It's just a rumor or speculation that i've heard and i wanted to tell to you
Actually Intel isn't the biggest Phone processors seller and the few Intel-Powered Smartphones are running Android but i think that will change. Why? Because Intel and Microsoft have a very good relationship, Windows 8 will boost the sells of Windows Phone devices and there's another rummor that Windows 8 devices will be based on NT kernel. Mix all this information and i think you'll get the answer.
What do you think?
IvoFajardo said:
It's just a rumor or speculation that i've heard and i wanted to tell to you
Actually Intel isn't the biggest Phone processors seller and the few Intel-Powered Smartphones are running Android but i think that will change. Why? Because Intel and Microsoft have a very good relationship, Windows 8 will boost the sells of Windows Phone devices and there's another rummor that Windows 8 devices will be based on NT kernel. Mix all this information and i think you'll get the answer.
What do you think?
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Windows 8 is based off the NT Kernel. Chances are desktop builds will be compiled for x86, tablet builds will be built for ARM (you can read numerous articles on the internet).
The NT kernel is processor-independent
It's already a while ago, but once Windows NT was available for X86, Alpha, MIPS and PowerPC - four different CPU architectures. The Windows NT kernel is and always was processor-independent.
The step now from X86 / X64 to ARM is smaller than many people think. Anyway, I think Microsoft is pretty free to run any version of Windows it wants on both CPUs.
And about that especially good relationship between Intel and Windows: That may have its best days already in the past. Intel can't like much Microsoft's ARM adventures, and likewise Microsoft eyes Intel's Linux excurses with a sharp eye.
Intel Atom Ivy Bridge seem to be legit , lol...
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Did anybody think about that WP7 phones may be on x86 processors? (atom, etc)
if my phone supported x86 i would definately not install wp7 in my phone.
hyellow said:
if my phone supported x86 i would definately not install wp7 in my phone.
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yeah, same here, linux would be the way to go
aeroflyluby said:
Did anybody think about that WP7 phones may be on x86 processors? (atom, etc)
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Unlikely, maybe on a netbook or tablet, but not on a smartphone. ARM cores are leaps and bounds ahead in terms of bang for your watt.
Most likely Microsoft released the WP7 emulator on x86 because it runs faster ;P
Most likely not.
They probably released it this way to limit the possible use of the ROM.
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Most likely Microsoft released the WP7 emulator on x86 because it runs faster ;P
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Because it's hardware accelerated to give you the speed you would have on a real phone.
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Did anybody think about that WP7 phones may be on x86 processors? (atom, etc)
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Considering that the minimum requirements for a WP7S phone say that a device must have an ARM Cortex A8 processor, a Scorpion CPU, or better (http://www.techautos.com/2010/03/17/windows-phone-7-series-hardware-requirements/), we're pretty sure WP7S isn't for x86.
It's based on CE 6R3 so in theory yes, but you will have to port the drivers and other system files that are cortex specific.
I heard intel is making x86 mobile processors. Maybe there will be version for those.
matejdro said:
I heard intel is making x86 mobile processors. Maybe there will be version for those.
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What would be the advantage of porting WP7 to those?
windows 7 on the phone
hyellow said:
if my phone supported x86 i would definately not install wp7 in my phone.
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You can order already a phone with windows xp and the Intel x86-Moorestown Prozessor will be used by LG this Year for its phone so maybe for the advanced User Windows 7 with all its Software will be avaiable soon on the Phone .
Running windows 7 phone OS on a atom based tablet ( viliv etc) would be great. I think full windows 7 is not very user friendly because of the tiny menus etc.
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You can order already a phone with windows xp
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Do you mean the rumoured XP Phone? Its not out yet so I consider it vaporware till then
docspangenberg said:
Intel x86-Moorestown Prozessor will be used by LG this Year for its phone so maybe for the advanced User Windows 7 with all its Software will be avaiable soon on the Phone .
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True but unfortunately I heard there is something to do with bios which means that this will not be possible Would love to be wrong
http://lifehacker.com/5504465/how-to-transform-your-windows-desktop-with-an-amazing-windows-phone-7+style-hud
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I heard intel is making x86 mobile processors. Maybe there will be version for those.
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Those are used in notebook computers. They have nothing to do with cell phones.
imperiallight said:
Do you mean the rumoured XP Phone? Its not out yet so I consider it vaporware till then
True but unfortunately I heard there is something to do with bios which means that this will not be possible Would love to be wrong
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sign me up to buy the xp phone.
