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Pissed off at Sprint and HTC...they just ordered me a 4th EVO replacement...

They keep giving me "reconditioned" Evos. Basically, everything is new on it, except for the main board.
First Evo - Started to reboot on it's own. Sprint repair center ordered "reconditioned" Evo. Was on backorder, had to wait about 3-4 days.
Second Evo - USB charging issue along w/ light leak on the outsides of the screen. Ordered "reconditioned" Evo.
Third Evo - Hotspots on the screen as soon as I turned it on in the Sprint store. They tried to change out the screen, but it seems more like a main board issue since it did the same thing on the new screen. Told me they ordered another "reconditioned" Evo. It's on backorder again, so might be a week or two.
Yesterday morning I called up Sprint and *****ed at anyone that I could get on the phone. Told them I WANT a new phone...not a "new to me" phone, but a BRAND NEW phone. Told them I don't want to hear "I'm sorry" or "I understand your frustration" because it's quite apparent that they don't.
Finally getting it escalated to within corporate after threatening the CSR level employess (including their sups) that I've filed a complaint with BBB and have dispatched an email to corporate executives at the company. Funny how much they want to take care of you once you say that. Waiting on call back from someone at Corporate.
Had a ***** this morning tell me "Maybe it was a virus you keep downloading."....No *****, it's a HARDWARE issue. HTC QA dept. seems to have been taken off the lines and told to go to accounting so they can help them count their cash.
I got a call this morning from a senior manager (directly from my email) and the guy turned out to be a complete douche. He wasn't very interested in what I had to say. He just told me that he has to follow his procedure and that if my FOURTH one has an issue, we'll look at other options. I asked him if the other options includes a new phone and he said we'll cross that bridge when we get there. Completely douchebaggery out of this ahole's mouth. I asked him how he thought having a 4th phone in my hands within a 2-3 week time frame was acceptable. All he said was he understands
I'm honestly thinking of paying out the cancellation fees and running from Sprint at this point.

just be glad they are sending you replacement phones.

Oh God here we go again.
Leaving Sprint?! Do you seriously think AT&T, Verizon or T-mobile would have given you a new phone ? The truth is a reconditioned phone IS just as good as a new phone.
Anyway cool story bro.

zeuzinn said:
Oh God here we go again.
Leaving Sprint?! Do you seriously think AT&T, Verizon or T-mobile would have given you a new phone ? The truth is a reconditioned phone IS just as good as a new phone.
Anyway cool story bro.
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LOL...what?
Recondition means that the main board is reconditioned, the rest of the parts are new. I suppose light leak, hot spots, and USB charging issues are all acceptable to you.
Cool story bro...LOL.

faqlexi said:
LOL...what?
Recondition means that the main board is reconditioned, the rest of the parts are new. I suppose light leak, hot spots, and USB charging issues are all acceptable to you.
Cool story bro...LOL.
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like the other guy said, yes that sucks that u keep getting f***ed up phones but u really think the "other guys" will do u anymore favors than sprint already has? Think about it? If u have had this many replacement evos maybe u could ask them to get u a different replacement or swap for a shift...

Visionikz03 said:
like the other guy said, yes that sucks that u keep getting f***ed up phones but u really think the "other guys" will do u anymore favors than sprint already has? Think about it? If u have had this many replacement evos maybe u could ask them to get u a different replacement or swap for a shift...
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I do agree with that, however when I moved from my iPhone to the Evo, I never had such issues w/ Apple. I walked into the Apple store and always walked out as a happy customer. I just hated AT&T.
Now that the iPhone is coming to Verizon, I know I lose a lot from features point of view, but at least I know that customer service is behind me from Apple. You can hate Apple as much as you want, but you can't deny their customer service in their stores is 2nd to none.
Either way, I refuse any other phone from Sprint since I made the move because I wanted the Evo. I love the Evo, hence why I want a new one and get all this foolishness over with.

faqlexi said:
I suppose light leak, hot spots, and USB charging issues are all acceptable to you.
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Those are issues well known to be present on ALL EVOs, regardless if they are reconditioned or not. Sounds like you've had nothing but bad luck with build quality, And that is all.

faqlexi said:
I do agree with that, however when I moved from my iPhone to the Evo, I never had such issues w/ Apple. I walked into the Apple store and always walked out as a happy customer. I just hated AT&T.
Now that the iPhone is coming to Verizon, I know I lose a lot from features point of view, but at least I know that customer service is behind me from Apple. You can hate Apple as much as you want, but you can't deny their customer service in their stores is 2nd to none.
Either way, I refuse any other phone from Sprint since I made the move because I wanted the Evo. I love the Evo, hence why I want a new one and get all this foolishness over with.
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You're right about Apple. Last time I had an issue with a macbook (the HD was corrupt after a month of use) I brought it in and they were going to replace it but it was going to take a week or so. I needed my comp back for my school work (was in college) and they gave me a brand new macbook there and then. No questions asked.

I would recommend reading the book How to win Friends and Influence people.
If you want a brands new phone, the only way to get a brand new phone is to get the person you are talking to to WANT to give you a brand new phone. To do that, you need to learn what they WANT. As a CS rep, I want people to tell my boss how great I am and the company will fold without me. When I need something from someone I say this "Shiela, you are the only one that can help me here." explain the situation and tell her what I am looking for and end with "and please give me the name of your supervisor so I can contact them directly and let them know how you not only kept me as a customer, but made me completely satisfied. WHen I called I was angry at your company, and Shiela singlehandedly changed that.
Bottom line, you get WAY more bees with honey.

