. And we don't know if the new OTA will be immediately re-rootable. Some of the previous upgrades have required reverting to earlier versions.
As nitsuj17 remarks a few posts earlier, I would imagine that once the ICS upgrade for the Dinc2 is released, somebody will quickly get hold of it and post up a version for us rooted folks and we can just flash it from CWM. And use TB or AntTek App manager or whatever tool is your favorite to freeze or delete the Vzw crap. That's what I'm planning to do...
Can you get OTA on AOKP? I switched back to EL29 Gingerbread. But it keeps saying no firmware update is available so I'm just wondering if they would of missed me or something.
I want the update they send out to the phones just incase of anything, such as modems and connection issues.
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Can you get OTA on AOKP? I switched back to EL29 Gingerbread. But it keeps saying no firmware update is available so I'm just wondering if they would of missed me or something.
I want the update they send out to the phones just incase of anything, such as modems and connection issues.
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Any of the custom ROMs built on FF18 will contain the same thing that OTA had - it has been checked against the leak already.
And no, you cannot pick up OTA on AOKP - stock (rooted/unrooted) only.
If you were still running AOPK, no you wouldn't see it. But since you flashed back to EL29 you will get the OTA. From what I've read the OTA is rolling out in waves. Your region may not have had it rolled out yet.
Why don't you just flash the rooted OTA from the dev section??? Again from what I've read there were no changes made to the OTA from the leaked version of FF18. And word to the wise, if you were to take the OTA you would have to root all over again.
If your having radio or signal issues try flashing a couple different modems till you find one the works for your area.
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So has anyone actually received the ICS update over the air or is everyone just getting it from here? Just asking because me & a couple of my friends have been checking like on the hour for the past few days and haven't gotten the update. They have returned their phones to stock and my wife's E4GT has been stock since day one. She doesn't trust rooting anymore after all the problems we had with the original Epic.
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I didnt bother trying. But friend of mine with the same phone got it on launch day by the time i got the chance to even tell him there was going to be an OTA he laughed and sent me the screen shot of the update message.
I reverted to FF18 to update PRL and Profile and pull a couple APK's now that we know the leak was the OTA and it was back to CM9 for me.
Mind you if your looking to be rooted, the only root method is to flash the FF18 tar (one click of course available) which is going to overwrite the firmware data with the same firmware data so unless you want to test unrooted there isn't much point in wasting time with the OTA. Also keep in mind it has not been found in the available kernel code that FF18 is safe to factory reset, etc on. Might be in compiled binaries like the eMMC driver but not worth the risk. Grab TWRP or Agat's kernel or something if your going custom. A rooted cwm zip is now available in addition to the stock ota update.zip thats on googles servers.
So I found out that I have Jelly Bean sitting in my queue for a OTA update. Went to install it but I cannot because I am rooted. I have scoured the internet to find out the best method of getting this update on my phone but have been successful in truly finding a solution. I am new to the android platform and just got my SGS3 a few weeks ago.
Not sure if I should unroot my phone first (looks like I just flash ICS back on to my phone to remove root?) or if there is a version of the official OTA release floating around that I could use to flash over without need of unrooting.
I have spent 2 days searching the internet, reading these forums, and watching youtue videos but I still do not have a clear understanding for what I am asking which is why I have posted.
I understand new software sometimes has a waiting period before you are able to update it with hacked system.. is that what we are in right now? Waiting for the proper resources to be updated to allow this update?
Thanks!
you can go into your superuser app and unroot but im pretty sure it is not a jb ota
More than likely, it's just the LH9 firmware update. Still ICS,and not JB. IF you want the update, there is a thread that has it as flashable zips.
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More than likely, it's just the LH9 firmware update. Still ICS,and not JB. IF you want the update, there is a thread that has it as flashable zips.
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oh ok, i see the leak but I was hoping to use an official release so it was "100%" functional. I guess I will wait. Thanks for the helpful response!