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[Q] Excited to get a DINC2.....questions about a lot of things.

Hey guys. I'm going to order my DINC2 tomorrow because I'm due for an upgrade. I've been reading a LOT around these forums. There is a TON of information and I love it, but the thing is, there's too much to the point where I don't know if everything is up to date, etc. My main goal with my DINC2 will just to be to flash a ROM based on CM7 that is currently on these forums. The thing is, there is a way to do this that looks sort of outdated. It is the method that involves downgrading hboot, then doing all the other misc stuff that is shown in a guide. I came across a tool that unlocks the bootloader from htcdev (not sure if I am allowed to reference this. sorry in advance if this violates rules).
The thing is, there is all this talk of S-off/S-on, perm root, etc. and it's overwhelming for me because I have never owned a smartphone before, much less an Android smartphone. What would be the most up to date method to flash the CM7 ROM onto the DINC2? The Unlock Bootloader method seems like it would be much simpler....but I'm not sure what capabilities the unlocked bootloader would give me.

Hi, welcome. You should root with revolutionary. Plain and simple. Bootloader unlock makes you have to do an extra step whenever you flash a ROM. I would go to revolutionary.io and use their method. It is actually very easy. If you HTC unlock, you can use my guide on what to do next in my signature.

Thank you for directing me to that link. I've been wondering for awhile if anyone had a super concise guide on how to do EVERYTHING.....really good guide!

But as stated before, the ideal way is to downgrade and s-off. No extra steps involved when flashing a new ROM or anything.

tylerlawhon said:
But as stated before, the ideal way is to downgrade and s-off. No extra steps involved when flashing a new ROM or anything.
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+100,000,000,000
Sent from my Mikrunny'd Vivo_w

S-off and revolutionary is the way to go. Nat3mills on YouTube has some vids that walk you through the process. It is really not that bad.
Sent from my ADR6350 using xda premium

[Q] upgrade from 2.2 to 2.3.x without rooting

It is a shame to say that I still use Android 2.2 with Kernel 2.6.32.21, Taiwan version since I bought the phone a year ago.
(Not until recently, I have decided to move on to Gingerbread because
I wanna use the the latest features in the NDK to write some C++ programs for Android.)
Without getting into trouble during/after rooting,
I tried an official OTA upgrade but it doesn't work.
I tried to ask HTC but they said they still don't have any official upgrade for my phone.
I am a newbie here in this forum,
Could anybody please kindly offer your help please?
It will be GREATLY APPRECIATED! I wanna make my App!!!
swimd

If there is no official Gingerbread for your phone (which seems odd ?) then you can flash a different official GB ROM onto your phone. But normally your phone isn't going to let you do this, because it will fail the signature checks.
What you need to do is to de-brand your phone so that it doesn't do these checks any more. I will see if I can dig out a link to a guide and edit it into my post, unless someone else beats me to it.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

Steviewevie,
Thank you for your help in advance!

I can't copy and paste the link right now, but use the Search function in the Android Dev forum to find the thread called "Debranding Bell Desire Z" (it doesn't only apply to Bell phones).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

Thank you for the help!
I have found that thread!
BTW, after a quick look of the thread, it seems that S-off is recommended...
Do I need to get "root" in order to do so?
Should I do that to prevent future trouble?

Always recomend rooting phones right away, if you have a custom recovery and an enginering bootloader you can save tons of headaches in the future when problems arise (as they often do) this of course is outside the fact that a rooted phone is a happy phone and certainly not an apple
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium

As demkantor said, getting S-OFF is a lot better because it gives you a lot more options for the future, even if you don't use those options straight away.
IMHO the only reason to use the goldcard method and not full S-OFF is if you are really worried about voiding your warranty or the S-OFF process yourself. But there's no need to worry really, since (a) you can easily reverse the process if you need to, and (b) lots of people here can help you through getting S-OFF (the XDA Wiki explains it very well, though it can look daunting at first).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

+1 to the notion of just rooting the phone. Especially since if are software developer, I would think that you would want full control over your device. And if you have these type of skill, rooting will be easy.
As mentioned, root, S-Off etc. can be removed for warranty purposes, if that is the concern.
The Wiki method is generally accepted as the safest:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD

demkantor and all,
Thanks!!! ok, I am least I will go for S-OFF!
But, I need to be able to fully recover my OS and Apps,
I need to do some research on stock recovery and/or custom recovery...