faqlexi said:
I do agree with that, however when I moved from my iPhone to the Evo, I never had such issues w/ Apple. I walked into the Apple store and always walked out as a happy customer. I just hated AT&T.
Now that the iPhone is coming to Verizon, I know I lose a lot from features point of view, but at least I know that customer service is behind me from Apple. You can hate Apple as much as you want, but you can't deny their customer service in their stores is 2nd to none.
Either way, I refuse any other phone from Sprint since I made the move because I wanted the Evo. I love the Evo, hence why I want a new one and get all this foolishness over with.
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Apple does have great customer service, there is no denying that whatsoever. But, if you are so disgruntled by your experiences with the Evo why don't you just go back to the iPhone? Or it may just be a good idea to not bring up apple and the iPhone on the Evo forums, I promise its only going to get you flamed.
zeuzinn said:
Those are issues well known to be present on ALL EVOs, regardless if they are reconditioned or not. Sounds like you've had nothing but bad luck with build quality, And that is all.
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This guy knows his stuff and is right no matter how you slice it. I went through the same issues with light leakage and screen coming up in the corner. I had Sprint send me 3 replacements before I realized that EVERY Evo is going to have a slight bit of light leakage. Light leakage is something that happens eventually anyways with any touchscreen device. Take a look at a used Ipod touch, I have seen it on many different touch's. As for the difference in new and refurb MOST of the time a refurb is actually better because the phone goes through alot more inspection and tests then a brand new one.
Visionikz03 said:
like the other guy said, yes that sucks that u keep getting f***ed up phones but u really think the "other guys" will do u anymore favors than sprint already has? Think about it? If u have had this many replacement evos maybe u could ask them to get u a different replacement or swap for a shift...
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Sounds like bad experiences with the replacements which is very understandable. If I were in your shoes I would probably demand a new phone too, while keeping in mind that even if its new it is still going to have light leakage. From my experiences with Sprint, if you want to get something done you have to talk to Retention or Customer Relations. Not too sure what they call it now but it is basically the people who handle customers wanting to cancel their service with Sprint. Every time I have had a problem with customer service getting things done, I have just requested to talk to them. They will bend over backwards for you to keep you as a customer, as long as your respectful to them. This would be my recommendation to you from my experience, because they are the ultimate power for Customer service for Sprint. They can do alot of things and override stuff that other reps cannot.

Yellowcard8992 said:
Apple does have great customer service, there is no denying that whatsoever. But, if you are so disgruntled by your experiences with the Evo why don't you just go back to the iPhone? Or it may just be a good idea to not bring up apple and the iPhone on the Evo forums, I promise its only going to get you flamed.
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Only reason I brought up Apple is due to their CS. I know their phone doesn't measure up, but after getting kicked in the nuts a few times, you want to give that part a rest and get kicked somewhere else.
This guy knows his stuff and is right no matter how you slice it. I went through the same issues with light leakage and screen coming up in the corner. I had Sprint send me 3 replacements before I realized that EVERY Evo is going to have a slight bit of light leakage. Light leakage is something that happens eventually anyways with any touchscreen device. Take a look at a used Ipod touch, I have seen it on many different touch's. As for the difference in new and refurb MOST of the time a refurb is actually better because the phone goes through alot more inspection and tests then a brand new one.
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Light leakage doesn't worry me too much. I haven't returned a phone or complained about a phone only due to light leakage. There has always been something else hardware wise wrong along with that.
Sounds like bad experiences with the replacements which is very understandable. If I were in your shoes I would probably demand a new phone too, while keeping in mind that even if its new it is still going to have light leakage. From my experiences with Sprint, if you want to get something done you have to talk to Retention or Customer Relations. Not too sure what they call it now but it is basically the people who handle customers wanting to cancel their service with Sprint. Every time I have had a problem with customer service getting things done, I have just requested to talk to them. They will bend over backwards for you to keep you as a customer, as long as your respectful to them. This would be my recommendation to you from my experience, because they are the ultimate power for Customer service for Sprint. They can do alot of things and override stuff that other reps cannot.
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I tried the retentions dept. They basically offered me a LG Rumor or a Blackberry Curve for $50. They said they can do nothing more if I want to cancel.

There is another member going through this same issue. The rule a thumb and apparently in the fine print somewhere it does say after 3 replacements that they have to offer you a new phone. I have actually dealt with this before and after 3 was given a new phone just didn't realize it was in fine print. But apparently it is in policy so I would bring that up to a rep if I were you.

Yellowcard8992 said:
There is another member going through this same issue. The rule a thumb and apparently in the fine print somewhere it does say after 3 replacements that they have to offer you a new phone. I have actually dealt with this before and after 3 was given a new phone just didn't realize it was in fine print. But apparently it is in policy so I would bring that up to a rep if I were you.
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Sprint store just called and said my "new to me" phone came in today. I'm going to check it out after work. If there are still issues, I'm going to ask them about this policy.

Same thing happened to me worth my last phone the palm pre, I had 10 of em in 6 months. After the 4rth one I demanded a new one, they reluctantly gave me one, unfortunately that one failed in less than two weeks
After playing who's your favorite customer for a few more months the, evo dropped so palm could finally kiss my a$$.
It sucks your having those problems, my phone hasnt had any problem and (knock on wood) have had it for going on 6 months now
Swyped from a galaxy far far away......

HAHAHAHA!!!
ROFLMAO.
You have just told my story as far as my sprint experience goes.
I am also on my 3rd replacement phone.
The original- Speaker went out
First replacement- Screen hotspot
Second replacement- Light leakage (i had to complain and yell to get this one replaced)
Third replacement (current phone)- light leakage
I have given up with this third replacement!

O and by the way....
From what information I have gathered from Sprint and HTC, light leakage is NOT a known issue according to them. I specifically talked to the HTC warranty department and they said it has shown up on some phones but is not previlent enough to say it is a known issue with the phone

Not sure if this will work for your state but I know it works in NY.
If you had 4 Evo replacements, call customer service and ask for a supervisor. It should be documented on your account that you got 4 replacements. Tell them under your state's lemon law, you got more than 3 faulty refurbished Evos within 3 months. You want a NIB (New in box) Evo sent. Or you can ask for a comparable phone if you want to switch off the Evo. They will probably give you the choice of the Epic or Evo Shift.
They will push for the same phone. The stores will not do this for you. You have to call customer service. If customer service doesn't do it for you, ask to be transfered to retentions (cancellation department) and ask for a supervisor there. They have the power to give you anything you want, though you might not get it.
If no one is cooperating, hang up before they can note your account and call back. Most of the time it depends on whether the person wants to help you or not. Let them know you are frustrated but don't act like an ass.

