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[REQ] New AOSP or HTC style camera app

Hello xda,
I've condensed this thread down a bit...
Point being despite HTC's minor improvements in the camera app since it's release, many Evo owners on here including myself find that the stock camera quality leaves much to be desired.
Some small steps have been made on the dev side of things to improve audio etc, but there is bad compression, bad stabilization, bad audio quality when recording loud environments, and horrible quality in low light.
Im not getting on a soap box, the Evo simply doesn't compete with it's droid brethren for the most part.
Depending on what is involved, I started this thread seeking either a new app built from the ground up, or some serious software improvements made to the Sense cam.
I'm sure there are many technical problems to overcome to make this a reality, but hopefully with the talent that is xda, the Evo can one day take decent pictures without needing perfect light, and 10 minutes to focus the thing.
Here are some ideas towards improvement:
1) First and foremost, a clean UI, being on an Evo, HTC style would be nice with the charcoal black, and reflections, but then Transparent/translucent would be even nicer. I don't want an iClone, but their UI is simple and easy to use, and IMO aesthetically pleasing, CM6 on the other hand looks outdated as does HTC's silly menu access, and zoom bar.
2) Good Codecs... I'm sure things get tricky here. Do we have to use open source codecs, and drivers? Are there limitations here that laypersons like myself don't understand? Are there royalties involved, and why did HTC/Android use the codecs that we currently use... The audio codec used now is from NES era, and bumping up the khz just may not be enough. CM team is already proving there are workarounds for this.
3) I hate Qik, and I hate Fring. Each app contains good things that the other doesn't, and I don't want to compromise. Neither should you. There should be a better app, and that app should be integrated into the Camera app. If I'm taking a video of something, or if I decide I want to video chat with someone while my Camera app is open, it would be nice to make one click on the camera UI, and have it bring up a call function. Full screen image, with thumbnail for front camera, NO walkie talkie button to talk. Again, think clean and simple.
4) Swipe to zoom, and Touch to Focus (TTF). This should be the standard, for both video and camera. And while I'm using the video recorder, I'd like to be able to do both if possible. Not have to zoom, then hit record. That's crazy.
5) Some kind of image stabilization. Whether I'm taking videos or pictures, it looks like a crackhead with Parkinsons shot it. I do suffer from the shakes a little but for c'mon, I've seen better image stabilization on Walmart cameras.
6)Integrate a more user friendly Gallery, like 3d gallery.
The gallery from HTC looks like it was ported from my other failure of a phone, the Instinct. If the developer is savvy, they could sell some kind of photoshop, or video edit add-on to give us creative control, and focus the main app on usability and quality. Save the editing stuff for later.
7)Add volume button control to take pics/vids. Having physical control on such a large phone is definitely handy. No pun intended.
8)Ability to shoot raw, (or close to uncompressed) pics in addition to better compression as a whole. The sensor supports raw, and people would love to have this.
9)While I haven't used it personally, a lot of people seem to want panoramic ability, and seem to love it.
10)HDR capability
11)Control over the flash intensity. A major problem is that the flash is super bright during dark shots... This usually results in washed out useless pics unless taken at distance. We know we can control the flash steps using the flashlight, so a way to step it down is needed.
This is the idea list.
It seems people will pay between $10-$20 for a good functioning camera app, that we don't have to install a different rom to utilize. I don't expect perfection, the phone's only been out a few months, and Android a few years, but come on, the source code has been available for a couple months now.
We have the hardware to do this, and camera apps like Vignette, Camera 360, and others are just simple overlays with edit functions, not true dedicated hardcoding, that alters the way the computer perceives the color and light entering the aperture.
Thanks everyone for entertaining my rant. Let the bumps begin!

I would gladly pay $4.99 (In Rubles) for a good functioning camera app
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That's like $.17

Well, I'm definitely glad somebody else has finally brought this topic back to light; as far as I know there have been "some" gains but not as much as it could be. I recommend starting a bounty to show devs we're serious about getting this out off the ground.

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tl;dr
Summary: My phone isn't a Canon 7D with video conferencing like in the show 24 or a gallery app like Microsoft Surface. Fix it and I'll pay seventeen cents...EVERYONE JOIN ME.
*sigh*
PS: You could always take up programming and do this yourself, you know.

