ICS is really taking a long time to be release there's tons of bugs and its really not as nice as people thinks, its a little over rated, I know things take time but when you get paid to sit and work on phones I don't think it should took this long, its been months now, for ICS to be as simple as it looks it really shouldn't have taken this long.... ICS on HTC EVO LTE may make a hugh difference though and there's a million reasons why.....
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Considering very few phones, if any really, have actually received an update to ICS, and the few that have had little success due to rushing.
We have few bugs in our latest ICS builds, much better shape than several OTA releases have had in the past.
LG released Gingerbread for the Optimus S last year and it completely screwed that phone up. Took 8 months to release a fix, and they lost all customer support.
They are testing and rebuilding a ROM to ensure it works, you must give it time.
Truuuuuuueeeeeee good point maybe i'm just impatient
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ICS to be as simple as it looks it really shouldn't have taken this long...
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ICS isn't as simple as it looks. There are quite a few changes and issues need to be ironed out before pushing out an OTA. Not everyone is into modding and SamSprint doesn't want to anger the average user who knows nothing about how their phone works.
Most of us are impatient for the update though
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So, what exactly is "bugging" you about the ICS leaks we have so far anways? lol I mean I'm on aosp now so I'm not sure, but ICS has been stable and perfectly useable for several months now. Even that silly notification bug has been fixed right? So, better question would be, what exactly are you waiting to be fixed with the ICS that's out? Pretty sure most of us are mainly waiting for the official kernel source to be released so kernel devs can go mad wild and make things even better.
Indeed.. what are the "tons of bugs?"
It's completely usable as a daily now. The bugs are mere annoyances.
We need the OTA so the devs have access to the ICS source code. Without true source most of what they do is workarounds, not bug removal. It will allow us to flash between roms without having to go back to stock every time. Read a few forums this stuff is being said in almost every forum in development.
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Well I shouldn't said tons of bugs but that battery life is horrible
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My battery lasts around 24 hours before it dies. I am at 1hr talk time, 1 hour screen on time, and I got over 170 emails today, as well as 400 text in/out. That's not bad battery life at all. and I played some angry birds, robot unicorn attack, and temple run. I am at 50% even.
Kve heard battery life is approaching, if not passed, that of gingerbread builds, well, as far as being on stand-by goes anyways
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Well I shouldn't said tons of bugs but that battery life is horrible
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Have you actually used an ICS rom or are you just making things up? I have very few bugs if any and battery life has been on par with any other android device I've used.
Have to keep in mind general use cases. Both my sister and my dad have the E4GT. Both have seen Touchwiz based ICS roms running on my phone and pulled the "I'm not sure I like all these changes" card. They are used to their phone as it is now and apprehensive about radical changes like ICS really brought to Android phones (Honeycomb isn't all that different from ICS). Sprint and Samsung have to keep these users in mind as they are likely a much larger user base than those of us here at XDA that root and flash our phones on a regular basis.
I'm as eager for source to drop as the next guy. Kind of wish Sprint and Sammy would through a back channel for those of us addicted to this stuff but we have to wait for them to make sure its all shored up and ready for the masses like my dad and sister.
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My battery lasts around 24 hours before it dies. I am at 1hr talk time, 1 hour screen on time, and I got over 170 emails today, as well as 400 text in/out. That's not bad battery life at all. and I played some angry birds, robot unicorn attack, and temple run. I am at 50% even.
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Lies.. Must have a extended battery or something no way 24hrs gtfoh
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Lies.. Must have a extended battery or something no way 24hrs gtfoh
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You shouldn't accuse someone of lying just because what they report seems impossible to you. That is completely immature and adds nothing positive to the discussion.
For the record there are a lot of people on ICS ROMs getting incredible battery life. I myself once had a battery charge last for almost 3 days before I finally killed it by playing a movie through Netflix.
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You shouldn't accuse someone of lying just because what they report seems impossible to you. That is completely immature and adds nothing positive to the discussion.
For the record there are a lot of people on ICS ROMs getting incredible battery life. I myself once had a battery charge last for almost 3 days before I finally killed it by playing a movie through Netflix.
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I average about 1 hour more of screen time no matter how I use my phone. The drain seems faster from 100-80% but after that its great. If I let it drain to 10-15% left I seem to end up with better numbers every time
I dont understand all the complaints lately, the leaks have been such great fun and they are stable enough for daily use. Yes battery life was bad in March but 24 hours is easy now with medium use and selective apps on a normal battery.