sekigah84 said:
Not sure if this will work for your state but I know it works in NY.
If you had 4 Evo replacements, call customer service and ask for a supervisor. It should be documented on your account that you got 4 replacements. Tell them under your state's lemon law, you got more than 3 faulty refurbished Evos within 3 months. You want a NIB (New in box) Evo sent. Or you can ask for a comparable phone if you want to switch off the Evo. They will probably give you the choice of the Epic or Evo Shift.
They will push for the same phone. The stores will not do this for you. You have to call customer service. If customer service doesn't do it for you, ask to be transfered to retentions (cancellation department) and ask for a supervisor there. They have the power to give you anything you want, though you might not get it.
If no one is cooperating, hang up before they can note your account and call back. Most of the time it depends on whether the person wants to help you or not. Let them know you are frustrated but don't act like an ass.
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+1
Same problems on verizon. They are NO better unfortunately. Actually, they told me they no longer offer new replacement, ever, and i was paying for the extended warranty and insurance.

ryandoubleu said:
ROFLMAO.
You have just told my story as far as my sprint experience goes.
I am also on my 3rd replacement phone.
The original- Speaker went out
First replacement- Screen hotspot
Second replacement- Light leakage (i had to complain and yell to get this one replaced)
Third replacement (current phone)- light leakage
I have given up with this third replacement!
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Got my 4th Evo last night. Turns out this one has severe light leakage. Compared it to my wife's hardware ver. 004 phone and this one is very noticeable. Told the people at Sprint Repair and they said they'll swap out the screens, but they don't have any in stock right now.
Waiting for the Operations Manager, Brian Patrick from Sprint corporate to call me back today.

ryandoubleu said:
From what information I have gathered from Sprint and HTC, light leakage is NOT a known issue according to them. I specifically talked to the HTC warranty department and they said it has shown up on some phones but is not previlent enough to say it is a known issue with the phone
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They tried to tell me "It's a non-issue, it's only cosmetic."
While I understand that it is only cosmetic, if I'm buying the Ferrari of all phone (HTC and Sprint market it as the best on the market), then I don't want even a scratch on my Ferrari. If I paid good money for it, I want my good money's worth and I demand that it be perfect.
There may be those who may say "Give it up, it's just the way the phone is.". To them, I say at what point in your life did you give up wanting your money's worth? At what point did you say to yourself a BRAND NEW item should be of garbage quality as long as it's in new packaging?

4th Epic Jacked. **sprint employees** any other options?

Now I seem to remember that after X amount of replacements sprint is "supposed" to reccomend another phone as a replacement...
Could anybody in the know tell me/PM me what might be on the WEL list?
Big TIA!
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to my knowledge/experiences it is totally up to the stores discretion. ive seen people as of late going on the 4th, 5th device of the same model. this isnt just due to the store, but also because with certain models there is no comparable phone that isnt a downgrade.. that being said, its not likely they are going to give you an evo or a nexus, may be best to work the angle of an early upgrade with a discount to the equipment if they are continuing to offer the same equipment

Ya that's what I thought...not trying to get a nexus, but was wondering if the evo could be an option...
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Good luck is all I can really say.

Our store is only Advanced exchange, and we've got to look at device history, and decide if the person is just trying to get into a different model. We would either order another Epic (depending on what broke on this one, and what broke on the previous ones... might just be an education issue rather than something defective) or see what else is on the WEL. (BTW, WEL list is redundant, kind of like ATM machine.)
Really, it depends on the store you go to, and how you handle the situation.
What is wrong with this phone and what was wrong with the previous ones?

NO. I worked in a group called Multiple Device Exchange. There is no policy that says we will exchange the device for another one. Sprint is a warranty replacement. There is a program called WE'LL, but that is few and far between. It is Sprint policy that after 3 Advanced Exchanges in a 12 month period, the customer has to go to the repair center for the device to be looked at. There is a 35 mile exception to that rule.
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What is wrong with this phone? It honestly sounds like u want an evo
"The greatest respect you can earn is self respect" Louie Simmons

Okay, it really depends on who you are dealing with.
Here is the thing, to qualify for the WEL Program you must have at LEAST 3 replacements that involved a tech store. It depends the person you talk to, but that is the minimum, and it must be pretty close together.
Now it depends on your issue. If you feel that your problem or problems were hardware related, you most likely couldn't switch to a Nexus S as it is similar hardware UNLESS your issue is physical keyboard related.
If it is software, Nexus S may be up for grabs, since it is google.
As for getting an Evo, it is possible, usually they try to stay within the same manufacturer, but it is not unheard of to switch out,
Unfortunately the Evo is on nationwide back order (so is the Epic) so it may be hard to get that. I hear the Samsung Within is coming July 24th, I would wait for that, and keep getting your Epic replaced so you have more to complain about.

Well I've been hella nice about having to go in... its not their fault that refurbs just show up jacked...
First epic bought on launch day, the processor fried, wouldn't update...
Second one.. immediately the accelerometer was wildly funky, couldn't play any games.. brought it back the same day at 5:50 and waited until about 8:30pm.. then the tech came out and told me that it makes texts and calls now :-( appearantly nobody told him what I said about that not being the issue... had to bring it back the next day.... had to wait a week since it was memorial day...
Third (current).... the home, back, menu, and search buttons choose when to work. Usually after hitting them about 6+ times...
So on Friday when they told me to come get the next one... it wasn't there, the phones back ordered.. so at this point after being there about 10 times in 2 weeks.. I asked what I'm supposed to do about a phone? The girl rudely told me there's nothing they are going to do... I asked about a nib epic... flatly told no, they won't do that and I have to wait.. even though the TEP sign flatly states "next day replacement".. so I got pissed and said **** sprint and stormed out (this being the only time I've been out of line)
Called sprint and some blow hard said what do you want from us? I said a phone that works.... he said that he can't bring me one since he's in new mexico and cali is to far for him to drive. ****in dumb ass...
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Google Voice (with record) is your friend in those cases.. CS Reps shouldnt be saying stuff like that. (nor should the customer be a ****)

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Google Voice (with record) is your friend in those cases.. CS Reps shouldnt be saying stuff like that. (nor should the customer be a ****)
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dangit wish i though of using that.. i was really professional the whole process.. minus the rude asst. manager setting me off..

