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[Q] newbie having rom update issues

Hi guys,
I have recently swapped my iphone 3gs for the htc desire, it was modifiied by previous owner;
hroot
s off
redux v1.6 with 2.3.1 gingerbread (he tells me)
ok
so I have decided that I like the HTC sense type apps that this rom doesn't have, I cannot use htc sync with this rom, (it works with my mrs wildfire and kids legend) (stock).
I have downloaded numerous roms from here, and using the rom manager and or clockwork mod, have attempted (unsuccessfully) to load new roms.
luckily I backed up and can restore to this rom without any probs, however i really want this to work( 3 evenings so far)
all the videos i have seen re updating roms, use htc sync, this is the only step i miss because it will not connect to this phone, is there another way?
I cannot unroot either, same issue no htc sync
Can anyone advise how i sould proceed with this?
TX in advance
Col

To find out the specific rom your phone is running go to Settings > About Phone
Can you elaborate on why you can't install other roms?

Tx for looking,
phone shows android version 2.3.2
kernel version 2.6.37
mod version is redux v1.0.0 rc 6
i just keep getting fails on the rom installs, different roms fail at different lines and it aborts install
Col

Ask your friend what HBOOT setup he has- I do not have S-OFF myself, but I know that if he installs a different table with a smaller partition, there may not be enough room for you to install a rom under than those that fit.
If that's the case, install a different setup, and you should be good to go.

Tx again,
I traded this phone for my iphone 3gs, i wont see that guy again lol...
i just checked the hboot on my phone
alpha rev oxygen
bravo ptv1
hboot-0.93.1000
microp-031d
touch panel synt0101
radio 5.09.05.30_2
aug 10 2010 1752
Any help how to install a new setup would be great, keep in mind i cant use the htc sync
Col

fyi I just installed oxygen 2.0 rc7 successfully (wow) first one lol
so is the oxygen launcher different to ruu ?
Col

You're using the Oxygen HBOOT so you can only install ROM small enough to fit on the internal memory of that HBOOT. If you wanna try a Sense ROM you'll have to either use an RUU to go back to 100% stock or change the HBOOT back to a Sense one to allow it to fit

EddyOS said:
You're using the Oxygen HBOOT so you can only install ROM small enough to fit on the internal memory of that HBOOT. If you wanna try a Sense ROM you'll have to either use an RUU to go back to 100% stock or change the HBOOT back to a Sense one to allow it to fit
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Tx again guys, that explains some things, is the sense a launcher like hboot or a ruu/rom
again can i update without htc sync?
Col

You're confused about what a launcher is. The only thing you need to know is that your HBOOT can only accomodate a ROM of a certain size, that is why you haven't been able to install other ROMS. Search in the development thread about AlphaRev and HBOOT, and get a new HBOOT layout.

tyvm
i have looked a number of methods described here but they require connection to pc, as i said i cannot htc with this rom?
every pb99img ends up withincorrect model
i now have oxygen 2 hboot 93
any simple guides for newbies?
Tx
Col

doggy117 said:
tyvm
i have looked a number of methods described here but they require connection to pc, as i said i cannot htc with this rom?
every pb99img ends up withincorrect model
i now have oxygen 2 hboot 93
any simple guides for newbies?
Tx
Col
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You will have to flash a new hboot using fastboot commands. To do this you will have to have htc sync installed on your pc (it doesnt actually have to sync with your phone) and you will need the android sdk installed on your pc. Just google abit ... otherwise you can go here: http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing.html just follow step 1 and 2.
Once the drivers have been correctly installed you can enter bootloader>fastboot connect your phone to your pc and flash a new hboot layout to your phone!
The alpharev site explains this process: http://alpharev.nl/

Desire root question ?

