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We were comparing my SGN to my friends 2 year old windows phone. He was interested in browser speed and performance so I showed him, then he showed me his, then I got sad. I can hear the jokes starting, lol...
His windows browser was silky smooth, zooming in and out, and even the rotating was great. I read somewhere that Google did that rotaing delay so it won't accidentally rotate while in your pants or something like that. Well I don't want that, I would like that option. And I know for a fact it can rotate instantly and fluently. I say this because if you open stock camera, and rotate it around, the small indicators and gallery preview rotate flawlessly and silky smooth. Is it the ram? Why would a 2 year old device out perform a 1.2 processor these days in browser performance? I'm a little bummed.
And let me not mention that multi task soft button... And info would much be appreciated, thanks...
I guess we would need to know what model of windows mobile phone your friend had to start off.
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spencer88 said:
I guess we would need to know what model of windows mobile phone your friend had to start off.
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Windows Trophy, and I think it released this summer... ?
What's wrong with the multitask soft key? I think it's pretty awesome.
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Ask him if he wants to trade. I can have a guess as to who is getting the better deal
Also, if its an HTC Trophy, it was released May 2011. Hardly a 2-year old phone as you described in OP
I mostly have 2 things to say: 1) By most accounts the SGN has one of the fastest browsers of any mobile device (benchmark wise) and 2) You'd be pleasantly surprised how well WP7 performs on a single core 1ghz processor.
People really need to kick the stigma on WP7. Its not a POS platform. You shouldn't be surprised that it performs like it should.
It has to do with how each OS handles UI rendering and what gets loaded. Go to a site that requires flash and you'll start seeing limitations in WP
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It has to do with how each OS handles UI rendering and what gets loaded. Go to a site that requires flash and you'll start seeing limitations in WP
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I see your point but thats not the best comparison. Specifically choosing a site that only will load fully on one of the devices doesn't prove that device is better.
Loading a page that both devices can render fully and seeing which one does better (in benchmarks and look/feel) is the best head to head comparison.
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What's wrong with the multitask soft key? I think it's pretty awesome.
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It's one of my fave new features, just laggy... But I am running stock. It did release May, still half the ram... But he was amazed by the speedy UI stock and, of course, the screen...
WP 7 is just a faster UI and is more efficient than android in a lot of ways.
Also consider that his phone isn't pushing as many pixels as yours.
Microsoft has really focused on UI speed and touch response in WP 7, and it's pretty obvious when using one of those devices.
Even with ICS, android just doesn't match WP7 in terms of touch response and UI fluidity.
Nothing wrong with your device or his device. They're both great devices for different reasons.
4.03 helps quite a bit with the multi-tasking button lag, though.. so you'll see that improve when you get that update in the next few weeks.
Its been known that Microsoft went all out with windows phone and made the smoothest UI of all time and did extremely low level drivers with qualcom to get such performance out of the snapdragon chip set. Its the most fluid smooth UI I've ever seen. I'm just glad ice cream sandwich moved in that direction finally.
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WP 7 is just a faster UI and is more efficient than android in a lot of ways.
Also consider that his phone isn't pushing as many pixels as yours.
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I thought ICS was supposed to have hardware acceleration so the graphics don't burden the CPU ? So, if anything, the nexus should have an advantage over the Windows phone.
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Its been known that Microsoft went all out with windows phone and made the smoothest UI of all time and did extremely low level drivers with qualcom to get such performance out of the snapdragon chip set. Its the most fluid smooth UI I've ever seen. I'm just glad ice cream sandwich moved in that direction finally.
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Well the Windows phones are all single core as well. I would doubt that ICS will ever compete on a single core. Even the hardware on the nexus struggles to run it. I guess in a month or so when the quads and higher clocking phones come out with ICS, we will get to see how they compare. Thats why I ditched my GN's. I just don't think the hardware is enough for ICS. I went back my trusty Atrix 2, slapped an ICS theme on it, and it does everything better than the nexus.
It's really not a fair comparison, looking at one particular aspect. WP7 has only one resolution, much lower than the GNex. All the graphics are simpler, and it can't run all the things in the background.
It's like comparing a hot air balloon to a helicopter, based on how smooth they are.
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It's really not a fair comparison, looking at one particular aspect. WP7 has only one resolution, much lower than the GNex. All the graphics are simpler, and it can't run all the things in the background.
It's like comparing a hot air balloon to a helicopter, based on how smooth they are.
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Agree about the simplererer graphics. I am loving the metro theme they uave going. Simple, yet elegant. But nothing beats Android as far as customization and personalization goes...
I tell everyone if two people were to drop their ihones, and I were to pick them up I wouldn't be able to differentiate one by the other because they all look the same, maybe except for the background but you can't even tell since all those static icons are in the way I have no idea where I am going with this so yea....