I use an FE10 based rom and the performance is great, very stable and absolutely no issues with battery life. Just as good as gingerbread in battery life in my experience.
If you think they are moving too slowly....you do it!
I hate it when people come into my job..complaining about how I'm not moving fast enough, or how pajama pants aren't appropriate attire for work, or how its rude to talk to a customer with 3/4's of a muffin in your mouth, or how "state law" says your not supposed to smoke inside....blah blah blah.
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Lies.. Must have a extended battery or something no way 24hrs gtfoh
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I went 31 hours, 1 Hour of Screen on, 3 phone calls 5 texts a few emails finished it off remoting into my server on 4g and doing a tiny bit of work till it hit 15% just 2 days ago.
That was on CM9 Alpha 4 but I have demonstrated the same light usage mostly standby scenario on the TW leaks twice.
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If your light usage is horrible you might considering lowering the screen brightness from 100%, things like that lol. Dont run your battery down any further than you ever have to. 40% is a good charge point but 15% when thats not a reality. You can murder a battery in 2 months by letting it run all the way down to say 4 to 0%. I have a feeling I will need a new one in about a year but most my cell phone and laptop batteries have lasted me 3 years or more the way I treat them.
I can very easily kill my battery in 4.5 to 8 hours if I need to use it alot.
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If you think they are moving too slowly....you do it!
I hate it when people come into my job..complaining about how I'm not moving fast enough, or how pajama pants aren't appropriate attire for work, or how its rude to talk to a customer with 3/4's of a muffin in your mouth, or how "state law" says your not supposed to smoke inside....blah blah blah.
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lol Yeah, that no pajamas thing is a total crock!
Related
Evo 4G bad.
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I haven't ever had FANTASTIC battery life like I'm seeing from some folks around here... when I first started on Starburst (I didn't keep stock for more than about four hours), I was at around 70% at the same time. I'm currently on Calkulin's 2.0.0; about to revert to Starburst and see if it's ROM-related, now that I've given Calkulin's about a week with a calibration to no effect.
I'm currently undervolted by -75 on all steps, and this seems to have made it WORSE if anything, which I didn't think was possible for undervolting to do. I've been monitoring things fairly closely with Watchdog, and nothing jumps out at me. The phone signal in the pic doesn't look good, but I've been in all the same places as I was when I was getting much better life.
What interests me is that I'm seeing absolutely no usage-based change in battery life. Until that sudden dip you see up there, it was going down at the exact same rate whether I was using it or it was sitting on my desk doing absolutely nothing.
That dip started after I played Fieldrunners HD for about ten minutes during a break at work. After I stopped playing, battery life went into a continuous plummet.
I use Tasker (extensively) to keep things in check; generally speaking, nothing is active unless it needs to be, except for Wi-Fi which is always active as it's my primary method of detecting my locations.
Am I missing something simple-stupid here? If not, anyone got any ideas, assuming going back to Starburst doesn't magically fix it?
Not sure if this will help, but improved my battery.
(1) go to your email setting for each account and change sync update, I believe by default it's set up to check every 15 minutes. With 10 email accounts, it took a toll on my my battery. I changed all my accounts to 4 hours.
(2) best way to kill a task is by holding down home button, going to task manager and kill from there. Market task killers were making things worse for me.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the thoughts! Sadly, neither of those really apply in my case. I stick with with the default Gmail app, which is all push, and I don't use task killers at all.
I'm running the stock rom with a custom kernel. I did notice that as soon as I went from stock to a different kernel I started to lose battery life. Maybe its something Samsung did? I am still a novice with Roms and what not, but nothing like this happened on my original Epic or my Hero. Maybe the yellow triangle isn't the only thing Samsung put in there.
Maybe the aggressive undervolt is causing your phone to ramp up to a higher state to perform the tasks? That drop is steep with how little screen on time you have
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Maybe the aggressive undervolt is causing your phone to ramp up to a higher state to perform the tasks? That drop is steep with how little screen on time you have
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For as little as I know, that certainly sounds logical. I still wasn't getting as good as I would've expected even the UV, though.