lazydazed said:
Well I've been hella nice about having to go in... its not their fault that refurbs just show up jacked...
First epic bought on launch day, the processor fried, wouldn't update...
Second one.. immediately the accelerometer was wildly funky, couldn't play any games.. brought it back the same day at 5:50 and waited until about 8:30pm.. then the tech came out and told me that it makes texts and calls now :-( appearantly nobody told him what I said about that not being the issue... had to bring it back the next day.... had to wait a week since it was memorial day...
Third (current).... the home, back, menu, and search buttons choose when to work. Usually after hitting them about 6+ times...
So on Friday when they told me to come get the next one... it wasn't there, the phones back ordered.. so at this point after being there about 10 times in 2 weeks.. I asked what I'm supposed to do about a phone? The girl rudely told me there's nothing they are going to do... I asked about a nib epic... flatly told no, they won't do that and I have to wait.. even though the TEP sign flatly states "next day replacement".. so I got pissed and said **** sprint and stormed out (this being the only time I've been out of line)
Called sprint and some blow hard said what do you want from us? I said a phone that works.... he said that he can't bring me one since he's in new mexico and cali is to far for him to drive. ****in dumb ass...
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First phone - how did the processor fry? Custom ROM/Kernel?
Second phone - Did you calibrate the accelerometer? Did they hard reset to see if the issue remained?
Third phone - Do you have a screen protector that covers the buttons and is starting to wear out? This actually sounds hardware related, but there may be some other things killing the buttons.
TEP next day replacement applies to deductible based claims. If you want to call Asurion and pay $100 to get a replacement Epic next day, you do have that option (if they have any in stock.)
Based on the situation, I would definitely not switch you out of this device yet. The issues are not recurring (different issue on different devices) and even though the button issue is a legitimate concern, I would want to know more about the first two swaps before considering a device change.
Yes, the phone is backordered, just like the EVO (so even if they approved a different device, you still wouldn't get it right now anyway.) and we aren't typically able to switch you to a NIB phone, unless your existing one is completely non-functional, and the manager allows us to take the hit for breaking WEL.
I'd be willing to bet that the issue can be fixed with a new digitizer, which the tech stores *might* be able to replace if they have one.
Did you leave the device with the techs on the home keys issue or was this a non-tech store you went to? Which of these stores were corporate owned or third party?

1st one I did root and try an older oc rom.. but I went back to stock almost immediately, like back in january.. its not a windows phone and I like how stock performs..
2nd Yes I did calibrate through the display settings...and hard reset.. multiple times..
3rd.. no screen protectors required with this bad boy! The buttons just would pick and choose when to work... mostly not..
The store I bring it to (but not ever again) is a corporate repair center..
I try EVERYTHING I can before I bring any phone in.. including formating the sd card.. but this all happened within a 2 week period. Frustrating...
I actually just got a nib epic today... after a politely worded email to every sprint exec I could find an address for... they even had it set up at a sprint store close to where I am working today since I work in other cities a lot..
All I wanted was a phone that works.. period. Been a customer for 9+ years.
Much love sprint!! Guess I won't be getting that dell streak5 anytime soon..
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Very similar thing happened to me and I can understand the frustration of taking the time to get to the Sprint store, wait 2+ hours, only to be told everything is OK or just come back in 3 days plus holidays. The wait through the line, the tech inspection, and the decision making with the best course of action are not very well documented nor advertised in their TEP literature.
I would qualify my rage as "murderous" at times, and it was very difficult to stay professional at various stages of dealing with some employees. I was fortunate to get a NIB Epic after 3 bad refurbs and a friendly discussion with the store manager... the reps on the phone were beyond useless, however. Did you deal with any of the 17 departments that insist on transferring you before taking any initiative whatsoever?
I was even asked if my issues had been resolved and if I would give them a good rating. I said that I'd be lying if I said I would since the phone was about as functional as an underweight paperweight... after being offered to escalate things to a resolution specialist, I kindly declined to hold insisting that I'd be busy looking for a bat to test against my phone instead.
It would've been cheaper to pay the $100 and get a temp job in place of listening to crappy music at the Sprint store. /rant

lmao... i refuse to go back into that store ever again. rude, incompetent, pea brained, number conscious NOT customer conscious ass hole managers.. the techs and others were cool however .. i went through 12 touch pros LEGITIMATELY before i had to go scout out another store that would order me a tp2 or ANYTHING else for that matter. (guess i didnt learn my lesson). talk about wanting to drive my car full speed into the store window.
but the only bad thing about spending the 100 bucks is that, i think, they pull the phones from the same place that sprint does... so youre 50/50 on what you get anyway... but the next day policy is definitely worth the c-note.
on the phone transfer thing.. i only spoke to the girl that answers the phone her supervisor and then "account management"? the last one was the douche that said he couldnt bring me a phone from new mexico.. i told him thanks for wasting both of our time for the last 15 minutes, ill be going with att, thanks for the inspiration to do it asap...

Well, if it makes you feel any better, I am an employee and went through 6 pre's before I was able to upgrade into the EPIC (out of my pocket, btw, not as an ESRP exchange.) My device exchanges have to go through my District Manager, and he is really picky about letting an employee switch devices. I even made the case that each pre I switched to cost the company a lot of money, and it would have made business sense to switch me to the next option on WEL (which had less device problems)
I started in '04 with Sprint, and I learned early on that the only department over the phone that gets anything done is Retention. Your best bet is to find a sales rep that cares about service (as well as numbers) and who is willing to do what they can to get you taken care of (within reason.)

Nah it makes me sad... that even employees get the jacked up run around... all my buddies with their iphones look at me puzzled when I tell them what we go through sometimes..
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After replacing 5 Samsung Moments due to the radio locking up constantly someone in corporate retentions showed some mercy and gave me a free month of service and a $200 credit to put to a new phone. I made up the difference with cash and bought an Epic at the no contract price.

TEP - said you get refurbs or NEW... so if the refurbs are on backorder then you should be able to get a NEW PHONE.
just saying

spivey8 said:
TEP - said you get refurbs or NEW... so if the refurbs are on backorder then you should be able to get a NEW PHONE.
just saying
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monkeyracer said:
If you want to call Asurion and pay $100 to get a replacement Epic next day, you do have that option (if they have any in stock.)
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Asurion has a different inventory of phones. If they have a refurb in stock, they will send you a refurb, if they don't and they do have new stock, that is what they will send.
The store has to go by the WEL, whatever the highest priority number is on the list is what we are officially allowed to swap to. This is almost always a refurb of the same model. If that's not available, then the next in the list is usually the NIB from the store stock, but only if the WEL says we can use those. Right now, the EPIC refurbs are backordered, and WEL says NO for swapping to a NIB. Anything beyond that is up to the discretion of the store manager.