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I'm still skeptical about the Metro UI. It has a bit too much text for my taste. What happened to the "a picture is worth a thousand words"? The UI is very beautiful though
I put together a little video comparing the Galaxy Nexus' browser to that of the iPhone 4S. Decided I'd share it with you guys. Hope you enjoy it.
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nice video i thoroughly enjoyed it.
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nice video i thoroughly enjoyed it.
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Thanks. I appreciate it.
Great Job on the video.
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So what was the point?(edit: never mind, for some reason the first time I watched it there was no audio on the video) I didn't watch the whole thing but find the iPhone browser is still better even with the smaller screen. The scrolling is actually better on the iPhone because majority of the time when you are reading a page you don't want to accidentally scroll all the way to the bottom. I'm not sure if you did this but iOS does scroll faster the longer the page is. Also I noticed you had some issues with the double tap to zoom in on the Nexus like I do where things get formatted weirdly or it doesn't zoom in on the correct part of the page. Also, I believe the GN renders every page in Roboto font? I want the actual font that the website designer decided was the best font on their page. I'm still keeping the GN for now but the update situation is really annoying me with this phone as I was planning to stay stock.
Great video though!
I'm impressed with the 4s performance. Faster loading times, more responsive pinch to zoom and better layout of webpages when they first loaded. I'll keep my GN but it sux to see it's not as polished as iphone/ios yet. Thanks for the video.
Was this with 4.0.3 or 4.0.2?
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So what was the point?
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Point was to show the differences between usability between the two browsers and demonstrate as ICS browser being more usable than iPhone alternative.
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The scrolling is actually better on the iPhone because majority of the time when you are reading a page you don't want to accidentally scroll all the way to the bottom. I'm not sure if you did this but iOS does scroll faster the longer the page is.
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I personally prefer if the scrolling does not have a stopper like iPhone has. When I am on a website I frequently visit, I tend to know how much I need to flick to scroll to specific part of the page. It is more intuitive and doing multiple flicks in a row and is especially useful to get to comments quickly on articles and news. Same applies to tab switching, which is much better on ICS.
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Also I noticed you had some issues with the double tap to zoom in on the Nexus like I do where things get formatted weirdly or it doesn't zoom in on the correct part of the page.
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ICS browser improves zooming quite a bit. Finger-zooming and double-tap have different functionality attached. Double-tab re-formats paragraphs to fit the screen while finger-zooming does not. This is really useful for many cases in my opinion.
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Also, I believe the GN renders every page in Roboto font? I want the actual font that the website designer decided was the best font on their page. I'm still keeping the GN for now but the update situation is really annoying me with this phone as I was planning to stay stock.
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No it does not, where is that coming from? ICS has a different 'default' font than what is on Windows (where it is Times New Roman, instead of Roboto), but if designer assigns a custom font that exists on Android, it is shown as such. Of course certain Windows-only or Mac-only fonts are not supported by default (there is no Comic Sans on Android, for example), but that has been an issue with all multi-platform web's ever since browsers other than Internet Explorer gained some market share.
Also, you can't get the actual font the web designer intended unless the software that runs the website takes this into account. A lot of websites are built Windows-only and look different on Mac's. Fonts are even more different for a devices that run Android, since Android does not incorporate proprietary and copyrighted fonts by default.
But with proper web software, if the website is coded right, then ICS browser supports all the possible fonts out there.
edit: Ok I just watched the video again and getting the audio now. I'm not sure why I didn't have audio the first time.
ICS improves zooming but it's still not at the level of the iPhone. Just admit it is better on the iPhone instead of hiding behind the fact that it is better than gingerbread. I'd have to find the article but one review mentioned the page rendering was weird and when they compared to an iPhone they realized it was using Roboto which messed up the website design. It might have just been one website that had that issue so I'm not 100% sure since Roboto looks a hell of a lot like Helvetica.
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Yes the point was to show the differences but the OP never gave his own opinion unless for some reason I wasn't getting audio on the video. ICS improves zooming but it's still not at the level of the iPhone. Just admit it is better on the iPhone instead of hiding behind the fact that it is better than gingerbread. I'd have to find the article but one review mentioned the page rendering was weird and when they compared to an iPhone they realized it was using Roboto which messed up the website design. It might have just been one website that had that issue so I'm not 100% sure since Roboto looks a hell of a lot like Helvetica.
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theverge.com is an example of that - the correct font doesn't display on the GN.
back on topic, Great video.