Hi,
soon, I will get my ordered HTC Desire from Amazon Germany. Hope it's not a Desire with Hboot Version > 0.92. Amazon descriped it as an Android 2.1 version. Is it possible that Android 2.1 comes with a non rootable bootloader > 0.93, worst case version 1.06 ?
For example. Hope I will get a Desire with a 0.92 Hboot and root it successfully, what will happen when the phone is rebooting. Is it updating automatically to Android 2.2 after it get connected and maybe lost the root access. Have read about this in some boards.
I think I have to flash a custom rom after rooting the device before I go online? Maybe these questions are stupid but I need to know the right steps to get the full potential out of my new phone.
Which custom rom is preferable? LeeDrOiD V3.0.2, CyanogenMod-7 ..?
Thank you in advance
shredman

Sup Shredman
I got a Desire with HBOOT 0.93, I can assure you it is completely rootable, I rooted with unrEVOked and the 1st ROM I tried was StarBurst, very awesome ROM.
I assume you want a gingerbread ROM, thus your asking for a deciding factor between CyanogenMod7 Or LeeDrOid 3.0.2, my advice is this if you like Sense UI, LeeDrOid if you don’t CyanogenMod7.
Check out Desire Android Development and check out the other options available.
Hope This Helps

1.06? Where did that come from? As far as I'm aware at least the bootloader only goes up to 0.93.1 which is prob rootable and S-Offable. If you do have a stupid bootloader, just use an RUU then root but I doubt you will have to worry about it. You will be fine. All you need to do is you can update from Eclair to Froyo and then root, it does not matter at all. Also, when I got my phone with Eclair, it came with bootloader 0.80.
You are worrying for no reason. All you need is to just download Unrevoked, the lastest one (if that doesn't work get the previous version). Don't forget the drivers either if your on Windows

1.06 bootloaders are only on CDMA Desires, not GSM. So far, all GSM Desires are rootable.

Is there a way to root with a 1.06 bootloader?
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Not yet. Follow Unrevoked's site, they'll put up an update if possible.

seclm193 said:
Is there a way to root with a 1.06 bootloader?
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That's my fear that I could get a Desire Phone from the stock that has this 1.06 bootloader. I read about it in some other forums that Desires are delivered with this newer bootloader, maybe htc did that to prevent (for a while) such rooting and flashing custom roms?
My Desire is on way now, hope I will get a rootable device tomorrow. As far as I know, I need to do the following
1. Unrevoke the Desire with linux or windows. I use linux.
2. Load a custom rom
How can I backup the entire image that comes out of the box before I start to root the desire ?
Regards
frank alias shredman

shredman said:
That's my fear that I could get a Desire Phone from the stock that has this 1.06 bootloader. I read about it in some other forums that Desires are delivered with this newer bootloader, maybe htc did that to prevent (for a while) such rooting and flashing custom roms?
My Desire is on way now, hope I will get a rootable device tomorrow. As far as I know, I need to do the following
1. Unrevoke the Desire with linux or windows. I use linux.
2. Load a custom rom
How can I backup the entire image that comes out of the box before I start to root the desire ?
Regards
frank alias shredman
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You don't need to worry to receive CMDA Desire with 1.06 unless you are from the USA If you are from Europe you should deffinitely be ok
And you don't need to backup too, you can later flash official RUUs, the original Desire firmware...you can however use the nandroid backup once you root your phone, to backup your current rom if you deceide to test a new one

I'm relieved to hear that. I've only one question about the roms. I want to flash a fast and stable rom that don't need app2sd to move application to the sd card. I think it's integrated in rom version > 2.1 (froyo) ?
Regards
Frank

cyanogen cm7
but im with rcmixs v07.

shredman said:
I'm relieved to hear that. I've only one question about the roms. I want to flash a fast and stable rom that don't need app2sd to move application to the sd card. I think it's integrated in rom version > 2.1 (froyo) ?
Regards
Frank
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IMO, you shouldn't even be thinking about rooting until you know what you're doing. Sounds like you don't know a lot about Android at present so read a lot and ONLY ASK QUESTIONS IF YOU CAN'T FIND AN ANSWER. Chances are everything you will need to ask has already been answered
Just enjoy the phone first and worry about the rest later

Help, the phone is now in bootloop ???
What a damn ****. Got my phone, rooted it with linux and the first problem is that nandroid backup is not starting. I startet it manual, then backup the phone and now it wont start anymore. The phone is in a boot loop. What a fu...
Here the data of my desire.
Bravo PVT4 Ship S-On
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
Touch Panel-SYNW0101
RADIO-5.11.05.27
AUG 10 2010
I believe that I got one from this new hardware revision that is not rootable. I'm really pissed of now, what can I do. I don't know how I can recover it to shipped off version. Hope I can recover it to send it back. What is wrong with this thing?
Regards
Frank

