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Why would anyone choose an iPhone

Hi Everyone,
Tell me, why would anyone actually choose an iPhone over a Desire/N1?
As I see it, the only thing an iPhone has over the Desire is the volume of apps, but can you give me a list of what the Desire/N1 has over the iPhone?

Speaking as someone who has had WinMo, Nokias etc. I can honestly say that my iPhone 3GS is the best device I have ever had. User interface is functional and simple and I can find an app for everything - plus the apps are mature. JB adds a new level to it, and provides the customisability that I love to do.
What I don't like about the iPhone is the restrictive nature of it, with the extreme control that Apple has. Ofc i have jailbroken the iPhone but Apple are making it increasingly harder to do this and I fear we are not far away from them making it near impossible to do so (hell you already have a situation with the newest phones having a tethered jb - i.e. they need to re-jb if their phone loses power, or is rebooted).
That being said, and my heart being in Linux land, my next phone will hopefully be the HTC Desire. I love the customisability of Android, the less restrictive nature, and for someone like me, I reckon i'll get more fun out of it.
The Desire's hardware beats a 3GS hand down. Android is getting there but is not as mature (obviously) as the iPhone OS, and nor are its Apps. But they are getting there. The Desire is a good enough handset that in a years time, Android really will be competing with the iPhone and your hardware will still be capable.
My wife will get the iPhone....

because the iPhone has the best apps. when it comes down to it, that's all the average smartphone user cares about...

orlandojumpoff said:
because the iPhone has the best apps. when it comes down to it, that's all the average smartphone user cares about...
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And that's the discussion I keep having with my mates. With the Desire's hardware and Eclair+Sense, the only real thing that the stock iPhone 3GS has going for it now is the apps. My argument there is that once a developer has perfected their app on/for the iPhone they'll likely(/hopefully) then be seeking the challenge, and the revenue(?), from launching it on the Android Market. The Desire's/N1's/Droid's hardware specs and Eclair's open customizability and capability would then allow them to take it to the next level.

1. Better UI controls. Android has great homescreens but when it comes to app UI controls, it lags behind Android.
2. More and Better casual applications. Many more games. Can be purchased around the world in 70+ countries. Much more free/promotion games compared to Android.
3. Better camera than the camera of most Androids.

A couple of things the Desire has going for it vs the iPhone:
*Camera: 5MP w/ flash vs 3MP w/o flash
*Screen resolution: 800x480 vs 480x320
*Battery: I can't back this up but I'm guessing the AMOLED display will drain less juice than the iPhone's traditional backlit LCD. Also, removable battery is always better than non-removable.
*Multi-tasking vs no multi-tasking
*Non-obstructive notications
*Useful information on homescreen vs just a bunch of icons
*File explorer
*Text reflow in browser
*Hardware buttons!

On Iphone run a Graphic Engine. Android can runs only a java application.

Luthermax said:
On Iphone run a Graphic Engine. Android can runs only a java application.
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what? This post makes no sense what so ever.
you mean it has a GPU? And are you implying that android phones do not have one?
Maybe you should read up on programming for android:
http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html

JTHM said:
Tell me, why would anyone actually choose an iPhone over a Desire/N1?
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I went from Nexus One to iPhone 3G S because of iPhone has much better quality apps. Apps make sense as they are thoughtfully designed and hence are easy to use unlike some Android applications which have every feature under the sun but are unintuitive. A good example of this is Astrid.
The good news is 2Do developer have confirmed they are working on 2Do port for Android. Then you will all understand what I am trying to say.
Also, iPhone has much much better games then Android.

raven2000 said:
I went from Nexus One to iPhone 3G S because of iPhone has much better quality apps. Apps make sense as they are thoughtfully designed and hence are easy to use unlike some Android applications which have every feature under the sun but are unintuitive. A good example of this is Astrid.
The good news is 2Do developer have confirmed they are working on 2Do port for Android. Then you will all understand what I am trying to say.
Also, iPhone has much much better games then Android.
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I just find the iphone very limited, I've had the 3GS for a month and I'm terribly bored of it. The only reason I still use it over my old touch pro is because it's faster for web browsing.
Android sounds like the kind of OS I want, very customizable very flexable.

orlandojumpoff said:
because the iPhone has the best apps. when it comes down to it, that's all the average smartphone user cares about...
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Exactly I love the apps and games I got on my Ipod touch but I wouldn't buy an Iphone cause I dont like that Att crappy service.

All hardware aside, you have to approach this as a standard customer. Said customer buys into what marketing sells; buys into all the hype generated around the fanboys spread across the internet; buys what they are told to buy.
Because of the market saturation, apps developed for the iphonepods will be more cared for and mature a lot faster. Facebook is a prime example of this. If you don't use facebook then this example is lost on you The iphone has a fantastic fbook app that keeps you in the app and offers almost all the same functionality as you would find in a desktop browser; almost. Fbook on android however...not even close. This is a deal breaker for those who live and die with fbook.
So you have a bajillion apps being sold every second in apple's app store generating a ****ton of revenue for all involved giving people reason to create solid apps. There is some pretty solid DRM involved (though not unbreakable ) preventing app piracy which leaves the devs with a peace of mind.
Now take the android world. While android is found on more devices now than I could possibly think of, the average user would never know it. There is no advertising (well nothing compared to the viral campaigning apple has successfully pulled off), no customer draw...android is, for the most part, word of mouth.
So with the above in mind, the numbers just are not there for developers to devote a ton of time into making apps comparable to what you will find on the iphone...not yet anyways.
App protection is another biggie. So with both platforms you require the device to be unlocked/rooted in order to get around this. With the android platform it's a bit easier; once you have root, you have free apps. With the iphone it's a bit trickier but still very doable; one layer beyond simply rooting (jailbreaking). Don't kid yourself if you think devs are not aware of this.
Thankfully, the majority of users on both platforms don't use their powers for evil or we would see a serious drop in apps I bet.
So why would anyone choose an iphone? Apps and itunes.
Apps are a big deal; they are a means to keep in touch with friends and family, they are a means to get unlost, to get lost, to waste time, to save time...the better the app, the more efficient you can do all of these tasks.
People want to carry their music with them. Love it or hate it, itunes is here to stay and a ton of people have fully entrusted their music to itunes. an iphone means everything in itunes is easily synced.
Personally, I went from dumbphones to winmo (moto Q on verizon) to the g1 (t-mobile) and never returned to winmo. I switched to att from tmo and without really thinking about it, I gave my g1 to a friend in favour of an iphone3g. I should have just kept my g1 on edge on att...now while still on att, I am happily back to android with my nexus one. For me, everything stated above carries zero weight in value compared to the freedom I have with my n1.
...thursday rants are fun

Simply because Average Joe (or Jane for my part) doesn't read XDA

I think the more appropriate question is "Why would anyone choose the iPhone?".
Consider this scenario:
You're playing a casual game and listening to your music at the same time. You want to change to another playlist. You can't even do that without completely exiting your game.
I can't fathom using a supposedly smart device that can't even handle that simple of a multi-task.

I think the reason why iphone is still a big winner is only because of the apps and games.
Do u guys think good apps make a good OS?
Why Windows is still now the most popular OS?

Daemos said:
I just find the iphone very limited, I've had the 3GS for a month and I'm terribly bored of it. The only reason I still use it over my old touch pro is because it's faster for web browsing.
Android sounds like the kind of OS I want, very customizable very flexable.
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I have had a variety of smartphones from Blackberrys, to Android. My android phones are by far the best ones. I have up my iphone and ordered the G1 for the original release date. Even though at that time it was not on the same level as the Iphone it opened the door for us to have phones like the Nexus One, Desire, Legend, Moto Droid...ect.....tons of phones that give us choices. My Nexus one out the box was amazing, rooting the thing made it even more ridiculous.

As many of you have said previously, the only thing that I can see is better on iPhone than on Desire / Nexus is the Games, so I do not understand yet why you pay so much more if you buy this just for games? why not buy an iPod if you want the games/mp3.

Because its the trendy thing to buy.
I brought an ipod touch when they first came out. I was sick of it within a day. The apps are pretty well junk or gimmicks, I brought a ton of them never use them.
Games yeah right, maybe sitting in the car waiting for someone but really there crap and you are better off just getting on the net and reading XDA
There also to big to put in your pocket and use as an mp3 player.
But good on apple for marketing to the sheep so well and there about to do it again with the ipad!

Hi ,
I had HTC HD , and now i am on my way to buy a new Phone.
I wont buy 3GS , because in 3 months we will have a new Iphone , so that will be sucky sucky. on the other hand - if i pay so much for a phone i want to be able to play on it , and i saw some tests , showing Iphone has much more FPS in games.
is it a GPU thing ? if so , why would i buy the Desire.
currently this is the only thing -
if Desire had good games with good quality 3D and nice FPS . no reason to even consider 3GS or any iPhone .

Hardware (processor speed) comparisons are simply "wrong". Numbers on paper mean nothing because the OS software are not the same. Don't know why people don't get this...
That video that idandush referred is a good example.

What makes the Nexus better than the iPhone?

You guys are dropping some serious cash on the Nexus, and for serious cash, I expect there must be serious reasons. What makes the Nexus better than the 4S, for you? I don't just want to hear blanket statements like "more customizability," I'm looking for specific things that effect how you use your phone day-to-day, in a positive way. (hey, it rhymes)
I don't own a GN, but here's some reasons I can think of switching:
-I can turn off annoying animations
-hi-res screen, shows more content
-bigger screen
-no physical buttons
-I can turn off the lock screen
-loads webpages faster
-slightly better browser tabs
-widgets. They'd be slightly helpful
-Flash, for when I need it
-file system. This is kinda crippled now, but whatever.
-better YouTube app
-better Gmail support
-better Google maps
I figure I'll mention the cons, too...
-worse camera
-not as smooth
-no 100% reliable, native syncing for my photos and music
-no comparable suite to iWorks
-less app selection
-bad battery life
-no good solution for security if I lose my phone. Find My iPhone is pretty sweet.
What about you? I'm hoping to hear about some things I didn't think about. Part of me really wants to get the Nexus.