I'd say that the overall browser experience of the GN is quite a bit better than my 4s, despite the rendering and scrolling issues et al - the 4.65 + 720p combo really is killer for the web. Fantastic experience BUT it comes at a price which sacrifices its reliability - battery life
that's why the 4s is still the go-to browsing device for me - i can browse the web for around 7-8 hours on my before the battery drains while i can barely go 2-3 hours on my GN.
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theverge.com is an example of that - the correct font doesn't display on the GN.
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This is because developers of theverge.com have not taken into account Android. They are using an OpenType format for fonts which is supported in Android, but apparently not the inline-base64-css way that The Verge does it.
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Great Job on the video.
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Thank you
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Was this with 4.0.3 or 4.0.2?
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Sharp75 said:
I'm impressed with the 4s performance. Faster loading times, more responsive pinch to zoom and better layout of webpages when they first loaded. I'll keep my GN but it sux to see it's not as polished as iphone/ios yet. Thanks for the video.
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I'd have to disagree with you. I've had a chance to do a lot of side by side and the Galaxy Nexus consistently loads faster than the 4s. Of course in the video I wasn't really trying to do a speed test since there are already many of those videos out. But in doing side by sides in my own time I can tell you the GNex almost always loads pages faster. It isn't a night and day type of difference. On some pages it does load significantly faster and on others just a hair faster.
As for the layout of the pages, I don't really have an issue with how either phone does the layout. I'd have to give the nod to the Galaxy Nexus however, for the fact that it shows more content, and that content is readable. On the iphone when it first loads a page, it can be very difficult to read what is on the page without squinting due to screen size issues.
Polish wise, I'm pretty impressed with the GNex's browser. I find it to be more polished and complete than that of the iphone. Yes the iphone's browser is a tad bit smoother, but that's due to it limiting what it has to render when scrolling. It doesn't allow you to scroll how you'd like. That annoys the heck out of me. I'm used to being able to manage my scrolling myself and scroll to where I want to. Instead the iphone will only allow you to scroll a predetermined amount which in turns delivers that oft mentioned "smoothness".
I own both a 4S and a Nexus.
I found stock for stock, the 4S was faster at pulling up webpages, etc. over wifi. Faster rendering on 4S basically. Scrolling mechanics are better on iPhones (as usual).
After a custom fresh rom and an overclock to the CPU at 1350mhz and the GPU oc'd to 384mhz the Nexus begins to out-speed the 4S in rendering. Scrolling mechanics still remain better on 4S of course.
It's hard for Android to compete with iOS since Apple's OS is so highly optimized for their own hardware. Google is optimized on a more global scale... Leaving not much room for an Apple-level amount of optimization.
The browser in ICS is still the best browser on Android this far. iOS' browser is amazing and hard to really topple in terms of speed and quality.
The A5 clock for clock will outright smoke the OMAP4460.
Go to any flash website, instant android win
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I own both a 4S and a Nexus.
I found stock for stock, the 4S was faster at pulling up webpages, etc. over wifi. Faster rendering on 4S basically. Scrolling mechanics are better on iPhones (as usual).
After a custom fresh rom and an overclock to the CPU at 1350mhz and the GPU oc'd to 384mhz the Nexus begins to out-speed the 4S in rendering. Scrolling mechanics still remain better on 4S of course.
It's hard for Android to compete with iOS since Apple's OS is so highly optimized for their own hardware. Google is optimized on a more global scale... Leaving not much room for an Apple-level amount of optimization.
The browser in ICS is still the best browser on Android this far. iOS' browser is amazing and hard to really topple in terms of speed and quality.
The A5 clock for clock will outright smoke the OMAP4460.
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My experiences have been almost the complete opposite of yours. 9 times out of 10 the GNex loads web pages faster than the 4S. As for the scrolling, I really am not impressed at all by the 4S' scrolling due to it being highly controlled (meaning it scrolls a predetermined distance). That is incredibly annoying to me. I hate having to swipe and swipe and swipe just to get to the bottom of a page, when on my Nexus I can get there in one swipe. Also, I don't find the iOS browser to be amazing at all. I find it to be lacking in several areas. For example, you can't even download or upload from the browser...that isn't very amazing at all. It doesn't reformat text, which means to read articles, often times you're going to have to scroll side to side in addition to vertically...that isn't very amazing either. Then of course there's the lack of flash, so you can forget about going to a site like cnn and clicking on one of the video links. All in all I find the iOS browser to be average on a good day.
How did you get the GN browser to open WITHOUT refreshing the page?? Custom rom? Having the pages reload every time I open the browser is a huge annoyance .
hahaha @ 7:58 on the video the preview image on the nexus is almost the same size as the 4s' screen . [chuckle]
To the OP, you should run this test again using the browser from 4.0.3. It has Bern further optimized and performs better.
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How did you get the GN browser to open WITHOUT refreshing the page?? Custom rom? Having the pages reload every time I open the browser is a huge annoyance .