Cyanogen said on twitter recently he its working on the camera ui a bit. He knows the menu system is a mess.
Fixing the ui graphically (theme) would be easy, doesn't require much serious programing chops.
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You know, it isn't all that silly to compare the iphone 4 to the evo's camera. Hardware wise there both from the same company. And if model numbers mean anything, shouldn't the Evos CMOS sensor suggest its better?
iPhone 4: Omnivision OV5650 1.75u BSI 5MP, RAW sensor.
HTV Evo: Omnivision OV8812 1.4u BSI 8MP, RAW Sensor.
So yea looking at there specs, i think were getting a crimpled camera experience. HTC just doesn't know anything about cameras, and/or GPU's . judging from there lack of GPU acceleration woes with winmo lol.
Edit: Who would like to take RAW HDR photos on there evo? xD, if the iPhone 4 can do it, so can we. Just gotta wait for some community development to kick up.

Wow, okay I see this subject is delicate so I'll try not to be my usual sarcastic self so much when posting.... Minus the trying not to be sarcastic.
Lighten up guys. I was joking about the rubles, and serious about the idea.
Edtate has the right attitude, and has been actively involved in this discussion for months now. Optimism and creative spirit are what's needed here, then we hand that off to the guys with the ingenuity. See how that works?
The whole reason I started this thread is because ideas become convoluted, and die out without an end goal and creativity driving them.
I don't want to start a bounty in open source community, there has been much of that lately, and it seems to result in much conflict. It also defeats the purpose of open source development. Like I said tho, I would pay about $5 for something that meets (most of) my requests, as would others.
And no, I don't want a Cannon dslr, just want my phone to perform on par for it's specs, and advertisments, let alone its competition. The point is in the details which I pointed out in the OP.
Finally, I just want to say that naysayers always nay, that's their duty. The rest of the world says "let's do this". I'm not a programmer, and don't really think Id learn quicker than someone who already can, which I why I started this. Those who wish to help, feel free to get in on this.
I have good management and organizational skills, as do many others here, that alone tells me its too early to give up on this idea.
By the way if money is your incentive, build this app. People WILL buy it.
And, as I said previously its only silly to compare the iPhone outside of the camera HW.
Other than this, I believe our hardware is more than capable of giving the same experience as the iPhone or other modern phones. After all this is supposed to be the Evo 4g, the phone with superpowers!

Mitch Matrixx said:
And, as I said previously its only silly to compare the iPhone outside of the camera HW.
Other than this, I believe our hardware is more than capable of giving the same experience as the iPhone or other modern phones. After all this is supposed to be the Evo 4g, the phone with superpowers!
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my apologies, totaly missed this part. VVVVVVVVV
Mitch Matrixx said:
They use different hardware outside of the camera realm, and surely differences in the codecs also.
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but at any rate. This is reassuring, if all of the differences on camera quality is being dictated solely by software, then surly we can do something about our camera woes.
P.S- Compared photos taken with my Evo pitted against my friends HTC HD2, i got so embarrassed. something from a winmo phone was doing a gazillion times better than my evo could. No grain, better flash, amazing color depth (even in low light conditions), no yellowish tint, just pure natural color. What was HTC doing when they RUSHED the Evo out the door?

I would definitely help with UI if thus had some lead.
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Wow, maybe I should have paid the 99 for an HD2 after all. One of the main reasons I got this damn phone was for the stupid 8 mp camera.
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U can always sell ur evo for 99 dollars and go get u that hd2 see how windows 6.5.treats u let me know ill buy it for 99 dollars if that's what u want this thread is for good ideas or someone willing to help not nagging he made it clear what the camera issues were cheers

Ok I'd like to help with this. I suck ass in java (only did it like 7 years ago for high school) but I've been studying it again for android. I've only made one app, it's unreleased and unfinished but hey it's something... I can work on the basic gui though. just draw up something on a paper and post it on the thread or email it to me. ( pirokosan at gmail dot com ) I want to get this started... Tired of the stock camera and I hate sense.

yes i hope the devs will see this

Camera's fine toy with the settings
from the fade

I support this idea, I used to take amazing pictures with my Blackberry Bold...
I would surely pay $10 or more if this app went on sale.
I'm a flickr addict. This phone is 8mp. I'm sure it won't compare to my 450D but I bet it can damn well come close to making my point and shoot pointless.
I'd gladly switch to aosp if this app becomes a reality.
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This excites me that somebody is trying too get the ball rolling with this! If I knew anything about these other than flashing ROM's, I'd be all over helping get this developed. For now, I will just stand on the side cheerleading (and bumping thread).
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lmao @ comparing HD2 to the EVO....