As you may know, there has been an official statement saying what editions of windows 8 there will be.
For x86, there will be two available to consumers (standard and pro) and one available only for volume licensing (enterprise).
Windows 8 ARM, often called WoA, has officially been named Windows RT. It will not carry the name "8" at all.
How will XDA handle this? There is already a Windows 8 forum on XDA, but this is a mobile development site, and Windows 8 will me mainly geared towards desktops and laptops. There will be some x86 tablets but most expect the new windows tablets to mainly run on ARM. Windows RT will be mostly tablets and some laptops.
Microsoft has also previously stated that windows phone 8 will be its own operating system, and will not be the same as WoA, now to be referred to as Windows RT (just pointing this out to avoid confusion)
So, a few options I can see happening:
-the Windows 8 forum being changed to windows RT, as this is a mobile site, and not having a windows 8 forum
-the windows 8 forum being kept, as there will be some mobile devices running it, and a windows RT forum being created as well, since they're different OSes
-making windows 8 have two main sections - x86 and RT (since they can run the same programs and share a lot of code)
What do you think will happen, and why?
And if anyone involved in the decision making process sees this, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Windows Really Terrible?
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Windows Really Terrible?
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Or simply windows Runtime. Indeed the branding can be confusing. ARM was fine. They could have gone for something simpler in their communication: Windows Tablet ...
Not sure it's a huge priority tbh...
Once we start to see what's coming out, I guess a decision will be made about if only the ARM version will be covered...
I could imagine something like a Windows 8 category (like a device appears as a category), with 2 subforums - ARM Devices and x86 Devices...
Just an idea, but not a major priority AFAIK. Guess it's a case of seeing how things go.
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Or simply windows Runtime. Indeed the branding can be confusing. ARM was fine. They could have gone for something simpler in their communication: Windows Tablet ...
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I like Windows ARM. WARM. It's all fuzzy
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With Bluestack and the upcoming windowsandroid, in near future, windows can run android apps.
Will the Surface tablet then become the most popular tablet since it can run both native Windows applications and android apps?
source?
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Source that windows can run android apps? Liliputing. Also downloaded blue stack and tested it myself on windows 7.
short answer: no.
long answer: windows rt != windows. While a modern pc has all the horsepower needed to emulate an ARM system, an ARM SoC doesn't really have the power to emulate anything (well, anything modern) so i don't think we will see windows rt run android apps anytime soon. Plus, there would be the "marketplace approval issue" and even then you would have no google play...
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short answer: no.
long answer: windows rt != windows. While a modern pc has all the horsepower needed to emulate an ARM system, an ARM SoC doesn't really have the power to emulate anything (well, anything modern) so i don't think we will see windows rt run android apps anytime soon. Plus, there would be the "marketplace approval issue" and even then you would have no google play...
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Surface tablet runs windows 8, not windows 8 rt and has a intel chip, not arm. There is the surface rt tablet which is based on arm processor. And currently for both blue stacks and windows android, the google play market is accessible. Else u can always sure load apps.
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Surface tablet runs windows 8, not windows 8 rt and has a intel chip, not arm. There is the surface rt tablet which is based on arm processor. And currently for both blue stacks and windows android, the google play market is accessible. Else u can always sure load apps.
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Microsoft is planning on releasing a Surface tablet thats x86 based. Its actually listed on there website rite now. The Surface RT IS the tablet based on ARM and any Windows RT install is ARM based and just saying the Surface RT has a Nvidia Tegra 3 processor. Blackberry tablets are able to run Android apps no problem. Running Windows apps and run Android apps shouldn't be a problem. Its just software.
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Surface tablet runs windows 8, not windows 8 rt and has a intel chip, not arm. There is the surface rt tablet which is based on arm processor. And currently for both blue stacks and windows android, the google play market is accessible. Else u can always sure load apps.
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no dude, surface runs windows RT and the upcoming surface pro will run windows 8.
your right, surface is arm so if they was the software it could run android app but it would be a lot better to run apps made for the surface. I like the surface over a android tab its just price is too high.
Bluestacks is an emulator. You can't expect things to work 100%.
I've used bluestacks and it is clunky at best. Sure it works on a pinch but I wouldn't buy non-android tablet and expect to run android stuff. Even if things do run perfect, emulation will take a toll on performance.
If you want an android tablet but an android tablet. The only way this will remotely work well is if we find ourselves a 10" HD2.
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Is android more powerful as compare to windows ?
