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Flashing with pvt4 and 0.93

Ok so i am pretty confused, i have rooted my phone. But not got S-OFF because of it being pvt4. Does this mean i cant flash a custom ROM?
I really wanna flash this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829734
Also, is it essential i have to make a goldcard?
HTC Desire 2.2 (Rooted) On TMOBILE UK with PVT4 and HBOOT 0.93

SeanBond said:
Ok so i am pretty confused, i have rooted my phone. But not got S-OFF because of it being pvt4. Does this mean i cant flash a custom ROM?
I really wanna flash this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829734
Also, is it essential i have to make a goldcard?
HTC Desire 2.2 (Rooted) On TMOBILE UK with PVT4 and HBOOT 0.93
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Is your device PVT4 old (20000) or PVT4 new (40000)?
Read this thread to find out how to check this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853583
You shouldn't have any problems rooting and flashing custom ROMs if your device has a PVT4 20000 erasesize. Use unrEVOked v3.22, safe and best successful method so far.
If your PVT4 has an erasesize of 40000, then i know of only of certain number of ROMs that have been confirmed to work with this type of device - Oxygen, LeeDroid's, ReflexTSenseHD, and MIUI.
You should not have a problem flashing any of these custom ROMs with the modified CWM-AlphaRev Recovery 2.5.1.3, which you must install with unrEVOked if your phone has an erasesize of 40000
As you were originally branded to T-Mobile, you will need to create a Gold Card only if you want to revert back to your original stock ROM (i.e. later on for warranty reasons). You should be able to find your original RUU by searching shipped-roms.com.

Thanks for the detailed reply!
I dont really care about the warrenty thing etc, and i could always do that later i guess.
Ill have a check now on what it is.
So will apps2sd still work etc?
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Ok, i have checked and i have 2000! YUPPEEEE!
I have already rooted with unrEVOked, does this mean that i need to again? i also have clockwork

A2SD+/Data2SD will work fine for you and since you are already rooted, you will not need to re-root or reinstall clockwork either. Flash away in confidence
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Awesome, do i need to make a partition to do a2sd? and does it matter i dont have S-OFF?
Cheers for the help man

Yes you will need to, all custom roms require this prerequisite really. You can use Rom Manager to achieve this, it allows you to create up to an SD-EXT size of 512 MB for dedicated app data space. If you require a bigger EXT partition use AmonRa and flash with unrevoked, or use GParted - there are plenty guides on the forum on how to do this.
Yes, you dont need s-off, unless you want full root access to your phone.
Edit: sorry for the delay in replying... still trying to get use to swype.
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Not too bothered about full root tbh, aslong as i have a2sd.
Cheers for the help mate

Then you are good to go after you make your ext partition
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Just backing up my SD card now, the only thing i will miss is the sence clock

I don't use that clock anymore, nor do I use sense UI... I'm a fully fledged miui convert
If you want the sense clock, search the marketplace for 'sense clock widget', there are many variations - customisable too
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Yeah ill have a look, i might look at some other options too.
I <3 the clock though, its actually one of the reasons i got an HTC lol

SeanBond said:
Yeah ill have a look, i might look at some other options too.
I <3 the clock though, its actually one of the reasons i got an HTC lol
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Well if that's your thing then by all means, go for it

I totally understand where you are coming from though... I used to love sense ui and everything it had to offer but once I tried miui, I was amazed at how good it actually was/is, running out of superlatives for it
You could also give the DHD roms a go (ported from Desire HD), as they include the cool new sense features.
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Sorry for hijacking the thread, I've read the discussion so far but I have a question, it seems SeanBond did not debrand b4 rooting and went ahead to install a custom rom. Pls can I do same as I'm presently using a O2 branded phone, do advise me
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scorror said:
Sorry for hijacking the thread, I've read the discussion so far but I have a question, it seems SeanBond did not debrand b4 rooting and went ahead to install a custom rom. Pls can I do same as I'm presently using a O2 branded phone, do advise me
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No need to apologise and its good that you are making the effort to ask before a mistake is made, so i appreciate that.
He did debrand by using unrEVOked - it does not require you to use a Gold Card for it and provides you with root access (software root) to the phone. Only when you want to return to stock rom, you then you will need to create and use a Gold Card before running the appropriate RUU. If you want to create a Gold Card, use the one in my sig below.