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Mine behaves like OP's. It doesn't reload unless I've been playing a game or something in between.
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Mine behaves like OP's. It doesn't reload unless I've been playing a game or something in between.
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Could this be a difference with 4.0.2? I'm on 4.0.1 and the browser reloads no matter what... In fact all the browsers I've used do the same thing in ICS. It doesn't reload like that in Honeycomb.
Evening all,
I am a long time lurker on this forum, and I have noticed that a lot of you have got Android phones so I was after a bit of advice.
Currently, I have had the pleasure of using an iPhone 4 for the last two and a bit years. It has been a spectacular phone and with the combination of iTunes for management, it had made everything a lot easier. However, with the launch of the iPhone 5 I personally feel that the ‘enhancements’ made do not warrant the extra expenditure, so I am looking for a change.
My next phone of choice is probably going to be the Samsung Galaxy note 2; which, I have read a number of reviews and watched a variety of different YouTube videos showing its features and functionality. I was looking at buying this on a 24 month contract with 3UK but there are a few little things stopping me.
First, from the management side of things, is there anything like iTunes for the Android platform, secondly is Android as fluid as iOS as I know a few early adopters who used Android and it was one of my primary decisions to go to iOS and lastly what is the build quality like on the Samsung devices?
Thanks in advance!
Do yourself a favour and get Tunesync. It syncs your iTunes library perfectly over wifi - to this day it's the only way I know to get iTunes libraries to your phone without the album art etc screwing up.
Saying that, there's always Spotify too!
In terms of build quality, the Note 2 is a mile ahead of the S3 and has a far better screen, although the sheer size difference may make your head spin. Android runs great provided you get a custom ROM, Android revolution HD is my favourite as it's a very fine tuned version of the ROM it comes with. In fact, after the hideous iOS 6 update to my ipad 3 I'd say my Android is smoother.
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I have been offered the note 2 on three with £30 discount.
I love the way the iPhone works, but I want something that is a little different. What about app synchronisation? How is this done with android?
I'll make this short and sweet.
In terms of build quality, iphone much is better.
It terms of anything else, note 2 is better.
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I'll make this short and sweet.
In terms of build quality, iphone much is better.
It terms of anything else, note 2 is better.
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In what way is the note 2 better?
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I'll make this short and sweet.
In terms of build quality, iphone much is better.
It terms of anything else, note 2 is better.
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I totally agree you pay much more for the build quality, thats why iphones are expensive.
I have been very disappointed by the quality of the note2, let's start with the usb cable not working out of the box, a small scratch on the screen out of the box too, and a little bit deformed back cover (camera hole didn't fit perfectly).
Otherwise, I think it is a real smartphone, not a tinny cute Iphone.
How the note 2 is better? It is a computer like not a normal phone, you throw any media file in it and play it, you can use the stylus for working by writing notes on pdf files, highlighting sentences, signing docs, making plans... The extra real estate screen fot browsing Web and i mean, real browsing, not playing it cool with a 4inch toy, you can even use the stylus the way you use the mouse. And finally usb otg, just stick a usb drive and copy, cut, create docs or files or whatever you want.
I can't keep on, but as I said, you will use a smart phone for the first time in your life (if you are coming from iphones as you said) windows smartphones where very cool, but android is taking over.
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Android runs great provided you get a custom ROM, Android revolution HD is my favourite as it's a very fine tuned version of the ROM it comes with.
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I disagree, most new Android phones with ics and above run great as stock without using a new rom.
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I disagree, most new Android phones with ics and above run great as stock without using a new rom.
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+10
I don't use any custom roms. I love stock Samsung Note 2
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In what way is the note 2 better?
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-Screen size. Speaks for itself.
-Battery life. Probably the second best battery life on a smart phone, second only to RAZR MAXX.
-S-Pen(which comes with a whole set of features far too long for me to list here.)
-A lot of cool and useful features (multi Window, smart stay, smart rotation, direct call, pop up video player, pop up browser, swipe to screen shot and much more)
-Jelly bean (4.1.1) out of the box, official 4.1.2 coming soon.
-Quad core 1.6GHz processor, which is faster than iphone 5 dual core A6 processor.
-2GB ram.
- Feature rich camera. (best shot, best faces, low light, hdr, burst mode, panorama, face detection, share shot, smile detection, timer, anti shake + 12 effects + set exposure value +auto focus & macro focus etc...)
-micro sd card. Enough said. Allows you to add up to 64gb of additional storage. (64gb SanDisk card cost 40 or 50 dollars in amazon, or somewhere around that).
-removable battery, should for whatever reason the 3100mah be not enough for you, you can buy a spare one. Although you probably won't need one because like I said the battery life in this phone is amazing.
