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Sprint Upgrading 3G Coverage Area To EvDO Rev B October 7th? (ET4G & 3VO Compatible)

Sprint Upgrading 3G Coverage Area To EvDO Rev B October 7th? (ET4G & 3VO Compatible)
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We just got tips from two separate sources, so lets roll with this one. Sprints network vision press conference is scheduled for October 7th of this year, where they are reportedly going to discuss their 4G network plans going forward. What has not been rumored yet is any updates and future upgrades to their existing 3G network. We just learned from our two separate sources that Sprint plans on upgrading their existing EvDO Rev A 3G network to Rev B, enabling much faster speeds on both the up and down link. We were told to expect up to 9Mbps down and 2Mbps up, enabling them to surpass every other 3G network in the US including the “4G” networks T-Mobile and ATT like to say they have. Not all current phones support EVDO Rev B, but we do know at a minimum the Evo 3D and Epic Touch 4G both in fact have Rev B compatible chips out of the box. Lets hope this one pan’s out.
UPDATE: After receiving a few emails, we just wanted to stress something. Take all of this as rumor for now until official. You should always do that! Also we stated the Evo 3D and Epic Touch 4G will work if this all pans out, but its absolutely possible many other phones will. We only can confirm those two.
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Source: UPDATE: Sprint Upgrading Existing 3G Coverage Area To EvDO Rev B October 7th? – GizmoFusion

younggangsta_s said:
Not all current phones support EVDO Rev B, but we do know at a minimum the Evo 3D and Epic Touch 4G both in fact have Rev B compatible chips out of the box. Lets hope this one pan’s out.]
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[citation needed]
inb4 ****storm

daneurysm said:
[citation needed]
inb4 ****storm
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inb4 ****storm+1 LMFAO!!!
Maybe if everyone in that other thread contacts gizmo they will cite their source.

daneurysm said:
[citation needed]
inb4 ****storm
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You took the workds right out of my mouth.
Good one sir, good one.

This is old
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greengoldmello said:
This is old
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To everyone except Samsung?

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man I hope its true for the epic touch cause it feels like the sprint network is getting worse by the day.
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This was the article, followed by the iFixit tear down that started all this crap in the first place. I never got an email back from Bryan though. Shocker I know.

Yeah sprints network is getting worse by the day. I used to get 1 megs Down on 3g a year ago when I first got my epic. Now on going about 300-400 kbps on my original epic and my epic touch. It seems so slow.
The Evo3D Killer!!!

Seems like more and more people near you have sprint now lol
Samsung Galaxy S Dos indeed

musclehead84 said:
Yeah sprints network is getting worse by the day. I used to get 1 megs Down on 3g a year ago when I first got my epic. Now on going about 300-400 kbps on my original epic and my epic touch. It seems so slow.
The Evo3D Killer!!!
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I bet your neighbor is using tethering and downloading torrents just to see how much data he can use in a month.

This could very well be possible. I have heard that this is actually why Epic 4G Touch users have been suffering from the dropped voice/data, because Sprint has begun updating their towers. I heard this I believe it was on the Android Central forums by someone from Sprint. I'm too lazy to try to find it but it was a topic regarding the random radio drops on the E4GT. I thought the rep was referring to LTE upgrades but it might also be Rev B. I know they are killing off IDEN next year so who knows.. Sprint doesn't even know what they are doing half of the time.

Overstew said:
I bet your neighbor is using tethering and downloading torrents just to see how much data he can use in a month.
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Nerdy ass xda members ****ing up the network doing that dumb ****, smh
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My data usage sucks during the day. Just more people on the network LOL.
3AM data speeds (home) are about 800-1000Kb/sec
3PM data speeds (home) are about 90-240Kb/sec
4AM data speeds (at work / airport) are abut 800-1100Kb
2PM data speeds (at work / airport) are still about 500-900kb)
Where I live at home there are about 200 buildings all like 20+ floors in probably a mile radius. Wifi channels are cramped so I tend to run my wifi routers at the end of the channel spectrum since most people by default are killing channel 6.
It's really a tower to population issue.