Thanks. Do I need to create a gold card first b4 installing a custom rom or when I want to return to stock. Or if I'm on custom rom it's possible to still create a gold card thereafter
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Yeah i didnt make a goldcard.
Was pretty easy, flashed right from ROM manager.

scorror said:
Thanks. Do I need to create a gold card first b4 installing a custom rom or when I want to return to stock. Or if I'm on custom rom it's possible to still create a gold card thereafter
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You have two options here.
If you are branded and want to root in order to install a custom ROM, then you either create a Gold Card to unlock the phone's CID, just use unrEVOked, which does not require the creation of a Gold Card and provides you with root access to your phone, thus allowing you to flash custom roms, custom kernels, and custom radios. I don't know the full workings of unrEVOked, but it bypassed your phones CID lock feature and does not require you to create a Gold Card.
You only need to create a Gold Card if you want to return to stock rom as you were originally network branded.

How do they know? there is nothing visual that shows its branded?

SeanBond said:
How do they know? there is nothing visual that shows its branded?
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Software branding, for instance, when you boot the phone, it will show your network carrier splashscreen, like T-Mobile, or 02, or Orange. Also, their own icons will also be visible on the homescreen, for example.

[Q] Help Needed in Rooting HTC Desire (Froyo)

Forum newbie here. Sorry if this has been answered before, but I can't seem to find it poking around.
I want to root a newly-purchased HTC Desire that came stock w/ Android 2.2
I've never installed HTC Sync on my PC, and I've never even used the stock 2Gb micro SD that came with the phone (I immediately replaced it w/ a 16Gb mem card).
The Hboot USB Driver installed properly so that I can see "Android Bootloader Interface" in Device Manager under "Android Phone" when the phone is plugged into the PC, but when I turn the phone on again in normal mode and plug it back in, it only shows "ADB" under "Other Devices". I did turn on USB debugging and changed the Sync mode to "Charge only" after plugging in the phone.
The Unrevoked program (3.22) starts up a bit too slowly. And when I try to root the phone, nothing happens past the splash screen. It seems unable to detect the phone. Why might this be?
My phone's details are as follows:
Android ver. 2.2
Software # 2.13.707.2
Hboot ver. 0.93.001
Bravo PVT4 SHIP S-ON
Thanks for any help.

Did you try to open the hboot driver.htm file that is inside your unrevoked folder ?
Because in that file it says - step-by-step what you need to do - download some modified drivers and install those first

There isn't a folder of any sort. When I click the unrEVOked icon, it just pops straight to the program. So I figured to install the Hboot driver manually. Still no luck detecting the phone....

Borat38 said:
There isn't a folder of any sort. When I click the unrEVOked icon, it just pops straight to the program. So I figured to install the Hboot driver manually. Still no luck detecting the phone....
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"I've never installed HTC Sync on my PC,"-This is the root of your troubles. Unrevoked uses a Fastboot driver of its own, and another driver from HTC.
So,
First install HTC completely.
Now uninstall HTC Sync program alone (keep the other two programs installed by HTC intact. Do not remove them).
Now boot device to fastboot (Back+Power) and install Unrevoked driver.
Now boot, and run unrevoked in Charge mode.

droidzone, thanks a lot! That did the trick. So now I have the little black ninja for Superuser Permissions.
Thing is, why can I still not transfer all apps onto the SD card? Apps2SD won't do it, and the Manage Applications under Settings won't either. I have to mention that when it said "Done" in the unrEVOked screen after a few minutes of rooting, the phone was left in the Bootloader screen and won't turn off, so what I did was I removed the battery and powered it back on to the normal screen.
What might've gone wrong?

Nothing went wrong. Get an a2sd+ based custom Rom for better transfer of apps. I recommend miui, auraxtsense and leedroid.
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roms
i recommend leedroid you will be familiar with it and it is a lot better than stock

theyau said:
i recommend leedroid you will be familiar with it and it is a lot better than stock
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Second this. LeeDroid is pretty much standard Sense with A2SD+ a few apps thrown in (Titanium is useful on a rom) and nice mods like wake using trackpad. Its a nice introduction to custom roms.

