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Well Hello Fellows...
As u ppls can see on my Sig...i just returned my Htc G1 due to some keyboard issue..and i m ready to do some nasty work for my TP2 but i need some answers before doing something with my TP2..
1st-- y we need some custom rom like 6.5.5...while we are already getting everything on the stock rom..and custom roms are same as stock rom some of the difference that the apps tab icons are big(as i am seeing on Custom Rom )<---- Prove me if i m wrong about it
2nd-- i m sooooooo exited to see android on HP2 and i really appreciate the hard work of the developers but i will wait till complete rom comes out ...and my main cause was to buy that machine is to use android on it but i need some user experience.....
3-- i want to know that difference between dual boot ..
3a --- as i saw that a dev created an app that we can directly boot android when we turn on the phone without booting in to WM...
3b---other is that 1st we need to turn on windows mobile then android ...
4--i will ask later when i get my other answers
i want to know which process is best like which process drain minimum battery and run android kinda normal speed...i know that its not that fast but come on ..
these are the main ques that are like dancing all time in my mind..Plz ignore my dictionary and answer my ques
ThankYou..
1. Different ROMs provide different experiences. For instance, the 6.5.x ROMs have a more finger-friendly navigation altogether, with the Windows Start button being at the bottom of the screen instead of the top.
Different ROMs will also give you different benefits. NRGZ ROM comes cooked with a radio app that doesn't need headphones (but of course, if you have a CDMA TP2, you won't have a radio to begin with). Deep Shine ROM makes the most of the Zoom Bar down at the bottom of the screen of your TP2. And Valkyrie's ROMs (the one I use) provides the most stability.
Note though that 6.5.x ROMs tend to be slower than most stock-ROMs.
2. You should just try Android for yourself. In my experience, Android was good. I actually downloaded the Facebook app with it, right after I downloaded the Facebook app for WinMo. So it was funny to see those two updates on my Facebook.
Regardless, sound doesn't work, and Camera doesn't work. When those two functions work, I myself will probably be using Android more than WinMo. I don't care much about BT. Look in the Android section of this sub-forum, find out for yourself.
3. Dual-boot simply allows you to boot one operating system first. So say you didn't want to boot WinMo first, then Android, the dev's app allows your to just boot Android first before WinMo. Simple as that.
Ask anything else, but take a look around first.
thanks buddy for your quick reply
well i have Vodafone Tp2..idk that is Cdma or not right now i using stock rom for windows mobile 6.5.5..that what the device says it have Sense UI i think TF3d 2.5...so i saw not much difference between my stock rom and the custom rom..and for the android ques well i was asking that which way is better ot use android like i think if i boot throught windows mobile then windows mobile will also take some ram else if i directly turn on android then android will use all the ram.and atleast runs better for this direct process and drain less battery....thats what i think and well i watched alot of videos and surfing web for this like 2weeks before asking these ques....
4---well for some games i want to use fpecse emulator...so any way to overclock the tp2..becoz i saw some of the videos of the emulator on Hd2 .. it runs the game pretty smooth...
5--App2SD..well can we use ap2sd on TP2 while using android?? <---Dump ques
4. There isn't a way (yet) to overclock your TP2. Oddly enough, Android on the TP2 is overclocked. But overclocking it via WinMo isn't possible as of current.
Regardless, playing certain games on FPSCE like FF7 works just fine. The more graphically enhanced the game is, the more the phone will lag. Every game I've loaded onto my phone (including the graphically beautiful Call of Duty 2) has worked just fine. Certain games are only in VGA, so download the WVGA fix (it's located in the "Programs to Download for your TP2" thread in the sub-section "Themes and Apps").
5. I wouldn't know about that, but if you want to put programs on your SD card, I believe they have a fix for that in the Android programs already. So, see that thread in "Android Development."
thanks mate for your quick reply .. well what about ram consuming?? speed effects.. direct android boot or android through windmo??
i know that i need to test it my self but also want to know the ppls expreience about android
So i have a problem with game called Pocket Legends. My TP2 cant find it in android market otherwise when i download it from web and install it, it wont run.
