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HTC Desire Debrand

Hey Guys,
im getting a Desire through Telstra tonight, and the first thing i want to do is debrand the thing.
I have read up on some things but still a little confused, can someone point me in the right direction, of 1 how to unlock the phone, root it and the best ROM to install on it.
Much Appreciated

Ok i think i know what im doing now.
One thing though, i just want a normal rom to put on it, just debranded, can anyone recommend me something?
I dont really want custom roms etc

Look in the sticky in rom section, shows the stock roms available. Then you can upgrade to stock 2.2
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Ok so if i use this rom
RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4. 06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe
Which are not rooted do i still need to root the device etc or can i just use this rom and it will update and remove the telstra stuff?
And is this the latest normal 2.2 Rom?

You need to root to debrand, then put the stock Rom on
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Ok no worries ill do that, but is the rom i posted the correct Stock 2.2 Rom i would use in AUS? for the Desire?

Just remember having a goldcard always inserted, while debranding and OTA updating.

I was gunna do this method, no goldcard needed.
http://myhtcdesire.com/modding/how-to-root-your-desire-easily-method-2
But do i only have to have the goldcard inserted while updating and rooting, then i can remove it?

Widge86 said:
I was gunna do this method, no goldcard needed.
http://myhtcdesire.com/modding/how-to-root-your-desire-easily-method-2
But do i only have to have the goldcard inserted while updating and rooting, then i can remove it?
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HI there,
I used the unrevoked method and this provides "root" and ClockworkMod Recovery. I then initially downloaded [ROM-FroYo] Official Froyo HTC Sense ROM (16/07 v1.0c | OpenDesire Team) link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726300
The above rom is very much like the standard HTC sense ROM but without the Tel$tra bloatware. Have a good search on xda though as there have been a number of roms (sense like) been released since this one.
I have since moved on to [ROM-FROYO AOSP] OpenDesire v3.6.1 (720P | 2.6.34.5 SVS KERNEL | 1305mhz) (26/08). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712615
This rom is a "vanilla" (plain) version of the android OS and is half the size of the sense ROM, and is clean and fast, but you lose the "sense" interface and the HTC FM radio.
Everything else camera, wi-fi, GPS, phone, etc works perfectly from me.
BTW, all this is on a Tel$ta Desire (A8183) that is 3 months old. I have had no probs at all.
Hope this helps

Thats awesome info great so ill use the guide i posted to Root the device then i can install any ROM i wont, i think ill use the original 2.2 Rom that i posted earlier in the thread

to confirm even if i want to use a stock HTC RUU rom from the Stock Rom page i still have to Root my device?

Widge86 said:
to confirm even if i want to use a stock HTC RUU rom from the Stock Rom page i still have to Root my device?
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It would be pointless rooting before applying an RUU, as it's not necessary and the flash process will remove root anyway.
That RUU you pointed to will break a Desire with an SLCD screen, so be warned.

Ok so i should just use a hacked rom thats based on the normal one, how do i find out if the phone i have is SLCD?

You can still use an official ROM. Read this for lots of info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749551

WOW now im even more confused i used to be able to hack my old HTC Touch Pro easily lol.
Ok so i have to hope my Telstra delivered phone is still AMOLED, then i wont have any dramas, to be honest im not much into running a custom rom, id rather just get rid of the telstra crap thats going to be on the phone, but i also do not want to brick it or break the screen in the process.
So if i just use one of the RUU updates in your post you linked me too it doesnt matter if its AMOLED or SLCD i can update to it without rooting?

Ill get the phone first work out if i have SLCD or not, then go from there.
I wont Froyo on my phone and no telstra stuff so i can make a goldcard and update, or if i have a AMOLED phone use the Rooting tool and update to any rooted ROM correct?

You can debrand on any type of screen using the correct RUU. You can root both types too.
If you root you cannot run an official ROM, but you can run something almost exactly the same.