What do you mean more powerful? Code is certainly not more powerful than other code... It could be claimed as more capable
Microsoft anounced that windows 10 will support tablets including android tablets have it from an pcwelt video german
comlete feature list windows 10
http://www.pcwelt.de/ratgeber/Windo...Windows-10-Funktionen-Windows-10-9602942.html
you think it woud be posebile to install it in the tab s
dual boot woud be the best 1 android and 1 windows
As of right now not possible, but never say never!
No. Microsoft has ceased all development on the ARM version of windows, aka Windows RT. The new Windows 10 will only run on x86 hardware, which means you will need an android tablet with a Intel processor to install Windows 10. The Galaxy Tab S uses an ARM processor, hence it is not compatible.
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No. Microsoft has ceased all development on the ARM version of windows, aka Windows RT. The new Windows 10 will only run on x86 hardware, which means you will need an android tablet with a Intel processor to install Windows 10. The Galaxy Tab S uses an ARM processor, hence it is not compatible.
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This is not correct I am afraid. They made windows 10 running on Xiaomi MI4. The phone has Snapdragon 801 ARM proc. See the link below..
http://www.loadthegame.com/2015/03/26/xiaomi-mi4-running-windows-phone-spotted-in-the-wild/
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This is not correct I am afraid. They made windows 10 running on Xiaomi MI4. The phone has Snapdragon 801 ARM proc. See the link below..
http://www.loadthegame.com/2015/03/26/xiaomi-mi4-running-windows-phone-spotted-in-the-wild/
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That's Windows Phone, which is different from Windows 10. I haven't heard anything about Microsoft merging Windows 10 and Windows Phone.
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That's Windows Phone, which is different from Windows 10. I haven't heard anything about Microsoft merging Windows 10 and Windows Phone.
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Wow are you retarded? (No offense ) Windows 10 is the same across all platforms and no that is not Windows Phone on Mi4 it is Windows 10 running on it. Windows 10 is also coming to Raspberry Pi 2 which is running an ARM Processor too. Microsoft want's to make a Windows 10 ROM to get more people on it. So yes it is possible to be running on the Tab S but I'm unsure about Samsung's Exynos.
shadow78 said:
This is not correct I am afraid. They made windows 10 running on Xiaomi MI4. The phone has Snapdragon 801 ARM proc. See the link below..
http://www.loadthegame.com/2015/03/26/xiaomi-mi4-running-windows-phone-spotted-in-the-wild/
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feature which will most likely expand to all Android smartphones in the future
in the same aticle never say never
i hope we can don an dual boot with this woud be awesome 1 android 1 windows swith store
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Wow are you retarded? (No offense ) Windows 10 is the same across all platforms and no that is not Windows Phone on Mi4 it is Windows 10 running on it. Windows 10 is also coming to Raspberry Pi 2 which is running an ARM Processor too. Microsoft want's to make a Windows 10 ROM to get more people on it. So yes it is possible to be running on the Tab S but I'm unsure about Samsung's Exynos.
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According to PC msg we are both retards.
http://asia.pcmag.com/microsoft-sur...indows-rt-is-dead-but-microsoft-hasnt-learned
According to the article there are two versions of Windows 10. The first one is the normal desktop Windows, which is direct successor of the (/sarcasm) beloved Windows 8 (/endsarcasm). The second version is a mobile version that runs on both x86 and ARM, but presumably has a smaller footprint and optimised for touch screen control. In order words, it is Windows Phone in all but name.
Running x86 software on ARM isn't impossible, but incredible costly. The ARM processor would have to emulate the x86 hardware, and all hardware emulations are expensive (in terms of processing power and not money). Anyone who had ever used the android emulator that comes with the android development kit knows how painfully slow it is even on a i7 CPU. Trying to run a legacy Windows x86 software on a weaker ARM processor would be insane.
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According to PC msg we are both retards.
http://asia.pcmag.com/microsoft-sur...indows-rt-is-dead-but-microsoft-hasnt-learned
According to the article there are two versions of Windows 10. The first one is the normal desktop Windows, which is direct successor of the (/sarcasm) beloved Windows 8 (/endsarcasm). The second version is a mobile version that runs on both x86 and ARM, but presumably has a smaller footprint and optimised for touch screen control. In order words, it is Windows Phone in all but name.