[Q] Does the SGH-T989 have 3G?

Does this phone work on 3g, I am very curious because it has it built in to the phone all i see is E, 4G, if not is there a way to get 3G. I will donate alot if I can get 3G

Considering HSPDA+ is effectively enhanced 3G, I'd say that it does. (Yes, it also supports UTMS as well.)

lets put it that way.... you can not have 4G without 3G

We definitely have 3g support. As far as us having a 3g icon, I don't think we have one. T-Mobile most likely did not and will not approve of us having a 3g icon because of marketing trickery. The average consumer will not understand why their 4g phone is constantly saying 3g in a poor service area.
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We don't see 3G because the flickering is very annoying, when the phone is bouncing from UMTS (3G) and HSPA (4G) it's mostly just a technicality anyway.

Yup. I see the H icon all the time, but then again I'm on CM. Not all roms have a 3g/H icon so you could actually BE on 3g but it'll still show 4g.

If you are rooted the guys from team kang have built settings into their rom control on the Juggernaut where you can set it to show 3g when on UMTS and H or 4g when on HSPA and above. Pretty sweet tweak. I love seeing the 3g.
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I'm stock and have seen the 3G icon on my phone.

sddale2001 said:
I'm stock and have seen the 3G icon on my phone.
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i agree above... would be nice to see the icons on stock gs2!!!

azvato said:
i agree above... would be nice to see the icons on stock gs2!!!
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I guess I'm just a little confused as to why you need to physically see the icon..?
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Towle said:
I guess I'm just a little confused as to why you need to physically see the icon..?
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My guess is that the OP wants to see whether or not he's in 4g zone or using 4g connection. Although Tmobile doesn't really have a full-pledged 4g network.

babymatteo said:
My guess is that the OP wants to see whether or not he's in 4g zone or using 4g connection. Although Tmobile doesn't really have a full-pledged 4g network.
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install open signal from android market https://market.android.com/details?id=com.staircase3.opensignal&hl=en
that will show if you are on 3G or 4G (aka 3.5G or H+)

sddale2001 said:
I'm stock and have seen the 3G icon on my phone.
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Where have you seen this? where are you located? This is probably PCS 3G/4G!

heygrl said:
Where have you seen this? where are you located? This is probably PCS 3G/4G!
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Madison WI.
I was messing with some apps or settings and noticed it said 3G instead of 4G but it was just once. I might have been on a call...not sure if I was or not though. For sure it said 3G though...I was wondering if it would show it also.

lagoofer said:
Does this phone work on 3g, I am very curious because it has it built in to the phone all i see is E, 4G, if not is there a way to get 3G. I will donate alot if I can get 3G
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Tmo "4G" is really "FauxG", meaning it's a hoax. It's really all 3g or edge, sad to say LTE is real 4G.

KillaHurtz said:
Tmo "4G" is really "FauxG", meaning it's a hoax. It's really all 3g or edge, sad to say LTE is real 4G.
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stop worrying about what the technology is and worry about what speeds you get. LTE vs HSPA+ is moot with LTE only being slightly more specturally efficient, not that it really matters to the end user. Verizon's LTE and T-Mobile's HSPA both run the same numbers in Las Vegas.

heygrl said:
stop worrying about what the technology is and worry about what speeds you get. LTE vs HSPA+ is moot with LTE only being slightly more specturally efficient, not that it really matters to the end user. Verizon's LTE and T-Mobile's HSPA both run the same numbers in Las Vegas.
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+1 to that. The other day had to go to a Dr. Off near Sunrise Hospital in Las Vegas. Speedtest.net gave me 18.2MB/s download. That is the fastest I have yet seen and seriously doubt could be much better on any service. Watched perfectly streaming movie on Netflix for a while, then watch beautifully streaming Hulu+ TV show I wanted to catch up on, while daydreaming in the Dr. Office waiting for my turn