Which Froyo Rom (rooted) would be the closest to stock?
To Confirm if i have an AMOLED phone i can just update a Stock Non Branded ROM without rooting? By placing the update.zip on the phone and updating using recovery mode?

Widge86 said:
Which Froyo Rom (rooted) would be the closest to stock?
To Confirm if i have an AMOLED phone i can just update a Stock Non Branded ROM without rooting? By placing the update.zip on the phone and updating using recovery mode?
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hi widge
just go with the flow, unbrand it, root it and play with all the roms, your gonna love it. try em all and see what u like best. I am on nextsense rom 7 at the mo and waiting for the kitchen to open again so i can do some cooking. Tried opendesire a while back and it was pretty mint, may take a lokk at it again myself.

You can't switch to an unbranded rom by using update.zip files, you use an RUU to flash the phone, which requires a goldcard.
To install custom roms you root and install them as zip files in recovery.
You can do both on an SLCD or AMOLED screen, but with an SLCD screen you have to be more careful which RUU you use.

[Q] Been reading for hours and have a question

Hi everyone
I've spent forever reading the forum and have a few questions and hopefully you'll have a quick answer for me.
Excuse my noobness (shouldn't be too bad, I've learned a lot in the last 5 hours!)
I've rooted my desire with unrevoked (it's worked fine)
This is a simlocked (soon to be unlocked first before flash?) handset from 3UK
Installed rom manager pro and backed up everything
All I want to do is install a stock/vanilla froyo 2.2 with sense etc. I don't care if it closes the root and I think I want it to automatically upgrade everything including the radio so I basically end up with a standard unbranded handset. No need for further rooting.
I'll be using rom manager to install the rom. I did notice in this thread:
(stock rom thread) Not allowed to post url's
The stock roms listed, although at the top there are two listed? 122704 & 126984 and they are exe files. Should they be zip files if installed via rom manager? A direct link to the correct rom would be excellent
Sorry for asking, I'm sure you lot get upset by stupid questions, but this is the furthest I can travel without asking.
Thank you
J

Exe files can be used to update the Rom from your pc with USB cable. Please make sure to use the gold card when doing any updates to make sure it works properly after the update.
As for unlocking, you can unlock before or after changing the Rom. Just remember to keep the unlock code just in case. You may need to enter the unlock code twice in a row, this is normal.
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Thanks. I didn't think I'd need a goldcard if I was already rooted and had rom manager? Install from SD?

Why would you want to install a RUU and lose root? There are plenty of good ROMs that are based on official HTC 2.2. Some are almost stock with very few modifications. Download, flash via recovery and you're done.

launton said:
Thanks. I didn't think I'd need a goldcard if I was already rooted and had rom manager? Install from SD?
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even if your rooted a branded device needs a goldcard to flash a generic ruu. just for your info, a vanilla rom dosent include sence, its called vanilla because its plain like the ice cream flavour, this means its a basic aosp rom with none of the htc apps

launton said:
Thanks. I didn't think I'd need a goldcard if I was already rooted and had rom manager? Install from SD?
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A gold card is a must if you had a branded phone (most likely if your phone was bought on a network and locked to a network too). Many users have had problems with WiFi if they update without a gold card
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Ok thanks, so the best thing is to make a gold card and update to stock froyo by usb using exe file with gold card inserted?
I really don't need to keep the phone rooted for future use. All I want is the latest software really, that's all. Thanks for the quick replies by the way guys. Of course if there is a slightly modified rom that I can install without a gold card I'll go for that, as long as it has sense (I like it)

launton said:
Ok thanks, so the best thing is to make a gold card and update to stock froyo by usb using exe file with gold card inserted?
I really don't need to keep the phone rooted for future use. All I want is the latest software really, that's all. Thanks for the quick replies by the way guys. Of course if there is a slightly modified rom that I can install without a gold card I'll go for that, as long as it has sense (I like it)
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you can install any custom rom without needing a goldcard! rather than using rom manager though, i suggest you use the unrevoked recovery flasher to flash the clockworkmod recovery, then its as simple as copying the rom.zip to your sd card and holding vol down and power