Yumunum said:
You guys are dropping some serious cash on the Nexus, and for serious cash, I expect there must be serious reasons. What makes the Nexus better than the 4S, for you? I don't just want to hear blanket statements like "more customizability," I'm looking for specific things that effect how you use your phone day-to-day, in a positive way. (hey, it rhymes)
I don't own a GN, but here's some reasons I can think of switching:
-I can turn off annoying animations
-hi-res screen, shows more content
-bigger screen
-no physical buttons
-I can turn off the lock screen
-loads webpages faster
-slightly better browser tabs
-widgets. They'd be slightly helpful
-Flash, for when I need it
-file system. This is kinda crippled now, but whatever.
-better YouTube app
-better Gmail support
-better Google maps
I figure I'll mention the cons, too...
-worse camera
-not as smooth
-no 100% reliable, native syncing for my photos and music
-no comparable suite to iWorks
-less app selection
-bad battery life
-no good solution for security if I lose my phone. Find My iPhone is pretty sweet.
What about you? I'm hoping to hear about some things I didn't think about. Part of me really wants to get the Nexus.
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I had a 4S and I honestly didn't like it. I don't like the way it handles multitasking or really anything about it. I guess I am also accustomed to larger screens having had a few 4.3" phones before this and the iPhone. My 4S had absolute **** battery life so this is an improvement and it's not bad at all. I don't know where you got that we have no security apps like find my iPhone because we have a dozen or so that work just as well if not better. Documents to go is reliable for when I need to make a quick edit on the go. I find my nexus to be just as smooth as the 4S I had as well. Also in terms of less app selection.. we have most of the big names
Hope this helps quell some of your fears a little
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because it's not apple. Setting up apps and.screen is lot better over the good old setup. Hw acceleration finally. Bigger screen. Not apple. Higher res. Better sound. And I get great battery life. What you talking about Willis?
And the no. 1 reason is dev support. They pick up where Google and Samsung don't and then some. And some more. Thanks devs without you guys we'd eat more apples.
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I haven't had an issue with battery life ever since phone started coming with micro usb. One of the reasons I didn't buy an iPhone is the proprietary usb, with GN (or any other android phone) everywhere you go has a charger.
That and it's a phone with a large screen, I'm not going to quibble over a few hours difference in battery life. It either lasts a month on 1 charge or I need a charger everywhere I go....
My main beef with iPhone is the connectivity, I need iTunes and not just on any computer but an authorised one. I use a lot of computers so that's out...
Apps, camera, OS, battery life its all the same more or less. Like comparing Mercedes to BMW.
The other feature I can't live without is Google Navigation, even though you can download an app on iPhone that does the same, having it fully integrated with Google Map is very useful. I use Google Maps like Yellow Pages now....
The search is also a lot more useful with ICS (wont be GN only feature soon) as it combines searching for apps/music/files on your phone with google search.
All this will be on any ICS phone/tablet, not just GN. So it's not really GN vs iPhone, its ICS vs iOS5.
Oh and another nice feature is having multiple accounts in Market. So if you want your wife/girlfriend to have the same purchased app/game you don't have to buy it twice.

I won't go into a device comparison, but here's what I like about the Nexus/Android:
- Super Amoled HD Screen
- Pentaband & Unlocked
- Widgets and customizability
- Scrolling and/or Live Wallpaper
- Replaceable Battery
- Faster data speeds on AT&T (For my location)
- The best web browsing experience on a mobile device...PERIOD. If you goto Settings->Labs and select Quick Controls and Fullscreen...it's a whole different experience. Full HD screen is used to browse and it's buttery smooth
- I prefer ICS's Task Manager MUCH MUCH better than iOS. It's quick to hit a button and swipe on the android vs. double table, hit small x's and scroll.
- Voice Guided Directions via Google Maps (Improved over previous versions)
- Face Unlock
- Better youtube
- Camera isn't as good as the iPhone, but IMO the app and shutter speed make up for it.
- Syncs beautifully with iTunes with iSyncr app!
- People always bring up selection of apps, or lack thereof as a bad thing. While there are some titles missing from the market, there are apps available that you would never be able to download on the app store. For example mp3 downloads, bit torrent remotes, etc.
- Type as you speak voice recognition
- I find the battery life equal, if not better than the iPhone 4S
- Free mobile hotspot (Don't abuse her)
- NFC
- Built in data usage tracker and limiter. Perfect for those on data caps. Also displays what apps are hogging
- Notice a killer app on the Market only to find out it's garbage after the purchase? 15 min refund window!
Don't like compared to the iPhone...
- Build quality is good but the quality of materials could be better
- Speaker sucks
- Front facing camera may have more pixels, but looks like crap compared to the 4s
- I miss iTunes Match, iCloud and Photostream
Don't get me wrong, the 4S is a sweet device and I've used a ton of Android phones in the past, but the Nexus w/ICS is a whole different ballgame. My Nexus and iPad 2 are a match made in heaven.

I switched from an iPhone 4S to a Galaxy Nexus (and a Galaxy Note between).
First of all I like Apple products, I use an iMac and a MacBook Air for work and have owned iPhones, iPods and iPads. They are usually well designed and do the job at least as well as competitors and yes there is a premium to pay for that and I have always thought that worth paying extra for.
But for me the iPhone 4S was a major disappointment. I had seen some of the renderings of possible designs and they looked exciting but what we got was a revamp of the iPhone 4 with new notifications and Siri.
I still bought one as I like to have the latest tech but after you realise that Siri is a gimmick that last 10 minutes and is then redundant and the pull down notification system has been perfected by Android 100 phones ago, then the same old IOS niggles surfaced.
For me the first time I used the Galaxy Nexus I thought 'this is better'. ICS is smooth and runs quickly on the Nexus out of the box. I have owned virtually all the top smartphones and my one gripe about Android is that to get the very best out of the phone I have to visit XDA and start updating and tweaking.
My main reasons for switching away from the iPhone were lack of Flash support and screen size. So I bought a Galaxy Note and was blown away but the size was just a little too large and when I read up about the Nexus I just had to have one. I can wait a month or so for Flash but otherwise I don't think I have ever been happier with a phone.

Yumunum said:
You guys are dropping some serious cash on the Nexus, and for serious cash, I expect there must be serious reasons. What makes the Nexus better than the 4S, for you? I don't just want to hear blanket statements like "more customizability," I'm looking for specific things that effect how you use your phone day-to-day, in a positive way. (hey, it rhymes)
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Keep in mind that not everyone here is buying it outright for $600+, and keep in mind that a lot of people here wouldn't even consider an iPhone instead of Android in general. This post sounds a bit like flame bait, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
My personal reasons are as follows:
Screen: Not just quality (AMOLED), but size. Ever since I had my Samsung Captivate, holding an iPhone has just felt wrong. Everything feels tiny on the iPhone, watching movies is a significantly worse experience etc.
OS: In a nutshell, I prefer Android to iOS. The notification system is better, the multitasking is better (especially in ICS), the OS gives me more options and doesn't hold my hand telling me I'll break my phone if I'm given any more freedoms.
Widgets: Falls in line with OS, but deserves its own category. Why the hell does iOS not have widgets yet? Why don't I have glanceable data on my homescreens such as weather, calendar, and RSS feeds? This is the killer app for me as far as Android is concerned. iOS simply does not compare.
iTunes: I hate it. Especially on PC. I don't like Apple's music format, I don't like being forced to sync content as opposed to drag and drop, and I don't like how iTunes on PC is so badly coded that it completely freezes up and becomes unresponsive while syncing. Something like iTunes should be optional at best.
TV out: the iPhone simply doesn't have it. Connecting my phone to my TV to output youtube videos, emulated SNES, PS1 etc. games, and pictures is a huge boon for the GN. Yes there are alternatives, no they are not as simple as "connect a cable and the picture literally pops up the next second".
General freedom: No emulators or inappropriate content on the iOS market. Yeah, I don't put porn on my phone, but the next guy may want to and he should be able to do so freely without a company scrutinizing his morals. The Android market allows virtually anything as long as it's legal.
Programming freedom: In the same vein as the above, iOS is extremely locked down. There are no custom ROMs, there's no system level tweaking.
As far as drawbacks go:
Camera: Let's face it. The iPhone 4S' camera is best in class. Yes the GN's is faster, but for sheer quality iPhone simply wins hands down.
Touch response: This one may be a bit subjective, but every time I pick up an iPhone I marvel a bit at how smooth it is. Yes ICS is smooth, but I don't feel that it's quite at the same level.
Applications: For sheer quantity, Android is getting there. Quality however, is just now starting to pick up. More triple A developers are starting to realize that Android is a force to be reckoned with, so this is one that will fix itself in time. For the time being however iOS' app selection is simply better.
GPS: Every iPhone I've tried locks instantaneously indoors to a 10-15 meter radius. Every Android phone takes 5 seconds to forever to do the same. It's a minor gripe at best since the GN's GPS is pretty good but it's still technically worse.
That's about all I've got. Also OP, you'll be pleased to know that Android also has a variation of "Find my iPhone". "Where's my Droid" does basically the same thing.