Samsung/Google screwed me up

Thread Closed....Sorry for making u guys trouble

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Topic : I have been screwed up by +Samsung Mobile / +Google ,
Disclaimer : This may be entirely my fault
Before we start, let us go back to some histories ...
First of all, I have to admit that i am google/ +Android fan boy. When google announced Android, I was really excited. And I bought First Google Phone G1 through Google Developer Program. (it is still with me now). And I went on and bought HTC desire which is supposed to be same spec as nexus one. And let me remind you that at the point of time, I was staying at the house of Apple fan ( my wife and her two nephews) and we got two Macbook Pro and iphone 3GS (and later 3 x iphone 4S) at home. And I was fully aware of my android short comings (such as battery life and smoothness) but still happy with openness of my android phone ( rooting, Cyanogen, MIUI etc etc)
Fast Forward to 2012, when +Google announced Android 4.0 and +theverge.com rated it so high for +Galaxynexus Galaxynexus , i thought ..well it is time to upgrade my phone (HTC desire).
So, I went ahead and bought my Galaxy Nexus, rooted and installed AOKP custom ROM. Even though battery life is not really there when compared with iphone 4s, i was really happy with it. And i did recommend Android to my friends and told them that it is now nearly as smooth as iOS. (And due to that they bought SGS II,Galaxy Note etc tec)
When my wife's other nephew (+Thiha Soe) from Myanmar wanted an Android Phone, i was not hesitate to recommend Galaxy Nexus. So here I am , bought another galaxy nexus, and this time round, i want to play safe. I did not root his galaxy nexus. I happily bought it and install a few apps and sent it to him. And I did mention him about battery life but i assured him that it is*nearly* as smooth as iphone 4s and it is stable.
Then a few days later, he called me to say that Galaxy nexus is not usable any more. I was like .. what? what's wrong? he said there was no network connection at all and he googled it and found this is a known issue that a lot of people encountered it.
To my horror, when i google it, i found that he was right. i found a lot of people complaint about No Network issue for galaxy nexus. (So, As in my disclaimer, it is due to entirely my fault as i didn't do my homework)
Ok. Now, let's bygone be bygone. i just brought back GN (from Myanmar) and sent to +Samsung Mobile service center (Singapore) hoping that they can fix it fast due to the fact that it was known issue.
For comparison, my wife's nephew (who is in singapore) went to Apple Service Center and told them his phone (iphone 4s) is screwed up due to jailbreaking. And they exchanged for him NEW iphone 4s after 3 days. (i really hate myself that i am writing this)
Now, For our Google Flagship Phone, I called to samsung 5 days later, they said it was NOT ready yet. Come on Samsung ... of course I did make noise to their manager (or supervisor) and 2 hours later, I received SMS saying that my phone is ready for collection. wait .. Did they told me earlier that my phone is not ready yet? After i made noise, they said it is ready for collection?
Anyway, i went and collect my phone at SamSung Service center plaza Singapura with unhappy mind (remember my phone is ready only when i made noise). And it made me unhappier that one of their Q screen was down. Mind you, they have only 2 Q screens, once is at reception counter facing to outside which is working and one is at LCD screen facing to customer resting area WHICH IS NOT WORKING at that time. (To be fair to QMatic, later it was working fine after kill process and restart it)
That made me even more upset.And after that they just collected my Q ticket and they said they will call my NAME. And there were a lot of confusion that some of them (Cust Support) are actually calling Q numbers instead of names (but Q ticket are already given to them).
Finally, my turn came, they called my name and they gave me my GN, and they said they changed mainboard and LCD screen .. OH MY GOD, really??? mainboard and LCD?????
COME ON,,,, I just bought it less than a month ago. WHY CAN'T YOU GUYS GIVE ME REPLACEMENT NEW SET? And changed LCD screen for BASEBAND SIGNAL ISSUE?
I was lost of words, And I am not the one who is good in complaining, So i SHUT UP. But deep down, i am really upset, TERRIBLY UPSET. Not only just because of service of Singapore SAMSUNG Repair Center, but also because i know that i am losing battle of Android Vs iPhone.
So, After that, i just tested so called repaired GN with my SIM card (which is taken out from my rooted GN), called to my sis, said Hello. Seem all fine. But remember, I wad in bad mood, I was really upset.
after tested at service counter, I went to one of the phone display counter, i exchanged back my sim card to my rooted GN (from repaired GN). During the process, I put my wallet on the counter.
Then, I went out the samsung WITHOUT TAKING BACK MY WALLET. And winthin 2 mins, i realized that I left my wallet there. I run back and searched, IT WASN'T THERE ANYMORE. And I lost ~350 SGD,4 credit cards, one ATM card, 1 IC, 1 student card and a few name cards.
Okay, Now, i admit that it was entirely all my fault, I trusted SAMSUNG/GOOGLE too much , I didn't do my home work well before buying GN, I stupidly left my wallet on the counter.
And yes, I still love +Android, XDA, Open Source, Gadgets (I just ordered Kindle Fire). But I felt that I have been screwed up ...And Thanks for reading the whole damn long post of mine.
Rgds,
Kaung
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Wait so they fixed the phone right? What's the problem? Maybe when they were repairing it they noticed the LCD was messed up too and fixed that. Apple is known for their great customer service but from your story it looks like Samsung didn't do too bad. They didn't give you a new phone on the spot but they did fix the problem. And the Wallet thing was your fault, you know that, so can't put that on Samsung or google. For all you know another customer stole it.
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Uh, really cool story bro? Tried Google wallet?
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malikadnanm said:
Wait so they fixed the phone right? What's the problem? Maybe when they were repairing it they noticed the LCD was messed up too and fixed that. Apple is known for their great customer service but from your story it looks like Samsung didn't do too bad. They didn't give you a new phone on the spot but they did fix the problem. And the Wallet thing was your fault, you know that, so can't put that on Samsung or google. For all you know another customer stole it.
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Yes, They Fixed the phone after 5 days later. Yes, Wallet thing is my fault. Yes, It is my fault that I did not do my homework before buying things. The whole thing is due to my fault.