I just flashed the EK02 modem with today's wonderful developments; I'm going to wait and see if that gets me better reception and thus better life. If not... now I'm not sure whether to try the new ROM first, or scale back the UVs. I want to try one thing at a time, since it's not urgent that I have good battery life ASAP. This gets me through my day, currently, more or less; I'd like to try and find my root cause so that I'm not just trying things wildly in the future.
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For as little as I know, that certainly sounds logical. I still wasn't getting as good as I would've expected even the UV, though.
I just flashed the EK02 modem with today's wonderful developments; I'm going to wait and see if that gets me better reception and thus better life. If not... now I'm not sure whether to try the new ROM first, or scale back the UVs. I want to try one thing at a time, since it's not urgent that I have good battery life ASAP. This gets me through my day, currently, more or less; I'd like to try and find my root cause so that I'm not just trying things wildly in the future.
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Well, the good thing is that as of today, its possible to return back to bone stock and start again so you can mess with a few setups and see what works best for you. I have found that this is the first phone that uses the frequencies well. I haven't undervolted at all yet and I have had great battery life. I did the standard delete Sprint bloat, Social Hub and associated apps, Maps, etc. Also, get BetterBatteryStats. It may give you some insight into what's happening.
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How you return to bone stock? By applying the update?
Odin this
Przekret posted what appears to be a full EG30 RAR archive
Przekret - EG30 full - [post] [direct dl]
- RAR Pass: sampro.pl
- extract HOME.tar from rar file and flash in ODIN using PDA button
- does NOT include data.img so your userdata is preserved
- qbking77 installation video
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1381494
Then update to EK02
Got very slightly better today after flashing the EK02 kernel. 23% at the same time instead of 18%... anything could account for that 5%, though, so I don't really think EK02 had any effect on this. Zedomax kernel with stock voltages is next.
CPU boots pro
(From the market & assuming your rooted)
Settings
~Screen off profile max800 min200
~GPU to Conservative max1000 min800
~Nitrous Widget GPU to on demand max1400 min1000
What this should do is downclock your device when on standby by alot. Second for phone calls and daily stuff a clock of 1k will be silky smooth and be a small downclock. Third when you set up the nitrous widget and activate it you will overclock to 1.4k which is stoopid fast my quad score is at 1.4k I get 4500 scores at 1.6k oc but forget batt when I'm using the nitrous. I like too personally keep my phone at a clock of 800 for daily phone calls and web surfing... if I play a graphic intense game ill oc it with nitrous and not worry about burning up my phone because if I set the phone down it downclocks as soon as it stands by and will pick right back up when I'm ready.
Hope it helps here's pics.
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Batt life on my day off doing nothing but trolling forums at 800 clock.... I was on my phone like six hours straight while waiting for jury duty selection to be done.
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Wolf we need to see your app and process details page. I bet your Android OS and cell standby are much higher than they should be.
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Wolf we need to see your app and process details page. I bet your Android OS and cell standby are much higher than they should be.
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If you're talking about the page I think you are, it'll have to wait until at least morning. I just did a full charge.
To wit... I spent 43 minutes on a phone call, and lost almost the same as what I normally lose in that same time period. 6% for a 43 minute call; I'm averaging 5%/hr loss doing NOTHING.
@Dchibro, assuming that's true, what would it mean for me? Does it give me a solution?
So, doing a bit of my own detective work... I've had Watchdog installed for about three days, with aggressive monitoring. I was almost immediately getting a bunch of alerts for two processes:
I initially whitelisted them through Watchdog, dismissing them as system processes that unavoidably needed to run. However, the comment from Dchibro got me thinking and sent me back to those, and I started Googling around. Here's what I've turned up so far:
http://goo.gl/Hsvej (HUGE thread on the issue in SGS2 forums. Haven't had a chance to go through all this yet.)
http://goo.gl/kUcqx (SGS2 forums.)
http://goo.gl/mlWW4 (Nook Color forums.)
http://goo.gl/mNiId (My Google search results.)
Gonna try some of the suggestions on here and see what I turn up. For now, I'm returning to stock voltages, implementing a bunch of those changes and keeping everything else as it is now to see where I end up. Phone will be charged to 100% before bed tonight, and I'll post sometime tomorrow with my findings.
Wish me luck!
So, in stead of waking up to 50% this morning, I woke up to 86%! Which is the same I went to bed at. Six hours of sleep, not a single percent lost. If nothing else, I learned from all this that I can reboot the phone when this bug hits me and and get away from it.