I tried it on froyo 2.2 and gingerbread 2.3 with 3d drivers (anry birds works well)
Any solutions? maybe tp2 have wrong resolution for this game?
Can't expect games to work flawlessly... they don't work flawlessly on all native Android devices.
Maybe someone who has played this game has a solution. Otherwise, I wouldn't worry about it until the project is more stable.
It seems to me most people don't care about testing and improving the project, they just want Android to play games. Which is fine I guess, but it clogs up the forums with a lot of garbage. Sigh... If only we were all kernel devs, the project would've been done a year ago
Is it possible to install Meego 1.3 (the same of Nokia N9) on Xperia Play, on dual Boot?
NuclearMind said:
Is it possible to install Meego 1.3 (the same of Nokia N9) on Xperia Play, on dual Boot?
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An interesting idea. I think Maemo might be easier for devs to implement in the short term though.
Yeah an nteresting idea, you'll need to port the FW version off the N9 and not the public release cuz that looks nothing like the one on the N9.
It would be alot of work i think as some of it, from the N9 version, is closed source.
Some devs has been working on an android port to the Nokia N900, to dual boot into, for like 18 month now and they have got most of it working, exept the phone part wich is still not fully working. Afaik i know thay're on android 2.3.5 now.
So a nice idea, but in reallity not doable without alot of time put into it and even then it might not be doable or fully working.
The plays specs should support it.
Regards Dousan...
e: afaik know it's 'only' Meego 1.2 Harmatten and not 1.3
Thanks for your replies. I love Xperia Play games and emulator, but Meego 1.3 seems to be awesome, and mainly different.
I would try it on some other phone first. Galaxy S2 would be a great choice, because it is a fairly simple yet powerful phone.
if somebody somehow ported meego to the xperia play you would almost certainly loose use of the touchpads, that kinda makes the controller part of the play a litte useless then.
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if somebody somehow ported meego to the xperia play you would almost certainly loose use of the touchpads, that kinda makes the controller part of the play a litte useless then.
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Yeah you would loose the use of the touchpads, but that wouldn't be an issue if it was done as a dualboot. Boot into Meego as everyday phone and boot into android/SE FW whenever you would like to play and still be able recieve calls etc. This taken someone could port it fully wich i personally doubt we'll see happen.
It would need to boot on the same kernel as the play can't natively flash kernels or you would need a to boot it from a pc, but then it would be more a proof of concept more than anything else, cuz if rebooted you would go into android again and need a pc to boot Meego once again. On my old Nokia N900 it could natively flash kernels on the go. So when booting into android from maemo it would flash the kernel that was needed and vice versa to boot up in the choise of OS.
Regards Dousan...
hello developers,
i had an idea and a request
why not you guys work on other custom roms to make them compatible for WFS????
its a good idea coz there are many cool Roms out there...
like Xperia,walkman series rom,acer got a cool rom too....even Dell got a cool looking GUI
people have different tastes....CM7.2 is a simply great rom....but people may not like the GUI
sense GUI is faar better than CM7.2
why not developers work on custom roms from other android phones?? ))
that will be great ^___^
plz dont consider my post as spam..i just suggested this thing....starting a poll ...if people will like my idea they'll support it..
i dont know if i'm the only one to love the custom rom's GUi o.o
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There is another request...
in market(public market not android market)
windows mobile 7 is quite popular these days...
why not developers work on windows mobile 7 OS compatible for WFS
since unlocking boot loader = we can install all the OS
being an WFS developer and WFs user we should have many options
like i said everyone have different tastes...who knows who likes what?
users should have many options in there hand like what to install.....
you cant because of different hardware configurations and kernel. its like porting sense to samsung which cant be done. next time post in general section.
