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Hey Guys,
im getting a Desire through Telstra tonight, and the first thing i want to do is debrand the thing.
I have read up on some things but still a little confused, can someone point me in the right direction, of 1 how to unlock the phone, root it and the best ROM to install on it.
Much Appreciated
Ok i think i know what im doing now.
One thing though, i just want a normal rom to put on it, just debranded, can anyone recommend me something?
I dont really want custom roms etc
Look in the sticky in rom section, shows the stock roms available. Then you can upgrade to stock 2.2
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Ok so if i use this rom
RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4. 06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe
Which are not rooted do i still need to root the device etc or can i just use this rom and it will update and remove the telstra stuff?
And is this the latest normal 2.2 Rom?
You need to root to debrand, then put the stock Rom on
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Ok no worries ill do that, but is the rom i posted the correct Stock 2.2 Rom i would use in AUS? for the Desire?
Just remember having a goldcard always inserted, while debranding and OTA updating.
I was gunna do this method, no goldcard needed.
http://myhtcdesire.com/modding/how-to-root-your-desire-easily-method-2
But do i only have to have the goldcard inserted while updating and rooting, then i can remove it?
Widge86 said:
I was gunna do this method, no goldcard needed.
http://myhtcdesire.com/modding/how-to-root-your-desire-easily-method-2
But do i only have to have the goldcard inserted while updating and rooting, then i can remove it?
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HI there,
I used the unrevoked method and this provides "root" and ClockworkMod Recovery. I then initially downloaded [ROM-FroYo] Official Froyo HTC Sense ROM (16/07 v1.0c | OpenDesire Team) link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726300
The above rom is very much like the standard HTC sense ROM but without the Tel$tra bloatware. Have a good search on xda though as there have been a number of roms (sense like) been released since this one.
I have since moved on to [ROM-FROYO AOSP] OpenDesire v3.6.1 (720P | 2.6.34.5 SVS KERNEL | 1305mhz) (26/08). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712615
This rom is a "vanilla" (plain) version of the android OS and is half the size of the sense ROM, and is clean and fast, but you lose the "sense" interface and the HTC FM radio.
Everything else camera, wi-fi, GPS, phone, etc works perfectly from me.
BTW, all this is on a Tel$ta Desire (A8183) that is 3 months old. I have had no probs at all.
Hope this helps
Thats awesome info great so ill use the guide i posted to Root the device then i can install any ROM i wont, i think ill use the original 2.2 Rom that i posted earlier in the thread
to confirm even if i want to use a stock HTC RUU rom from the Stock Rom page i still have to Root my device?
Widge86 said:
to confirm even if i want to use a stock HTC RUU rom from the Stock Rom page i still have to Root my device?
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It would be pointless rooting before applying an RUU, as it's not necessary and the flash process will remove root anyway.
That RUU you pointed to will break a Desire with an SLCD screen, so be warned.
Ok so i should just use a hacked rom thats based on the normal one, how do i find out if the phone i have is SLCD?
You can still use an official ROM. Read this for lots of info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749551
WOW now im even more confused i used to be able to hack my old HTC Touch Pro easily lol.
Ok so i have to hope my Telstra delivered phone is still AMOLED, then i wont have any dramas, to be honest im not much into running a custom rom, id rather just get rid of the telstra crap thats going to be on the phone, but i also do not want to brick it or break the screen in the process.
So if i just use one of the RUU updates in your post you linked me too it doesnt matter if its AMOLED or SLCD i can update to it without rooting?
Ill get the phone first work out if i have SLCD or not, then go from there.
I wont Froyo on my phone and no telstra stuff so i can make a goldcard and update, or if i have a AMOLED phone use the Rooting tool and update to any rooted ROM correct?
You can debrand on any type of screen using the correct RUU. You can root both types too.
If you root you cannot run an official ROM, but you can run something almost exactly the same.
Which Froyo Rom (rooted) would be the closest to stock?
To Confirm if i have an AMOLED phone i can just update a Stock Non Branded ROM without rooting? By placing the update.zip on the phone and updating using recovery mode?
Widge86 said:
Which Froyo Rom (rooted) would be the closest to stock?
To Confirm if i have an AMOLED phone i can just update a Stock Non Branded ROM without rooting? By placing the update.zip on the phone and updating using recovery mode?
