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Vodafone HSDPA - does it exist?

I've just cancelled my Desire/TMobile contract under Distance Selling Regs due to lack of 3G coverage in my area. Occasionally I would find a pocket of superfast 2Mbps HSDPA coverage, but mostly it was crap 2G.
I still have my Vodafone contract running so I'm thinking of staying with them and upgrading (although they're more expensive than TMob).
I've done a few speedtests, and I never get more than 0.47Mps on a 3G signal, although this is available nearly everywhere. Never seen an H.
Can anyone tell me if Vodafone provides the faster H connection anywhere, and whether I'm ever likely to see it in Suffolk?
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setspeed said:
I've just cancelled my Desire/TMobile contract under Distance Selling Regs due to lack of 3G coverage in my area. Occasionally I would find a pocket of superfast 2Mbps HSDPA coverage, but mostly it was crap 2G.
I still have my Vodafone contract running so I'm thinking of staying with them and upgrading (although they're more expensive than TMob).
I've done a few speedtests, and I never get more than 0.47Mps on a 3G signal, although this is available nearly everywhere. Never seen an H.
Can anyone tell me if Vodafone provides the faster H connection anywhere, and whether I'm ever likely to see it in Suffolk?
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I can confirm that I have a H connection on Vodafone (Cardiff). Just tested on the Ookla Speedtest app and getting 1312kbps download and 1296kbps upload.

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Holy jeebus, that's awesome! I'm jealous... I need to get out of the backwaters and live somewhere I can get a decent signal :-(

1753 kbs down 1314 kbs up . Warrington (in the middle of manchester and liverpool) for people who don't know with 3 bars on reception..
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setspeed said:
Holy jeebus, that's awesome! I'm jealous... I need to get out of the backwaters and live somewhere I can get a decent signal :-(
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It was even in the middle of ASDA

Here just down the road (Literally) in Essex

Rusty! said:
It was even in the middle of ASDA
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How did you get the screenshot?

Run the speedtest app, tell it you want to email the result (I picked via GMail, doubt it matters). In the email is a link to a .png file, which is the pic you're after.

Cheers mate I really should learn to press the menu key when I can't find something!

dreamdealer said:
1753 kbs down 1314 kbs up . Warrington (in the middle of manchester and liverpool) for people who don't know with 3 bars on reception..
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I blame the volcanic ash for mine..

Of course, Vodafone has the fastest RAN.

dreamdealer said:
I blame the volcanic ash for mine..
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Got this result a couple of hours later

Niiiiiiiice.
I shall have to run a few more tests in an attempt to beat you lol

Bare in mind speedtest.net is one of the most inaccurate speedtests on the Internet...I wouldn't look to much into it

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Bare in mind speedtest.net is one of the most inaccurate speedtests on the Internet...I wouldn't look to much into it
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i agree with you, that score took me bout 5 attempts. others were on average about 2-3 mb/s. and was surprised it pulled out that speed. but just goes to show your not far off the mark because when i ran the test it said 100 miles to London, and the png came out as 50 miles. maybe there's some technicality i am missing somewhere on why that happens, but it did so i have to admit i really font know why.

Hmmm. I was using Mordax Speedtest and got 589kbps, then installed and ran Speedtest.net and got 2101kbps!
The Mordax one doesn't run as long as the Speedtest, but even still - such a wide disparity! I don't know which I trust, if either!
EDIT: Xtremelabs speedtest gives me 1453kbps

Different speed tests will use different servers, that's why you get variable results.

setspeed said:
I've just cancelled my Desire/TMobile contract under Distance Selling Regs due to lack of 3G coverage in my area. Occasionally I would find a pocket of superfast 2Mbps HSDPA coverage, but mostly it was crap 2G.
I still have my Vodafone contract running so I'm thinking of staying with them and upgrading (although they're more expensive than TMob).
I've done a few speedtests, and I never get more than 0.47Mps on a 3G signal, although this is available nearly everywhere. Never seen an H.
Can anyone tell me if Vodafone provides the faster H connection anywhere, and whether I'm ever likely to see it in Suffolk?
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I tested mine yesterday, was pleasantly suprised!
This was quite early in the morning, but after repeated tests today it seems I always get around 4Mb/s

setspeed said:
I've just cancelled my Desire/TMobile contract under Distance Selling Regs due to lack of 3G coverage in my area. Occasionally I would find a pocket of superfast 2Mbps HSDPA coverage, but mostly it was crap 2G.
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How did you cancel a contract you had already agreed to?