If you're just looking for GUI. download launchers like launcher 7, go launcher ex.. something like that.
blackpearlisuchiha said:
hello developers,
i had an idea and a request
why not you guys work on other custom roms to make them compatible for WFS????
its a good idea coz there are many cool Roms out there...
like Xperia,walkman series rom,acer got a cool rom too....even Dell got a cool looking GUI
people have different tastes....CM7.2 is a simply great rom....but people may not like the GUI
sense GUI is faar better than CM7.2
why not developers work on custom roms from other android phones?? ))
that will be great ^___^
plz dont consider my post as spam..i just suggested this thing....starting a poll ...if people will like my idea they'll support it..
i dont know if i'm the only one to love the custom rom's GUi o.o
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There is another request...
in market(public market not android market)
windows mobile 7 is quite popular these days...
why not developers work on windows mobile 7 OS compatible for WFS
since unlocking boot loader = we can install all the OS
being an WFS developer and WFs user we should have many options
like i said everyone have different tastes...who knows who likes what?
users should have many options in there hand like what to install.....
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if possible u go ahead and start work don't give these types of ideas
Mindhexer is right. Good dream though. Get you a HD2 if you want a windows &/or android phone; although, porting to android may knock out your volume toggle :/ honestly very very hard to port to a new os, but you'd have a slightly easier time of it going from open source to open source [ie hp touchpad; and that's not easy by any means]. Basically you will have to find in many cases drivers that work or have a decompiler [thousands of $] and a lot of programming knowledge [and free time]. Simply not feasible for our device; even though, I love to say anything is possible; I'd bite my tongue, hope you were Richie Rich, and point you toward some brilliant dev teams; Again though, you'd probably have another device that started windows [definately closed sources] and got ported over. I have yet to see one go the other way and it would probably open the door to legal issues to attempt :S So, in short, nope.
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insink71 said:
Mindhexer is right. Good dream though. Get you a HD2 if you want a windows &/or android phone; although, porting to android may knock out your volume toggle :/ honestly very very hard to port to a new os, but you'd have a slightly easier time of it going from open source to open source [ie hp touchpad; and that's not easy by any means]. Basically you will have to find in many cases drivers that work or have a decompiler [thousands of $] and a lot of programming knowledge [and free time]. Simply not feasible for our device; even though, I love to say anything is possible; I'd bite my tongue, hope you were Richie Rich, and point you toward some brilliant dev teams; Again though, you'd probably have another device that started windows [definately closed sources] and got ported over. I have yet to see one go the other way and it would probably open the door to legal issues to attempt :S So, in short, nope.
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hmmmmmm...i just thought it would be a good ides coz i saw a video on youtube.....his Xperia X8 was running Htc sense......
o.o
Xperia is overrated man. [IMHO]
Use your lovely phone while you can, like the other hundreds of us.
Its not possible to do any of those ports. End of story
I do wanted WP7 on my WFS but our phone doesnt clear few minimum specs..........we could use the WP7 port of the HD2 but because of the difference in the processor(and the shipped OS)....only an EXTREMELY TALENTED dev can accomplish this feat
BTW,we can try ubuntu can we???
djpc said:
Its not possible to do any of those ports. End of story
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yes correct, end of story.
Possibility to use launchers themes looks like WP or Xperia.
If its just the looks, just use some launcher, there are many themes/skins... or make them yourself, its far easier than doing what u suggested, and it would be too much job for something that is not that big from my point of view.
m1ndh4x8r said:
you cant because of different hardware configurations and kernel. its like porting sense to samsung which cant be done. next time post in general section.
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Pretty sure they ported Android 2.2 to the Samsung Omnia II (Windows 7 mobile)...
Maybe i'm going to make a CyanUX for the WFS ;-) (CyanogenMOD / Sony mix)
I will maybe make MIUI for WFS (based on CM7, fully themed, debloated and lots of MIUI apps).
Anything is possible, but porting one rom to a different phone is a never ending battle. Beside the the only real benefit would be a performance port, gui can be accomplish as mentioned in above post. If you really want to see this happen pick your favorite dev and put him or her on payroll, truthfully they should be getting paid for the work their doing now.