As I suspected. Your Watchdog shot clearly shows that you are/were (sounds like a reboot solved your issue at least temporarily) suffering from the Android OS bug. This bug presents itself most prominently in the suspend and events/0 processes. Unfortunately, a conclusive solution has not been found, but there are some things you can do to hunt the problem down.
This is the best post/thread I've found regarding the AOS bug on Galaxy SII phones ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290020
Im one week into my new sgs2 running full stock. What should normal battery use be? I feel my battery drains too fast. Here is my usage summary since full charge couple hours ago.
I charged too 100%, shutdown, then charged to 100%, powered up and used the phone very sparingly since. Battery is at 91%
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Dchibro said:
As I suspected. Your Watchdog shot clearly shows that you are/were (sounds like a reboot solved your issue at least temporarily) suffering from the Android OS bug. This bug presents itself most prominently in the suspend and events/0 processes. Unfortunately, a conclusive solution has not been found, but there are some things you can do to hunt the problem down.
This is the best post/thread I've found regarding the AOS bug on Galaxy SII phones ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290020
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That bug gave me nightmares on my OG Epic.
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Definitely seeing a bit of an improvement, here.
Watchdog alerted me to the suspend and event/0 stuff again about an hour ago, but I quickly rebooted and nothing seems to have come of it. I'm going to try to make a Tasker profile to do this automatically, kinda like Viper's LoS script.
All in all, I'm considering this a mostly satisfactory alternative to draining 80% of my battery with almost no use in eight hours.
Hello everyone.
I might be trading in my Razr Maxx for the Nexus soon. I have 4 questions.
1. I come from a thunderbolt. That battery is horrid, do you understand me? HORRID. The Razr Maxx is a really nice improvement but I don't need all the juice which opened to me the oppurtunity to get the Nexus. How is the battery on it? I mainly make a few calls, text a lot, check email, and browse the web, watch the occasional 2-3 minute video. Will ROMs fix this?
2. I hear stuff about the signal being bad? It drops a lot? Then again I hear about this leak and it may fix it? What are you Nexus users thoughts on that?
3. How can you describe the overall phone?
4. Lastly, here's where you guys can go crazy, why should I get it over the Razr Maxx?
Why should you get a nexus? Read the dozens of threads in this section asking the same question, there's a new one almost daily. You're asking Galaxy Nexus owners about this device versus a locked down Razr Maxx, take a guess what they're going to say.
All the questions you asked can be answered by reading the threads, some are on the first page.
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Icey34 said:
Hello everyone.
I might be trading in my Razr Maxx for the Nexus soon. I have 4 questions.
1. I come from a thunderbolt. That battery is horrid, do you understand me? HORRID. The Razr Maxx is a really nice improvement but I don't need all the juice which opened to me the oppurtunity to get the Nexus. How is the battery on it? I mainly make a few calls, text a lot, check email, and browse the web, watch the occasional 2-3 minute video. Will ROMs fix this?
2. I hear stuff about the signal being bad? It drops a lot? Then again I hear about this leak and it may fix it? What are you Nexus users thoughts on that?
3. How can you describe the overall phone?
4. Lastly, here's where you guys can go crazy, why should I get it over the Razr Maxx?
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I'm bored, I'll bite.
1. I get about 3 hours of screen-on time with 3G, maybe an hour more if I'm on wifi. It will standby forever. Custom ROMs/kernels help a little with battery life, but not enough to really change your overall perception of the phone's longevity. I have the stock 1850mAH battery.
2. I generally doesn't display a signal as high as other Verizon phones, but some chock that up to other phones displaying the signal inaccurately. There are a very small amount of people who have legitimately low signal with their Nexus (which can be verified in dBm), and it's usually accepted that these units are defective. That said, I've had mine since 12/15/11, and I haven't dropped a single call or been without data.
3. It's got a nice form-factor (if you don't mind the plastic construction), the screen is great, and ICS rocks. I really like it.
4. RAZR MAXX has it on battery, that's about it. Ice Cream Sandwich is lightyears ahead of Gingerbread, especially with Moto not-blur and a locked bootloader. I wouldn't even consider owning a Gingerbread phone after having a Galaxy Nexus. The form factor is important; the software absolutely makes or breaks a device.
guess your right, I'll look around.
edit: Stad, read your post thanks. So it's not as bad as a thunderbolt (idk if you've owned one, it's like 7 hours w/ 4g minor minor usage). And it's not the best battery right? That's my deciding point right there.