Running x86 software on ARM isn't impossible, but incredible costly. The ARM processor would have to emulate the x86 hardware, and all hardware emulations are expensive (in terms of processing power and not money). Anyone who had ever used the android emulator that comes with the android development kit knows how painfully slow it is even on a i7 CPU. Trying to run a legacy Windows x86 software on a weaker ARM processor would be insane.
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To be honest we can't say anything until Microsoft releases Windows 10 later this year!
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To be honest we can't say anything until Microsoft releases Windows 10 later this year!
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jes but i still hope it will work woud be great
Windows 10 on Tab s 10.5
Kahun said:
Wow are you retarded? (No offense ) Windows 10 is the same across all platforms and no that is not Windows Phone on Mi4 it is Windows 10 running on it. Windows 10 is also coming to Raspberry Pi 2 which is running an ARM Processor too. Microsoft want's to make a Windows 10 ROM to get more people on it. So yes it is possible to be running on the Tab S but I'm unsure about Samsung's Exynos.
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Where Where Where can I find a tutorial on installing windows 10 on my Tab S? I really want to be able to install netbeans because my freakin laptop got stolen and all I can use is AIDE right now.
Please Help!!!
Completely different platforms, it's not a pc.
If it can eventually be emulated on an android tablet I doubt it will be much use.
TacoMeatDaGod said:
Where Where Where can I find a tutorial on installing windows 10 on my Tab S? I really want to be able to install netbeans because my freakin laptop got stolen and all I can use is AIDE right now.
Please Help!!!
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You won't get Windows 10 on it as theres no drivers
How come this guys can?
www indiegogo com/projects/magicstick-most-powerful-pc-stick-8gb-ram/x/12430960
How can i install windows 10 on samsung tab s?
TurboProgramming said:
How can i install windows 10 on samsung tab s?
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Guess you didn't read the entire thread...YOU CAN NOT INSTALL WIN 10 ON YOUR 10.5 Tab S
2 Biggest reasons why not:
You don't have the proper processor in the 10.5
You'll most likely never get any drivers for the hardware in it
Qualcomm has announced that the first ARM-based mobile PCs running Windows 10 are on the way.
Asus, HP, and Lenovo are the first device makers to confirm they’re working on ARM-based Windows 10 computers. And according to Qualcomm, all of those upcoming device will be fanless computers.
Microsoft has been working on a version of Windows 10 that can run on ARM chips, and we’ve known for a while that the Snapdragon 835 would be the first to support that operating system. Unlike past attempts to bring Windows to ARM, the version that will run on these upcoming devices supports Win32 apps as well as Universal Windows Platform apps downloaded from the Windows Store.
That’s thanks to emulation technology which allows Qualcomm’s ARM-based chip to run software that’s been compiled for x86 architecture.
Wondering why you’d want to run Windows 10 on an ARM-based PC? At a time when there’s no shortage of small, cheap, fanless tablets and notebooks with Intel chips, that’s a reasonable question.
But Qualcomm says there are a few advantages to its platform. First, the integrated X16 LTE modem enables support for cellular connections at up to Gigabit speeds.
Second, the company says its chips offer up to 50 percent longer battery life than competing solutions… in some scenarios. The difference isn’t all that great when you’re doing things like editing documents. But Qualcomm says it’s chips enable longer run time while web browsing, video conferencing, watching videos, or playing games.
The difference is even greater in standby mode, where Qualcomm says you get smartphone-like standby time in a laptop-style package. Note that Qualcomm is comparing “connected standby,” though, which is a newish thing for laptops, allowing your laptop to sync data, instantly resume, and generally offer smartphone-like features whether you have an Intel or ARM chip.
Third, Qualcomm’s solution may be able to fit into smaller spaces than computers with Intel or AMD chips. While laptop and tablet motherboards are a lot smaller than they used to be, a PC with a Snapdragon 835 processor can essentially have a phone-sized system board, leaving more room in the case for a battery and other components… or just leading to thinner and lighter Windows computers.
Update: Mobile Geeks has posted a demo video of Windows 10 on ARM from Computex, showing a device running a Win32 app downloaded from the internet as well as Windows Store apps.
https://youtu.be/VeOQp5V7EgM
from: https://liliputing.com/2017/05/asus-hp-lenovo-building-win10-pcs-snapdragon-835-chips.html
There is not enough Micro$oft all over the world that's why Win10 arrives at ARM.
The question I have is will there be a way to side load or hack an older RT tablet to the new Window10 for Arm ? Hell I would even be willing to pay MS $50 is dollars for the ability. Given Win8.1 Update 3 is broken.