I have the same HBoot and am rooted
You've not got full root or else it would be S-Off. Have you flashed a recovery? Easiest way to get a nandroid back up. Either AmonRa 2.0.1 or CWM 2.5.1.8 (I think, other earlier version don't work with your HBoot, and stay away from 3.0.0.5 for now). Then you need to alpharev to get S-Off. Troll the forum you can find all this info, but you do have to go cautiously with this HBoot, only specific methods work imo.
AmonRa 2.0.1 | PVT4 40000 S-Off Alpharev 1.8| HBoot 0.93.1000 | Radio 5.17.05.08 | LeeDroid 3.0.2 (A2SD) | HTC Desire A8181 | UOT Kitchen Mods

Hi ghalalb,
now, I successful restored the nandroid backup with the installed clockwork mod 2.5.0.7. Vol - and Powerbutton, switch to Recovery, then clockwork mod came up .. restore, reboot, ok.
The Desire is alive. Is it real rooted (or not ) ? Thats the question ? The supervisor icon is available. First, I saved the content from the original sd card with (clockwork mod an backups), then partitioned the card with gparted to 2,2 GB fat32, 1,5 ext4 and restored the content back to the fat32 partition.
What now ? Is it not possible to flash a custom rom like clock hd-v10 with the installed clockwork mod ? Do I need to change the clockwork mod with AmonRa 2.0.1 ? The nandroid backups are not compatible with the AmonRa tool !
If something goes wrong, a restore of the old clockwork mod backups is not possible. I don't know what I have to do now. I don't want to make a mistake that is not reversible.
Regards
Frank

Hi Frank
You seem to be confusing your self as you don’t really know much about what your getting your self into. If you root your device with unrEVOked it should by default install clockwork recovery, once this is installed you don’t need Amon RA as a recovery as clockwork does the same thing and it is merely a matter of preference. Clockwork recovery backups cant be restored with Amon RA and vice versa. I am using clockwork recovery and I flash a new ROM every 3 to 4 days just to try different things and to see which ROM does what I need it to do. I usually end up back on ReflexTSense as I feel this ROM suits my user needs.
You seem to be getting used to using recovery and flashing ROM’s, you can use clockwork to flash any ROM. You have partitioned your card correctly and for apps to SD so now all you need to do is flash a ROM.
I recommend you try AuraxTSense as a first ROM, its very stable and blazing fast.
After you download the ROM put it in the root of your SD, the root of you SD means, not in a folder just in the SD when you double click on the removeable disc/SD in my computer (don’t know what its called in linux) that is the root of the SD. Once that is does, reboot your device into recovery, make a nandroid backup of your current working ROM.
Then follow the steps
• Go to wipe data/factory reset – select using trackball and let it do its thing
• Go to install zip from sdcard – select using trackball
• Go to toggle signature verification – select using trackball – NOTE: on your screen it should say “Signature Check: Disabled – If its says enabled make sure it says Disabled
• Go to choose zip from sdcard – select using trackball
• Go to AuraxTSense – select using trackball
Now its going to install the ROM and once its done its going to bring you back to a screen that says “reboot system now” - select using trackball. Don’t worry about installing the latest radio as your phone came with it installed.
Your phone should reboot and the ROM will now install and this take 5 to 12 mins before its complete if not just be patient, you know it has been a success when you get the white hTC screen with the with the green hTC logo followed by a white hTC screen with green dots that says “hTC quietly brilliant” in black it will sit on that screen for a while and the screen will go dull. When it is done the screen with go bright and boot into Android.
I hope this helps you to get your 1st ROM installed and running, I’ll check back every now and again and post your progress as I am committing my self to help you through this.

i am also going to buy a Desire, i would like to root it. so any hboot or android version should i be aware of? what should i look out for?
i am new in android so pardon my noob question.

[Q] Should I s-off my phone?

I have a HTC Desire, (PVT4 SLCD, Erasesize 40000)
I have rooted my phone for almost 4 months. I already know a lot about flashing etc, but never researched s-off. It seems kind of risky to me, as i have the latest desire. Correct me if i'm wrong. I have a few questions.
1.Is it worth to s-off my device
2.If so why?
3.How big is the chance of bricking my phone
4.If i s-off which rom should i be on, as i saw that heavy sense 3.0 roms can make it difficult, AOSP like oxygen or just stock 2.2
Thanks in advance.