Well, I think there is an official update to Gingerbread thou.. But I think dont think that version is in English as it is a Hongkong version.

PSA: READ HERE FIRST!!!! Chinese ICS RUU's and 6.01.605.05 CLNR's

In the last few days we have seen several people have big issues with flashing the vivow_ct chinese RUU's onto Verizon Inc2's and getting Revolutionary S-Off with Inc2's that shipped with 6.01.605.05 on them....
First and foremost, if you have a Verizon Inc2 DO NOT FLASH ANY CHINESE OTA RUU FILES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The threads are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1693033
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1691499
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683963
A big thanks to Relay for posting these files for S710d Vivow_Ct users who a) don't want to wait for the OTA b) are on other providers and cannot manually trigger it or receive it or c) vivow inc2 developers and modders to turn into flashable roms or use pieces to fix existing roms
At this point (as the last few days have shown) these are the only people who should even bother downloading those files!
Several inc2 users who did flash the RUU's are now stuck without data even after flashing back to stock RUU's and in forced roaming...and nothing so far has helped (QPST might, idk)
There are different ideas as to why this is happening...but that is not important to those who haven't flashed them...and for those that haven't DO NOT FLASH THEM!
As for those with CLNR Inc2's with the 6.01.605.05 update on them, DO NOT DOWNGRADE TO GET S-OFF. I have not been following the exact issue that closely, but you will end with bootloops and other issues following nandroid restores or reboots after flashing roms.
Functional non-rooted smartphone > fliphone > problematic bootlooping rooted phone
That is all.

Haha! Nice. Thanks for the thread. This should be stickied for the time being IMO. I think it is needed to prevent further headaches. I'm just glad I waited. I had planned on flashing the Chinese RUU, but held off due to work.
*wipes brow*

I kind of wished I would of waited but I was to hasty. I decided to call verizon they couldn't help me with anything so they decided to send me a new phone. Which they are not sending me another Inc 2. They are sending a Samsung Stratosphere which has barely any development.
Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk 2

Hope all of people who has flashed ruu will soon be restored their loved phone.

dirtsky said:
I kind of wished I would of waited but I was to hasty. I decided to call verizon they couldn't help me with anything so they decided to send me a new phone. Which they are not sending me another Inc 2. They are sending a Samsung Stratosphere which has barely any development.
Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk 2
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yeah its got one good rom from withere2 with mods and stuff...but it will forever be stuck on gingerbread w/ no aosp

dirtsky said:
I kind of wished I would of waited but I was to hasty. I decided to call verizon they couldn't help me with anything so they decided to send me a new phone. Which they are not sending me another Inc 2. They are sending a Samsung Stratosphere which has barely any development.
Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk 2
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I'm sorry. That phone blows. At least they gave you a new one in the first place though.

nitsuj17 said:
This *probably* does not belong in development, but I think if its not posted in here, too many people will miss it in their march to S-Off or ICS Sense!
In the last few days we have seen several people have big issues with flashing the vivow_ct chinese RUU's onto Verizon Inc2's and getting Revolutionary S-Off with Inc2's that shipped with 6.01.605.05 on them....
First and foremost, if you have a Verizon Inc2 DO NOT FLASH ANY CHINESE OTA RUU FILES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The threads are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1693033
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1691499
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683963
A big thanks to Relay for posting these files for S710d Vivow_Ct users who a) don't want to wait for the OTA b) are on other providers and cannot manually trigger it or receive it or c) vivow inc2 developers and modders to turn into flashable roms or use pieces to fix existing roms
At this point (as the last few days have shown) these are the only people who should even bother downloading those files!
Several inc2 users who did flash the RUU's are now stuck without data even after flashing back to stock RUU's and in forced roaming...and nothing so far has helped (QPST might, idk)
There are different ideas as to why this is happening...but that is not important to those who haven't flashed them...and for those that haven't DO NOT FLASH THEM!
As for those with CLNR Inc2's with the 6.01.605.05 update on them, DO NOT DOWNGRADE TO GET S-OFF. I have not been following the exact issue that closely, but you will end with bootloops and other issues following nandroid restores or reboots after flashing roms.
Functional non-rooted smartphone > fliphone > problematic bootlooping rooted phone
That is all.
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Can you help me modify my post to illustrate it. My poor English maybe express not clearly.
Thanks.