I thought of getting an iPhone but then I took an arrow to the knee
I don't own a GN, but here's some reasons I can think of switching:
-I can turn off annoying animations
-hi-res screen, shows more content
-bigger screen
-no physical buttons
-I can turn off the lock screen
-loads webpages faster
-slightly better browser tabs
-widgets. They'd be slightly helpful
-Flash, for when I need it
-file system. This is kinda crippled now, but whatever.
-better YouTube app
-better Gmail support
-better Google maps
I figure I'll mention the cons, too...
-worse camera
-not as smooth
-no 100% reliable, native syncing for my photos and music
-no comparable suite to iWorks
-less app selection
-bad battery life
-no good solution for security if I lose my phone. Find My iPhone is pretty sweet.
First off, I'll say that I don't own a G_Nex... yet. I have also thought long and hard about making the jump to the iphone and the other side but a few things have kept me back. And this is my experience with a Droid Incredible which came out early last year so It's based off of an old device with outdated software.
First, I hate iTunes, with a passion. If you like it, cool but I have had such a hard time moving all my media from windows media to itunes I finally gave my ipod away. I'm sure it's a much less stressful endeavor with a Mac but I don't have one of those either so... It just seems way easier to use windows media for me
As far as the camera. I haven't seen it in my hand but there are a few iPhone4s/G-Nex picture comparison and from what I can tell it doesn't look very different. I say that the SGN does have some advantages over the iPhone with the no-lag feature and panoramic photos but that is just opinion. my camera is outdated but like everyone says your not gonna blow up an 8mp photo to put on your wall, it just doesn't make sense.
I don't use it personally but HTC sense has an onlive service similar to Find My iPhone, but without an HTC device your options are limited to apps like Lookout Mobile Security which you can disable everything except for the GPS service so you don't have annoying popups everytime you download an app. I believe they are also apps that can wipe your phone remotely in case your worried about your personal info.
Although I feel like Sense on HTC is just as smooth as an iPhone I've seen the lag and jerkiness of other devices. that said, I think if you check out some YouTube vids of the G-Nex you'll see that there is nothing but smooth butter on 4.0
I agree as far as the battery life goes. sometimes I can go 6hrs before my phone dies but I've settled on the idea that I will need a charger with me everywhere I go work/home/school. But there is a big reason for this: Android does so many other things in the background compared to iPhone. widgets, live wallpapers, etc... look at the animations on a new HTC device with the 3D widgets. it takes a ton of battery to keep all that running and running smooth. Also with the introduction of 4G the battery technology just hasn't caught up with it yet. but give it time.
One thing I will say about iPhone is the quality of apps are way better than Android, but it will not be that way forever. app developers are wanting to make money and if they can expand to another platform they will. There are only a very few app devs that are brand loyal and there are more and more devs porting there apps to Android every day.
To me, Apple did a great job in making a great phone and marketing it to the masses when it first came out. However, there are still a ton of flaws in their ideals. they want to make things simpler but unless you already have a Mac you will struggle. And they don't want to change it because they know most people will get frustrated and just go buy a Mac which makes them more money. and that is something I can't get with.
last but not least I will ask, who's idea was it to design a phone incased in glass anyway? I mean the only way you could've made it anymore fragile is if you made all the componets inside the out of glass as well. I mean really?!

Bad battery life...it is really bad. and also bad reception.
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native syncing for my photos and music - The camera app on the GN can auto matically sync your photos to google+ if you want it to. Also google music can sync your music from the cloud thus meaning you dont have gig's and gig's of storage taken up on your phone.

First of all, generally speaking the main reason that pulled me away from Apple (I had a 3GS) and towards Android was widgets. It might be a minor thing for most people, but I really really love having them on my screen. It just makes things so much easier and faster to accomplish.
Now, focussing on the Galaxy Nexus specifically, the biggest plusses for me where those two:
- The combination of a large AMOLED-screen and the top-notch resolution which takes care of all the "Pentile"-drama that was going on.
- Direct updates through Google (I know, it's the same with Apple, but no other current Android handset offers this, and since your question aimed at why we spend so much money on the GN: This is the main reason why I picked the GN over a Moto or an HTC)
And that's basically it. Mind you, I was almost going to buy the Moto RAZR instead of the Nexus, because I am not a fan of handsets made entirely of plastic shells. But in the end I dismissed the Razr, mainly because of the "Software Update"-reason mentioned above. I could have lived with the lower-res display.
Of course, there are dozens of other reasons why I pick Android over iOS (open platform, costumizability, direct filesystem-access, etc. etc. blah blah), but you probably know them already anyway, so I'm not gonna repeat here once again
Both Android and iOS have their advantages and disadavantages, my take on this is that you should first decide which ECOSYSTEM is better suited for your personal needs and usecases, and after that decide on the actual hardware you're going to buy. Getting a new phone is quickly done, making everything run after an OS transition is much more of a headache (starting with the money one spent on all the apps that become rendered useless the moment you change sides)

only things I miss from my iphone 4 so far are
battery life
quick gps locking
HBO GO!

Screen is beautifull. I just got mine and i Love IT!!
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Yumunum said:
You guys are dropping some serious cash on the Nexus, and for serious cash, I expect there must be serious reasons. What makes the Nexus better than the 4S, for you? I don't just want to hear blanket statements like "more customizability," I'm looking for specific things that effect how you use your phone day-to-day, in a positive way. (hey, it rhymes)
I don't own a GN, but here's some reasons I can think of switching:
-I can turn off annoying animations
-hi-res screen, shows more content
-bigger screen
-no physical buttons
-I can turn off the lock screen
-loads webpages faster
-slightly better browser tabs
-widgets. They'd be slightly helpful
-Flash, for when I need it
-file system. This is kinda crippled now, but whatever.
-better YouTube app
-better Gmail support
-better Google maps
I figure I'll mention the cons, too...
-worse camera
-not as smooth
-no 100% reliable, native syncing for my photos and music
-no comparable suite to iWorks
-less app selection
-bad battery life
-no good solution for security if I lose my phone. Find My iPhone is pretty sweet.
What about you? I'm hoping to hear about some things I didn't think about. Part of me really wants to get the Nexus.
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What do you define as comparable to iWorks? Personally I preferred QuickOffice on my ipad and android also has that.
Besides games I have yet to find an app I need not on the market.
There exist some security things in the market. Don't know how well they work but they are there.
Some pros for the nexus
- custom ROMs do more with your phone nor just what apple tells you
- third party sync with contacts such as Google+ twitter and eventually Facebook when they update the syncing for ics
I came from an iPhone to an atrix before my nexus and I will never go back. It's a personal choice but I like the freedom of android.
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Yumunum said:
I figure I'll mention the cons, too...
-worse camera - Want a better camera, by a SLR, its a phone remember...
-not as smooth - No i find it smooother
-no 100% reliable, native syncing for my photos and musicPersonal preference, i find the syncing very good for mail, photos, contacts, music. The Music sync infact is amazing. I can access my music collection on ANY flash enable browser!
-no comparable suite to iWorks Really, your going to work on the 4.6" screen on documents, spreadsheets? buy a galaxy note, galaxy 10.1 or if you want iWorks, buy an Ipad or Mac!
-less app selection But also the app market is managed by the apple sheep so you actually have access to more apps which are banned on the apple store on the android market
-bad battery life Manage it better then! Its because you can customize everything on an android battery can drain so quickly, if you could do the same on an iphone as you can on an android im sure the iphone wouldnt last 10 hours!
-no good solution for security if I lose my phone. Find My iPhone is pretty sweet. Google an alternative.... like https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mango.findmyphone&hl=en. Also you can encrypt your phone, which is stronger than any solution done by apple at the moment
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Come on, really its down to personal preference. Every pro can be argued with a con, and vice versa
A big plus for me is accessing the app store in a browser!

I'm unclear why the OP said we were dropping serious cash for the nexus, and then proceeded to ask why it's better than the 4S, they are the same price, so what gives?

I'll be the odd one out, this is why I sold my Galaxy Nexus and kept my iPhone 4S:
- I find iOS notifications to be better. Sure, swap to discard is a lot better than the tiny "Clear" button on iOS, but being able to see pending notifications on the lockscreen is a lot better than having to reach up and pull down the list. I never managed to find a working solution to get the same function on ICS. Also iOS categorizes them per app, which I like. I also love push notifications and there's really just one twitter app that does it on Android, and its just not a very good app.
- Browsing. Sorry, but I find the ICS browser to not be very good. Sure, it's fast, but Google still treats pages like a desktop browser and text is TINY when zoomed out. iOS picks up what text is important and increases its size so it's readable on most websites without having to zoom in. Also, double tapping to zoom on Android zooms to the general area you want, but will usually cut off text or images. iOS somehow manages to fit the window exactly to the paragraph you want.
- Battery life. Yes, the 4S is famous for not lasting very long, but at least I don't have to worry about what colors im displaying on it because white will burn the battery out faster than black. With SAMOLED (I've had a Galaxy S, Galaxy S 2 and the Nexus) I always found myself worrying about using apps with mostly a black background.
- Screen. I want to lick the Galaxy Nexus screen, really, it looks amazing. Except when I look at slight dark pictures, where the extreme contrast and black levels will degrade and oversaturate colors. Also PenTile, while less noticeable is still there and makes text look horrible at small sizes. Watching HD video on it was an orgasmic experience, but I honestly never watch movies or series on my phone so I just wouldn't have taken advantage of it.
- Speaker. Its bad, really bad, and positioned in a place where setting the phone on a sofa or any other soft surface will muffle it. Volume+ on the market fixes the problem mostly, but still sounds like a low quality speaker.
- Apps. I love the ICS UI, I love how the google apps look on the GNexus, but I HATE how most third party apps look and function on ICS. Yes, I realize this will change in time, but just picking the iPhone and opening Tweetbot or Whatsapp and seeing how much smoother they were compared to similar apps on ICS made me angry.
- Camera. Photos look pretty good in daylight, but it breaks apart easily when light is low. Mushy colors, no sharpness. I love the 4S camera.
- Size. This one I guess is more personal than the others. I found it to be slighty larger than I like and had to flex my hand too much to use it one handed most of the time.
- Smoothness. ICS has hardware acceleration, fine, and it works most of the time, sure, but it's really noticeable when it's not there and really inconsistent to have it be completely smooth in some areas and really stuttery in others. I guess this will get better over time, but I like having this work "out of the box". iOS is smooth 95% of the time.
I'm not dissing the GNexus, I find it to be the best android phone to date and I really love most of what Google has done to android. However, after more than a year owning several android handsets and then buying the 4S I remembered how pain-free the iOS experience is, and I realized I spent more time changing ROMs and customizing android than I did enjoying it and using apps.
I never had a need for a real filesystem, I have no issues with iTunes and I don't feel limited by iOS' restrictions, though I understand if most of you do. I'll probably go back to android with the Galaxy S3 or whatever, and I guess everything will be more mature by then, but right now I'm happy with my 4S and it suits my needs better than the Gnex did.