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hi widge
just go with the flow, unbrand it, root it and play with all the roms, your gonna love it. try em all and see what u like best. I am on nextsense rom 7 at the mo and waiting for the kitchen to open again so i can do some cooking. Tried opendesire a while back and it was pretty mint, may take a lokk at it again myself.
You can't switch to an unbranded rom by using update.zip files, you use an RUU to flash the phone, which requires a goldcard.
To install custom roms you root and install them as zip files in recovery.
You can do both on an SLCD or AMOLED screen, but with an SLCD screen you have to be more careful which RUU you use.
Ok so i am pretty confused, i have rooted my phone. But not got S-OFF because of it being pvt4. Does this mean i cant flash a custom ROM?
I really wanna flash this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829734
Also, is it essential i have to make a goldcard?
HTC Desire 2.2 (Rooted) On TMOBILE UK with PVT4 and HBOOT 0.93
SeanBond said:
Ok so i am pretty confused, i have rooted my phone. But not got S-OFF because of it being pvt4. Does this mean i cant flash a custom ROM?
I really wanna flash this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829734
Also, is it essential i have to make a goldcard?
HTC Desire 2.2 (Rooted) On TMOBILE UK with PVT4 and HBOOT 0.93
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Is your device PVT4 old (20000) or PVT4 new (40000)?
Read this thread to find out how to check this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853583
You shouldn't have any problems rooting and flashing custom ROMs if your device has a PVT4 20000 erasesize. Use unrEVOked v3.22, safe and best successful method so far.
If your PVT4 has an erasesize of 40000, then i know of only of certain number of ROMs that have been confirmed to work with this type of device - Oxygen, LeeDroid's, ReflexTSenseHD, and MIUI.
You should not have a problem flashing any of these custom ROMs with the modified CWM-AlphaRev Recovery 2.5.1.3, which you must install with unrEVOked if your phone has an erasesize of 40000
As you were originally branded to T-Mobile, you will need to create a Gold Card only if you want to revert back to your original stock ROM (i.e. later on for warranty reasons). You should be able to find your original RUU by searching shipped-roms.com.
Thanks for the detailed reply!
I dont really care about the warrenty thing etc, and i could always do that later i guess.
Ill have a check now on what it is.
So will apps2sd still work etc?
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Ok, i have checked and i have 2000! YUPPEEEE!
I have already rooted with unrEVOked, does this mean that i need to again? i also have clockwork
A2SD+/Data2SD will work fine for you and since you are already rooted, you will not need to re-root or reinstall clockwork either. Flash away in confidence
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Awesome, do i need to make a partition to do a2sd? and does it matter i dont have S-OFF?
Cheers for the help man
Yes you will need to, all custom roms require this prerequisite really. You can use Rom Manager to achieve this, it allows you to create up to an SD-EXT size of 512 MB for dedicated app data space. If you require a bigger EXT partition use AmonRa and flash with unrevoked, or use GParted - there are plenty guides on the forum on how to do this.
Yes, you dont need s-off, unless you want full root access to your phone.
Edit: sorry for the delay in replying... still trying to get use to swype.
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Not too bothered about full root tbh, aslong as i have a2sd.
Cheers for the help mate
Then you are good to go after you make your ext partition
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Just backing up my SD card now, the only thing i will miss is the sence clock
I don't use that clock anymore, nor do I use sense UI... I'm a fully fledged miui convert
If you want the sense clock, search the marketplace for 'sense clock widget', there are many variations - customisable too
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Yeah ill have a look, i might look at some other options too.
I <3 the clock though, its actually one of the reasons i got an HTC lol
SeanBond said:
Yeah ill have a look, i might look at some other options too.
I <3 the clock though, its actually one of the reasons i got an HTC lol
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Well if that's your thing then by all means, go for it
I totally understand where you are coming from though... I used to love sense ui and everything it had to offer but once I tried miui, I was amazed at how good it actually was/is, running out of superlatives for it
You could also give the DHD roms a go (ported from Desire HD), as they include the cool new sense features.