1. Yes
2. you can modify system files while booted, not just via ADB. Also you can change HBOOT partitions - so you can use the NAND memory efficiently.
3. If you follow all instructions for the procedure, then there is 1% chance of bricking it. just stick to the info/guide.
4. Some of those ROMs do have problems with s-off. I managed to S-OFF mine on insertcoin's Froyo data++ ROM (2.0.1). But literally most of the ROMs should work. I'd go with something lighter with - e.g. CM7/MIUI/Redux/GV/Oxygen

I'm going to try it today, i think..
Wish me luck

TopGear63z said:
I have a HTC Desire, (PVT4 SLCD, Erasesize 40000)
I have rooted my phone for almost 4 months. I already know a lot about flashing etc, but never researched s-off. It seems kind of risky to me, as i have the latest desire. Correct me if i'm wrong. I have a few questions.
1.Is it worth to s-off my device
2.If so why?
3.How big is the chance of bricking my phone
4.If i s-off which rom should i be on, as i saw that heavy sense 3.0 roms can make it difficult, AOSP like oxygen or just stock 2.2
Thanks in advance.
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re 4.
after you're done with S-OFF you can run your favourite ROM again, it is just that while you're doing this, you need a "simple ROM". what I did:
* nandroid backup (so you keep your favorite ROM, settings etc)
* flash pre-rooted stock ROM
* S-OFF your device
* nandroid restore (restore the backup you made before).
hope this helps.

With revolutionary one will get rooted and s-off in step.
Swyped from Oxygen with Transparent XDA App

You can follow this guide at http://wiki.rootzwiki.com/index.php/HTC_Desire for S-OFFing with Revolutionary. It's better detailed than Revolutionary's own wiki.
You may not have to do the Installing Superuser and su step if you're rooted already, mine stayed rooted when I S-OFF'd today.
Big advantage of S-OFFing is I could start using the Oxygen r2 HBOOT from Alpharev.nl site, making the system partition drastically smaller (250mb is wasted space for custom roms that aren't bloated Sense) that way I could use more of /Data for apps. It's apparently better for battery life not having apps load off the sdcard with the various apps2sd and dalvik2sd workarounds when using an sd-ext partition.
I did need to move fastboot.exe to the folder adb.exe is in in order to flash a new partition image (instructions on alpharev.nl; scroll down to "modified partition tables") as I got an error about AdbWinApi.dll being missing. They've changed things around in the Android SDK installer so adb.exe needs an additional download via SDK Manager.
p.s. Also I restored my backup of Sense before S-OFFing, just to be on the safe side, Alpharev.nl recommended this but the other guides made no mention of it. It was probably best as my current ROM, Oxygen, has apps2sd implemented and apparently this can interfere with the flashing process.

Another thing, i don't have time this week because of a wedding, but is it crucial to make a nandroid as i can't restore one(amonra 2.0.0), i'll try revolutionary when i do it.

[Q] Moving from a custom ROM to a stock ROM

Hi everyone !
I wanted for a while now to move to the stock ROM on my HTC Desire, and I looked a lot (like 2 weeks maybe more) into the forums but doubts remain so here I am. My question might sound a little bit stupid to you but I want to be sure before doing anything because I cannot afford to have a phone that does not work at the moment.
So, my phone is S-OFF, I am running the Runnymede AIO 5.0.3 ROM actually with this baseband 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27, and I have the 4ext Touch Recovery. I would like to use the RUU utility to move back to the stock RUU WWE 2.29.405.5 Radio 32.49.00.32U 5.11.05.27 so can I just do it normally by executing the RUU or should I perform any operation on the phone before proceding.
Thank you in advance for your answer.
Have a great day all !

Just save any data you might need becouse the RUU will trash everything but the SD.
To use the RUU you have to connect in HTC Sync mode.
You can also get the official Gingerbread HTC Desire Android 2.3 Upgrade from htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads .
I used that for a long time without problems.
Runnymede ROMs on Desire hardware aren't a good idea imho, you should have tried something like Cyanogenmod 7.1.