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Maybe i'm going to make a CyanUX for the WFS ;-) (CyanogenMOD / Sony mix)
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please do...and must make it look cool .....atleast the GUI
and functionally better,...dint liked the look and way of working of CM as compared to sense...o_o
All the things you need
blackpearlisuchiha said:
please do...and must make it look cool .....atleast the GUI
and functionally better,...dint liked the look and way of working of CM as compared to sense...o_o
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For Xperia Sony style, you dont need a whole new rom.
Two things, and cm7 will look totally different:
Xperia Launcher
Xperia Theme, install and choose it from the theme chooser app
Hope this helps, click thanks!
Henry_01 said:
I will maybe make MIUI for WFS (based on CM7, fully themed, debloated and lots of MIUI apps).
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MIUI will take a lot of GUI resize work, I think. But can be done.
Best to wait for latest MIUI release with ICS after CM9 is ported by the WFSDEV guys.
No resizing needed for miui, I use cm7 and theme it and add miui apps which are ported and confirmed working.
For CM9, I'm part of the devteam, and it will take some time for a working cm9.
The "real" MIUI will never come to WFS, due to hardware (screen and cpu).
I have to say it isn't that great in all the aspects either.
There aren't many languages supported, you dont have the cyanogenmod settings and its sometimes slow and battery hungry.
The best I think is to combine the power of cm7 with the beauty of MIUI.
Henry_01 said:
No resizing needed for miui, I use cm7 and theme it and add miui apps which are ported and confirmed working.
For CM9, I'm part of the devteam, and it will take some time for a working cm9.
The "real" MIUI will never come to WFS, due to hardware (screen and cpu).
I have to say it isn't that great in all the aspects either.
There aren't many languages supported, you dont have the cyanogenmod settings and its sometimes slow and battery hungry.
The best I think is to combine the power of cm7 with the beauty of MIUI.
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Yeah, guess you are right.
BUT, I CAN'T GET THE DAMN STATUSBAR TO BE TRANSPARENT. I've tried everything.
With the release date of the Ubuntu phone Images announced, are any developers preparing to port it the the arc? I hope the spec can handle it as I would love Ubuntu to see my beloved Arc out!
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/operators-and-oems
minimal specs are :512 mb -1 gb ram+
4-8GB eMMC + SD - we dont have enoth storge we have only 1 gb....
1ghz procesor +
Will ubuntu pwned android?
Hmmm short term answer will be NO
But long term, we wont know
what is eMMC?
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what is eMMC?
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It's internal storage
What if we use a mod like data2sd adatped for Ubuntu OS? Like the users of Asus Transformer, that used fast class 10 sd cards to dump all the system related files there? Will that be a possible solution?
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Porting Ubuntu Phone to Xperia Arc (S)
Jet70355 said:
What if we use a mod like data2sd adatped for Ubuntu OS? Like the users of Asus Transformer, that used fast class 10 sd cards to dump all the system related files there? Will that be a possible solution?
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It depends. You don't need to port stuff like data2sd, the best solution would be to mount some directories at the sdcard which aren't immediatly needed at boot. I want it as well, but I'm still rather unexperienced with porting os'es to ARM devices. I do know something about linux.
For example: In my (basically unused) Ubuntu installation (I run Arch Linux as main OS) 75% of the total 2.5 GiB is used by the dir '/usr'. If we could mount that on the sdcard, 1 GB is plenty for the rest. Putting '/usr' on another partition/disk is not that uncommon in linux, so it should work. Also, if you download applications, most of it goes in /usr. (other directories we have to put on the sdcard are /opt (some kind of /usr) and /home ofcourse)
Space is no problem. One of the problems is that the Xperia Arc runs on an ARMv7 processor, and the Galaxy Nexus (which will receive Ubuntu Phone on 22 feb) is ARMv9.