On top of my head, these things . I still haven't gone into the tens of dozens things what android can do that IOS simply can't, and I really don't want to since that'll take a lot of typing, and you can Google this stuff.
Also I strongly disagree with above who said that you NEED a custom rom. In my opinion, the stock experience in this phone is excellent and touchwiz is hugely improved than what it was before. You can get custom rom if that's you're thing, but you certainly don't need them. Only thing I'd advise anyone to do is to root their phone.
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You can mention thousand points why Note 2 is better, but the point is how many points are actually applicable in real life usage.
Anyway, replying to OP's query, well in short, NO, Android is NOT smoother or as smooth as iOS 6, in fact it is not smooth like the previous iOS, and I am talking about Jelly Bean 4.1. Well I am using both iPhone and Android/Samsung flagships for over three years now. I have never ditched my iPhone 4S for anything, but I just sold it for iPhone 5. I purchased Note 2 because I loved the S-Pen idea, the screen size. But being said that, when I scroll through my contacts, or some apps, my iPhone 5 is LOT smoother than my Note 2. Jelly Bean might have a name like 'Project butter' but iOS has the real butter.
Also, keep in mind that Android applications (Play Store) are NO MATCH for App Store. Yes, there are several crap in App Store, but more in Play Store, and the overall quality is pretty bad.
I love both my devices for several different reasons, so can't ditch either of them. And another thing about Android users you will see is their pathetic fanboys. They don't even mind a laggy, buggy, crappy device, they just want openness, now I never found out what is openness, the craze of CM ROM's maybe?
Now build quality, well boy, what can say but plastic? Well, Note 2 has all plastic. So I will not comment on it's build quality. Some kids will say glass will break easy, well lets drop both iP5 and Note 2, then see.
So, IMO, if optimization, fluidity and smoothness of OS matters to you big time then stick with iPhone 5, for all the other reasons go with Note 2, and if you have spare money to burn, then have both.
Now you see I have skipped all the cons about iOS, why? Because you know them already.
I am NOT a fanboy of either iOS or Android, I hate them.
I am used to prime-evil OSs, as over the last few years I have had a variety of devices ranging from Symbian os to windows mobile 3,4 and 5. All have their advantages and disadvantages, I loved windows mobile As it had fantastic email client support and a lot of apps (2003-2005 era) and I like Symbian for its simplicity and the devices Nokia created like the E90’ But since transitioning to the iPhone I have found a fantastic yet restrictive user experience.
The restrictiveness with apple is one of the main reasons they have created a fantastic App Store, whereas the Nokia and wimo stores back in the day were utter gash.
Do you get many problems with android apps? Do the fill the screen? I remember reading early reports that android apps were not filling the screen on some devices and on others refuse to run. This is something that would annoy me.
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Uh, let's just say in my experience compared to my other android phones, that hasn't been the case yet.
And for the record, Android revolution HD is just the stock rom that's been tweaked, just to counter the "custom rom" misinformation in this thread.
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The restrictiveness with apple is one of the main reasons they have created a fantastic App Store
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Well this is so simple to understand but some so called 'power users' are too dumb too get it
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Do you get many problems with android apps? Do the fill the screen? I remember reading early reports that android apps were not filling the screen on some devices and on others refuse to run. This is something that would annoy me.
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They fit the screen. At least the one I use, and I don't install anything I see. I first see if it's labeled as 'Top developer' or 'Editors choice', then I see the users rating. Just for an example, a good sports app, Score Mobile, labeled as Top developer, available in Play Store. I already was used to this app from my iPhone 4S. It was so smooth, so fluid in iOS, but when I use it on my Note, oh boy, I have never seen an app could lag/stutter like that. Now if this is an app labeled as 'Top Developer' then imagine the apps which are not labeled in anything.
I was an I phone user for 2 years then switched to galaxy s2 and now note 2. The I phone is idiot proof and everything just works but android is catching up. The apps are all full screen any phone and just as good as ios. The real beauty of android is if you don't like something rhen just change it. You can change anything from keyboard to launcher and widgets are a godsend. Got to say I'm really impressed with google now its spookily good, its like it can read my mind
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I switched from iPhone 4 to Note 2 in this week.
I'm very satisfied. The only problems that i have noticed are:
- Bad email clients (even those from the market. iOS Mail is much better to use)
- Bad space management (it's impossible, i have a giant 5.5" screen and Messages app is impossible to read decently with the keyboard open)
- Best app quality in iOS (Whatsapp messenger for iOS has more options, like custom ringtones for every single contact)
- Bad display quality if you not see it directly in front of you (iPhone has IPS, which is the best display for view angles)
- Some strange response when i receive a notification. If that is a SMS the phone rings, display turns on etc, if that is a mail, i receive only a notification sound, no display on. And seems that is no way to change this.