Maybe you could part this in the Incredible forums too? Hell give me a better camera and I'll pay $10
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Well, the main reason I support this is because with a custom camera app for the evo will more than likely mean a custom camcorder app; to which we've been trying to unlock its full potential for a looooong time.
@op-I understand how you feel about bounty threads, but guess what, they work. This is a tangible feat, its not like we're reverse engineering proprietary software lol. All we need is a kick in the right direction, to which I'm willing to start of nothing comes out of this thread.

WP7 on a Samsung i890 Omnia HD (Youtube vid)

Hi All,
Just searching Youtube for WP7 vids posted today and I stumbled across this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH1AvnhqMPc
I can't remember whether this handset was WM originally or if this was the Symbain one but it's an interesting video.
Is this new news, or have I found an old vid?
DC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH1AvnhqMPc

It depends, if this is the result of an actual port then this is news. We all know Microsoft has used the Samunsung Omnia HD as a prototype device to test WP7 on so if the video shows one of those devices, it isn't news.
The date of the vid says it's posted today so it would be weird that this is one of those prototype phones.

Good point about these being used a Microsoft prototypes. I'll assume that this is one of those rather than a port. I'm still at work, so I've only looked at teh vid without sound. There may be some sort of audio commentary on there, I won't know until I watch the vid at home.
DC

DavidC1980 said:
Good point about these being used a Microsoft prototypes. I'll assume that this is one of those rather than a port. I'm still at work, so I've only looked at teh vid without sound. There may be some sort of audio commentary on there, I won't know until I watch the vid at home.
DC
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No audio and I'm afraid it's one of those prototype devices cause it has a Windows button at the bottom.

well if someone finds a leak of that, it could be really cool!

Am I the only one noticing that the device has the 3 standard WP7 buttons?
Isn't that one of the early demo devices?

Sir. Haxalot said:
Am I the only one noticing that the device has the 3 standard WP7 buttons?
Isn't that one of the early demo devices?
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no you're not, fact is: if that's really a omnia HD with just different buttons, a leak of that could be used on an actual omnia HD, making it a great device even if with symbian is a ****ty one

Moving to General. PLEASE stop posting things that don't contribute to the development of WP7.
Thanks,
~~Tito~~

Well maybe this means that wp7 can be ported to similar devices.

Also, the i8910 is supposed to have a 360x640 display, which would make porting much harder. Even if they would get the OS working (I still think it something fishy about that video), the Apps would probably not scale properly to the new resolution.

Android-Powered Google Glasses Coming This Year, Says NYT

By JARED NEWMAN | February 22, 2012
Android-powered Google glasses may seem like fantasy, but according to the New York Times, they’re real, and on track for a 2012 launch.
Citing “several Google employees familiar with the project,” Nick Bilton reports that the heads-up display will go on sale by the end of the year. It’ll have a 3G or 4G data connection built-in, and will cost somewhere between $250 and $600.
Between Bilton’s report and earlier rumors from 9to5Mac’s Seth Weintraub, we’re starting to get a clearer picture of what these glasses will look like. Weintraub reported that the actual heads-up display is “only for one eye and on the side.” That pretty much lines up with Bilton’s account that the glasses will include “a small screen that will sit a few inches from someone’s eye.” In other words, these aren’t the kind of glasses where the lens is the actual display.
A low-resolution camera will be able to provide real time information about a user’s surroundings. The glasses will reportedly resemble Oakley Thumps, pictured here.
As for software, Weintraub wrote that users will navigate the HUD with a system of head tilting. Although the information will be based on existing Google services, such as Google Latitude and Google Goggles, it’ll be presented as augmented reality, on top of whatever’s happening in the real world, according to Bilton.
Still unclear, of course, is whether anyone would actually wear these things in public. Would I love to have a HUD to remind me about the names of people I’ve met, or to give me directions in the car without having to glance down at my phone? Absolutely. But as my editor Doug Aamoth pointed out, waiting for the contact lens version may be more socially acceptable.
ff

This seems like an awesome idea but I can't help to think at the sony 3D glasses that a) dont fit your head and b)cause headache. I hope if googles release these glases that they fix these issues

If they put sell this tech to glasses makers, make possible to use the whole lens, turn it off and have about 2 Gb for data (useful things), I would buy it.
Xperia X10 Mini Pro with CM9 by paul-xxx

Finally a potentially more effective way of developing brain tumors.
Although, this is just speculation

That would be nice, I'd totally ditch my contacts (they're a pain anyways) for tech glasses, that is if they can give me a nice frame to go with it.

well i had also read this news ago but i was not assure that time but thanks you share it again with us so now i am agree with the news

maybe they can also warn you not to run against signs on the street, like some people do while texting I think this would also reduce the number of brain-tumors D

I need this glasses, then I can surf while I sitting in lessons
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Great comment. I wonder about this too.
uselessmass said:
Finally a potentially more effective way of developing brain tumors.
Although, this is just speculation
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Felimenta97 said:
If they put sell this tech to glasses makers, make possible to use the whole lens, turn it off and have about 2 Gb for data (useful things), I would buy it.
Xperia X10 Mini Pro with CM9 by paul-xxx
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Agreed!
But I think that it can have a little more than 2gb!
It would be great...