Their is only 2 phones to buy.
A Nexus or an iphone.
Everything else is crap. Full of bloat and skins. Never see updates.
Lol, true.
I know there's always a bricking chance when screwing with root/bootloader shenanigans, but how safe is it on the Nexus?
Turb0wned said:
Their is only 2 phones to buy.
A Nexus or an iphone.
Everything else is crap. Full of bloat and skins. Never see updates.
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I totally agree. There are other phones I would consider owning, but only if these two weren't options.
edit: Stad, read your post thanks. So it's not as bad as a thunderbolt (idk if you've owned one, it's like 7 hours w/ 4g minor minor usage). And it's not the best battery right? That's my deciding point right there.
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Honestly I keep 4G off all the time unless I need the speed. I don't know about you, but I've found Verizon's 3G to have acceptable speeds for 99% of the situations I'm using it. The ROM I'm using (AOKP Milestone 3) has nice toggles in the pull-down notification bar, so it's really easy to turn LTE on and off if I need it.
I've heard of people getting better battery life. There's a guy over at Rootz who got 4h50m screen-on with AOKP and imoseyon's leanKernel on a standard battery, but I haven't been able to get anywhere close to that.
In real-world usage, the battery life is plenty. Yesterday I woke up at 4am and wasn't in bed until 11:30pm that night, and my phone still had 38% battery left when I crawled into bed. I forgot to plug it in when I fell asleep, and woke up to see it at 36% about 5 hours later. But, if it's not clear by now, not much of that was screen-on.
I know there's always a bricking chance when screwing with root/bootloader shenanigans, but how safe is it on the Nexus?
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Unless you pull your battery while flashing a bootloader (which you might do once or twice during the life of the phone, if at all), you'd have to be trying pretty hard to actually BRICK your Nexus. The bootloader is unlocked with a single line in fastboot mode, and ROM flashes-gone-bad can always be recovered as long as the bootloader is borked. This phone is ridiculously easy to modify.
That's great thanks for all the info.
Did the rootz guy run on 4g or was that 3g, I'll find out myself if u link the post.
Now to stare at the two phones for 8 hours and see what I choose, lol.
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That's great thanks for all the info.
Did the rootz guy run on 4g or was that 3g, I'll find out myself if u link the post.
Now to stare at the two phones for 8 hours and see what I choose, lol.
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No problem, enjoy whatever phone you end up getting.
Here's that post: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/16782-aokp-kernel-discussionthread/page__view__findpost__p__448613
In his own words,
Mostly 3g usage with some wifi used intermittently and a quick 4g download.
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Looks like he gave it a quick bump at some point during the day, though.
Okay, thanks. That's it for now thanks for fast replies.
This is on the GSM version, but I got 13 hours and 50 minutes of battery my firs day, with over 5.5 hours of screen on time. Pretty good, I'd say!
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i have been using the SGN a month now. here is my pro and con
pro:
4G speed
con:
no keyboard prediction on browser
no fixed landscape mode
no permanent desktop mode
3 hrs of web surfing
battery life on gaming? good luck
lag once in a while
photo from stock camera are little bit washout
no facebook sync
Once the signal got dropped, it takes a while to reconnect.
all in all, i need to charge 2 or 3 times per day on average use (my average use). if i dont see improvement on 4.0.4 or future update, i am moving to iphone 5. i have been using android over 2 yrs now and still havent find any advantage over iphone.
zeke1988 said:
i have been using the SGN a month now. here is my pro and con
pro:
4G speed
con:
no keyboard prediction on browser
no fixed landscape mode
no permanent desktop mode
3 hrs of web surfing
battery life on gaming? good luck
lag once in a while
photo from stock camera are little bit washout
no facebook sync
all in all, i need to charge 2 or 3 times per day on average use (my average use)
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Ouch. I'll take that into account. What do you mean by facebook sync? I can't sync friends on facebook to my phone?
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Ouch. I'll take that into account. What do you mean by facebook sync? I can't sync friends on facebook to my phone?