For some reason when you own an iphone you start wearing turtlenecks and people start calling you a pretentious douche.

-Flash, for when I need it // Nexus Doesn't support flash...yet
-file system. This is kinda crippled now, but whatever. //Why? Works just like it has on my other Androids?
-worse camera // It's as good as the person using it.. my iPhone wasn't that great.
-not as smooth // Depends on what you have running unlike the iPhone that just randomly shuts apps off.
-no 100% reliable, native syncing for my photos and music //This is why I quit iPhones Itunes is a joke takes fooooorever to sync the it duplicates and deletes... just drag and drop...simple.
-no comparable suite to iWorks // There are many office apps most are the same ones in the app store.
-less app selection // seems like both stores have pretty much the same ones and the billion junk apps
-bad battery life // If you run the screen and skype and video... guess what iPhone or android the battery drains.....The iphone will win not because it has better battery life but because it will quit skype force the screen off and stop the video because it knows what you want better than you do.
I have had every IOS device except the 4S... so I don't dislike them but I do dislike lists like this... Because you really should try out Android (especially ICS) and formulate your opinion. Because its not just about the hardware its about changing from my phone knows best I just expect the battery to last.... To taking the time to set it to do exactly what you want it to....and yes if you have 50 apps running the battery WILL die a quick death...lol

The difference and what makes it better is easy. I am in no way bashing the iPhone. I own it and love all apple products. Here are the facts iPhone is a place that houses all your apps the SN is a OS with apps.

Is galaxy nexus worth buying?

Im standing in a delimma rught now. Im about to choose between galaxy nexus and iphone 4s.
I dont want to hear which phone is better i want to hear about the galaxy nexus, how it feels in your hand, smoothnes etc etc.
This is not another which phone is better thread.
Thabk you
Best regards
Elinho
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GSM? The phone feels great in the hand because it is light for how big it is. It is kind of slick and will take getting used to if you have never had a phone this big but it shouldn't be too much of a problem.. the screen is good for most people when above 20% brightness. Some people lag on the stock rom but most don't have any problems on custom roms or the latest stock rom. Also battery life for the most part is great.
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Size wise I feel the Nexus is small, and no way too big at all. But I had the Epic 4G Touch with 4.5" screen, the Nexus feels smaller.
Build quality is very high, the metal band around it feels solid, and the dark gray color makes it look like a stealth fighter jet. Does not feel like cheap plastic on the Galaxy SII.
High Res screen is on par with "Retina" but with a million times better color.
ICS software is a huge leap forward for Android, makes it more mature and polished and better design over last year Androids.
iPhone LOL 3.5" screen
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I have been an iphone user for years and after spending some time using the Nexus I sold my iphone 4s to buy the Nexus. You will not be unhappy with either but the Nexus is hands down a more up to date and distinguished device for me.

Play with them both and see which appeals more to you. I was an iPhone user for 4 years until I got my Galaxy Nexus and I couldn't go back. That said, the 4S is still a very good phone and definitely has a place. It gets better battery life and has a nicer app selection, but the screen is small, you're much more limited in terms of modification/customization/app and service integration, and I feel like iOS is starting to show it's age.
I love the Nexus' huge screen, I think the design of the phone itself is nicer, and I like ICS way more than iOS.

Zorachus said:
Size wise I feel the Nexus is small, and no way too big at all. But I had the Epic 4G Touch with 4.5" screen, the Nexus feels smaller.
Build quality is very high, the metal band around it feels solid, and the dark gray color makes it look like a stealth fighter jet. Does not feel like cheap plastic on the Galaxy SII.
High Res screen is on par with "Retina" but with a million times better color.
ICS software is a huge leap forward for Android, makes it more mature and polished and better design over last year Androids.
iPhone LOL 3.5" screen
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There is no metal band..... that said it still feels like a good quality phone.
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Ex-wife has iPhone 4S and I, the GNexus. No comparison. I feel bad for the ex, with that 3.5" LOL display, and no me. ;-)
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Thank you for the replys!
The galaxy nexus here in sweden is expensive. But im considering getting galaxy
Edit: i forgott, the ics dont have autocorrect for swedish lang :/
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Without a case, it's great in the hands. Even with a case it's fine depending on which one though.
But holding it raw is wonderful. The screen is absolutely amazing. Text is so crisp I almost sometimes prefer using it over my tablet! The keyboard is amazing in portrait, because of the size I can type REALLY fast and get almost no errors.
Everything is smooth too. My friend who has had an Evo 4g for a while was amazed at how smooth animations and everything else are compared to his phone.
I have unlimited 4g from Verizon and it is blazing too.

elinho said:
Im standing in a delimma rught now. Im about to choose between galaxy nexus and iphone 4s.
I dont want to hear which phone is better i want to hear about the galaxy nexus, how it feels in your hand, smoothnes etc etc.
This is not another which phone is better thread.
Thabk you
Best regards
Elinho
Sent from my Nexus S using xda premium
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have used both. I keep changing my phones regularly. Generally every 3 months. I always have 2 phones regardless.
Now...
Sometimes as my Prof kept saying,
it all comes down to what you are used to the most.
If you are a busy man and just want to get things done and you are used to the iOS platform then go for the iPhone 4s, it really surprises me how consistent they have kept their platform from over 5 years.
But there is a price you pay. For ex when you compare the maps and email/Gmail apps; the iOS apps feel archaic.
Ics is a complete overhaul. There is a significant amount of learning curve. Not much if you are coming from iOS. But to be on the record, it is completely rewarding no matter what platform you come from (keep in mind it takes about a week)
One of the gripes that I have with iOS is that it is not Rewarding to the power user. The speed at which you do things the first time is pretty much as fast as yo can ever be.
Let me address a few issues with galaxy nexus
Size:
Mammoth like if you are coming from iOS
Little big if you are coming from the almost standard 4 inch androids.
But the feel in hand is really good. It is lighter than the iPhone 4s. After a week you wont notice the size but will really appreciate the 720p screen, the real estate that it gives you. I can't go back to the iPhone like screen size after using galaxy nexus, it is like what the first iPhone did to the typical smartphone users back then (who were mainly on windows mobile and palm/blackberry on their 2.4-2.8 inch devices)
Smoothness:
I'm on AOKP rom with Francisco Franco s Kernel and it is the smoothest Android experience.
IOS introduces a lot of delays to keep the os feeling smooth. Just try opening an app as soon as you hit the home button.
And it still lags everytime when you go to the spotlight search by swiping left on the homescreen.
Right now they have just 3 hardware platforms and then can test the heck out of it for delivering 60fps (also known as butter smooth performance) albeit making actual performance sacrifices (though I've heard from internal sources that it is becoming increasingly difficult to do so on 3gs)
The point I'm trying to make is that iOS has engineered smoothness at the cost of performance, you will have to decide for yourself if this is OK with you.
IOS vs ICS
I feel that ics and Android in general gives app developers a lot more freedom and versatility in app design (clearly demonstrated by the mlo app which is still in beta on Android but much better than the iOS app).
But app developers go by the penetration and clearly iOS has more than android (again demonstrated by the Mlo app which is still in beta on Android)
And as far as the stock apps are concerned there is no match for ics, just check the iPhone vs galaxy nexus sunspider and browesermark benchmarks on the browser which probably is the top most used app on the smartphone os (tip don't compare the iPad 2 with galaxy nexus as iPad 2 is clocked at 25% more than iPhone 4s, and there are quad core options available in android ics tablets (friend just got pics pushed to his transformer prime ))
And the Gmail app.(
ICS has a lot of potential If you are not porting over your apps from iOS , a lesson for you speed test.net)
Now to conclude I've not gone back to iPhone 4(couldn't stand iPhone 4s as it didn't have a jailbreak and hence my favourite jailbreak app swipenav which avoids the most inhumanly possible HCI design of tapping the left most corner to go back (which is probably the second most used function from going to home screen )
Pradeep.
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trincisor said:
have used both. I keep changing my phones regularly. Generally every 3 months. I always have 2 phones regardless.
Now...
Sometimes as my Prof kept saying,
it all comes down to what you are used to the most.
If you are a busy man and just want to get things done and you are used to the iOS platform then go for the iPhone 4s, it really surprises me how consistent they have kept their platform from over 5 years.
But there is a price you pay. For ex when you compare the maps and email/Gmail apps; the iOS apps feel archaic.
Ics is a complete overhaul. There is a significant amount of learning curve. Not much if you are coming from iOS. But to be on the record, it is completely rewarding no matter what platform you come from (keep in mind it takes about a week)
One of the gripes that I have with iOS is that it is not Rewarding to the power user. The speed at which you do things the first time is pretty much as fast as yo can ever be.
Let me address a few issues with galaxy nexus
Size:
Mammoth like if you are coming from iOS
Little big if you are coming from the almost standard 4 inch androids.
But the feel in hand is really good. It is lighter than the iPhone 4s. After a week you wont notice the size but will really appreciate the 720p screen, the real estate that it gives you. I can't go back to the iPhone like screen size after using galaxy nexus, it is like what the first iPhone did to the typical smartphone users back then (who were mainly on windows mobile and palm/blackberry on their 2.4-2.8 inch devices)
Smoothness:
I'm on AOKP rom with Francisco Franco s Kernel and it is the smoothest Android experience.
IOS introduces a lot of delays to keep the os feeling smooth. Just try opening an app as soon as you hit the home button.
And it still lags everytime when you go to the spotlight search by swiping left on the homescreen.
Right now they have just 3 hardware platforms and then can test the heck out of it for delivering 60fps (also known as butter smooth performance) albeit making actual performance sacrifices (though I've heard from internal sources that it is becoming increasingly difficult to do so on 3gs)
The point I'm trying to make is that iOS has engineered smoothness at the cost of performance, you will have to decide for yourself if this is OK with you.
IOS vs ICS
I feel that ics and Android in general gives app developers a lot more freedom and versatility in app design (clearly demonstrated by the mlo app which is still in beta on Android but much better than the iOS app).
But app developers go by the penetration and clearly iOS has more than android (again demonstrated by the Mlo app which is still in beta on Android)
And as far as the stock apps are concerned there is no match for ics, just check the iPhone vs galaxy nexus sunspider and browesermark benchmarks on the browser which probably is the top most used app on the smartphone os (tip don't compare the iPad 2 with galaxy nexus as iPad 2 is clocked at 25% more than iPhone 4s, and there are quad core options available in android ics tablets (friend just got pics pushed to his transformer prime ))
And the Gmail app.(
ICS has a lot of potential If you are not porting over your apps from iOS , a lesson for you speed test.net)
Now to conclude I've not gone back to iPhone 4(couldn't stand iPhone 4s as it didn't have a jailbreak and hence my favourite jailbreak app swipenav which avoids the most inhumanly possible HCI design of tapping the left most corner to go back (which is probably the second most used function from going to home screen )
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premiu
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Thank you for your time and effort!
Im considering buying galaxy nexus due the screen, but i like the siri function in iphone and their smoothnes in the games due.
But overall the Gnex is above all much better then iphone.
But as i said erlier the gnex is much more expensive here in sweden :/