Relay said:
Can you help me modify my post to illustrate it. My poor English maybe express not clearly
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I would just put a big disclaimer in Red that says this
Verizon INC2 Vivow Users, Do Not Flash These!!! For Vivow_ct users and developers ONLY!!!!

nitsuj17 said:
I would just put a big disclaimer in Red that says this
Verizon INC2 Vivow Users, Do Not Flash These!!! For Vivow_ct users and developers ONLY!!!!
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Got it, I'll mod it now.

My reasoning was, why flash Sense 3.6 when there's a perfectly beautiful Sense 4.0 that works with our phones off the bat? Was as simple as that...

nitsuj17 said:
yeah its got one good rom from withere2 with mods and stuff...but it will forever be stuck on gingerbread w/ no aosp
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Ill try it for a week and if I don't like it, one of my friends has an Inc 2 that he might trade me.
Or if a find something else on craigslist in my area.

dirtsky said:
Ill try it for a week and if I don't like it, one of my friends has an Inc 2 that he might trade me.
Or if a find something else on craigslist in my area.
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heres wither2's rom http://rootzwiki.com/topic/23488-ei2romodincwmtweaked-v21-updated-052712/
hes a fellow tsm guy, and smart as heck

Glad to see this got stickied, Thx nit, a lot of people are going find this extremely useful

sk842018 said:
Glad to see this got stickied, Thx nit, a lot of people are going find this extremely useful
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Agreed. Thanks Nit and thanks for the sticky!

nitsuj17 said:
heres wither2's rom http://rootzwiki.com/topic/23488-ei2romodincwmtweaked-v21-updated-052712/
hes a fellow tsm guy, and smart as heck
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Thanks. I'll check it out. First thing I'm doin when I get it is debloating it.
Sent from my CM9 Incredible

nitsuj17 said:
In the last few days we have seen several people have big issues with flashing the vivow_ct chinese RUU's onto Verizon Inc2's and getting Revolutionary S-Off with Inc2's that shipped with 6.01.605.05 on them....
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Tell me, have the opportunity to return the S-ON and Hboot 0.98 after S-OFF of AlphaRev?

Vsio said:
Tell me, have the opportunity to return the S-ON and Hboot 0.98 after S-OFF of AlphaRev?
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I was able to get S-off again after flashing, and spending days undoing the resulting damage.

Anyone have this file PG32IMG-VIVO-CT-ICS-35-S-HTCCN-CHS-CT-4.08.1401.5-v201206050211-signed.zip
I need it but all links are dead

Uploading the file currently, will send you the link once done.
EDIT: Sent.
Jp

I guess the moderators/OP can add the instructions that people can safely flash Chinese ICS ROM on their DInc2 using the PG32IMG.zip method if they are S-Off with XTC Clip. Worked successfully for me as well as a lot of other users. Its not all doom & gloom.
Jp

[Q] Just Got DINC2. Need a little advice.

Just got a DINC2 replacement after 2 years with original dinc. My hope was to root and S-off ASAP. After a little searching I am not sure how to proceed. I have 0.98 bootloader with Android 2.3.4 and 5.10.605.9 software version.
I see that revolutionary does not have option for my bootloader. I also see a thread with a downgrade tool. I also saw a sticky saying not to download the bootloader.
Where do I go now with this?
Thanks.

If you have a way to get a xtc clip to get s off you will be ok. There are people that have been able to get s off with your software version but then have bootloop issues with sense roms. For some reason aosp roms are ok. There are many threads on this make sure you read up before deciding what to do. But I did read with the clip to get s off no issues with sense roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695414
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1659256

Thanks for the reply! This is very disappointing. I really do not want to shell out $50 on a clip. It seems all I can do otherwise is wait for an OTA or a fix.

If he's on the 5.x version he can downgrade, and then use revolutionary.
Sent from my vivow using Tapatalk 2

marcmarshall said:
Just got a DINC2 replacement after 2 years with original dinc. My hope was to root and S-off ASAP. After a little searching I am not sure how to proceed. I have 0.98 bootloader with Android 2.3.4 and 5.10.605.9 software version.
I see that revolutionary does not have option for my bootloader. I also see a thread with a downgrade tool. I also saw a sticky saying not to download the bootloader.
Where do I go now with this?
Thanks.
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With the 5.x software, use the downgrade tool in development, and s-off with revolutionary.
Edit: sorry, just noticed tyler's post says almost exactly the same thing.
Sent from my Incredible 2 using Tapatalk 2 Beta-5