I tried Cyanogenmod for a while and I enjoyed it, but I kind of missed the HTC Layer which may be handy for linking contacts for instance, and I also like the HTC mail client since I use an ActiveSync mail account along with a gMail account.
Anyway thanks a lot for your quick answer.

c6nsor9d said:
Hi everyone !
I wanted for a while now to move to the stock ROM on my HTC Desire, and I looked a lot (like 2 weeks maybe more) into the forums but doubts remain so here I am. My question might sound a little bit stupid to you but I want to be sure before doing anything because I cannot afford to have a phone that does not work at the moment.
So, my phone is S-OFF, I am running the Runnymede AIO 5.0.3 ROM actually with this baseband 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27, and I have the 4ext Touch Recovery. I would like to use the RUU utility to move back to the stock RUU WWE 2.29.405.5 Radio 32.49.00.32U 5.11.05.27 so can I just do it normally by executing the RUU or should I perform any operation on the phone before proceding.
Thank you in advance for your answer.
Have a great day all !
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If I were u, I would backup my current rom first before using the RUU. Before running the RUU, make sure HTC Sync is installed and phone could detect it in your computer. (Use a goldcard if necessary when running the RUU. )

PreScoper said:
If I were u, I would backup my current rom first before using the RUU. Before running the RUU, make sure HTC Sync is installed and phone could detect it in your computer. (Use a goldcard if necessary when running the RUU. )
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Okay, I will do that ! Thank you for your reply.

Geegeeoh said:
I used that for a long time without problems.
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Now there's a wonder since it's an unfinished product
SwiftKeyed from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk.

The official "devs only" 2.3 it's not unfinished.
HTC couldn't push it out as a normal update becouse it has vary little room for apps... but aside from that it is as good as the 2.2.

If you're s-off, you may need to fastboot flash the downgrade.img from Alpharev to allow the hboot to be overridden by the ruu
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[Q] S-OFF on hboot 0.80

Hello
I've been asked by my dad to root his HTC Desire, to remove bloat and make it faster and last longer, etc etc.
But i've run into some problems. (Let me just say i'm not a complete noob at rooting, i've rooted Desire HD, EVO 3D and a Prime tablet before, and flashed roms etc etc)
I've successfully downgraded it from Android 2.2 with HBOOT 1.02 (i think thats the one) to Android 2.1 with HBOOT 0.80. And i've succesfully rooted it.
Now i want to S-OFF the device, but Revolutionary doesn't support the HBOOT 0.80, it requires 0.93 or 1.02.
I've also read about the AlphaRev S-OFF method, but thats super old and it even says to use Revolutionary.
My end plan is to install LeeDroid rom (My dad wants to keep HTC Sense, but want it fast, and LeeDroid was the best rom i could find for this, or is there something better?).
In LeeDroid it also says it needs to create a ext-3 partition with ROM Manager, but i can't even find ROM Manager on the market, is that because of the fact that i'm currently running android 2.1, or?
I hope some good people out here can help me with my problems
- Moon

Bump
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First off: Don't use "bump" posts after just 10 hours. This is not "Instant Help".
Alpharev may be old, but works fine.
Don't even think about using ROM Manager, it will break your phone. Create the ext partition with gparted.
I don't know about Sense Roms, but i think you can use just any. Depends on which version you prefer. Best for performance and battery life should be the lower ones, like LeeDroid.

muellersmattes said:
First off: Don't use "bump" posts after just 10 hours. This is not "Instant Help".
Alpharev may be old, but works fine.
Don't even think about using ROM Manager, it will break your phone. Create the ext partition with gparted.
I don't know about Sense Roms, but i think you can use just any. Depends on which version you prefer. Best for performance and battery life should be the lower ones, like LeeDroid.
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I quote everything.
I have S-OFFed my Desire with Alpharev and encountered no problem at all.

a) use alpharev
b) upgrade to 2.3 ruu and use revolutionary
c) rtfm made by Bortak
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Revolutionary would be the easiest option. A few clicks and your phone is rooted, S-off and has clockworkmod recovery.

Moonbloom said:
Now i want to S-OFF the device, but Revolutionary doesn't support the HBOOT 0.80, it requires 0.93 or 1.02.
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sj44k13 said:
Revolutionary would be the easiest option. A few clicks and your phone is rooted, S-off and has clockworkmod recovery.
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Really? Even OP knows this.....