Siri is a worthless bum.
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I'l give you an honest overview : the phone is SINCERELY NOT THERE to compete as a completely functional device to be honest.
And let me also tell you that I'm an Android fan boy, and I completely ABHOR apple and everything to do with them.
BUT YET. Samsung Galaxy Nexus is NOT EVEN a complete functional device yet, and paying 530 £ or so (in the UK) for such a phone - IS WASTE OF MONEY.
There are MANY glitches that makes the whole experience very unsavoury. To the point that it definitely DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A FINISHED phone to me at all.
All the gloss of ICS apart, I have seen stability issues with this phone that just totally kills every thing. And mind you this is only on 4.0.1 GSM version UK (I've others here who have the same issue)
I'm a pretty heavy user. I've had a HTC Desire and worked out the ins and outs of the system and that device was EXTREMELY usable over the years.
This phone has so many problems -
1. The LED light does not even support missed calls by default. If you had a missed call you would not know till you turn the screen on (It is a basic feature was available 2 years back on HTC desire) I dont want to install a complicated APP like Light Flow to do it. This is basic stuff that should come out of the box
2. The phone in landscape mode does not type properly, this is just hilarious. Shame on google. The typing works perfect when you keep your phone straight, but the same phone, same stuff if you type in landscape it is incredibly jittery, you dont see what you wrote for good couple of seconds! This is just SHODDY work. how can screen orientation screw up your typing so badly - i have no idea. Just shameful from google.
3. The SMS dont go many times, and I've seen many threads about the same. Apparently you can screw up the message center settings? I dont know how but I'vent done that still had SMS problems a few times. And I had to restart my phone or send multiple times to make it work.
4. The call quality is the WORST I have seen on ANY phone in my entire life. I've been using the phone in exactly the same locations as I was using my HTC desire, and the call drops so much more often that it is just unbelievable! and needless to say incredibly frustrating. If the call doesnt drop the sound, sometimes (& often), is really pathetic and many a times it is inaudible to either party on the call. Is this a phone?
5. The phone is crashing randomly, this happens every 2 days or so (lately every single day now) and I'm a pretty heavy user. People say it is because I'm still on 4.0.1 - well I dont buy that because if 4.0.3 (the latest version) was fixing so many stability issues, then there is NO reason for Google to delay the release of that version on here in the UK for such a long time. Then some people say it is because I've some app installed, well I uninstalled most of my apps - but this problem doesnt go. And the phone becoming unresponsive due to an APP sounds like a serious piece of cr*pware to me. My settings page becomes unresponsive!! How can that happen? It has NEVER happened on android 2.3.7 with my HTC desire. If an APP is buggy, your home and menu screen buttons work perfectly! your android system doesnt become unstable because a stupid APP is incompatible or buggy! but here the WHOLE PHONE BECOMES UNUSABLE!!
And there's more! The latest of the glitches, yesterday - after the usual while typing the phone crashed, and then on reboot - all widgets on my screen - were all scrambled. No widget was displaying any text but jumbled ASCII characters, when you move the widgets the text would show but not without. I rebooted and it has been okay since.
but how horrible is that to put in so much of your money to get a piece of sht phone that doesnt even work and does basic functions correctly?
6. The phone also starts lagging, and is jerky ... especially with live wallpaper. That was really frustrating to see if you bought the phone to be on the cutting edge of mobile technology!! Samsung galaxy s2 scores much higher even on CPU benchmark tests I downloaded. Galaxy nexus fails to score any more than 1700 on the tests while Galaxy S2 (almost the same hardware) notches up to 3200+ scores!!! and these are basic tests that check cpu performance and your animation rendering capabilities. You cant mess with that really.
Now this could really be because of the high resolution of the screen... which brings me to the only two GOOD points of this phone :
1. Really crisp resolution. It is really just a class apart from older generation phones. Your icons, text, everything looks extremely good!
2. ICS - as everyone already mentioned it is a huge step up in terms of usability, and looks great deal polished. The phone feels good to navigate through, and ICS brings in some other features that make it a good OS. Others can cover on that more.
But anyway, I find those two points as largely ineffective in my choice to buy a phone (but i have unfortunately bought it and got rid of my desire and have been regretting the decision......it has been about 21 days on the galaxy nexus now)
Honestly, STAY AWAY FROM GALAXY NEXUS. The device is not worth it, and ICS evolution (especially bug fixes) and the hardware upgrades later this year would make for a really good and a competitive phone that you can buy!
cheers
Dhruv

Dhruv,
Try Romain's AOKP rom
See if that fixes most of your problems
About performance I think you are comparing quadrant scores. Quadrant is not a good benchmark
Try individual performance like
multi threaded linpack
Mflops scores
Sunspider
Browsermark
Ics has been vastly optimized for performance.
Pradeep.
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dhruvraj said:
I'l give you an honest overview : the phone is SINCERELY NOT THERE to compete as a completely functional device to be honest.
And let me also tell you that I'm an Android fan boy, and I completely ABHOR apple and everything to do with them.
BUT YET. Samsung Galaxy Nexus is NOT EVEN a complete functional device yet, and paying 530 £ or so (in the UK) for such a phone - IS WASTE OF MONEY.
There are MANY glitches that makes the whole experience very unsavoury. To the point that it definitely DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A FINISHED phone to me at all.
All the gloss of ICS apart, I have seen stability issues with this phone that just totally kills every thing. And mind you this is only on 4.0.1 GSM version UK (I've others here who have the same issue)
I'm a pretty heavy user. I've had a HTC Desire and worked out the ins and outs of the system and that device was EXTREMELY usable over the years.
This phone has so many problems -
1. The LED light does not even support missed calls by default. If you had a missed call you would not know till you turn the screen on (It is a basic feature was available 2 years back on HTC desire) I dont want to install a complicated APP like Light Flow to do it. This is basic stuff that should come out of the box
2. The phone in landscape mode does not type properly, this is just hilarious. Shame on google. The typing works perfect when you keep your phone straight, but the same phone, same stuff if you type in landscape it is incredibly jittery, you dont see what you wrote for good couple of seconds! This is just SHODDY work. how can screen orientation screw up your typing so badly - i have no idea. Just shameful from google.
3. The SMS dont go many times, and I've seen many threads about the same. Apparently you can screw up the message center settings? I dont know how but I'vent done that still had SMS problems a few times. And I had to restart my phone or send multiple times to make it work.
4. The call quality is the WORST I have seen on ANY phone in my entire life. I've been using the phone in exactly the same locations as I was using my HTC desire, and the call drops so much more often that it is just unbelievable! and needless to say incredibly frustrating. If the call doesnt drop the sound, sometimes (& often), is really pathetic and many a times it is inaudible to either party on the call. Is this a phone?
5. The phone is crashing randomly, this happens every 2 days or so (lately every single day now) and I'm a pretty heavy user. People say it is because I'm still on 4.0.1 - well I dont buy that because if 4.0.3 (the latest version) was fixing so many stability issues, then there is NO reason for Google to delay the release of that version on here in the UK for such a long time. Then some people say it is because I've some app installed, well I uninstalled most of my apps - but this problem doesnt go. And the phone becoming unresponsive due to an APP sounds like a serious piece of cr*pware to me. My settings page becomes unresponsive!! How can that happen? It has NEVER happened on android 2.3.7 with my HTC desire. If an APP is buggy, your home and menu screen buttons work perfectly! your android system doesnt become unstable because a stupid APP is incompatible or buggy! but here the WHOLE PHONE BECOMES UNUSABLE!!
And there's more! The latest of the glitches, yesterday - after the usual while typing the phone crashed, and then on reboot - all widgets on my screen - were all scrambled. No widget was displaying any text but jumbled ASCII characters, when you move the widgets the text would show but not without. I rebooted and it has been okay since.
but how horrible is that to put in so much of your money to get a piece of sht phone that doesnt even work and does basic functions correctly?
6. The phone also starts lagging, and is jerky ... especially with live wallpaper. That was really frustrating to see if you bought the phone to be on the cutting edge of mobile technology!! Samsung galaxy s2 scores much higher even on CPU benchmark tests I downloaded. Galaxy nexus fails to score any more than 1700 on the tests while Galaxy S2 (almost the same hardware) notches up to 3200+ scores!!! and these are basic tests that check cpu performance and your animation rendering capabilities. You cant mess with that really.
Now this could really be because of the high resolution of the screen... which brings me to the only two GOOD points of this phone :
1. Really crisp resolution. It is really just a class apart from older generation phones. Your icons, text, everything looks extremely good!
2. ICS - as everyone already mentioned it is a huge step up in terms of usability, and looks great deal polished. The phone feels good to navigate through, and ICS brings in some other features that make it a good OS. Others can cover on that more.
But anyway, I find those two points as largely ineffective in my choice to buy a phone (but i have unfortunately bought it and got rid of my desire and have been regretting the decision......it has been about 21 days on the galaxy nexus now)
Honestly, STAY AWAY FROM GALAXY NEXUS. The device is not worth it, and ICS evolution (especially bug fixes) and the hardware upgrades later this year would make for a really good and a competitive phone that you can buy!
cheers
Dhruv
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Why don't you sell it while it's still "fresh"..? You could easily get a desire for 200£, if not less actually!