Docmjldds said:
+1 to that. The other day had to go to a Dr. Off near Sunrise Hospital in Las Vegas. Speedtest.net gave me 18.2MB/s download. That is the fastest I have yet seen and seriously doubt could be much better on any service. Watched perfectly streaming movie on Netflix for a while, then watch beautifully streaming Hulu+ TV show I wanted to catch up on, while daydreaming in the Dr. Office waiting for my turn
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I got this in Anthem with the new update. Feels like next generation speeds!
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heygrl said:
I got this in Anthem with the new update. Feels like next generation speeds!
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Wow. Usually have to go farther down into the Valley to get decent speeds. Used to live in the CC. Now up in Madeira Canyon.

actually no you're right.. the tower next to albertsons is backhaul starved because it was upgraded to 3G this year but is not high traffic enough so fiber upgrades are on the back burner. This was on the tower near walgreens and hampton road

this is the best news for all T-MOBILE customers ever.

soon we won't have to go through all the nonsense, not having the right bands for our phones.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/23/t-mobile-lost-more-customers-in-q4-will-launch-lte-in-2013-with/

Never thought I'd see the day I would actually be able to use my Nokia E63 on 3G bands...its only 5 years late lol.
Now I'm a bit confused...if they use the AWS band for LTE, what about our phones that use AWS for HSPA+?

Our phone doesn't support att's lte but it does support 1900mhz 3g/4g
Newer Tmo phones will have lte most likely
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zander21510 said:
Never thought I'd see the day I would actually be able to use my Nokia E63 on 3G bands...its only 5 years late lol.
Now I'm a bit confused...if they use the AWS band for LTE, what about our phones that use AWS for HSPA+?
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The phones will probably use multiple bands at the same time ... hspa+ on one and LTE on another. Right now our SGS2 gets dual band hspa+

Cool deal. Although the best news ever for me, as a T-mobile customer, would be something along the lines of "Dear Loyal 10 year T-mobile customer, we are proud to inform you that your bill will be FREE forever, thank you for your continued loyalty."

I was thinking that T-Mobile have a sharing agreement with Sprint with in regards to LTE. I'm liking this plan much better with finally joining other 3G phones. I'm probably going to pick up an old 3 unlocked phone as a back up now in the near future.
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guys... you do know that LTE data packets are not the same as 3G data right?
so even if they are on 1900 radio frequency it does not mean they can get 3G 1900 on LTE 1900 and vice versa
the guy that wrote that piece of engadget was totally wrong in assuming that

yeah...I've owned a few phones, my E63 never received 3G under Tmo, it was a UMTS 850 / 1900 device, it worked with AT&T just fine. My N1 and NS were HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100; both supposedly only compatible with T-Mo's AWS. And our t989 is HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100...working with both Tmo and ATT's 3g UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+.
LTE is a completely different technology by my understanding...if they use the AWS band for LTE...phones like the Nexus S and One would cease to work on 3g, correct?

zander21510 said:
LTE is a completely different technology by my understanding...if they use the AWS band for LTE...phones like the Nexus S and One would cease to work on 3g, correct?
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using your assumption
if they use AWS band 1700 + 2100 for LTE like they are doing in Canada (Rogers, Bell, Telus) then yes, it will mean AWS phones made for HSPA 1700 / 2100 will not work on those 3 networks
because the technology is different, and thus data packets are different, even if they are on the same radio frequency
luckily in the case of the SGH-i727 counter part of our phone, is enough to flash it with the correct modem to get HSPA AWS instead of LTE AWS
however the case with the 1900 LTE frequency, does not enable current 1900 HSPA phones to work on LTE

This is a double edged sword. It will draw 10's of thousands, if not 100's of thousands of iPhones users to T-Mo with the promise of cheaper plans. Then they will congest the network, T-Mo will raise prices to increase bandwidth and we all loose out.