Dafuq I just read.
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Whole barrage of bad luck, hope it goes well man.
And to be fair.. that's only in Singapore. There's a million other stores you could have shipped or taken it to. Galaxy Nexus is not quite a evolutionary step in the android world but it did bring us Ice Cream Sandwich. I'm 100% behind Android, I hate Apple with every fiber in my being and I know there computers are pretty superb but they market and make dozens of the same product at least twice a year. Literally not very much done to it either.
I'm probably going with the Rezound when my upgrade comes around.
Anyway, best of luck bud.
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There's a problem that I haven't read about...gotcha.
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So you think if you dropped your wallet in an Apple Store (or any other store) and someone swiped it, that you would get the wallet back because the store is better? Its not their fault someone lifted your wallet without an employee noticing...
That aside, sounds like you got some bad luck, but typically poor customer support. If your phone got it fixed, that's what matters. Its unfortunate, but you will never get Apple Store-style support (although it is not always perfect!) in any other manufacturer or carrier store. This is part of why people buy those products. If you're honestly that bothered by poor customer support, you need to start living in a 5-start hotel with concierge, buy only Apple products, and shop at high-scale boutiques.

martonikaj said:
So you think if you dropped your wallet in an Apple Store (or any other store) and someone swiped it, that you would get the wallet back because the store is better? Its not their fault someone lifted your wallet without an employee noticing...
That aside, sounds like you got some bad luck, but typically poor customer support. If you got it fixed, that's what matters. Its unfortunate, but you will never get Apple Store-style support (although it is not always perfect!) in any other manufacturer or carrier store. This is part of why people buy those products.
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Martonikaj,
how many times i have to say that it was my fault? And I fully understand that Even i put my wallet at Apple/Orange/Banana Store, I will not get back. I am not blaming their store employee.
Moral of story is do the homework before buying things. Do not put 100% trust on Apple/Orange/Banana/whatever.
Again, let me admit that this is ENTIRELY my fault.

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Martonikaj,
how many times i have to say that it was my fault?
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So why is it ever included in this rant? I realize it affects your view of the CS and the store (just as part of the whole picture), but it has nothing to do with the quality of the store if your wallet got stolen.

Seriously another one of these threads?
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martonikaj said:
So why is it ever included in this rant? I realize it affects your view of the CS and the store (just as part of the whole picture), but it has nothing to do with the quality of the store if your wallet got stolen.
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If i did homework --> I will not buy GN --> I don't have Network issue --> I don't need to go Service Center --> I will not be upset ---> I will not lose concentration --> I will not lose my wallet
Yeah, Start with me.

Are there no such things as cameras there?

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Are there no such things as cameras there?
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Jonathan,
That's really good point. Thanks for pointing out. I will ask them for camera record. How stupid i am!
Rgds
Kaung

There's a network issue with the gnex??
Why was I not informed of this??
Here was me thinking that mine was working fine when in fact the whole time it was broken
I shake my fist at you Samsung!!!
All joking aside, your phone is fixed, the gnex is a great phone, the store will have cameras so all in all its a happy ending!

nodstuff said:
There's a network issue with the gnex??
Why was I not informed of this??
Here was me thinking that mine was working fine when in fact the whole time it was broken
I shake my fist at you Samsung!!!
All joking aside, your phone is fixed, the gnex is a great phone, the store will have cameras so all in all its a happy ending!
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Ha ha ... Yeah Right.. I wish happy ending And Thank for your joke ..... And Yes, my rooted GN is working fine. Affected one is Unrooted GN for my wife's nephew in Myanmar (Burma) . Ok.. Now it seem to be fine. Hope it is fixed else ship to Singapore-->Myanmar-->Singapore is a pain in the ass.

masully84 said:
Seriously another one of these threads?
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Well, at least this is different than the usual.
kaungmyataung said:
If i did homework --> I will not buy GN --> I don't have Network issue --> I don't need to go Service Center --> I will not be upset ---> I will not lose concentration --> I will not lose my wallet
Yeah, Start with me.
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If only I knew that by buying my Galaxy Nexus it means I'll have my wallet stolen. I never would have bought this phone! Why didn't anyone warn me.
/s
You're 110% unnecessarily putting the blame of getting your wallet stolen on your prior decision to buy a Galaxy Nexus. Ever think that you could have gotten your wallet stolen at a restaurant 2 weeks earlier had you not got the Nexus? In that case, the Galaxy Nexus actually reduced your chances of getting your wallet stolen!
Let's drive the point home even harder. So say I bought a Mazda (car) 2 years ago, and tomorrow my house burns down because I left the oven on while at work. Do I sue Mazda for my house burning down?
/logic

martonikaj said:
Well, at least this is different than the usual.
If only I knew that by buying my Galaxy Nexus it means I'll have my wallet stolen. I never would have bought this phone! Why didn't anyone warn me.
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martonikaj,
I felt hurt when i saw your sarcasm (the whole thing just happened yesterday, so i am still feeling upset). But I know that u r right too. It's me, plain stupid idiot. Just that I wish i can be as nearly smart as you.

kaungmyataung said:
martonikaj,
I felt hurt when i saw your sarcasm (the whole thing just happened yesterday, so i am still feeling upset). But I know that u r right too. It's me, plain stupid idiot.
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No I completely understand it sucks, but you will not get much sympathy here (or anywhere) by trying to blame your mistake on the phone or manufacturer.
Stories are fine, whining is not.

Samsung Service Center is behaving poorly! What should I do?