I just use the standard ROM on my Desire, never thought about routing as I am happy with the standard ROM with HTC Sense.
Here's a very basic run down of how I unbranded my desire. Please please please read through the guides on the developers forum and make sure you understand the process. It's simple but can damage your phone if you don't follow the instructions carefully.
1. Buy an unlock code (i use the phone on more than one network and it is a good idea to have an unlock code as some roms may lock your phone).
2. Create a gold card. There is a tool to do this which makes it easy to do, search the developers and q and a forums for this.
3. Download a RUU file to your pc. These are exe files that can run from your pc to update the phones ROM.
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Thanks once again.
I'll read some more and see how it goes. Thanks once again

Thanks lads all sorted now.

[Q] n00b Question about rooting

Okay so ive just bought a HTC Desire, after owning an Xperia X10, i was just wondering is it possible to root the Desire without unlocking the bootloader, I want to keep the HTC Sense UI, but be able to install things like setCPU and Titanium Backup Pro
Regards
Vengeance

Or course. But I recommend a custom rom, like leedroid for example(with htc sense )
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Yes, don't need to unlock anything. Just download unrEVOked and away you go!
Don't worry about S-OFF (although people will tel you to do it) - it's not needed if that's all you want to do
HOWEVER, if you're the Orange ROM there will be no way of removing root and going back to 100% stock as sent by Orange if you root. Something to be mindful of

Its an unlocked device, thanks guys appreciate the help
Regards
Vengeance
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What software version is it running on at present? go to Settings>About phone>Software information and post up the software version

i know its running 2.2 but thats it as it hasnt been delivered yet
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Ah right! Well, as soon as you get it post up the information before you do anything else - best be certain on what you currently have before continuing

you can use unrevoked, and it will just root the phone for you.
You will still have the stock sense rom running, but it will be rooted allowing you to install apps which require a device to be rooted

woqii said:
you can use unrevoked, and it will just root the phone for you.
You will still have the stock sense rom running, but it will be rooted allowing you to install apps which require a device to be rooted
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Which has already been stated. I'm just trying to find out more info to allow the OP to make the best decision they can

EddyOS said:
Yes, don't need to unlock anything. Just download unrEVOked and away you go!
Don't worry about S-OFF (although people will tel you to do it) - it's not needed if that's all you want to do
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Eddy you used to S-ON. What benefits are you getting from S-OFF??

Nothing, did it for the hell of it!!
Only thing I've found useful is I can replace the splash screen with one of my own, and it now means AdFree is working as I can't work out how to edit the script to link the hosts file to the SD card yet in my own ROM!

So my desire got delivered today,
Software information
android version
2.2
Baseband version
32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14
Kernal Version
2.6.32.15-g5d39305
[email protected] #1
Build number
2.25.771.1 CL254759 release-keys
Software Number
2.25.771.1
Browser version
Webkit 3.1
regards

I thought the Orange product code was x.xx.61.x?? Does it have Orange branding on it??
EDIT: Orange version is 2.17.61.2, I think you've got the Virgin version
EDIT EDIT: You've got the 3 UK ROM so I take it you're not on Orange

You're in luck! Get this and keep it safe:
http://www.multiupload.com/J230M5J8UD
It's the stock 3UK FroYo RUU
Then go and root it and have fun!!

GingaB said:
Eddy you used to S-ON. What benefits are you getting from S-OFF??
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S-off can also be used to alter the partition tables in order the get more space on /data which is where you're apps are stored.
I'm running Oxygen 2.0 with the Oxygen HBoot table and once I flashed the Oxygen table my free space on the phone went from 80MB free to over 300MB so that's why I went S-off. But make sure you know what you're doing first. If something goes wrong when you're attempting to S-off of flash a new partition table it will brick your phone.