- Apps like Facebook Messenger, that has a unique notification tone on iOS, doesnt' have that particular ringtone here, but they use a default tone chosen by the user. And that is the default tone for ALL the application that doesn't permit to personalise it.
I know that there will be solutions for a lot of this things, they will be hidden somewhere but hey, it is a huge waste of time.
Besides, it is a great phone. Great sound quality, great battery, great screen and it has so powerful hardware that it results more smooth than iPhone 4. And it's Android, which means infinite personalization and possibility to use custom roms for reaching better battery life (i suppose), better personalization, better user experience.
Sorry for my english, i'm an italian user. :fingers-crossed:
Music sync can be done with either double twist and tunesync, they both mirror itunes libraries and playlists etc.
I've been a user of the iphone 4 for 2 years and the note 2 is a HUGE improvement. People that say ios never lagged are just lying lol. iOS lagged and apps crashed on my iphone several times.
From the opinion of someone thats been on both sides, I honestly could not go back to an iphone. Mainly because of the screen size of the note 2 makes iphone screens seem too small for me to use anymore. But to each his own. Its about what suits you.
Stock rom on the note 2 is fine. I only get a lag when opening the S-Note app and a slight delay when opening the contacts app. Other than that everything has run smooth even with 3 browser windows open at once and a video playing at the same time.
As for app syncing, why? lol. I never understood the point of it on iOS and always disabled it.
app quality is definitely more refined in iOS. But improving slowly on android finally.
edit: @ the guy above my post: you can change most notification tones in the individual app settings. Facebook -> menu -> settings -> notification tone
In what way is the stock email client bad? :S I find it miles ahead of the iOS email client because you can actually attach multiple files at once. Plus for me, it is easier to use. I find the iOS mail client to be garbage. But again, thats my opinion
If iOS email client is garbage then I see fanboyism again here? And no one said iOS never lagged.
Anyway, I don't wanna argue.
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If iOS email client is garbage then I see fanboyism again here? And no one said iOS never lagged.
Anyway, I don't wanna argue.
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Lol no fanboyism here. Just my opinion. I used the iphone for 2 years and the app honestly annoyed me because it felt so limited. I actually do find the stock android one better. I dont count it as fanboyism as I genuinely used both and gave both a try instead of blindly bashing one without experience.
As for the lagging. My bad, I misread one of the earlier posts. But in general I do find my friends claiming that ios never lags.
All good bro, im not looking to argue either
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@Note 2 might be too big specially if ur coming from an iPhone
3.5→5.5
I even felt the difference between s2 and s3
4.3→4.8
2 inches more straight away ! You gonna take some time for adjusting for sure !
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I would say go for nexus 4 instead it has best software and is better than iPhone 5 in terms of fluidity also it has s4 pro processor faster quad core processor presently for mobile.
Only problem is space if it doesn't bother then go for it I used nexus 4 yesterday and it is awesome a bit better than s3 overall I feel , note 2 was too big for me when I used.
I think nexus 4 was the only phone I have used and is way fluid than iPhone, note 2,galaxy s3
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I see that the discussion took a turn to android vs. ios. I guess this is inevitable in these kind of topics. Anyways, here's my take, and I've used both operating systems.
-IOS has the advantage in a number of things. For one, there are way fewer devices to worry about. After all, the IOS is exclusive to Apple devices, which you can count on your finger tips. Android, on the other hand, runs on literally hundreds of devices (a side-effect of being open-source). Naturally, this has it's advantages and disadvantages. For instance, app developers for the IOS, for instance, can make sure that their apps work flawlessly in the Iphone, with all its models, and the Ipad, with all its models, before pushing that app into the market. An advantage of using an open source OS would be that manufacturers don't have to pay for using it in their devices, and as such can offer their devices at lower prices due to lower costs. Another advantage of being open source is that each one can manipulate the system however they like to make it unique than the others and add to it whatever they want (eg: Samsung's Touchwiz, HTC's sensation).
-Google and Apple have completely different philosophies. Apple believes in a "walled garden" approach. Meaning that they'll reject any app unless it fits to their criteria. Of course, what works for Apple in this case can't work for Google. If Google rejected any app that doesn't work perfectly with all android devices, their market would be a ghost town. Consequently, an app developer in android can release an app even if it doesn't play nice with all devices. Most of them will then update it to make it as perfect as possible (at least for the popular android devices) taking into consideration user feedback. Having said that, you'll be hard pressed to find an app that doesn't run on an android device, unless that device is old/obsolete/runs on a very old version of android. To put things in perspective, I still haven't run into an app or a game that don't work well in my note 2 or doesn't fill the entire screen, the same app would work perfect in my old Galaxy S2 before I sold it, which has a much smaller screen and used to run on Android v. 2.3 (this brings me to my next point, read below).