dhruvraj said:
I'l give you an honest overview : the phone is SINCERELY NOT THERE to compete as a completely functional device to be honest.
And let me also tell you that I'm an Android fan boy, and I completely ABHOR apple and everything to do with them.
BUT YET. Samsung Galaxy Nexus is NOT EVEN a complete functional device yet, and paying 530 £ or so (in the UK) for such a phone - IS WASTE OF MONEY.
There are MANY glitches that makes the whole experience very unsavoury. To the point that it definitely DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A FINISHED phone to me at all.
All the gloss of ICS apart, I have seen stability issues with this phone that just totally kills every thing. And mind you this is only on 4.0.1 GSM version UK (I've others here who have the same issue)
I'm a pretty heavy user. I've had a HTC Desire and worked out the ins and outs of the system and that device was EXTREMELY usable over the years.
This phone has so many problems -
1. The LED light does not even support missed calls by default. If you had a missed call you would not know till you turn the screen on (It is a basic feature was available 2 years back on HTC desire) I dont want to install a complicated APP like Light Flow to do it. This is basic stuff that should come out of the box
2. The phone in landscape mode does not type properly, this is just hilarious. Shame on google. The typing works perfect when you keep your phone straight, but the same phone, same stuff if you type in landscape it is incredibly jittery, you dont see what you wrote for good couple of seconds! This is just SHODDY work. how can screen orientation screw up your typing so badly - i have no idea. Just shameful from google.
3. The SMS dont go many times, and I've seen many threads about the same. Apparently you can screw up the message center settings? I dont know how but I'vent done that still had SMS problems a few times. And I had to restart my phone or send multiple times to make it work.
4. The call quality is the WORST I have seen on ANY phone in my entire life. I've been using the phone in exactly the same locations as I was using my HTC desire, and the call drops so much more often that it is just unbelievable! and needless to say incredibly frustrating. If the call doesnt drop the sound, sometimes (& often), is really pathetic and many a times it is inaudible to either party on the call. Is this a phone?
5. The phone is crashing randomly, this happens every 2 days or so (lately every single day now) and I'm a pretty heavy user. People say it is because I'm still on 4.0.1 - well I dont buy that because if 4.0.3 (the latest version) was fixing so many stability issues, then there is NO reason for Google to delay the release of that version on here in the UK for such a long time. Then some people say it is because I've some app installed, well I uninstalled most of my apps - but this problem doesnt go. And the phone becoming unresponsive due to an APP sounds like a serious piece of cr*pware to me. My settings page becomes unresponsive!! How can that happen? It has NEVER happened on android 2.3.7 with my HTC desire. If an APP is buggy, your home and menu screen buttons work perfectly! your android system doesnt become unstable because a stupid APP is incompatible or buggy! but here the WHOLE PHONE BECOMES UNUSABLE!!
And there's more! The latest of the glitches, yesterday - after the usual while typing the phone crashed, and then on reboot - all widgets on my screen - were all scrambled. No widget was displaying any text but jumbled ASCII characters, when you move the widgets the text would show but not without. I rebooted and it has been okay since.
but how horrible is that to put in so much of your money to get a piece of sht phone that doesnt even work and does basic functions correctly?
6. The phone also starts lagging, and is jerky ... especially with live wallpaper. That was really frustrating to see if you bought the phone to be on the cutting edge of mobile technology!! Samsung galaxy s2 scores much higher even on CPU benchmark tests I downloaded. Galaxy nexus fails to score any more than 1700 on the tests while Galaxy S2 (almost the same hardware) notches up to 3200+ scores!!! and these are basic tests that check cpu performance and your animation rendering capabilities. You cant mess with that really.
Now this could really be because of the high resolution of the screen... which brings me to the only two GOOD points of this phone :
1. Really crisp resolution. It is really just a class apart from older generation phones. Your icons, text, everything looks extremely good!
2. ICS - as everyone already mentioned it is a huge step up in terms of usability, and looks great deal polished. The phone feels good to navigate through, and ICS brings in some other features that make it a good OS. Others can cover on that more.
But anyway, I find those two points as largely ineffective in my choice to buy a phone (but i have unfortunately bought it and got rid of my desire and have been regretting the decision......it has been about 21 days on the galaxy nexus now)
Honestly, STAY AWAY FROM GALAXY NEXUS. The device is not worth it, and ICS evolution (especially bug fixes) and the hardware upgrades later this year would make for a really good and a competitive phone that you can buy!
cheers
Dhruv
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No idea which galaxy nexus u are using man , but had mine for just about a month now running aokp with franco kernel , And no i didnt use the stock i rooted and slapped a rom on after 2 days if i wanted to use what they gave me i wouldnt buy a nexus device .
this phone is SMOOOTH i mean FLUIIID is keyword here.
ive had 1 crash on phone in a months time , 0 lag
Seriously wtf are u about when it comes to call quality this is one of the best devices ive used when it comes to call quality ive had many other 3 other droids before this .

if only you read, you dimwit you wouldnt open your mouth
GSM 4.0.1 UK, unrooted stock (I dont want to flash with a new kernel I expect Google to do a good job to begin with)
and I've others on here who have same issues. dont chest thump your way up here, this phone is NOT a finished product and you've no clue what you are talking about
here stock kernel 4.0.1 - i'm attaching screenshots.
1. xda not responding
2. then SETTINGS not responding!!! :: native "settings" not responding (I've never seen that on any android before)
3. how my home screen looks
4. how my home screen looked after a crash and a reboot!! (the one i mentioned in the point above as widgets got screwed!)

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if only you read, you dimwit you wouldnt open your mouth
GSM 4.0.1 UK, unrooted stock (I dont want to flash with a new kernel I expect Google to do a good job to begin with)
and I've others on here who have same issues. dont chest thump your way up here, this phone is NOT a finished product and you've no clue what you are talking about
here stock kernel 4.0.1 - i'm attaching screenshots.
1. xda not responding
2. then SETTINGS not responding!!! :: native "settings" not responding (I've never seen that on any android before)
3. how my home screen looks
4. how my home screen looked after a crash and a reboot!! (the one i mentioned in the point above as widgets got screwed!)
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your an idiot nexus is purely aimed to be a developer device.
and all the nexus devices run the latest OS which means some might have issues thats the whole reason they get updates quickly and 4.01 is suppose to be buggy thats why all the good roms are on 4.02 or 4.03 and like how 2.3.3 was the base for all gingerbread roms 4.03 will be the base for all the ICS phones.
People like u should just buy an iphone or a SG2 or some other phones which are tried and tested before they are launched not a nexus device.

just read this thread to see how many problems they have with this phone :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367807&page=11
and many others about SMS not going, jerky rendering... its all mentioned all over these forums
developers play with custom ROMS which this phone makes easier for you to do, that is not an excuse to dole out a phone riddled with bugs in basic functionalities, just so it looks glossy and cool! that is pathetic
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and here's for the call quality http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1421232
stop your chest thumping around here for a piece of junk phone

Dont fight guys thank you for your answers!
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Pro's and Cons?