I prefer to use A2SD+ - got 1.5GB partition so plenty of space
(Not that I actually much space - just like to know it's there)

That works too. I prefer it stored on my phone. A bit easier for me to set up and I find it runs faster with it not having to access the SD.

True, might look into that but I still use Sense - we'll see...

EddyOS said:
I thought the Orange product code was x.xx.61.x?? Does it have Orange branding on it??
EDIT: Orange version is 2.17.61.2, I think you've got the Virgin version
EDIT EDIT: You've got the 3 UK ROM so I take it you're not on Orange
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orginally it was but it was unlocked by 3 so i use it on orange

Okay how do i go about debranding my phone does unrevoked do that?
regards

[Q] temporary root my desire

hello
i am new in rooting stuff.
i want to use visionary+ to temp root my device
it worked fine.
Now i want to use ROM manager to backup my current rom without being permanent root. I want to do it using temp root.
Is that possible?
I already tried and it didn't worked..
thank you in advanced for any help!

emm_stra said:
hello
i am new in rooting stuff.
i want to use visionary+ to temp root my device
it worked fine.
Now i want to use ROM manager to backup my current rom without being permanent root. I want to do it using temp root.
Is that possible?
I already tried and it didn't worked..
thank you in advanced for any help!
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No answer yet? Where are root experts?
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Why temp root? It's really easy permrooting it...
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dexter93 said:
Why temp root? It's really easy permrooting it...
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thank you for the answer
if i pemanent root my device before i take a initial backup of my current factory rom i would not be able to restore it whenever i want to give my phone for service.
I will have to download one from a site. But i want to use again my own one.

You could just grab one of the ruus that are on shipped-roms.com that contains your current rom. It's a pity to have such a good device and not root it... You lose functionality.... Also you can't flash custom roms.... Our devs are by far better than htc's
Think that people even s-off and send their phone in for service (after returning it to perfect factory condition via ruu).
Sent from my HTC Desire

dexter93 said:
You could just grab one of the ruus that are on shipped-roms.com that contains your current rom. It's a pity to have such a good device and not root it... You lose functionality.... Also you can't flash custom roms.... Our devs are by far better than htc's
Think that people even s-off and send their phone in for service (after returning it to perfect factory condition via ruu).
Sent from my HTC Desire
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I am confused
What is ruu?
And s-off?
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RUU stands for ROM update utility. It's an upgrade pack from htc. It contains ROM, radio, bootloader and recovery(in other words all the software bits required for your phone to run) to "update" your phone. These are all factory ones that are released from htc to help users upgrade their phones to the latest official software. Their components are found also on the OTA updates. We use them after when we want to return the phone to factory default state after we have flashed custom versions of any of the above, in order to return for service. S-on/off indicates a security status set by HTC. S-on is the standard for retail phones and it means that the /system and /data are not writable when the phone is operating. In that case we use tools like adb to do so , through pc. S-off disables this security measure allowing further customization of the device. It is also said that root+s-off = ultimate root, because then the phone is fully accessible and customizable
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dexter93 said:
You could just grab one of the ruus that are on shipped-roms.com that contains your current rom. It's a pity to have such a good device and not root it... You lose functionality.... Also you can't flash custom roms.... Our devs are by far better than htc's
Think that people even s-off and send their phone in for service (after returning it to perfect factory condition via ruu).
Sent from my HTC Desire
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hello again
thank you for the answer
should i trust the ruu from this site shipped-roms.com? do we know that is the factory one?
and which one is for my hct desire? in this site there are more than one ruu for my device. how do i know which one is for my device?
And a final question
What will be the profit of making my device root? would i be able to have more software?
thank you in advanced for any help