Don't our T989's have LTE ready to go (for the most part)? I am trying to upload a screenshot but xda is saying it has an improper file extension... *#2263#
Angstig gepost van mijn Galaxy SII

Yes! Now i will be able to purchase and use international phones. Great news!
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gallaxxeess said:
This is a double edged sword. It will draw 10's of thousands, if not 100's of thousands of iPhones users to T-Mo with the promise of cheaper plans. Then they will congest the network, T-Mo will raise prices to increase bandwidth and we all loose out.
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but if it means I can download faster than 2mbs consistently and our 3g will be compatible with the rest of the world.... awesome

hompsar said:
Don't our T989's have LTE ready to go (for the most part)? I am trying to upload a screenshot but xda is saying it has an improper file extension... *#2263#
Angstig gepost van mijn Galaxy SII
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no LTE is only build in on the i727 our T989 is missing the LTE chip, the i727 can run AWS when flashed with a proper Tmo radio
ugotproblemz said:
Yes! Now i will be able to purchase and use international phones. Great news!
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no, world phones are not compatible unless they have AWS 1700
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but if it means I can download faster than 2mbs consistently and our 3g will be compatible with the rest of the world.... awesome
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there will be no iPhones in Tmo until they release an AWS 1700 version of it, if ever

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Sorry, but that LTE menu is false hope. It's been researched.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417095

So are our phones LTE capable???

I was told by a sprint employee they were, then here that they're not. Then I see this in a thread...
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Same issue in Houston two days ago. Wife's Evo 4G had no issues connecting right next to me so I knew it wasn't a tower issue, but my phone or the plan. Called Sprint and talked to three people. The last person I got was in the 4G department. They found that the system is going through upgrades right now for LTE, but he would not elaberate due to privacy concerns... or something like that. He said that my phone had been removed from the Wimax channel to the LTE channel. Since that happened the towers were ignoring my request for an IP. He said the phone is either setup for Wimax or LTE but not for both. 0_o So I asked him how to setup the phone for LTE and he said "there is no need yet since LTE is not open to the public, but only in the testing phase" So I asked... exactly "So can I call back and have my phone switched from Wimax to LTE when LTE is opened up to the public in Houston?" He said "Yes"?!?!?!?!
What does that mean??? He knows all about my phone and what it can do so why did he say that?
Also he mentioned that this seems to be happening to all Epic 4G Touch phones since they are listed in the Sprint system as LTE capable. So that is why people in Q1/Q2 LTE area's are having the issue.
Call sprint and get the 4G people on the phone to reprop your phone from LTE channel back to Wimax.
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Caulkins E4GT GB 2.9.2 bare ROM, FB27 modem, rogue gunslinger kernel on one EPIC beast of a phone.

No.
10char

No they are not. Do not always listen to a Sprint employee 90% of them are flat out stupid. We will not have LTE support. There IS however a SPH-L710 that passed WiFi certs a few weeks back. My guess is that it's the SGS2 but with LTE support and WiMax removed.

Asking a Sprint call center employee to explain or elaborate on a technical detail of their network is like asking a McDonalds counter person to explain how they raised their cows.
They'll give you their 4th grade education mixed with overheard and misunderstood watercooler rumor as fact. "Could you turn off your phone, and pull out the battery? Now restart it! See its fixed, just like our network! Thanks for calling Sprint! Is there anything I can do for you?"***
Oh, btw, if for some reason our phones were capable, it would have been a selling point since release. So, sadly, no.
And if you google it, there are some people talking about tear-downs, and the visible chips, and how those chips are not LTE capable....
(*** btw, not a Sprint hater. Or even a Sprint employee hater. just a call-center, script-reading, poor misinformed souls hater. please don't attempt to answer my question if you don't actually know the answer just to boost your solution resolution percentages)
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ahoyt05 said:
I was told by a sprint employee they were, then here that they're not.
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In my limited dealings with sprint cs, they aren't the brightest.
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"So can I call back and have my phone switched from Wimax to LTE when LTE is opened up to the public in Houston?" He said "Yes"?!?!?!?!
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When it's worded that way, the guy probably thought he was asking if he can switch to an LTE capable phone. If current Wimax phones only needed a firmware update to work on LTE, Sprint would be doing some good PR work so everyone knew it.