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Sorry for hijacking the thread, I've read the discussion so far but I have a question, it seems SeanBond did not debrand b4 rooting and went ahead to install a custom rom. Pls can I do same as I'm presently using a O2 branded phone, do advise me
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scorror said:
Sorry for hijacking the thread, I've read the discussion so far but I have a question, it seems SeanBond did not debrand b4 rooting and went ahead to install a custom rom. Pls can I do same as I'm presently using a O2 branded phone, do advise me
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No need to apologise and its good that you are making the effort to ask before a mistake is made, so i appreciate that.
He did debrand by using unrEVOked - it does not require you to use a Gold Card for it and provides you with root access (software root) to the phone. Only when you want to return to stock rom, you then you will need to create and use a Gold Card before running the appropriate RUU. If you want to create a Gold Card, use the one in my sig below.
Thanks. Do I need to create a gold card first b4 installing a custom rom or when I want to return to stock. Or if I'm on custom rom it's possible to still create a gold card thereafter
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Yeah i didnt make a goldcard.
Was pretty easy, flashed right from ROM manager.
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Thanks. Do I need to create a gold card first b4 installing a custom rom or when I want to return to stock. Or if I'm on custom rom it's possible to still create a gold card thereafter
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You have two options here.
If you are branded and want to root in order to install a custom ROM, then you either create a Gold Card to unlock the phone's CID, just use unrEVOked, which does not require the creation of a Gold Card and provides you with root access to your phone, thus allowing you to flash custom roms, custom kernels, and custom radios. I don't know the full workings of unrEVOked, but it bypassed your phones CID lock feature and does not require you to create a Gold Card.
You only need to create a Gold Card if you want to return to stock rom as you were originally network branded.
How do they know? there is nothing visual that shows its branded?
SeanBond said:
How do they know? there is nothing visual that shows its branded?
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Software branding, for instance, when you boot the phone, it will show your network carrier splashscreen, like T-Mobile, or 02, or Orange. Also, their own icons will also be visible on the homescreen, for example.
Okay so ive just bought a HTC Desire, after owning an Xperia X10, i was just wondering is it possible to root the Desire without unlocking the bootloader, I want to keep the HTC Sense UI, but be able to install things like setCPU and Titanium Backup Pro
Regards
Vengeance
Or course. But I recommend a custom rom, like leedroid for example(with htc sense )
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Yes, don't need to unlock anything. Just download unrEVOked and away you go!
Don't worry about S-OFF (although people will tel you to do it) - it's not needed if that's all you want to do
HOWEVER, if you're the Orange ROM there will be no way of removing root and going back to 100% stock as sent by Orange if you root. Something to be mindful of
Its an unlocked device, thanks guys appreciate the help
Regards
Vengeance
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What software version is it running on at present? go to Settings>About phone>Software information and post up the software version
i know its running 2.2 but thats it as it hasnt been delivered yet
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Ah right! Well, as soon as you get it post up the information before you do anything else - best be certain on what you currently have before continuing
you can use unrevoked, and it will just root the phone for you.
You will still have the stock sense rom running, but it will be rooted allowing you to install apps which require a device to be rooted
woqii said:
you can use unrevoked, and it will just root the phone for you.
You will still have the stock sense rom running, but it will be rooted allowing you to install apps which require a device to be rooted
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Which has already been stated. I'm just trying to find out more info to allow the OP to make the best decision they can
EddyOS said:
Yes, don't need to unlock anything. Just download unrEVOked and away you go!
Don't worry about S-OFF (although people will tel you to do it) - it's not needed if that's all you want to do
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Eddy you used to S-ON. What benefits are you getting from S-OFF??
Nothing, did it for the hell of it!!
Only thing I've found useful is I can replace the splash screen with one of my own, and it now means AdFree is working as I can't work out how to edit the script to link the hosts file to the SD card yet in my own ROM!
So my desire got delivered today,
Software information
android version
2.2
Baseband version
32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14
Kernal Version
2.6.32.15-g5d39305
[email protected] #1
Build number
2.25.771.1 CL254759 release-keys
Software Number
2.25.771.1
Browser version
Webkit 3.1
regards
I thought the Orange product code was x.xx.61.x?? Does it have Orange branding on it??
EDIT: Orange version is 2.17.61.2, I think you've got the Virgin version
EDIT EDIT: You've got the 3 UK ROM so I take it you're not on Orange
You're in luck! Get this and keep it safe:
http://www.multiupload.com/J230M5J8UD
It's the stock 3UK FroYo RUU
Then go and root it and have fun!!