- Largely because it is open sourced, Android is a much more flexible OS. What do I mean by this? Well, take for example the jump from 3.5" Iphones to the now new screen size 4" in the Iphone 5. Most apps in the apple store would get letterboxed until the developers update them to support the new screen size, even though the increase in screen size is only 0.5". I've yet to run into a game or an app that doesn't fill my 5.5" screen in the note 2. If there are any, and probably there are, they would be rare.
- It's difficult to go wrong with IOS because it's a bare-boned operating system (all you really have is an app drawer.. i.e: a bunch of icons on the screen). For the most, the iOS now looks exactly how it did back in 2007. Even the notification slider (which was copied from android) is nowhere as good as it is in android. If that's all you'll ever need or want, then by all means, stay with the Iphone, because you're going to get much more than that moving to Android. It hard to go wrong when you don't actually add anything major. Of course, that's not to say Apple doesn't add things. They are masters in the art of adding things (say for example, the notification slider, rejecting a call with a message, or Panorama mode in the camera) and then calling it revolutionary, notwithstanding the fact that such things existed in other OS's for years.
Like I said this could go on for pages, and it really doesn't have to. Once you understand the concept of a 'closed' system vs. an 'open' system, you'll understand the major advantages and disadvantages of each. Having understood that, you decide for yourself which one is the best one for you. For me personally, I'd rather have device that runs Froyo than one that runs the on the latest iOS 6.
I just want verification, but it seems that when scrolling through Facebook the screen lags. I noticed it with curtain websites as well. Is this more of a web site problem then the phone? Because every phone I've had lags like that.
I cannot explain this, but G3 (and every android phone) when loading anything from web in the background- makes lags when scrolling. IOS always make highest priority for UI but not android. They've been trying to 'fix' it since HTC HD2 (my first phone with android) and the answer was always 'need better hardware'- even g3 hardware is miles ahead than Iphone. Probably will take another 10 years for Google to understand that smoothest of UI is more important than anything else. This is why iPhone users won't go for android.
I've noticed this since my first quad core phone and thought with more cores phones get less lag...I was wrong. It seems that individual applications aren't as optimized for fluidity as the actual Android platform. I hope this is addressed in Androids future because our phones are so powerful these days yet apps still stutter when scrolling which is a nuisance to device use.
Try opening the Facebook app --->App Settings--->Video Auto Play--->Off
Helped smooth scrolling for me.
Perhaps Android L with the 60fps thingy may address this issue..
Thanks guys!
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I cannot explain this, but G3 (and every android phone) when loading anything from web in the background- makes lags when scrolling. IOS always make highest priority for UI but not android. They've been trying to 'fix' it since HTC HD2 (my first phone with android) and the answer was always 'need better hardware'- even g3 hardware is miles ahead than Iphone. Probably will take another 10 years for Google to understand that smoothest of UI is more important than anything else. This is why iPhone users won't go for android.
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prfraczek well personally i think your pretty much talking out your arse!
'if you had a HD2 you would have known it was winmo 6.5- as for facebook the app is crap though the browser works way better for viewing facebook.
As far as browsers go Chrome has gone from good and efficient to sub standard in my opinion?
Try dolphin browser, some of the lag issues you talk of are most likely due to html5 comparability issues found that java being removed had a big impact on browser experience.
Check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-hd2. And yes hd2 was running winmo6.5 but few months after i could port android on it. You are saying the Facebook app is crap. What about tapatalk and others? Every single is crap? But every one keeps lagging when scrolling. Chrome is fine because it load all pictures after you stop scrolling. As I say when something happening in backgroud then phone lags. Sorry. I need android due to my work otherwise... Won't troll....here.
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I've noticed this since my first quad core phone and thought with more cores phones get less lag...I was wrong. It seems that individual applications aren't as optimized for fluidity as the actual Android platform. I hope this is addressed in Androids future because our phones are so powerful these days yet apps still stutter when scrolling which is a nuisance to device use.
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prfraczek said:
I cannot explain this, but G3 (and every android phone) when loading anything from web in the background- makes lags when scrolling. IOS always make highest priority for UI but not android. They've been trying to 'fix' it since HTC HD2 (my first phone with android) and the answer was always 'need better hardware'- even g3 hardware is miles ahead than Iphone. Probably will take another 10 years for Google to understand that smoothest of UI is more important than anything else. This is why iPhone users won't go for android.
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There is no excuse for any lag whatsoever with the powerful hardware we have in these phones lately.
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There is no excuse for any lag whatsoever with the powerful hardware we have in these phones lately.