The ruus on shipped-roms are the factory ones and are tested. There are many roms, because there are many updates, and because some of them are branded, which means that they are specifically designed for a specific carrier. Usually what you need is the latest WWE RUU. When rooted you can use some extra apps, and flash custom roms(and recoveries/radios too)
Sent from my HTC Desire

dexter93 said:
The ruus on shipped-roms are the factory ones and are tested. There are many roms, because there are many updates, and because some of them are branded, which means that they are specifically designed for a specific carrier. Usually what you need is the latest WWE RUU. When rooted you can use some extra apps, and flash custom roms(and recoveries/radios too)
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thank you again for the help
if i root my phone what is the normal process that i should take? the steps or the guide i mean.
after my phone is rooted, what other ruu should i install to my phone?
i would like to test sense 3.0 and the new version of android.
is that possible??
and of cousre to be able to have many software in my card...

emm_stra said:
thank you again for the help
if i root my phone what is the normal process that i should take? the steps or the guide i mean.
after my phone is rooted, what other ruu should i install to my phone?
i would like to test sense 3.0 and the new version of android.
is that possible??
and of cousre to be able to have many software in my card...
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There are full tutorials in the desire development sub forum. The latest ruu is the one that came to you over the air and its froyo with standard sense. You don't need to install any ruu, as long as you don't want to send it in for service. If you want to try sense 3(its still im beta phase) you can try one of the custom roms found in the desire index thread(in the development subforum). You must first become familiar with these terms: adb, fastboot, ext, a2sd, a2sd+,data2sd/ext/whatever, hboot, root, s-off, alpharev, partition,recovery,wipe, backup,flash,dalvik cache,RUU, usb brick, rosie,apk, updater-script, update.zip, radio, ril,amend, edify, data++, amonRA, clockworkmod, AOSP, MIUI and others, but there are enough to bring you in the world of Android on Desire. Be patient and search for each and every one of these.... Everything has been explained on the forums and the tuts in great detail. Dont be afraid to use Google search, or the xda one
Sent from my HTC Desire

[Q] Rooting 2.3.3 "official" with Revolutionary

Hi,
I'm thinking of switching to a new phone, even though I love the Desire for everything except the fact I have no space for apps!
So rooting may be my only option to keep the phone. As I have 2.3.3 "official" ROM I'm stuck using the Revolutionary method.
So, they ask for my serial number? What are the consequences of giving it to them? Can they try and register my phone elsewhere, gain access, etc. etc.
I'm happy with the process and I've done similar on an HTC Diamond years ago. I just want to feel comfortable that my serial number can't be used for no good.
Cheers,
Brisnick

red the documentation: http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
then you know why they need your serial
The official ROM CANNOT be rootet, but you can flash a custom ROM based on the stock 2.3.3 HTC ROM

Thanks for that, much appreciated.
I guess what I am asking is are they storing my serial number anywhere and what can they use it for once they have it (or it leaks or something.)
i.e. If you gave me the serial number of your Desire, what dastardly things could I use it for if I wanted to?
Can I use it to spoof things, etc.
Cheers,
Brisnick

brisnick said:
Thanks for that, much appreciated.
I guess what I am asking is are they storing my serial number anywhere and what can they use it for once they have it (or it leaks or something.)
i.e. If you gave me the serial number of your Desire, what dastardly things could I use it for if I wanted to?
Can I use it to spoof things, etc.
Cheers,
Brisnick
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They only use your data to generate a unique code to get S-OFF. Once S-OFF, you can flash the zip to root your device. After that you can decide whether to flash a new Hboot, or only a ROM.
No phishing and stuff, it's safe.
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loler90 said:
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The official ROM CANNOT be rootet, but you can flash a custom ROM based on the stock 2.3.3 HTC ROM
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That's so wrong, falser it cannot be.
The official gingerbread rom by HTC upgrades hboot to version 1.02.0001 which is completely supported by revolutionary. And with revolutionary you get S-OFF in the first step and in the second root by flashing the superuser.zip from their website.

Had the same problem (also desire with original 2.3.3.) I rooted the revolutionary way and had no problems. Then use " link2sd" app. Works great!
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this was the exact reason why i changed roms.
i´m now running a sense 3.5 rom with an ext 4 partition.
Now I have 1,3gig of internal space.
that solved my problem

Paranoia , you can trust them they are safe!