Sorry looks like yours is not the newer software so you should be able to downgrade with revolutionary. Sorry if I miss guided you. There is a lot of people with the newer version having problems.

ok so what ive read here is if the phone is
SOFTWARE version 5.10.605.9
then downgrade + revolutionary. Hboot is .98, for what it's worth.
Also, another question, if the phone is past the 1 year warrenty, is it worth while to just use the HTCDev unlocking, or does this not 'fully' unlock the device to community needs?

gi812 said:
ok so what ive read here is if the phone is
SOFTWARE version 5.10.605.9
then downgrade + revolutionary. Hboot is .98, for what it's worth.
Also, another question, if the phone is past the 1 year warrenty, is it worth while to just use the HTCDev unlocking, or does this not 'fully' unlock the device to community needs?
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Software version 5.x you should downgrade. It'll give you a lot more freedom.
Sent from my vivow using Tapatalk 2

Sorry for miss leading you at first. I downgraded with revolutionary and everything went great. There are some helpful videos on you tube on the downgrade process if you get stuck.

Urgent questions about Root + S-off

Hey guys,
I am currently coming from a HTC Desire HD and am planning on picking up a One X tomorrow from a guy who got it with his phone contract.
It's about two months old and simlock free.
I cannot seem to find an answer to some really urgent questions I am having now..
From what I've read it is much harder (or impossible?) to succesfully root and S-off the device then for example on my HTC desire HD?
Is this true? I would like to use the ARHD rom but I am not sure now if I can make it work without being stuck on one ROM or not having any custom roms at all.
Can someone please explain to me what is really the situation with the One X currently.
is it possible to root and s-off so I can flash different roms? and are there any other relevant things I should know?
I'm hoping on a quick answer before I pull the trigger and buy a One X
Thanks a million for anyone helping me out here!
:fingers-crossed::good:

benno4403 said:
Hey guys,
I am currently coming from a HTC Desire HD and am planning on picking up a One X tomorrow from a guy who got it with his phone contract.
It's about two months old and simlock free.
I cannot seem to find an answer to some really urgent questions I am having now..
From what I've read it is much harder (or impossible?) to succesfully root and S-off the device then for example on my HTC desire HD?
Is this true? I would like to use the ARHD rom but I am not sure now if I can make it work without being stuck on one ROM or not having any custom roms at all.
Can someone please explain to me what is really the situation with the One X currently.
is it possible to root and s-off so I can flash different roms? and are there any other relevant things I should know?
I'm hoping on a quick answer before I pull the trigger and buy a One X
Thanks a million for anyone helping me out here!
:fingers-crossed::good:
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root= yes
s-off= no but being worked on by 2 brilliant dev's (at least them 2 if not more?)
You can flash different roms yes but would need to see which action is needed for each rom, i.e some need cache etc wiped blah blah blah

Zinta said:
root= yes
s-off= no but being worked on by 2 brilliant dev's (at least them 2 if not more?)
You can flash different roms yes but would need to see which action is needed for each rom, i.e some need cache etc wiped blah blah blah
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hmm.. still a little confused here but I appreciate your help! :good:. how can it be possible to flash/install custom ROMS when the phone is still S-ON?
Do you only need root acces then? and I guess you cannot just flash .zip files like from a custom recovery (like 4EXT recovery) like I did it on my Desire HD or can I?
What part are we essentially missing right now with the Security being on?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can make this clear to me

benno4403 said:
What part are we essentially missing right now with the Security being on?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can make this clear to me
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The bit where you can make it look like you never had a custom ROM and recovery installed.
On htcdev.com, there is an unlock method, but HTC have been known to invalidate their warranty for unlocked phones.
Your statutory rights are not affected, but it you'd have to go back to the retailer with problems (at least in the UK)

benno4403 said:
hmm.. still a little confused here but I appreciate your help! :good:. how can it be possible to flash/install custom ROMS when the phone is still S-ON?
Do you only need root acces then? and I guess you cannot just flash .zip files like from a custom recovery (like 4EXT recovery) like I did it on my Desire HD or can I?
What part are we essentially missing right now with the Security being on?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can make this clear to me
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When son you have to flash the boot.IMG for the ROMs using the computer. That means every time you want to flash a new ROM you have to use a computer also.
Sent from my fauxed HOX running ViperX