So I am up for my 2 year upgrade and I have been curious of the Galaxy S3. However the last time I strayed from the apple coated path I kinda got burned. But this was back during the iphone 3g and the "other" phone I got ran windows mobile and did so poorly due to at&t's bloatware. Things have changed and android is a far superior operating system that windows mobile can only sit in a little dark corner and hope to be.
But I have to admit, while I have the ASUS infinity, I have never ventured into the realm of android phones. So I really have no idea were to start. I am wanting a phone that can not only match but be vastly superior than my current iphone 4 and be able to carry me through 2 years without lagging behind to much. I have heard so many good things about the S3 I figured it would be a alright place to start.
My biggest concern is that by moving fully away from iOS I will loose features and applications I have built over the past few years and that the apps on android may not be as good. Not that I had or used that many paid programs, 98% of the ones I use day to day were Free on the app store. But I know I will miss iMessage as I use it fairly frequently between my family, but thats really the ONLY apple-only feature I will miss. Although I really question how well ebay runs on android, the version I installed on my infinity really felt lacking compared to its iOS sister. Another feature I have been looking forward to is Siri, but Google Now is just as good if not better, the S3 just needs JB. XD
Another thing I am concerned about is the camera quality. As good as the iphone 4 camera is, I would love to get something better.
Anyways I guess my ultimate question is... Do you think the S3 is the best android phone available at this time, do you think the S3 will still beat the next iPhone that is supposedly coming in September, and do you think a better android phone will come out between now and when the new iphone hits?
Also... Are there any shortcomings to the S3? Like does it overheat, have screen sensitivity issues, lots of build defects, or etc?

I was an apple junkie myself until I got my little HTC aria, and I've never looked back. The galaxy s3 is the best phone I've used hands down, my wife has a 4s and the rest of our family all revolve around Iphones, but I am constantly amazing them with what android can do...and BTW the camera is really awesome, no shutter, burst shot and the ability to take pics while recording HD video...what more could you ask for?! Get one, enjoy it, spend some time getting to know android, then if you decide to keep it and get brave, root it and try Google now lots of fun and very handy!
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I move out of iOS around 2 tears ago and i will never go back. Like you said iMessanger is only good future in iOS, but you can always work around with some third party apps. Everything else is as good if not even better on android then iOS.
Get S3 and you will be happy. I admit it is diffriend but you get around android fast..
Good luck.

Recent convert from iphone 4 to S3, and the only thing I would watch for is the stock samsung email client flat out mangles email from my company's exchange server. (Can root and go ICS stock email as a work around, or buy a paid email app, but something to be aware of) Also, I have yet to find a cribbage app as good as Cribbage Premium on iOS, but that's just me The battery life on the S3 is worse than the iphone 4 out of the box, but CPU Editor will let you tune the cpus for good battery life, and since the battery is removable, you can get backup batteries for cheap.
Anyways I guess my ultimate question is... Do you think the S3 is the best android phone available at this time, do you think the S3 will still beat the next iPhone that is supposedly coming in September, and do you think a better android phone will come out between now and when the new iphone hits?
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Best android available? I'd say yes, though would take a look at the HTC One X as an alternative. The rumors of screen size on the iphone 5 are 4", I like the extra screen real estate on the SG3, but that's just my preference. The iphone 5 is supposed to drop middle of next month, and I haven't heard of anything new and wonderful that will drop before then in the android space.
Would I make the switch again? Absolutely. I made money selling my iphone, and not having to pay my carrier for the infrequent tethering I do is saving me money monthly as well. I like the ability to tinker with the phone as well. It's been a great daily driver, and it brings back some of the notification style features and the notification led that I missed from my blackberry back in the day.
I work tech support for a small section of a large company. Would I recommend the S3 over the iphone 5 for Average Joe User? Probably not. too much tweaking has to be done to get it to work in our environment (and that's our environment's fault mostly, not the S3's). Also, the ability to f*ck with the phone is a two-edged sword, and some of my users are lucky they manage to dress themselves in the morning, giving them the ability to flash would cause issues and add to my workload

Kostazu said:
Recent convert from iphone 4 to S3, and the only thing I would watch for is the stock samsung email client flat out mangles email from my company's exchange server. (Can root and go ICS stock email as a work around, or buy a paid email app, but something to be aware of) Also, I have yet to find a cribbage app as good as Cribbage Premium on iOS, but that's just me The battery life on the S3 is worse than the iphone 4 out of the box, but CPU Editor will let you tune the cpus for good battery life, and since the battery is removable, you can get backup batteries for cheap.
Best android available? I'd say yes, though would take a look at the HTC One X as an alternative. The rumors of screen size on the iphone 5 are 4", I like the extra screen real estate on the SG3, but that's just my preference. The iphone 5 is supposed to drop middle of next month, and I haven't heard of anything new and wonderful that will drop before then in the android space.
Would I make the switch again? Absolutely. I made money selling my iphone, and not having to pay my carrier for the infrequent tethering I do is saving me money monthly as well. I like the ability to tinker with the phone as well. It's been a great daily driver, and it brings back some of the notification style features and the notification led that I missed from my blackberry back in the day.
I work tech support for a small section of a large company. Would I recommend the S3 over the iphone 5 for Average Joe User? Probably not. too much tweaking has to be done to get it to work in our environment (and that's our environment's fault mostly, not the S3's). Also, the ability to f*ck with the phone is a two-edged sword, and some of my users are lucky they manage to dress themselves in the morning, giving them the ability to flash would cause issues and add to my workload
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Humm that has me concerned then. Since I use email quite a bit.
Is the One X more stock android than the S3 is?
Also how do you guys think samsung will handle jellybean? Like do you think it will have google now or will it be locked to s-voice?

HTC uses the Sense overlay where Samsung uses Touchwiz. It's a layer of software bolted on top of Android in either case, and preference between the two may vary depending on the user.
That email warning is only for Exchange and may be specific only to my company's Exchange server, so take that warning with a grain of salt.
Leaks for jelly bean already out, so should be available soon. I would imagine Samsung will stick with S-voice, which is a shame as I have heard nothing but love for G now.
The really nice thing about Android imo is that if you don't like the stock apps or features, you can do something about it, via additional software or running a completely new Rom.
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get SGS3
if you are into heavy modding. Community is very vibrant.
If you don't like tinkering - Apple is way to go.

The beauty of android is that you can already get jelly bean on the S3, and that too in the vanilla form straight from the galaxy nexus jb aosp version
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bravomail said:
if you are into heavy modding. Community is very vibrant.
If you don't like tinkering - Apple is way to go.
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This was my thought process when I bought my first smartphone (finally) GS3

bravomail said:
if you are into heavy modding. Community is very vibrant.
If you don't like tinkering - Apple is way to go.
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Im a little inbetween to be honest. Like I would prefer something to just work out of the box... but I like having the option to tinker if I want. ;P
BTW, I decided to get with the S3 and so far have been a happy owner for 2 days now.
Only problem I have had so far is getting the phone to jive with my mac. Basically I am wanting to sync my music and ringtones over to the S3. I'm uploading my music to google play now, but google play does not appear to be reconized by samsungs music player so the music widget is useless. :S

Don't yell at me, help me please. Choices choices

So with all of this I have a bad taste for Samsung. Not the Note 7 because it is a real marvel of a phone, but the company that kind of down played this recall and now is fixing things in the 11th hour. No matter the %, 92 isn't 37 and I hate when companies go half way on ownership.
To that end I pre-ordered an Iphone 7 plus 256GB in jet black. For the meantime while my Note sat in a drawer, I wound up using a spare new Iphone 6 that my helpdesk guy had laying around. I made things my own by adding cards to apple pay, using a hack to get icons to move down and to the right, using the IOS 10 widget panel, GMAIL, Google cal, Google Play music, news stand etc. Here is why I need help...
Iphone Cons-
No Customization and hacks to do simple things (but then, do I actually care about that anymore)
Screen is not as nice as the Note 7 (But its damn good and I notice no resolution difference. In some ways the screen is more accurate on the 7 plus based on me seeing it on the 6s plus)
The phone is huge for a 5.5" No denying that
Apple pay is NOT Samsung Pay
No Wireless Charge (whatever because I can get a dock but its just so easy)
Back button still ****ing annoys me
Notifications are better in IOS 10 than ever but still less than that of Android
EVERYONE HAS IT
Dated physical design
No QC
Makes me feel like a woman hipster with a giant manbun
Iphone Pros-
Smooth as **** (and will be in 6 months while my note surely wont be)
Touch ID is still better than the fingerprint on the note or the iris on the note
Gonna last as long on a charge even with a 2900mah battery
Multi-task is finally better and while not google, I ask you to tell me why I would care if the outcome is identical when navigating between apps
Design while old feels really smooth, premium and aluminum is less fragile for sure
IOS10 is the first IOS I don't really mind
Google services make IOS great and in 10 you can hide factory apps
Probably a slightly better camera now
A10 Fusion is fast as hell and on their software will more than likely lap the Note even from day 1 with real life use. Definitely in 6 months though
Cases are generally better and more premium
Swiftkey makes IOS also usable
Touch ID is so fast and never misses my finger. ID integration in each app
Apps are cleaner, more sophisticated looking and have features my android apps don't
God I am getting old, but everything just works and while tinkering is fun, I find myself not missing it in IOS anymore
Raise to wake takes care of the AOD need for me
Bluetooth audio and BT battery management are exponentially better than the note
So here is the truth. I feel awful leaving android, but I have now used the iphone even the smaller older one and its still fast and smooth and enjoyable. So I know you are all heated about the topic, all generally Andy fans but I ask as a fellow techy who is getting old with a couple of kids, what the **** do I choose.
P.S. Please don't bring up S pen because its not a factor for me.