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contact sync, it connect your contacts with their facebook account. there are roms out there that has the fix and there are work around, but i dont like it.
ah okay got ya
zeke1988 said:
i have been using the SGN a month now. here is my pro and con
pro:
4G speed
con:
no keyboard prediction on browser
no fixed landscape mode
no permanent desktop mode
3 hrs of web surfing
battery life on gaming? good luck
lag once in a while
photo from stock camera are little bit washout
no facebook sync
Once the signal got dropped, it takes a while to reconnect.
all in all, i need to charge 2 or 3 times per day on average use (my average use). if i dont see improvement on 4.0.4 or future update, i am moving to iphone 5. i have been using android over 2 yrs now and still havent find any advantage over iphone.
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Sounds like you need to get a Droid Razr MAXX to address your battery issues. Maybe you guys can do a swap?
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This is on the GSM version, but I got 13 hours and 50 minutes of battery my firs day, with over 5.5 hours of screen on time. Pretty good, I'd say!
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What are your settings?
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Sounds like you need to get a Droid Razr MAXX. Maybe you guys can do a swap?
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I don't NEED one as my usage won't be enough to really use the 3300 mah battery but the Nexus battery seems enough for me and I can't wait to tweak it with better kernals.
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I don't NEED one as my usage won't be enough to really use the 3300 mah battery but the Nexus battery seems enough for me and I can't wait to tweak it with better kernals.
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My bad, I was talking to zeke1988. I added his quote to my post.
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What are your settings?
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I'm on Eagles Blood ROM, using Franco kernel. Stock clock with ondemand governor. All I did was undervolt 50mA across all frequencies. I was on wifi for most of the day since I was at home, but my typical work day doesn't put the battery under 50%.
The battery on this is way better than the one on my Amaze was, so that's all I really care about.
This is my first review of any ROM (been flashing and gnashing since the Vibrant) but, I'm compelled to review this one. Lets get to it.
I'm a pretty experienced flasher so, I've tried every ICS ROM that's came out for our phone. If you've been waiting for one with daily driver potential, stop waiting and flash this bad boy!
I've had it flashed for approximately 8 hours now and have put it through its paces. I've used the camera, restored my SMS messages, restored all my apps via Titanium, used Facebook, downloaded ****, tested GPS, and everything else I could think of to break this ROM. I'm pleased as punch to tell you all that I haven't had as much as a single FC or hiccup. (edit) My settings are 0% brightness, Auto-rotate on, GPS on, running almost solely on Wi-Fi with a black background to try and save battery life. I'm a heavy user so, I expect to take a massive hit in battery life compared to others (any recommendations on extended/expanded batteries people?). I've found that this thing sleeps like a baby, only losing about 6-7% battery over 5 hours.(/edit)
Even though I'm a bigger fan of Trebuchet Launcher, Apex is working very well. I've not experienced a single bit of lag or hesitation when switching or opening applications. Including the Swype installer was a fantastic touch and with Quickoffice left in the ROM, I'm a happy camper.
The only beef I have with this ROM and I'm sure that this is more a kernel thing than the ROM itself is that BLN support isn't included. I would also question (not being a Dev myself) if keeping TW launcher is really necessary in the ROM. I don't know how much of Samsung's TW framework is still being used in this ROM so, that's that.
I've included some screens to show you all. I'll add GPS and Quadrant tests later. All told, I'm happier than a priest in Boys Town and will continue to discover the power of the DARKSIDE!
UPDATE: I did experience two XDA FCs when I attempted to upload the screenshots for this post so, I added them in a separate post from my PC. Other than that, still no issues. I'm a very heavy user and after posting this review, taking screenies, testing GPS, Quadrant and a game, I'm down to 36% battery. I'm going to chalk that up to calibration and drain it dry before recharging it fully again and see if that helps battery life. If this review helped, just click the Thanks button!
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I flashed the ROM and had ALMOST the same experience. The one issue that I have found is that when I try to load games (specifically Where's My Water and Plants Vs Zombies,) they are bad. They take about 5-10 times longer to load than on Gingerbread, FC (only about 1/3 of the time) and loading in between levels is dramatically longer.
Could you test out one of those games by chance? If you don't own either, Where's My Water has a free version in Google Play. I'm just trying to see if it's an issue with the ROM or if I need to adjust how I installed it. TIA
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I flashed the ROM and had ALMOST the same experience. The one issue that I have found is that when I try to load games (specifically Where's My Water and Plants Vs Zombies,) they are bad. They take about 5-10 times longer to load than on Gingerbread, FC (only about 1/3 of the time) and loading in between levels is dramatically longer.