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Eddy you used to S-ON. What benefits are you getting from S-OFF??
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S-off can also be used to alter the partition tables in order the get more space on /data which is where you're apps are stored.
I'm running Oxygen 2.0 with the Oxygen HBoot table and once I flashed the Oxygen table my free space on the phone went from 80MB free to over 300MB so that's why I went S-off. But make sure you know what you're doing first. If something goes wrong when you're attempting to S-off of flash a new partition table it will brick your phone.
I prefer to use A2SD+ - got 1.5GB partition so plenty of space
(Not that I actually much space - just like to know it's there)
That works too. I prefer it stored on my phone. A bit easier for me to set up and I find it runs faster with it not having to access the SD.
True, might look into that but I still use Sense - we'll see...
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I thought the Orange product code was x.xx.61.x?? Does it have Orange branding on it??
EDIT: Orange version is 2.17.61.2, I think you've got the Virgin version
EDIT EDIT: You've got the 3 UK ROM so I take it you're not on Orange
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orginally it was but it was unlocked by 3 so i use it on orange
Okay how do i go about debranding my phone does unrevoked do that?
regards
Hi,
I've been doing some research on how to successfully flash my phone and put a custom rom on it. I have a Desire HD running 2.2. This is shown in the bootloader:
ACE PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.85.0007
Radio-26.03.02.26_M
And from About Phone, I got this:
Software number 1.37.771.3
Now from what I've learnt, I need to downgrade to a earlier version of the software, to 1.32. I looked online, and found that some people said if you used a specific way to turn security off, then certain things won't work.
On looking at some of the threads, some linked to this to turn it off:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
However, is this the best way to do it. I was going to use this webpage:
http://igyaan.in/2011/01/how-to-root-htc-desire-hd-included-downgrade-from-1-72-405-3-to-1-32/
However, when looking oat the CyanogenMod wiki page for the HTC Desire HD (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Desire_HD:_Rooting), they was advising you not to use Visionary (Which the other guide does advise) and use BusyBox, Superuser and Temporary Root.
So, could someone please help. As I'm getting different advise all over.
Thanks
Use the guides here in XDA. You will get the best support. Places like igyaan.in just copy our guides. So your first step is that radio s-off tool.
jkoljo said:
Use the guides here in XDA. You will get the best support. Places like igyaan.in just copy our guides. So your first step is that radio s-off tool.
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Thanks. On the tool, it says it needs:
It will not work on 1.72.405.3 or higher build, or new radio (12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M is ok). Downgrade first!!
So as my software number is 1.37.771.3, should that work? My baseband version however is 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M, which while it says is ok, my baseband version has the letter U just after 140e, so what do I do.
Sorry if this has been answered multiple times before.
Of course it is ok, 1.37 is not 1.72 or higher than it. Use some logic, mate
What about the baseband version though? I understand it's nearly the same version, but as it has another letter in the version name, I thought I'd ask before I go ahead or not.
baseband is completely independent from the Rom. There are only those that go "well" toghether and some that dont. But its different for everyone... so. Yeah, most rom cookers give you a recommendation on RadioRom (=Baseband). I'd go with that first. But you can do the Baseband changing stuff later.
That baseband is ok for the tool.
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Hi, I tried using your tool. However on Visionary, I tried to temproot, then it restarted the HTC Sense launcher, then I relaunched Visionary and tried to attempt permroot, but it said I had to have a temproot first.
Any help? Thanks
Try temprooting again. It might take a few tries.
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hello
i am new in rooting stuff.
i want to use visionary+ to temp root my device
it worked fine.
Now i want to use ROM manager to backup my current rom without being permanent root. I want to do it using temp root.
Is that possible?
I already tried and it didn't worked..
thank you in advanced for any help!
emm_stra said:
hello
i am new in rooting stuff.
i want to use visionary+ to temp root my device
it worked fine.
Now i want to use ROM manager to backup my current rom without being permanent root. I want to do it using temp root.
Is that possible?
I already tried and it didn't worked..
thank you in advanced for any help!
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No answer yet? Where are root experts?