I have a replacement Note 7 and it's like butter.
No lag and such a difference. Then you can go further, a Note 7 without lag, smaller bezels than the iPhone 7 Plus my headphone jack (Sorry, couldn't resist) and the ability to cutomise until my heart is content.
Enjoy your iPhone it's a fantastic device, but it's certainly no (replacement) Note 7

You have to make the decision that works best for you in the long term. would I personally go to an iPhone? Nah, in my opinion they're phones for kids/teens and the only way to make them semi usable is to add a crap-ton of Google stuff to them, or you can just get the actual google operating system wrapped in WAYYYY better looking hardware, i don't care what anyone says, the space above and below the iPhone screen is just unacceptable. I write apps for both IOS and Android and they are "smooth" because they are so limited and clocked down that they run great, but that slows trust me. Android phones tend to be power houses and can catch here and there but I've personally never experienced the lag people speak of on Touchwiz, not even when i rooted my phones back in the day, thing is people want to add everything and tweak everything to the phone then don't understand why it hits a snag every once in a while. But again, my explosive Note 7 runs perfect, no lag or anything, its buttery smooth, and all of my Samsung phones have been even when power using them.
So at this point it comes down to preference, OS wise and aesthetically. There's no question iPhone has more mainstream appeal making acquiring accessories and stuff a lot easier, But there are no shortage of Android accessories available either, and Android is meant to customize and make your own, where as IOS is set to strict guidelines to have it always look how Apple wants it to look. For everything I've listed here and more Android is just the choice for me, preferably Samsung because they've found that perfect phone formula that seems to be tailored to me personally and professionally, but that isn't everyone's taste, fact is, there really isn't anything that you get in an iPhone that you don't already get on Android, but there's a lot on Android you cant get with iPhone.
Good luck!

alltaken123 said:
I have a replacement Note 7 and it's like butter.
No lag and such a difference. Then you can go further, a Note 7 without lag, smaller bezels than the iPhone 7 Plus my headphone jack (Sorry, couldn't resist) and the ability to cutomise until my heart is content.
Enjoy your iPhone it's a fantastic device, but it's certainly no (replacement) Note 7
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I noticed that also. My replacement is noticeably smoother. My last one would randomly lag and stutter. The new one is as smooth as my Exynos S7 Edge was.
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GibMcFragger said:
I noticed that also. My replacement is noticeably smoother. My last one would randomly lag and stutter. The new one is as smooth as my Exynos S7 Edge was.
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Is the firmware version any different?

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Is the firmware version any different?
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Identical.
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jackdforme said:
So with all of this I have a bad taste for Samsung. Not the Note 7 because it is a real marvel of a phone, but the company that kind of down played this recall and now is fixing things in the 11th hour. No matter the %, 92 isn't 37 and I hate when companies go half way on ownership.
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What Samsung did was extraordinary and cost them billions of dollars both in cash and lost market capitalization. Based on how few phones have overheated they could have played kick-the-can and stalled this for months or been forced involuntarily in to addressing the issue. Instead they announced within a week of identifying the problem internally that they were recalling 2.5M Note7s. Clearly some here aren't in business because to think any multi-billion dollar multinational conglomerate could recall 2.5M of anything faster or better than Samsung did is a pipe dream. They obviously had their sh!t together because the recall program they were already in the process of in the U.S. was blessed within days by the CPSC.
I've been buying Samsung products for years (mostly Note phones and tablets) and this is the first serious problem I've encountered. The Note7 was the best Samsung phone I've owned before this debacle and nothing's changed after.
Audi had a huge unintentional acceleration problem, Honda is tied directly to the Takata airbag issue, GM was involved in an ignition switch problem cover-up, and VW's getting their ass kicked for screwing with emission testing. The first three are performing extremely well and VW will be fine when the dust settles. Samsung will be fine too.

Agreed, My entire house is outfitted in Samsung, I'm a definite Samsung "Fan-Boy" and because they have never let me down and always deliver the best most innovative products. My washer, dryer, TVs, Tablets, Soundbars, BT speakers, Watches, Phones, Netbooks, charging docks etc. all Samsung - and that goes for all of my Wife's products and the rest of my family (Brother, Sister, Brother in law, Mom etc.) I sold them on their first Samsung device years and they haven't looked back. I didn't fret once over this recall, I knew it was being blown out of proportion and that Samsung was all over it the best they could be and I was going to be taken care of.
If anything my Brand loyalty has been enhanced because of this, but that doesn't mean i expect Samsung to be perfect always or say they wont ever drop the ball, But I will cross that bridge when I get there, until then Samsung is my brand, and the Note 7 is a GREAT phone and has met and far exceeded my expectations both on aesthetics and performance.
Samsung came through for us on this recall regardless of how people want to perceive their approach, so to those people: please explain how they could have done it better?

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They obviously had their sh!t together because the recall program they were already in the process of in the U.S. was blessed within days by the CPSC.
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I agree that the recall has been handled well, unprecedented to get so many replacements produced and shipped so quickly (I have a replacement already).
However, the CPSC had this to say to BBC News:
Mr Kaye said Samsung should not have tried to do the recall by itself, saying: "Anybody who thinks that a company going out on its own is going to provide the best recall for that company, and more importantly for the consumer, needs to have more than their phone checked,"

alltaken123 said:
I agree that the recall has been handled well, unprecedented to get so many replacements produced and shipped so quickly (I have a replacement already).
However, the CPSC had this to say to BBC News:
Mr Kaye said Samsung should not have tried to do the recall by itself, saying: "Anybody who thinks that a company going out on its own is going to provide the best recall for that company, and more importantly for the consumer, needs to have more than their phone checked,"
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- Says the guy who makes money and gets to push his power by issuing recalls. No different than a mechanic saying "Anyone who rotates their own tires is looking to die!"
And sure, of course they did whats best for Samsung, They have to stay is business, both by cleaning up their mess as quick as possible and to their consumers liking (because we are the reason they have a business) no company is stupid enough not to try and please the consumer with their decision.

I'm just confused on the apparent blessing of the recall followed by that statement yesterday.

I knew you all would focus here. It's the problem with forums. I'm asking for honest opinions on the two devices not about the recall. It was a catalyst and now here I am at an impasse. It wouldn't even be a thought had the recall not happened but here we are.
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jackdforme said:
Iphone Cons-
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It's an iPhone.
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I'm asking for honest opinions on the two devices not about the recall.
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What's different today from the year's long discussion of Android vs. iOS? The iP7+ is as big as a house, has a 1080P IPS panel, has a 2,900mAh battery, no wireless charging, no fast charging, no audio jack, and an eco-system locked down harder than Fort Knox which offers no flexibility and customization. I didn't read your "pros" summary but I'm assuming they're what's already known. What's left to say?

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It's an iPhone.
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What's different today from the year's long discussion of Android vs. iOS? The iP7+ is as big as a house, has a 1080P IPS panel, has a 2,900mAh battery, no wireless charging, no fast charging, no audio jack, and an eco-system locked down harder than Fort Knox which offers no flexibility and customization. I didn't read your "pros" summary but I'm assuming they're what's already known. What's left to say?
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I mean the Pro's summary would be important to have an objective look no?

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Iphone Pros-
Smooth as **** (and will be in 6 months while my note surely wont be)
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I have to disagree... Before I have my Note 7, I was using my 2011 Note 1 (ran on Samsung Jelly bean stock rom)... No lag has been felt until recently when the apps I am using often are getting more and more RAM demanding...
Samsung vs iPhone should not be seen as Android vs iOS, but then when coming to which to choose, it depends on which best suits your needs (I don't view those who chose iOS over Android are any inferior). Personally I no longer find Android exciting like it used to be, but between Android devices and iPhone, I am still an Android guy. The reason for this is simple: Android has large variety of devices which I can choose from... And this time I chose Note 7 (not because I am loyal to Samsung) as it offers various exciting functions (and ya, I like the S-Pen)... As for iPhone 7 or 7+, I found the design for these device were unappealing...

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I have to disagree... Before I have my Note 7, I was using my 2011 Note 1 (ran on Samsung Jelly bean stock rom)... No lag has been felt until recently when the apps I am using often are getting more and more RAM demanding...
Samsung vs iPhone should not be seen as Android vs iOS, but then when coming to which to choose, it depends on which best suits your needs (I don't view those who chose iOS over Android are any inferior). Personally I no longer find Android exciting like it used to be, but between Android devices and iPhone, I am still an Android guy. The reason for this is simple: Android has large variety of devices which I can choose from... And this time I chose Note 7 (not because I am loyal to Samsung) as it offers various exciting functions (and ya, I like the S-Pen)...
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Now that is a good reply. Thank you for being just up front.

It looks to me like you only want 'on the fence' replies that give you no swing towards either device. I gave you real world use in that it is very smooth on the 2nd release which I presumed would have made a huge difference to your decision considering you mentioned that all was good until the recall announcement.
People have given you material and real world examples of the recall (In my case 10 days!) but you still seem bent on assuming the recall is being handled poorly.

I've read where apple has ignored people being hurt and even killed by the iPhone since 2009. Little girl had glass on her eye from it exploding, a man had third degree burns when biking he fell on it. Others died. Look it up. They said not our fault. Samsung cares more about customers. Imo so im sticking with Sammy. I hope you all find happiness with your devices, stay safe.
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Seems like we've all given the best answers we can to your question and reasons why we feel this way, ultimately the decision is yours based on what YOU like and why and how it fits into your life. The recall came up because its why you came into this dilemma in the first place.
We can tell you all day which couch your ass likes better, but in the end you're the only person who can feel the nerve endings in your ass lol, so you have make that decision based off what you like. Its like asking if I like Ham or Roast Beef more. The differences of IOS and Android are very prominent and very much talked about and public, at this point it seems you just want someone to push you in one direction or the other or give you the "go-ahead" but judging from your first post and last post, it seems like you've already chosen the iPhone and no one is gonna stop you, I choose Android wrapped in the Note 7, but that doesn't mean that's the standard everyone should live by.

That's a nice assalogy.