Hi, I had to create this topic outta utter frustration and annoyance. Well my device was having a charging problem (it was taking long time to charge) and I submitted it to the nearest service center here (Divine Electro Solution, Calcutta, India) on 14th this month. Next day they called me and said the charger is the culprit (but they wasn't sure about that!) and they'll replace it. So I went to take my phone on last Saturday and they handed me the device with the new charging adapter (they didn't change the cable). As soon as I looked at the phone I was . The main screen had at least 6 or 7 very prominent scratches, kind of things which could be only done by keys, or razors, that if you scratch them pretty badly on the screen. I said what have you guys done to the screen? They said, they don't know! They sent the phone to head office and they might have done that. They were pretty sure that I would take the phone, but I wasn't gonna, why would I accept a scratched device while I gave them an almost brand new and shiny one? Anyway, they said I will get it back on Monday, with the front LCD replaced (or the glass maybe), so today I called them and they said there is no spare parts available and they don't know how long would it take. This annoyed me. Well it's not that I've given them a scratched one and they could take all the time on earth, it's their damn responsibility. Anyway, I asked how long could it take and said to do it asap, but they said, they can't tell me any time frame and I could take my device back as it is now and come back when the LCD/glass is available to replace it. Well I am not doing that, because I know as soon as they give me the device they will not hold any sort of interest for any further process. So I didn't take it.
I emailed this incident to the complaint section of Samsung, sent the same copy to Executive board too, and got a reply also, saying,
This is to acknowledge the receipt of your concern and also to inform that the same has been highlighted to the Executive Escalation Team( CEO's Desk).
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Well I don't know if they will do anything or not, I sent the mail on Saturday and till today they didn't contact my local SC or HO that's for sure. There isn't a helpline number in their website where I could reach them and tell my issue.
Anyway, what you guys think I should do? Should I just wait more or do something? It's been a week now they are holding the device, and don't know for how long more they have intended to!
Thanks in advance.
PS: Forgot to say how stupid these SC guys are, they told me on Sat after giving me the new charger that this phone should take 5 hours if not more to charge completely, as it has a bigger battery. I, just to make sure they were complete stupids and brainless asked, how big is the battery? They said, it has 2500 mAh battery and a 2A charger should charge it in 5 hours :laugh:
I never had a pathetic experience like this with any brand previously, be it Nokia, hTC or Apple.

Thats cos samsung are noobs stick t0 google.or.htc in my opinion although the note 2 is best on market
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jujuburi said:
Hi, I had to create this topic outta utter frustration and annoyance. Well my device was having a charging problem (it was taking long time to charge) and I submitted it to the nearest service center here (Divine Electro Solution, Calcutta, India) on 14th this month. Next day they called me and said the charger is the culprit (but they wasn't sure about that!) and they'll replace it. So I went to take my phone on last Saturday and they handed me the device with the new charging adapter (they didn't change the cable). As soon as I looked at the phone I was . The main screen had at least 6 or 7 very prominent scratches, kind of things which could be only done by keys, or razors, that if you scratch them pretty badly on the screen. I said what have you guys done to the screen? They said, they don't know! They sent the phone to head office and they might have done that. They were pretty sure that I would take the phone, but I wasn't gonna, why would I accept a scratched device while I gave them an almost brand new and shiny one? Anyway, they said I will get it back on Monday, with the front LCD replaced (or the glass maybe), so today I called them and they said there is no spare parts available and they don't know how long would it take. This annoyed me. Well it's not that I've given them a scratched one and they could take all the time on earth, it's their damn responsibility. Anyway, I asked how long could it take and said to do it asap, but they said, they can't tell me any time frame and I could take my device back as it is now and come back when the LCD/glass is available to replace it. Well I am not doing that, because I know as soon as they give me the device they will not hold any sort of interest for any further process. So I didn't take it.
I emailed this incident to the complaint section of Samsung, sent the same copy to Executive board too, and got a reply also, saying,
Well I don't know if they will do anything or not, I sent the mail on Saturday and till today they didn't contact my local SC or HO that's for sure. There isn't a helpline number in their website where I could reach them and tell my issue.
Anyway, what you guys think I should do? Should I just wait more or do something? It's been a week now they are holding the device, and don't know for how long more they have intended to!
Thanks in advance.
PS: Forgot to say how stupid these SC guys are, they told me on Sat after giving me the new charger that this phone should take 5 hours if not more to charge completely, as it has a bigger battery. I, just to make sure they were complete stupids and brainless asked, how big is the battery? They said, it has 2500 mAh battery and a 2A charger should charge it in 5 hours :laugh:
I never had a pathetic experience like this with any brand previously, be it Nokia, hTC or Apple.
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I can understand your frustration. There will be an officer for every city to check whether the service centre guys or behaving properly or not. Better get hold of that guy. Anyway you have contacted the executive section right, tell them you will accept the phone only if they provide brand new or replace the screen including glass. Otherwise you can sue them in consumer court and claim more damages more than 1 lakh. Better wait for the new piece.

chwads2k8 said:
Thats cos samsung are noobs stick t0 google.or.htc in my opinion although the note 2 is best on market
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Well Android is NOT my cup of tea, and I dislike those Nexus phones very much, I just can't stand the Stock Android feel. That's why I purchased the Note 2, but if I had known the after sales service is this terrible, then I would never buy it.
chaitanya87 said:
I can understand your frustration. There will be an officer for every city to check whether the service centre guys or behaving properly or not. Better get hold of that guy. Anyway you have contacted the executive section right, tell them you will accept the phone only if they provide brand new or replace the screen including glass. Otherwise you can sue them in consumer court and claim more damages more than 1 lakh. Better wait for the new piece.
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Well I am talking with 'that' guy from day 1 and what amuses me that a section manager knows nothing about Note 2! He keeps saying it's a new device, no one knows much about it! I mean in what earth a more than 7-8 weeks old device is 'new' device. His and his total groups lack of knowledge amaze me.
Update: At 10 am today I got a call from Samsung HO and they made a conference call and connected me with that guy with whom I was talking from very first. Same crap he said again, unknown period of time due to lack of parts availability. Nonsense.
So this is their solution, I think they just found a new feature in phones, and that is conference calling.
I am so ashamed. Ashamed on myself, that I purchased this phone.

jujuburi said:
Well Android is NOT my cup of tea, and I dislike those Nexus phones very much, I just can't stand the Stock Android feel. That's why I purchased the Note 2, but if I had known the after sales service is this terrible, then I would never buy it.
Well I am talking with 'that' guy from day 1 and what amuses me that a section manager knows nothing about Note 2! He keeps saying it's a new device, no one knows much about it! I mean in what earth a more than 7-8 weeks old device is 'new' device. His and his total groups lack of knowledge amaze me.
Update: At 10 am today I got a call from Samsung HO and they made a conference call and connected me with that guy with whom I was talking from very first. Same crap he said again, unknown period of time due to lack of parts availability. Nonsense.
So this is their solution, I think they just found a new feature in phones, and that is conference calling.
I am so ashamed. Ashamed on myself, that I purchased this phone.
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You should be asking for a replacement phone, not for repairs. It takes the whole 'we dont have parts available' issue out of the argument. This is their error, not yours. Insist on a new device.