GrenW said:
Second this. LeeDroid is pretty much standard Sense with A2SD+ a few apps thrown in (Titanium is useful on a rom) and nice mods like wake using trackpad. Its a nice introduction to custom roms.
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The closest to stock is teppic74's rooted Rom which is the Rom kitchen applied on stock Rom without modifications but adding rooting and options as addons.
Both leedroid and auraxtsense are pretty much similar and based on stock, but modded. Miui is the easiest and most beautiful of the non hd roms. Choose your pick whichever you like. Just do a nandroid backup from clockworkmod before applying each Rom and you can choose whichever you like.
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droidzone said:
The closest to stock is teppic74's rooted Rom which is the Rom kitchen applied on stock Rom without modifications but adding rooting and options as addons.
Both leedroid and auraxtsense are pretty much similar and based on stock, but modded. Miui is the easiest and most beautiful of the non hd roms. Choose your pick whichever you like. Just do a nandroid backup from clockworkmod before applying each Rom and you can choose whichever you like.
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First, how do I do a nandroid backup from ClockworkMod?
Second, how do CyanogenMod and MoDaCo ROM measure up against LeeDroid and the others mentioned above? I'm only interested in having a ROM that transfers all apps to the SD Card, as well as the ability to undervolt and conserve battery (w/out sacrificing speed).

About S-OFF
One more thing: What is S-OFF and do I need it? My phone is S-ON. Is Alpharev 1.8 the best program for it?
For reference, my full phone details are as follows:
Android ver. 2.2
Baseband ver. 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2
Kernel ver. 2.6.32.15-gd96f2c0
[email protected]#1
Build no. 2.13.707.2 CL274424 release_keys
Software no. 2.13.707.2
Browser ver. Webkit 3.1
Bravo PVT4 SHIP S-ON
HBoot ver. 0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
Radio 5.09.05.30_2
Aug. 10, 2010, 17:52:18
So if I need S-OFF, which do I do first? Flashing a custom ROM or S-OFF?
Thanks for your time.

Thanks guys. What about MoDaCo ROM? How does it measure up against LeeDroid and the others? I'm primarily looking for a ROM that will accomodate well stuff like SetCPU.
My main aim is to undervolt without sacrificing processor speed, as well as to conserve battery power, in addition to moving apps to SD card.
Again, thanks!

[Q] noob root desire guide

i have just been reading this guide to rooting my htc desire (original) and im not sure on this;
***This method only works for users with hboot 0.93 and lower. Sorry 1.06 users, but until unrevoked updates, your stuck on stock htc***
my desire is running on hboot 0.93.0001, does this mean i cant use this method.

You can use this method with your Desire.
0.93 hboot refers to your version actually.

many thanks mate, may have a go later after the IO

sgb101 said:
i have just been reading this guide to rooting my htc desire (original) and im not sure on this;
***This method only works for users with hboot 0.93 and lower. Sorry 1.06 users, but until unrevoked updates, your stuck on stock htc***
my desire is running on hboot 0.93.0001, does this mean i cant use this method.
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Sorry, which guide are you talking about? do u have a link?

sorry link
maikoru~ thanks, all done didnt take any longer than an hour and all is well, i now have CM7, was worried at first when no market but soon fond the update. CM is great, but its only my first custom so i think il be swapping and changing like mad for a while.
can you please recommend your favorites for me to test.
next root the SGS and banish touch wiz to where it belongs ....................

Install Engineering Hboot or not to root?

Hello i have been using the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD and was wondering, on step 4 if i should install engineering hboot or just regularly root? i have an htc desire z running 1.34.405.5 wwe rom

please need some quick advice before i root

evilcuber said:
Hello i have been using the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD and was wondering, on step 4 if i should install engineering hboot or just regularly root? i have an htc desire z running 1.34.405.5 wwe rom
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Installing eng hboot is not needed if you want to root but it is a good idea to have because
it will let you use fastboot commands ,lets say for any reason your recovery fail,you will
have the option to recover your phone through fastboot ,also you will need it if you want
to try different radios. However, if you want to install eng hboot ,you must be very carefull
when doing so otherwise you could brick your phone. make sure you follow every step and make sure that you are installing the the right one .(g2 and desire z have specific hboots).

wait, is it more likely that you will brick your phone if you use engineering hboot? also one last question. i just want to root my phone to install the virtuous unity rom onto my phone and use a fast kernal to allow me to overclock only to 1.3ghz. i dont be doing much else modding on my phone. should i still install hboot eveim if im doing very little?