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Why temp root? It's really easy permrooting it...
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dexter93 said:
Why temp root? It's really easy permrooting it...
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thank you for the answer
if i pemanent root my device before i take a initial backup of my current factory rom i would not be able to restore it whenever i want to give my phone for service.
I will have to download one from a site. But i want to use again my own one.
You could just grab one of the ruus that are on shipped-roms.com that contains your current rom. It's a pity to have such a good device and not root it... You lose functionality.... Also you can't flash custom roms.... Our devs are by far better than htc's
Think that people even s-off and send their phone in for service (after returning it to perfect factory condition via ruu).
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dexter93 said:
You could just grab one of the ruus that are on shipped-roms.com that contains your current rom. It's a pity to have such a good device and not root it... You lose functionality.... Also you can't flash custom roms.... Our devs are by far better than htc's
Think that people even s-off and send their phone in for service (after returning it to perfect factory condition via ruu).
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I am confused
What is ruu?
And s-off?
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RUU stands for ROM update utility. It's an upgrade pack from htc. It contains ROM, radio, bootloader and recovery(in other words all the software bits required for your phone to run) to "update" your phone. These are all factory ones that are released from htc to help users upgrade their phones to the latest official software. Their components are found also on the OTA updates. We use them after when we want to return the phone to factory default state after we have flashed custom versions of any of the above, in order to return for service. S-on/off indicates a security status set by HTC. S-on is the standard for retail phones and it means that the /system and /data are not writable when the phone is operating. In that case we use tools like adb to do so , through pc. S-off disables this security measure allowing further customization of the device. It is also said that root+s-off = ultimate root, because then the phone is fully accessible and customizable
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dexter93 said:
You could just grab one of the ruus that are on shipped-roms.com that contains your current rom. It's a pity to have such a good device and not root it... You lose functionality.... Also you can't flash custom roms.... Our devs are by far better than htc's
Think that people even s-off and send their phone in for service (after returning it to perfect factory condition via ruu).
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hello again
thank you for the answer
should i trust the ruu from this site shipped-roms.com? do we know that is the factory one?
and which one is for my hct desire? in this site there are more than one ruu for my device. how do i know which one is for my device?
And a final question
What will be the profit of making my device root? would i be able to have more software?
thank you in advanced for any help
The ruus on shipped-roms are the factory ones and are tested. There are many roms, because there are many updates, and because some of them are branded, which means that they are specifically designed for a specific carrier. Usually what you need is the latest WWE RUU. When rooted you can use some extra apps, and flash custom roms(and recoveries/radios too)
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dexter93 said:
The ruus on shipped-roms are the factory ones and are tested. There are many roms, because there are many updates, and because some of them are branded, which means that they are specifically designed for a specific carrier. Usually what you need is the latest WWE RUU. When rooted you can use some extra apps, and flash custom roms(and recoveries/radios too)
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thank you again for the help
if i root my phone what is the normal process that i should take? the steps or the guide i mean.
after my phone is rooted, what other ruu should i install to my phone?
i would like to test sense 3.0 and the new version of android.
is that possible??
and of cousre to be able to have many software in my card...
emm_stra said:
thank you again for the help
if i root my phone what is the normal process that i should take? the steps or the guide i mean.
after my phone is rooted, what other ruu should i install to my phone?
i would like to test sense 3.0 and the new version of android.
is that possible??
and of cousre to be able to have many software in my card...
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There are full tutorials in the desire development sub forum. The latest ruu is the one that came to you over the air and its froyo with standard sense. You don't need to install any ruu, as long as you don't want to send it in for service. If you want to try sense 3(its still im beta phase) you can try one of the custom roms found in the desire index thread(in the development subforum). You must first become familiar with these terms: adb, fastboot, ext, a2sd, a2sd+,data2sd/ext/whatever, hboot, root, s-off, alpharev, partition,recovery,wipe, backup,flash,dalvik cache,RUU, usb brick, rosie,apk, updater-script, update.zip, radio, ril,amend, edify, data++, amonRA, clockworkmod, AOSP, MIUI and others, but there are enough to bring you in the world of Android on Desire. Be patient and search for each and every one of these.... Everything has been explained on the forums and the tuts in great detail. Dont be afraid to use Google search, or the xda one
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