There's a reason the G-Nex is advertised as "Sprints first LTE phone"
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I LOL'ed when I saw that hahaha
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ydoucare said:
When it's worded that way, the guy probably thought he was asking if he can switch to an LTE capable phone. If current Wimax phones only needed a firmware update to work on LTE, Sprint would be doing some good PR work so everyone knew it.
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I agree I assumed he was implying that as well.
It is true though that these phones are not LTE capable.
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The only way this phone is going to get you anywhere near lte is if it breaks and asurion runs out of replacements

Somewhat true
I will look for the Doc about this,but I did read some investor fact sheets for sprint transfer to LTE. The big selling point for big investors to put money into sprints LTE was a wider spectrum that would include the bands needed for wimax phones to receive 4g in a sprint LTE only area.
They use a similar system in France, China and other countries where the gov stepped in and funded a super fast wireless broadband system. Are phones would still not be able to roam on LTE but on Sprints network we would still benefit from LTE.

sprint op are dumb. You need to have an LTE chip for that feature

MvDef said:
I will look for the Doc about this,but I did read some investor fact sheets for sprint transfer to LTE. The big selling point for big investors to put money into sprints LTE was a wider spectrum that would include the bands needed for wimax phones to receive 4g in a sprint LTE only area.
They use a similar system in France, China and other countries where the gov stepped in and funded a super fast wireless broadband system. Are phones would still not be able to roam on LTE but on Sprints network we would still benefit from LTE.
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Would that benefit not come from users going to LTE and getting off (for the most part) of the 3G however. If Sprint is in fact doing things somewhat like Verizon is most 3G data is being offloaded (iirc) to the LTE band which frees up 3G.

cidica said:
Would that benefit not come from users going to LTE and getting off (for the most part) of the 3G however. If Sprint is in fact doing things somewhat like Verizon is most 3G data is being offloaded (iirc) to the LTE band which frees up 3G.
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The way you put it makes it to easy. next time I'm not going ramble on and on.....
Hahaaa

yang704 said:
sprint op are dumb. You need to have an LTE chip for that feature
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Also, having a processor that supports LTE wouldn't hurt.
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Will ASUS ZenFone 2 ZE500CL 4G LTE work on Verizon's network?

Hey guys, hoping that someone can help me out here. I am a long Verizon Galaxy Nexus user and am ready to retire it, but keep my unlimited data. My question is will this phone work on Verizon's network. Can someone shed some insight on this, because I'm ready for the upgrade.
http://www.amazon.com/ZenFone-Singl...qid=1427931967&sr=1-2&keywords=asus+zenfone+2

If you get a 4G LTE sim card, it should work, but you will not be able to fall back on Verizon's CDMA network.

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If you get a 4G LTE sim card, it should work, but you will not be able to fall back on Verizon's CDMA network.
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Appreciate the quick response! You say I won't be able to fall back to Verizons CDMA (3G) network, but looking at the description of the phone it has all of Verizons CDMA capabilities.
Single-SIM；3G WCDMA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100；4G LTE 700 / 900 / 1800 (FDD 3, 8, 28)
Also, isn't it true that Verizon plans on moving to pure LTE?

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/nso/enterDeviceId.do?&zipRdr=y
I checked my Asus Zenfone 2 and Verizon says not compatible.
I will say, I have been very happy on T-Mobile.

alose said:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/nso/enterDeviceId.do?&zipRdr=y
I checked my Asus Zenfone 2 and Verizon says not compatible.
I will say, I have been very happy on T-Mobile.
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Does the phone utilize the 700mhz band with t-mobile?
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jvs60 said:
Does the phone utilize the 700mhz band with t-mobile?
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No band 12 from what I see.