evilcuber said:
wait, is it more likely that you will brick your phone if you use engineering hboot? also one last question. i just want to root my phone to install the virtuous unity rom onto my phone and use a fast kernal to allow me to overclock only to 1.3ghz. i dont be doing much else modding on my phone. should i still install hboot eveim if im doing very little?
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since you live in canada i assume you have a desire z not a g2 so you do not have to change your hboot for unity ,i didnt say you are more likely to brick your phone if you install eng hboot ,i said it is a good idea to install eng hboot so if for any reason your recovery fails you will have
an option to use fastboot and fix your phone, and then i said be very carefull when installing hboot and make sure you install the right hboot because g2 and desire z partition sizes are different so make sure if you have a desire z you are installing the one for desire z not the one that is for the g2. and make sure you type in the commands exactly like it said in the wiki .
(also seems like the wiki has changed since i was doing this, because i remember installing eng hboot was marked
as optional in the wiki before but now everything is different so you might actually need the eng boot now, i am not %100 sure i would wait for someone else to confirm what i said.)

Thanks for your help, i successfully rooted my htc desire z

@evilcuber May I use your thread to ask an additional question regarding hboot ?
I rooted my French DZ some times ago, I followed a tutorial from cyanogenmod wiki, most probably this one (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_Z:_Rooting) but I do not remember flashing an engineering hboot.
As I would like to install Unity, I have to check my phone runs the right hboot. Here is the information I have :
Thanks for your help !​

I think that as long as you have a DZ and not a G2, your hboot should be fine

[Q] Moving from a custom ROM to a stock ROM

Hi everyone !
I wanted for a while now to move to the stock ROM on my HTC Desire, and I looked a lot (like 2 weeks maybe more) into the forums but doubts remain so here I am. My question might sound a little bit stupid to you but I want to be sure before doing anything because I cannot afford to have a phone that does not work at the moment.
So, my phone is S-OFF, I am running the Runnymede AIO 5.0.3 ROM actually with this baseband 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27, and I have the 4ext Touch Recovery. I would like to use the RUU utility to move back to the stock RUU WWE 2.29.405.5 Radio 32.49.00.32U 5.11.05.27 so can I just do it normally by executing the RUU or should I perform any operation on the phone before proceding.
Thank you in advance for your answer.
Have a great day all !

Just save any data you might need becouse the RUU will trash everything but the SD.
To use the RUU you have to connect in HTC Sync mode.
You can also get the official Gingerbread HTC Desire Android 2.3 Upgrade from htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads .
I used that for a long time without problems.
Runnymede ROMs on Desire hardware aren't a good idea imho, you should have tried something like Cyanogenmod 7.1.

I tried Cyanogenmod for a while and I enjoyed it, but I kind of missed the HTC Layer which may be handy for linking contacts for instance, and I also like the HTC mail client since I use an ActiveSync mail account along with a gMail account.
Anyway thanks a lot for your quick answer.

c6nsor9d said:
Hi everyone !
I wanted for a while now to move to the stock ROM on my HTC Desire, and I looked a lot (like 2 weeks maybe more) into the forums but doubts remain so here I am. My question might sound a little bit stupid to you but I want to be sure before doing anything because I cannot afford to have a phone that does not work at the moment.
So, my phone is S-OFF, I am running the Runnymede AIO 5.0.3 ROM actually with this baseband 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27, and I have the 4ext Touch Recovery. I would like to use the RUU utility to move back to the stock RUU WWE 2.29.405.5 Radio 32.49.00.32U 5.11.05.27 so can I just do it normally by executing the RUU or should I perform any operation on the phone before proceding.
Thank you in advance for your answer.
Have a great day all !
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If I were u, I would backup my current rom first before using the RUU. Before running the RUU, make sure HTC Sync is installed and phone could detect it in your computer. (Use a goldcard if necessary when running the RUU. )

PreScoper said:
If I were u, I would backup my current rom first before using the RUU. Before running the RUU, make sure HTC Sync is installed and phone could detect it in your computer. (Use a goldcard if necessary when running the RUU. )
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Okay, I will do that ! Thank you for your reply.

Geegeeoh said:
I used that for a long time without problems.
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Now there's a wonder since it's an unfinished product
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The official "devs only" 2.3 it's not unfinished.
HTC couldn't push it out as a normal update becouse it has vary little room for apps... but aside from that it is as good as the 2.2.

If you're s-off, you may need to fastboot flash the downgrade.img from Alpharev to allow the hboot to be overridden by the ruu
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