Could you test out one of those games by chance? If you don't own either, Where's My Water has a free version in Google Play. I'm just trying to see if it's an issue with the ROM or if I need to adjust how I installed it. TIA
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I just downloaded the trial of Where's My Water and installed it. Geebus Chribst that is a big ass game! It installed with no hiccups and while it does take awhile to load (I think that's normal, tbh) it played fine. I'd try doing a Darkside Wipe (even though the ROM has a script to do it) and re-flashing the ROM.
thanks for the review will flash it today ^_^
Going to install now.
This is such a great rom. Thank you for reviewing it! I flashed this rom last night since I was pretty excited BETA02 came out. Until then I was using BETA01. I haven't experienced any FC, everything is PERFECT except for two things which are not really the end of the world important, but they should be looked at. When i play games, specifically temple run, frames skip and the game lags but not too bad just skipping frames causing the game to be more harder to play. Also, I have observed that when you transition between screens slowly, or especially while reading an ebook, if you do not scroll somewhat fast, and you want to slowly move the screen as you read, the transitioning starts to lag and then doesnt move anymore until you move your finger fast again across the screen. This only happens with default system apps such as play store, web, home screen. I believe this could be easily fixed and that the developer might not have noticed it since no one would really think of this while developing a rom. Anyway, I would recommend this rom to anybody, I personally rate it a 4.7 out of 5 just because of those 2 issues. Everything else is just unbelievable and you have to flash it yourself to see how amazing it is! Best ICS ROM!
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Oh and, What application were you using to measure the accuracy of the GPS, and were you using APEX launcher, or a different one?
This is a pretty sweet rom-it works well and is just so fluid. no lag really compared to the stock GB build. It's just a shame that not all apps work on the rom.
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This is a pretty sweet rom-it works well and is just so fluid. no lag really compared to the stock GB build. It's just a shame that not all apps work on the rom.
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On evolution i got several errors on Apex launcher so i remove it and install tribuchet launcher.
On evolution 1 i got errors on gps sound. I havent tried on this beta 2. I will try tonite and let you all know.
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I love it.
and the dock audio works.
I'm using Apex launcher and I'm using GPS test from the play store.
I love Trebuchet but, Apex is growing on me.
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After a full day with beta02, I have to report that the battery life is incredible. I started the day at 100%. I'm beginning to think that the meter may not be accurate.
Bluetooth on all day; streaming for an hour or so. Little bit of WiFi in the morning and evening. Not much screen on time. One 15-20 minute phone call. Also, I have a 2100mah Verizon Galaxy Nexus battery squeezed into my phone. This is all on 3G too.
Overall, very impressive on a stock kernel. With similar usage I would be down in about the 30-40% range before.
Thanks for review. Any chance of you reviewing fox star tablet UI. It is really unique.
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All told, I got almost 36 hours of battery life with 2 hours of screen on-time. Very, very impressive
On one of the roms feature list it says "unsecured". What does that mean? Is that a bad thing?
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After a full day with beta02, I have to report that the battery life is incredible. I started the day at 100%. I'm beginning to think that the meter may not be accurate.
Bluetooth on all day; streaming for an hour or so. Little bit of WiFi in the morning and evening. Not much screen on time. One 15-20 minute phone call. Also, I have a 2100mah Verizon Galaxy Nexus battery squeezed into my phone. This is all on 3G too.
Overall, very impressive on a stock kernel. With similar usage I would be down in about the 30-40% range before.
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Lol, wait till you see day 2 After it settles in more!
It sleeps like a baby!
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Waiting for tonight's tmo based update
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New Update
I had a few problems with the AT&T based rom but they are all gone with this new update. This is by far the best rom I have ever used
I've had the Galaxy Nexus LTE for nearly 11 months on Verizon. I've done what I can to stem battery drain. At some point, I just gave up diagnosing the problem and started carrying 5-6 spare batteries with me. Some people claim one day's use; others report the same problems. I think it all depends on how we use our phones--eg do you take a lot of pictures--and what apps we have installed. I use the phone hard but not that hard. Sometimes the phone will burn the battery just being in the pocket.