4G Service Sucks....

Mine barely ever connects and then when it does, its like it doesn't know because no pages will load(connection error). Got my azz handed to me by Bionic yesterday. My coworker and I were out for happy hour and did a little speed test on 4g...yep he definitely got me.
I need some WIMAX tweaks immediately!!! LOL..but not really LOLing. Im serious

Verizon's network is better. (fact)
Sprint's phones are better. (fact, with minor opinion)
It's a hard choice, but Sprint's network is fantastic in Florida, so I can't really complain.

sorry your in a bad 4g area. 4G works great for me

Success100 said:
sorry your in a bad 4g area. 4G works great for me
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Same here. Full bar 4G inside my place in SoCal
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Bad 4g is normal with sprint
Sprint's wimax has a 2.5ghz frequency
This means it doesnt do to well when passing walls
Verizon's lte has a 700mhz frequency thats why it was better range
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I dont even have Sprint 4G here in Phoenix, and their 3G sucks. I get about .40mbps on average in Phoenix.

4G doesn't suck, it is just Sprint's half assed implementation that sucks.

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4G doesn't suck, it is just Sprint's half assed implementation that sucks.
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Sprint's 4G & 3G suck!

My 4g inside my house on first floor also sucks but verizon 4g also sucked at my house. In fact verizon dropped occasional calls and I needed to get a network extender. Sprint's network will get better but will probably need lte phone in the future to take advantage of it.

Try the wimax tweaks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265990&page=6
Basically lets wimax latch on to a weaker signal

im pretty sure its dependant on area. I have no issues with 3g. I get usually between 700kbps-1.3mbps. on 4g i usually get between 7-12mbps. Not too shabbby for a guy like me

Sprint 4G is garbage. Downtown in 4 different cities you get 2 bars outside and nothing as soon as you go indoors.

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Sprint 4G is garbage. Downtown in 4 different cities you get 2 bars outside and nothing as soon as you go indoors.
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well..umm..theres always VZ if it doesnt meet your needs? not trying to be funny but if you are dissatisfied maybe you should look into VZ if it doesnt work in the places you need it to homie

Success100 said:
im pretty sure its dependant on area. I have no issues with 3g. I get usually between 700kbps-1.3mbps. on 4g i usually get between 7-12mbps. Not too shabbby for a guy like me
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Same here, I was getting a little slower speeds but for the past week or so that's what I been getting

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4G
Just outside of NW Houston, not super fantastic, but good imo
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I don't understand topics like this.
Its one thing to try to fix this issue (via tweaks, etc) its another to whine.
Feel free to leave any carrier whose network is not performing to your standards.

I haven't even had the chance to experience 4G yet here in my area (not available yet). Still having to pay the $10 a month "premium"data fee though.
That's what truly sucks!

ravenstarr said:
I haven't even had the chance to experience 4G yet here in my area (not available yet). Still having to pay the $10 a month "premium"data fee though.
That's what truly sucks!
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Yes, it sucks but the $10 premium is even for smartphones that do not have 4G.

Sprints 3g speeds have been pretty bad. Anyone I meet on other carriers have like 3mbps while mine has like 1mbps. One bar of 4g signal and I am at 3mbps, two or three bars and I am at 6mbps or more.

Sprint 4g works pretty well for me up and down the east coast anyway in major cities. I travel a lot and spend a lot of time in airports and hotels near airports. The only place I find Sprint to kind of suck is oddly New York.
I had T-mobile which worked most places but their service sucked for speed especially at my home, solid bars but only .4 Mbps with whereas I get 1 Mbps 3g and 8 Mbps 4G with Sprint. Almost as fast as my Comcast cable internet.
Anyway YMMV. Probably VZW is the "best" but their data plans suck with 2Gb limit and they're expensive as hell with poor customer service. Instead of complaining how about doing a little research, ask friends, and take advantage of the trial period and figuring out which works best for you in your area.

[Q]Wcdma?