Tell them if you don't have the parts, replace the phone.
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stoney73 said:
You should be asking for a replacement phone, not for repairs. It takes the whole 'we dont have parts available' issue out of the argument. This is their error, not yours. Insist on a new device.
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kdskamal said:
Tell them if you don't have the parts, replace the phone.
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I would DEMAND a new phone!

only iphone has a total replacement policy n thus the price:
well i had a camera issue with note 1 on the very first week,i hd rooted the phone but helpfully(xda) there was unroot,n i gave the phone to the service centre it took them 7 days to replace my front camera,but all was well,and yes availability of parts for a newly released device is hard.the person who inspected my device said front camera is only for video chatting that was the noobest reply i got,have a patient i hv a gult feeling ur problem will be solved.and as far as htc n google are concerned there have very small bussiness foot print in india,so samsung is a good choice for indians

I had huge bubbles under the gorilla glass so i gave it to sabsonic service center ( kolkata ).it was a 1 week old set with 0 scratches.they replaced the display and added more or less 5 scratches to screen and 15-20 scratches on back cover ( yeah back is ruined ) and few dents to the metal lining on sides.i asked them for an explanation,they said they dunno about it. if your issue is resolved,kindly update here.

I second you telling them to give you a new device. Either they fix it now, or they give you a new phone and you'll give back the parts. It's unacceptable that THEY mess up your phone and give it back, and then don't have the parts to change it... Fine... It's a new device, no new parts yet, but then give you a new phone to replace the busted up one!
You went in for a new CHARGER
and now you have to walk out with a NEW PHONE because THEY messed up!

D4rkShadow said:
I had huge bubbles under the gorilla glass so i gave it to sabsonic service center ( kolkata ).it was a 1 week old set with 0 scratches.they replaced the display and added more or less 5 scratches to screen and 15-20 scratches on back cover ( yeah back is ruined ) and few dents to the metal lining on sides.i asked them for an explanation,they said they dunno about it. if your issue is resolved,kindly update here.
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I called them yesterday and they said come and see, we have changed the 'Gorilla Glass' (the pronunciation made me laugh hard), see if you are satisfied. I went and checked the screen thoroughly and there was NO scratch and they indeed changed the front glass. But yea, there were two or three small dents at the metallic border, and the back cover is scratched as well, but this isn't my iP5, so I didn't give a damn at that plastic.
But for the issue I submitted the device, that was long charging problem, it is NOT resolved. Device is still taking same time like before. Now I am gonna try with a different charger or cable, and if it's not good I will ask them to replace the device.
One thing I did learn, these service center guys should go back to school and learn ABCD first, but I doubt that, because I don't think they have any better IQ than Forrest Gump.

i talked with them regarding exchange, they said " sorry we don't do that, we only replace faulty parts "

Dead pixel

Discovered a some white dead pixels today. It's like some light leaking trough a couple pixels. Returning the tablet today. Someone else with dead pixels?
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84tdan said:
Discovered a some white dead pixels today. It's like some light leaking trough a couple pixels. Returning the tablet today. Someone else with dead pixels?
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I got a decent screen after four replacements. I hope you are lucky and only need one
iiSo say we all!! from my SM-P6OO

Tried to return the note today for a replacement. But the carrier (VIVO here in Brazil) from wich i bought the tablet refused to give a replacement, refund neither. Bought exactly 10 days ago.
Here our Law say that the consumer has the right to replace within a 30 days time frame. But every major carrier give a **** about that (actually every retail store does this) and don't play by the rules. Now i must send to Samsung for repair. Yes, repair. I should wait 1 month to receive the same tablet with a new screen.
Now i'm going to sue the company, just to get what i am entitled. Just saying... i think your guys in US or in Europe, don't have to worry about this kind of stuff.

84tdan said:
Tried to return the note today for a replacement. But the carrier (VIVO here in Brazil) from wich i bought the tablet refused to give a replacement, refund neither. Bought exactly 10 days ago.
Here our Law say that the consumer has the right to replace within a 30 days time frame. But every major carrier give a **** about that (actually every retail store does this) and don't play by the rules. Now i must send to Samsung for repair. Yes, repair. I should wait 1 month to receive the same tablet with a new screen.
Now i'm going to sue the company, just to get what i am entitled. Just saying... i think your guys in US or in Europe, don't have to worry about this kind of stuff.
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Well done and good luck!!
iiSo say we all!! from my SM-P6OO

84tdan said:
Tried to return the note today for a replacement. But the carrier (VIVO here in Brazil) from wich i bought the tablet refused to give a replacement, refund neither. Bought exactly 10 days ago.
Here our Law say that the consumer has the right to replace within a 30 days time frame. But every major carrier give a **** about that (actually every retail store does this) and don't play by the rules. Now i must send to Samsung for repair. Yes, repair. I should wait 1 month to receive the same tablet with a new screen.
Now i'm going to sue the company, just to get what i am entitled. Just saying... i think your guys in US or in Europe, don't have to worry about this kind of stuff.
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I would've asked to talk to a manager and if they still said no got loud about a device that cost a lot and how they aren't replacing it under warranty. Once the managers get involved and a crowd gathers they just give up and give it over due to the bad publicity they are getting from you...

ultramag69 said:
I would've asked to talk to a manager and if they still said no got loud about a device that cost a lot and how they aren't replacing it under warranty. Once the managers get involved and a crowd gathers they just give up and give it over due to the bad publicity they are getting from you...
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Did just that. Went to the store, and spoke to the manager. Who still refused to replace the tablet. A crowd was watching and the damage for their image was for sure worse than the "cost" of replacing my gadget. I walked away with the tablet and my lawyer (my wife) sued today the company. We have already an appointment with the judge on 01/30 this month to make a deal. I also did a lot of bad publicity on social networks.
Some people are stupid, they think nobody will sue them. I will continue using my note with the dead pixel until i get a brand new later this month. Maybe i will root the hell out of it just for fun.

84tdan said:
Did just that. Went to the store, and spoke to the manager. Who still refused to replace the tablet. A crowd was watching and the damage for their image was for sure worse than the "cost" of replacing my gadget. I walked away with the tablet and my lawyer (my wife) sued today the company. We have already an appointment with the judge on 01/30 this month to make a deal. I also did a lot of bad publicity on social networks.
Some people are stupid, they think nobody will sue them. I will continue using my note with the dead pixel until i get a brand new later this month. Maybe i will root the hell out of it just for fun.
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:laugh: Blimey I thought you were joking about sueing - Best of luck mate