First of all,
Thanks a lot to everyone who have been answering my questions.
Okay so if I read and understand everything correctly it is still relatively simple to install custom roms but I need a computer everytime I install a new ROM and HTC can see there was a custom recovery and ROM installed. (and this will possibly void my warranty)
Is that the right way of summarizing this or is there more?
and.. do you guys think there will ever be a S-OFF option?
Thanks in advance:good:

benno4403 said:
First of all,
Thanks a lot to everyone who have been answering my questions.
Okay so if I read and understand everything correctly it is still relatively simple to install custom roms but I need a computer everytime I install a new ROM and HTC can see there was a custom recovery and ROM installed. (and this will possibly void my warranty)
Is that the right way of summarizing this or is there more?
and.. do you guys think there will ever be a S-OFF option?
Thanks in advance:good:
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Yup, you got it all right. S-off is gonna be released for sure, just don't know when.
Sent from my fauxed HOX running ViperX

Tingelholm said:
Yup, you got it all right. S-off is gonna be released for sure, just don't know when.
Sent from my fauxed HOX running ViperX
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Okay. thanks
I hope we might see a S-OFF for the one x in the near future then!
so to be clear, when I receive my phone tomorrow and want to install a custom ROM (for example android revolution)
I need to:
1. Root the phone
2. Install a custom recovery (like clockworkmod)
3. and then what?
because the description in the Android Revolution ROM topics states:
" You need:
HTC One X unlocked with htcdev.com (S-ON) or S-OFF <-- but I do not have to unlock it via htcdev to be able to install it?
ClockworkMod Recovery or 4EXT Touch Recovery (coming soon)
Firmware package from downloads section" <-- and does he mean by firmware package just ROM or?
sorry for all these questions but I am new to the One X and this other procedures
Thanks for the help and patience

You need htcdev unlock for permanent root.
Then you flash clockworkmod, take a backup and flash Rom and kernel (boot.img).

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You need htcdev unlock for permanent root.
Then you flash clockworkmod, take a backup and flash Rom and kernel (boot.img).
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Okay thanks, much clearer now.
aren't there any manuals or guides for this? I tried to find something detailed but I could not find it.

benno4403 said:
Okay thanks, much clearer now.
aren't there any manuals or guides for this? I tried to find something detailed but I could not find it.
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Check out YouTube. Cursed4Eva have some good tutorials, that's what I used when I unlocked my HOX
Sent from my fauxed HOX running ViperX

Tingelholm said:
Check out YouTube. Cursed4Eva have some good tutorials, that's what I used when I unlocked my HOX
Sent from my fauxed HOX running ViperX
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Okay thanks, I will check it out.

...or u take a look at THIS

Just so you know, once you unlock the bootloader there is no going back. You can relock it but it will show RELOCKED instead of LOCKED. So HTC will always know, and they can deny warranty claims if they chose to do so.

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Just so you know, once you unlock the bootloader there is no going back. You can relock it but it will show RELOCKED instead of LOCKED. So HTC will always know, and they can deny warranty claims if they chose to do so.
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I think that only warranty connected with software not hardware
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

Don't root it today use it for a few days quite a few devices have had issues out of the box if test it first,
The warranty thing is all hearsay we have no fact I've heard several people get their phones fixed/replaced htc are legally obliged to stick to their warranty especially if it is a hardware fault. Not 100% sure on where we stand but htc can't just cancel our consumer rights
Sent from my HTC One CMX

Okay guys just received my one x.. so some of you suggest to wait before unlocking, rooting and flashing? (Just to test hardware or wait for soff?)
So are there many 'problem' phones?
Thanks guys
Sent from my Desire HD using xda app-developers app

I modded mine to my liking almost immediately, never looked back.

EDIT: Nevermind: got the token to work was something on the HTCDEV website

whynot66 said:
Don't root it today use it for a few days quite a few devices have had issues out of the box if test it first,
The warranty thing is all hearsay we have no fact I've heard several people get their phones fixed/replaced htc are legally obliged to stick to their warranty especially if it is a hardware fault. Not 100% sure on where we stand but htc can't just cancel our consumer rights
Sent from my HTC One CMX
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It's like this: There are statutory rights. In addition to that there is a warranty. HTC are perfectly within their right to cancel a warranty, but your statutory rights continue.
In the UK, in practice, your rights are with the retailer, unless you purchased it on credit, in which case they stand with the finance company (in theory, but as a matter of practicality, hit up the retailer first).
Oh, IANAL.