LexSombra said:
Agreed!
But I think that it can have a little more than 2gb!
It would be great...
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I mean for contacts, people and such. I don't think 8 Gb is needed. Maybe 4 Gb it's OK. And a little bit more for the OS.
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Ahem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmSsQ7m3GVA

EXCLUSIVE Sony Smartwatch 3 - Test Reports

These documents contain additional technical details, and internal photos of the device.
Confirmed WiFi, and full NFC communication.
Some of the images are clearly early prototypes, but this is the final report regarding it's hardware specs.
Enjoy

That would be great, but if these was made with prototypes we still can't be sure if final version has it or not.
This is so ridiculous. Come on Sony, why no one there cares talking about your own device?
They could lead the new generation of Smart watches but their silence means they probably don't care...

king conan said:
That would be great, but if these was made with prototypes we still can't be sure if final version has it or not.
This is so ridiculous. Come on Sony, why no one there cares talking about your own device?
They could lead the new generation of Smart watches but their silence means they probably don't care...
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I agree 100%. This is the first watch that combines that whole fitness aspect with android wear. They should be getting this watch out there in the media as much as possible.

I think they must be working thru some of the new parts of the android wear update.

Isn't the SW3 wifi compatible ? I checked the white paper and I cannot see anything... :crying:

I found the answer myself ^^ document 2407959 white paper page 3

The A80, can we fix samsung's mess with LineageOS?

This is supposed to be in the ROM/Recovery section, I plan to use this as a central thread for development on this device if it comes to that.
Anyone who owns an A80, must have by now have had a love hate relationship with it.
Even the S21 doesn't look that good and a look alike phone is often spotted in samsung's ads to this day which has the same edges so i guess they use it as a prop instead of editing out the punch hole. (See images, one is from the 1UI3 ad). It could have been a timeless device if the software implementation was paid more attention to.
Currently these are the problems with this device on OneUI2.0
- HDR video playback doesn't work from youtube but does with the camera (was present on S9)
- Severly Nerfed Camera
- Slowdown/Battery drain/High ram usage
- Aggressive PWM on the display (opposed to DC mode on OnePlus)
- No Android 10 Nav bar despite it being on Android 10.
- No wireless charging (more on that later)
- Poorly made kernal I read?
Which doesn't make sense because even the older Gen phones got these resolved and the alternative A series phones as well.
I am currently very frustrated and would love to join the devs/owners of this device and put our contributions in a LineageOS build for this however I have never done more than basic builds for a device.
Having an All screen no notch display made me realise it's all about software.
Here is a very clean S10 Rom and I wish we can get there with this thing too
Lastly about the wireless charging, Im an engineering undergrad familiar with the WPC Standard and if you have seen strange part's video on adding wireless charging to the iPhone 7, this is certainly a glass back phone with a modular charging port assembly that exact thing can be done on this device as well, I have ordered the parts found in the S10 and some after market tags that I'll try and see which work while keeping the battery cool, I'll share my findings if it's successful.

I definitely agree with you but you know, unfortunately Galaxy A80 isn't sold too much such as A70, A71 and other A series without A80 are popular -because they are more cheap than A80-, so I think developers don't want to make, develop or port any ROM for uncommon and under-sold devices like A80 because making and porting any ROM is super harder you know. And developers want to receive a recompense for their hard work. We are so unlucky for buying A80. No one wants to make or port for uncommon device.
By the way, English isn't my primary language, so if I did make mistakes in my paragraph, sorry.

Demirag said:
I definitely agree with you but you know, unfortunately Galaxy A80 isn't sold too much such as A70, A71 and other A series without A80 are popular -because they are more cheap than A80-, so I think developers don't want to make, develop or port any ROM for uncommon and under-sold devices like A80 because making and porting any ROM is super harder you know. And developers want to receive a recompense for their hard work. We are so unlucky for buying A80. No one wants to make or port for uncommon device.
By the way, English isn't my primary language, so if I did make mistakes in my paragraph, sorry.
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and also, source code issue

Demirag said:
and also, source code issue
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people who bought this device for video and photos they hardly change their device i can bet you on this they have bought the A80 twice