Hey everyone, I recently got a new Android phone, Samsung galaxy s2x, it should have dual 4g capabilities. The speed isn't great compared to what others have been getting. I usually get around 3-4mbps, the Telus website says 7-14 should be attained...
My question is basically, in the wireless options, I can choose gsm, wcdma or both. Is wdcma considered hspa+ ?
I live in Montreal, where the Telus network should be fully developed. Highest speed I've got was 6mbps.
Anything wrong, or were my expectations too high when buying this phone?
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Also, my girlfriend has an iPhone4 with Telus also, its often quicker than mine on the net...and its a 3g phone.
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see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306045
there are some from Montreal they are getting great speed
the thing is with cell phones, it depends highly in your location and tower
also in Canada do not believe anything that says 4G it's all fake
our infrastructure is poor compared to the USA, at best we can only get good 3G speed even when you see 4G
even the Rogers LTE are no where near as good they also top out around 15 Mbps at its best, while the USA or other counterparts they get like 30 Mbps on LTE

So i'm stuck with slow speeds lol?
I kinda regret going with Telus, they have terrible reception as well as slow speeds...
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850T5m said:
So i'm stuck with slow speeds lol?
I kinda regret going with Telus, they have terrible reception as well as slow speeds...
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It really all depends on where you are when you take the tests. Here is mine from just 5 minutes ago.
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850T5m said:
So i'm stuck with slow speeds lol?
I kinda regret going with Telus, they have terrible reception as well as slow speeds...
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I just tested mine and I got 19 down and 4 up on Telus. Most days I get an average of 10. I live outside of Vancouver. Downtown I am lucky to get 3.
Telus has always given me faster speeds than Rogers. I am very happy with Telus's network.
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850T5m said:
So i'm stuck with slow speeds lol?
I kinda regret going with Telus, they have terrible reception as well as slow speeds...
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I think you are just not tech savy enough to use a cell like the S2X. Try doing a speed test in your browser and you will see that the speed test.net app is crap. I get 21 mbps downlink on telus in mtl using speedtest.net in dolphin HD (using app I get 3-10mbps). Stop blaming the carriers. People like you are just never happy but its your own fault! Maybe also if you would test your phone outside your basement it would help! Mtl reception is flawless, actually reception in QC in general is great.

I have tried all the different modems from the kj3, vk1 and even the Blaze LB7 and different roms and I still get miserable speed on my phone. I have many friends with different phones even 3G phones that are doing alot better. I am getting speeds of less than 300 k downlaod with with full bars.

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I think you are just not tech savy enough to use a cell like the S2X. Try doing a speed test in your browser and you will see that the speed test.net app is crap. I get 21 mbps downlink on telus in mtl using speedtest.net in dolphin HD (using app I get 3-10mbps). Stop blaming the carriers. People like you are just never happy but its your own fault! Maybe also if you would test your phone outside your basement it would help! Mtl reception is flawless, actually reception in QC in general is great.
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This post fails so hard its unreal.

Striker333 said:
I have tried all the different modems from the kj3, vk1 and even the Blaze LB7 and different roms and I still get miserable speed on my phone. I have many friends with different phones even 3G phones that are doing alot better. I am getting speeds of less than 300 k downlaod with with full bars.
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I think some people had similar problems as you. I don't remember exactly but some workarounds are using the supercharger script and running those 3g scripts or whatever it's called.
Someone if i recall correctly couldn't get fast data at all, he opted for a warranty exchange and that fixed it for him.
If anything you could try making your own thread in the Q&A area and maybe those people who had similar problems can answer it for you. Obviously it's not because of your location because your friends' phones get fast speed in the same location

Sprint 3G vs. AT&T LTE

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Not quite science.
On the left: Epic 4G Touch on Sprint 3G in Scottsdale, AZ. Google Music streaming a 6 ½ minute song On the right: Galaxy SII Skyrocket on AT&T LTE in Scottsdale, AZ. Google Music streaming a 48 minute party mix.
Note the length of the medium blue buffering bar on the song. The phone on the left buffered numerous times, the phone on the right did not and loaded the 48 minute track faster than the Sprint phone did the 6 ½ minute track.
After this we both played a Katy Perry video (tits) on the Youtube app in HQ, started at the same time. The phone one the right played through with no interruptions, while the phone on the left buffered many times. By the time the phone on the right was done, the phone on the left was not even halfway. Take a look at the signal bars, the phone on the left was getting 'better' reception.
Anyone know wh Sprint 3G data so slow? I was told that towers had been upgraded and fixed in my area.
I was sold this phone and my last one on the promise of 4G being in the Phoenix area in the near future. My guess is that with the trouble that Clear is having, and the switch to LTE that Sprint is making, that I will never get 4G that works on my phone.
If you know something I don't, please let me know!