TheYoz said:
Appreciate the quick response! You say I won't be able to fall back to Verizons CDMA (3G) network, but looking at the description of the phone it has all of Verizons CDMA capabilities.
Single-SIM；3G WCDMA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100；4G LTE 700 / 900 / 1800 (FDD 3, 8, 28)
Also, isn't it true that Verizon plans on moving to pure LTE?
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WCDMA is NOT the same as CDMA.
It's confusing, but let me explain.
3G (or UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+) uses technology that is based on CDMA..but it's called Wideband CDMA (WCDMA)...whereas Sprint and Verizon just use "regular" CDMA.....so this phone WILL NOT WORK with Verizon CDMA.

So with active Sim can use the zenfone 2 on Verizon. But no service in 3g areas?

CravinR1 said:
So with active Sim can use the zenfone 2 on Verizon. But no service in 3g areas?
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no, I bought one without thinking about compatability, put my SIM card in, it recognized the card but it would not find service. The device had a 'network finder' in settings and found ATT, but not VZ. I called up support to see if there was ANY way to make it work, no. The ZF2 will not work at all on Verizon. Had to ship it back... :crying:

ZenFone2 (ZE551ML) will work on GSM carrier's networks in North America. However, CDMA carriers such as Verizon and Sprint do not work with this device. The 2 major GSM carriers here in the USA are AT&T and T-Mobile. For more info please see our FAQ and Zenfone Quick Service support sites:
http://www.asus.com/us/Phones/ZenFone_2_ZE551ML/HelpDesk/
http://www.asus.com/us/support/self-service/11/
Sincerely,
ASUS_USA

_https://apn.gishan.net/settings/962_13_verizon_apn_settings_for_asus_zenfone_2.php_
I don't have one of these handsets so I cannot confirm this will solve radio programming problems this device probably exhibits. The problem with affordable great phones is they hamper Verizon's other handsets and therefore threaten the business model. Sad times, but this is what has me waiting patiently for the market of blok phones to appear.

Bog4rt said:
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I don't have one of these handsets so I cannot confirm this will solve radio programming problems this device probably exhibits. The problem with affordable great phones is they hamper Verizon's other handsets and therefore threaten the business model. Sad times, but this is what has me waiting patiently for the market of blok phones to appear.
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I can almost guarantee that 4g lte won't work since this is a gsm phone.
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TheYoz said:
Hey guys, hoping that someone can help me out here. I am a long Verizon Galaxy Nexus user and am ready to retire it, but keep my unlimited data. My question is will this phone work on Verizon's network. Can someone shed some insight on this, because I'm ready for the upgrade.
http://www.amazon.com/ZenFone-Singl...qid=1427931967&sr=1-2&keywords=asus+zenfone+2
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I just got a ZF2 and I'm currently on AT&T, but when I search networks this is what I get. Just thought I'd share
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Man i really hate Verizon! However i live in the middle of nowhere and Verizon is the only service we can use. Verizon never gets any good phones or if it does it makes sure it pressures the manufacturer into locking them down.

It's not just about the phones being locked but CDMA and GSM using different hardware and software. Most of the LTE phones sold by Verizon and Sprint are unlocked however you still need correct hardware and software to make it work on GSM networks. To say nothing of the least of making sure you have the correct bands.
If you're wanting this phone because of its dual sim, you need to pass. This phone used subpar and outdated hardware on Sim 2 and is firmware blocked for data using only 2G for voice/text. 2G is already being shut down by AT&T in the states and T-Mobile is following. This "Flagship" dual sim phone is actually going to be a single sim phone for those of us in the states in about a year. I got suckered and am now looking for another phone. There are plenty of companies out there offering up to date hardware at the same price.