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It depends. You don't need to port stuff like data2sd, the best solution would be to mount some directories at the sdcard which aren't immediatly needed at boot. I want it as well, but I'm still rather unexperienced with porting os'es to ARM devices. I do know something about linux.
For example: In my (basically unused) Ubuntu installation (I run Arch Linux as main OS) 75% of the total 2.5 GiB is used by the dir '/usr'. If we could mount that on the sdcard, 1 GB is plenty for the rest. Putting '/usr' on another partition/disk is not that uncommon in linux, so it should work. Also, if you download applications, most of it goes in /usr. (other directories we have to put on the sdcard are /opt (some kind of /usr) and /home ofcourse)
Space is no problem. One of the problems is that the Xperia Arc runs on an ARMv7 processor, and the Galaxy Nexus (which will receive Ubuntu Phone on 22 feb) is ARMv9.
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I heard that the processor isn't a big problem, as it should run on wide range of devices. Something about kernels or something...
Processor
replicant101 said:
I heard that the processor isn't a big problem, as it should run on wide range of devices. Something about kernels or something...
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'Big' is relative of course. We will need to compile everything for ARMv7, because I assume Canonical won't have repositories for every architecture possible from the start. If Canonical releases ARMv7 stuff from the start, the main problem would be to get the different components to work, just like an Android ROM. Ubuntu Phone will use Android drivers they said, so hopefully it'll work.
If there's anyone that wants this on their Xperia Arc S and wants to help as well, please contact me or post something in this forum.
I will try my best to get this up and running on the Arc, but I can't promise anything. I'm not an experienced developer.
evertheylen said:
'Big' is relative of course. We will need to compile everything for ARMv7, because I assume Canonical won't have repositories for every architecture possible from the start. If Canonical releases ARMv7 stuff from the start, the main problem would be to get the different components to work, just like an Android ROM. Ubuntu Phone will use Android drivers they said, so hopefully it'll work.
If there's anyone that wants this on their Xperia Arc S and wants to help as well, please contact me or post something in this forum.
I will try my best to get this up and running on the Arc, but I can't promise anything. I'm not an experienced developer.
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i am ready to help, although i dont have any experience with these kinds of developement.
i have an lt18i.
I think we are waiting on ubuntu to publish the wiki page about how to port it to other devices, once its up then we can have a crack at it
It is published. unfortunately i cant sync those HUGE sources because of low diskspace left (for compiling which has been taken up by other projects). hopefully as i clean up, you may expect a build soon. I said may, not will.
disc space isn't an issue over this end, how big is it?
Edit: 15GB, thats a big download.. D:
Around 15 gigs I think. With more needed for binary compiling. It says so in the guide
Im on a 40gb download limit a month, and I've already used most of it up :/
i would love to have a port of this
but unfortunatly, i am not able to help, as i do not know how to succesfully port
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Stupid computer y u no fast
I'm ready to help, I'm not s dev but would be willing to test though.
Roland
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Hello everyone, I want, just like you, Ubuntu Touch on my Xperia Arc (S). I'm willing to spend a lot of time on it, although I'm not an experienced developer, I think I might be able to do it. For the moment, I have no immediate plans to port it, I'm first trying to understand it better. I've already encountered a lot of possible problems, but thank Canonical that they have made Ubuntu Touch so easy to port. (based on CM 10.1, using the same display driver, ...)
I would like to have a list of people that want to help or test. I'm not a real fan of doing everything in a forum, so perhaps we could make a google project or so. What do you think?
As someone's who's just switched from a dual boot of linux mint / Windows 7. To Just Ubuntu, I would be interested if it were to come to our architecture, but I thought ubuntu needed dual core processors? And obviously HDMI won't be available.
Google Apps isn't native to ubuntu right? So what kind of ecosystem would we be moving to? Also there is no lockscreen which is a little concerning, but the device itself works like BlackBerrys new OS, which is nice.
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I would test it, as I'm no developer I can't do anything else