When comparing 3g to LTE, of course it's going to seem slow.
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Lte should outperform 3g any day of the week. 3g is bogged down at sprint. Supposedly there will be less traffic on 3g and better capability on the towers part when lte hits for sprint as you will have people moving to 4g to browse. Don't count on that for a while. Look into a perl change. Koreyhas a thread on how to.
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When comparing 3g to LTE, of course it's going to seem slow.
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^ This You're basically comparing a "4g" tech to a 3g signal. Not even considering sprints issues the LTE should be faster. Basic search for you
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G

did you do any research before posting this?
this is like saying look at my 56k vs cable why is cable faster?

Success100 said:
did you do any research before posting this?
this is like saying look at my 56k vs cable why is cable faster?
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Yes but they are galaxy s2 phones, all the same huh.... What's 3g and lte hey they rhyme...
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Atts 3g is like sprints wimax speeds anyway except more reliable.
Att lte is pricey and limited availability tho
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Sprint EVDO 3g vs. AT&T HSPA(+) 3g would be a fairer comparison. Still not fair imo but still same generation technology. It's like trying to compare vhs(2g) vs dvd (3g). Different generation technology. Plus don't hold your breathe for Wimax. You might not make it.

The signal bars has nothing to do with 4g LTE or 3G speeds...
Seriously you knew lte was 10 times faster than (sprints) 3G & any other right? You didn't need these nice gentleman to tell you that. Riiiight bad sprint joke, now hop in 85' DeLorean & "do not post"!

I think it's fair to compare the carrier's abilities in each location. Getting the best of the carrier from each side. It's obviously a better choice to go with AT&T in OP's location, and I wouldn't blame him if he left.
For me, Sprint's speeds are outstanding and I'm not in a hurry to transfer to another carrier anytime soon.

cdma has a max theoretical speed of like 3.something Mbps, of course it's going to be slower.

What Overstew said. Yes, I do know it's not an equal comparison. What I was pointing out is how I've been conditioned to think that not being able to stream music without buffering, or watch a YouTube video without it stopping multiple times is normal. I didn't realize just how slow it was until I compared the two. My speeds are below usable for any premium data type activities.
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There have only been 6 cities so far they have been partially upgraded...and Scottsdale isn't one of them. Go check out S4GRU.com for more info

Korey haim or Feldman you did read his post that said att lte not sprint
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Take the phones to 64st and Greenway and use the sprint 4g. You'll get equal results. I've used it at 7th street and bell and its great. You can't compare a Ferrari and a gremlin.
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Comparing Sprint EVDO-A (3g) with a theo max of 3mbps to a ATT LTE (4g) with a usual speeds of 10-40 mbps.....
How much more rigged can this be?
Apple and oranges...

I don't think I'm anywhere close to the theoretical maximum. I remember 3G with my HTC Touch Pro to be faster than it is today. Seems to only get worse over time.
Yes, apples and oranges. Note the first line, "not quite science".
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Are any of you in other cities able to stream a track from Google Music without it stopping to buffer multiple times? Watch a YouTube video without it stopping to buffer multiple times?
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Are any of you in other cities able to stream a track from Google Music without it stopping to buffer multiple times? Watch a YouTube video without it stopping to buffer multiple times?
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I rarely end up on 3G so the answer would be I have no issues. 3G varies from .5 to 2 Mbps around here and as often as I am flashing firmware and modems it definitely varies. Add on various locations of people with old cell phones without wimax things can get a bit slow.

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I don't think I'm anywhere close to the theoretical maximum. I remember 3G with my HTC Touch Pro to be faster than it is today. Seems to only get worse over time.
Yes, apples and oranges. Note the first line, "not quite science".
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You do realize when touch pro came out there were very few smart phones. And the number is over 100 million now ...sprints 3g was not being raped by millions of smart phones like now.... Most people use more data than minutes etc ... But you also realize sprint wasn't the only one to fall behind on network upgrades but it will get better network vision is coming and lte
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Abysmal LTE connection speed in heart of San Antonio

Proud owner of a new Galaxy III, but not so happy about the connection speeds. I live near Trinity University in the heart of San Antonio.
When I am in CDMA only mode, the phone connects at 800Kbps - 1 Mbps. When I switch to CDMA/LTE mode and reboot the phone, the connection speed ranges between 58Kbps (not a typo) and about 1100 Kbps. The 3G/4G light stays on 3G, though I briefly saw a flash of 4G.
What the heck is up with this? I upgraded to the phone partly because of the press coverage that attended the LTE roll-out in San Antonio. Is this a software problem? Is it a coverage problem?
If anyone else in Central San Antonio can post their connection speeds, I would be grateful. Also, if there is anything I can do to *force* the phone into 4G mode, that would be good to know.
Thanks!
Aaron

Your best next step is to apply the new LG8 update OTA from Sprint and see if that performs any better.