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There is an excuse for the lag. Its the 801 not being powerful enough to render the large amount of pixels required for the QHD screen.
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There is an excuse for the lag. Its the 801 not being powerful enough to render the large amount of pixels required for the QHD screen.
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But this is too heavy for 805 as well. I used to use G2 and this was to complicated for HD screen as well. And assume this is too complicated for every android phone (Galaxy S2 my girlfriend as well). Just somehow work smooth-less on every single iPhone with very slow processor 1gb of ram etc.
It could be dalvik hitting the limits. I dunno, I have nexus 7 2013 and it's very smooth on Web browsing.
Also my little tinfoil theory says that devs put more effort into iOS than android. There's plenty of evidence to support that, so it's not a stretch to assume it covers performance too.
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But this is too heavy for 805 as well. I used to use G2 and this was to complicated for HD screen as well. And assume this is too complicated for every android phone (Galaxy S2 my girlfriend as well). Just somehow work smooth-less on every single iPhone with very slow processor 1gb of ram etc.
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QHD is not too heavy for the 805,look on YouTube and find the G3 805 video by Erica Griffin where it runs smoother than the 801. The IPhone 5s is drawing below QHD AND below HD its resolution is only 1136x640!!!!!. HD is 1920x1080 and QHD is 2560 x 1440. The M8 has virtually the identical CPU and GPU as the G3 and is IPhone smooth bit its only 1920x1080. You can't put the same chip in a QHD phone and expect the same performance.
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QHD is not too heavy for the 805,look on YouTube and find the G3 805 video by Erica Griffin where it runs smoother than the 801. The IPhone 5s is drawing below QHD AND below HD its resolution is only 1136x640!!!!!. HD is 1920x1080 and QHD is 2560 x 1440. The M8 has virtually the identical CPU and GPU as the G3 and is IPhone smooth bit its only 1920x1080. You can't put the same chip in a QHD phone and expect the same performance.
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Are you talking about the S5 vs G3 video?
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It's plenty powerful enough. It's the way the OS is optimized, specifically the skin.
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I'm no trying to say that hardware is bad because in my opinion it's amazing. There is no excuses for hardware. Tha issue is 'android' optimization which is mileas away from ios. And google need to do something asap. I love android and I'm sure if someone could port ios on to this phone this could be the fastest and smoothness phone ever. Of course won't talk about ios limitations (I'm not fan of apple). So google stop complaing about hardware or similar and optimize your system. Then I'm sure apple stores becomes an empty stores hahaha
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It's plenty powerful enough. It's the way the OS is optimized, specifically the skin.
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The hardware isn't up to it.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YCpcEtokiJ0
I run Uber/Lyft both at the same time in the background and it severely throttles the 5X. To the point where it's not even useable and I miss rides. I've checked the memory in the settings and the ram is maxed out when running both apps.
I did not have this problem with the previous Nexus 6. Occasionally it would take a second when responding to a ride request and switching off the other app, but nothing like the 5X. This is really disappointing because I like the design of the 5X more than the 6P and I was a Nexus 5 owner in the past.
This leaves me no choice, but to spend the extra $100 on the 6P. Any other Uber/Lyft drivers to chime in?
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Do you have any more apps running in the background?
You can check what is running under developer options -> running services
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Lord Yurij said:
Do you have any more apps running in the background?
You can check what is running under developer options -> running services
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Not really. Just mostly system apps (System, Google Play) and Facebook take up most of the usage. But when I have Uber and Lyft both running at the same time, there's only about 100MB free RAM.
I'd talk to the developers of both apps - sounds like the apps have memory leak issues or could at least be optimised for a friendlier RAM footprint.
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I'd talk to the developers of both apps - sounds like the apps have memory leak issues or could at least be optimised for a friendlier RAM footprint.
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Yeah that's a good suggestion. Lyft seems to use fair amount more than Uber and it also runs in the background longer.
Only around 2% of android users run marshmallow. Developers are very slow on optimizing for the new version because such a small user base is actually on it. That's the only issue the nexus line ever runs into due to being on the bleeding edge of software.
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Only around 2% of android users run marshmallow. Developers are very slow on optimizing for the new version because such a small user base is actually on it. That's the only issue the nexus line ever runs into due to being on the bleeding edge of software.
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Yeah, that makes sense. It's more frustrating though with billion dollar companies that don't find it important to have their developers update the apps when there's a new OS update.
I love android but this is a huge reason why iOS has a huge advantage over android. They update all devices seamlessly. Developers update apps to work on newest iOS immediately, and most work on phone and tablet. Their software has that advantage for sure. Android is more fun, but still such a beta feel to it. The more they improve, the more they seem to ruin
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