I feel your pain. I live and work in the stone oak area and have been disappointed in the LTE coverage and connection issues.
Check out this website though for a little clarification.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-312-sprint-lte-launch-market-connection-issues/

I can't even connect to 4g today in most areas I have been and inside home. I only saw 4g I've today briefly while traveling in town =(
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Yes, I've yet to get LTE speeds above 2Mbps in San Antonio. I've tried all the way by 1604/Bandera all the way to 90/Gen McMullen Blvd. But to be fair, San Antonio is only like 15% rolled out.

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Yes, that's why I suggested installing the OTA update and retesting. The update is supposed to help with the threshold problem that S4GRU's analysis identified.

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Yes, that's why I suggested installing the OTA update and retesting. The update is supposed to help with the threshold problem that S4GRU's analysis identified.
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Absolutely. The radio alone helps. I wonder though if it has anything to do with San Antonio having so many hills and changes in altitude? Either way, cn is correct. S.A. only has 15% complete but that is prolly more like 20% now. When LTE does connect, it is no joke.
Average 20down and 12up.

I'm still locked out my home tower for LTE. But this was post update it started happening, sucks I can't test out the new radio lol
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Hellz jes baby San Antonio here, I work off 151 and Wiseman got a buddy with sprint Evo lte and 1with gsiii I really believe its not the radio as much as it is towers and sprints coverage, they get spoty coverage all over the 210..
I got ATT lte is blazing hope they get that fixed ASAP I'm tired all ways letting them use my hotspot lol
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When I do connect to 4g its really bad now like its 3g. the tower i usually can connect to at work, i can no longer. I think they may be working on the towers.

Getting consistent connection off marbach and 410
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I barely had WIMAX in Central Cali in the lesser of the two "major" cities in the area, Visalia. Now with my S3 LTE, I can't pick up a 4G signal there anymore.

Nice to see SA town talking.
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Hell yeah. We should all have a get together! lol

I'm getting pretty good 4G speeds by 1604 & 281.
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It was just me. Speed is great. (Original Poster)
Hi folks -- I have been meaning to circle back to correct my original posting. Although LTE reception is not very good inside my house, it is fantastic in most other parts of San Antonio. I have checked in Olmos Park, in the Quarry, in the Rim, etc., and have consistently seen 4G speeds above 10Mbps. Usually, it is closer to 15Mbps. There are some dead spots when data services drop out completely, but -- for the most part -- it is a strong and powerful signal.
Since I'm always quick to give Sprint (and other providers) grief when their service is lacking, I want to make sure I give them credit where credit is due. This phone and the new LTE network are super fast.
Thanks!
Aaron
p.s. I am puzzled by the CAPTCHA on this site. It took me several tries to post this message.

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Hi folks -- I have been meaning to circle back to correct my original posting. Although LTE reception is not very good inside my house, it is fantastic in most other parts of San Antonio. I have checked in Olmos Park, in the Quarry, in the Rim, etc., and have consistently seen 4G speeds above 10Mbps. Usually, it is closer to 15Mbps. There are some dead spots when data services drop out completely, but -- for the most part -- it is a strong and powerful signal.
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Thanks for the update. Out of curiosity, have you installed Sprint's OTA update to v LG8? It is supposed to include more "optimized" LTE connection software. The previous versions (LG2 and below) were believed to set the threshold for LTE signal strength too high, so it was difficult to get and keep an LTE connection. This would only magnify problems caused by the relatively thin tower coverage in newly launched LTE markets such as San Antonio, Houston, etc.

Just picked up the phone. I'm looking good on 4g at I10 and De Zavala
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Hey san antonio peeps,
check this site out. More lte sites to be turned on by the end of august. maps show only new sites. and it shows how far behind some cities are in the lte roll out.
red means sites that are over due that have yet to be turned on. blue are sites that are to be turned on by end of august.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1711-sprint-lte-august-2012-schedule-maps/