I don't want this to be another Galaxy Nexus battery life sucks thread. What I want to know is whether the battery drain problem will be solved before we consider moving onto phones running 4.2.
Some of the drain is due to the terrible LTE radio. Phones with integrated chips have much less hardware drain.
But about the software drain? When I run GSam Battery Monitor, the number culprits seem to be Media Scanner (Server?), acore processes--contacts, user dictionary.
I've dialed down or turned off syncs as far as I reasonably can; are rogue apps causing problems or is the OS too easy to trip up?
If you search http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/list for "media battery," you see a lot of bug reports about the problem.
The Google Android team doesn't seem to care about these problems.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11731#c5
"I'm only posting this here for my own amusement. My track record with Android bug reports is that Google ignores them for 2 years and then closes them without taking any corrective action. Good luck everyone."
Here's a typical bug report from mid-2011, that is still labeled new and unassigned:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=18115
4.1.2 has the os drain:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=38720
Going into 4.2, how do we track these issues and see if they are getting fixed? I'm not a dev... The only way we can see the 4.2 source and commits is to clone the repo using git? Is there a friendly web interact through which we can see the changes?
Do we wait until 4.2 is released and see what defects are reported on the issue tracker?
Please don't let this be a typical battery life sucks thread, where people will
1) complain that they also have bad battery life
2) complaint that they have great battery life and don't see these problems
3) suggest debugging these problems with CPU SPY, BetterBatteryStats, etc
4) suggest fixing these problems with .nomedia
I want to know how we as users can track what Google is doing or has done to fix these problems in 4.2, so we, as Android devotees, can have faith in migrating to those devices.
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I've had the Galaxy Nexus LTE for nearly 11 months on Verizon. I've done what I can to stem battery drain. At some point, I just gave up diagnosing the problem and started carrying 5-6 spare batteries with me. Some people claim one day's use; others report the same problems. I think it all depends on how we use our phones--eg do you take a lot of pictures--and what apps we have installed. I use the phone hard but not that hard. Sometimes the phone will burn the battery just being in the pocket.
I don't want this to be another Galaxy Nexus battery life sucks thread. What I want to know is whether the battery drain problem will be solved before we consider moving onto phones running 4.2.
Some of the drain is due to the terrible LTE radio. Phones with integrated chips have much less hardware drain.
But about the software drain? When I run GSam Battery Monitor, the number culprits seem to be Media Scanner (Server?), acore processes--contacts, user dictionary.
I've dialed down or turned off syncs as far as I reasonably can; are rogue apps causing problems or is the OS too easy to trip up?
If you search http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/list for "media battery," you see a lot of bug reports about the problem.
The Google Android team doesn't seem to care about these problems.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11731#c5
"I'm only posting this here for my own amusement. My track record with Android bug reports is that Google ignores them for 2 years and then closes them without taking any corrective action. Good luck everyone."
Here's a typical bug report from mid-2011, that is still labeled new and unassigned:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=18115
4.1.2 has the os drain:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=38720
Going into 4.2, how do we track these issues and see if they are getting fixed? I'm not a dev... The only way we can see the 4.2 source and commits is to clone the repo using git? Is there a friendly web interact through which we can see the changes?
Do we wait until 4.2 is released and see what defects are reported on the issue tracker?
Please don't let this be a typical battery life sucks thread, where people will
1) complain that they also have bad battery life
2) complaint that they have great battery life and don't see these problems
3) suggest debugging these problems with CPU SPY, BetterBatteryStats, etc
4) suggest fixing these problems with .nomedia
I want to know how we as users can track what Google is doing or has done to fix these problems in 4.2, so we, as Android devotees, can have faith in migrating to those devices.
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Any Tom, ****, or Harry can post issues. Most of the time they don't have the technical knowledge to even know what a bug is. Don't confuse Google not caring vs. Google not willing to accept a ticket caused by something out of their control.
As for your case, you have a Verizon Nexus. They ALL suck on battery compared to other devices.
You say you don't want this to devolve into a typical battery thread but it will.
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***blah blah battery vampires***
I've had the Galaxy Nexus LTE for nearly 11 months on Verizon.
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no lte in the nexus 4, sounds like they chased off the battery sucker to me.
I'd you're using your phone as a laptop, it's time to buy a laptop. Otherwise, the turn if syncing for things you use once a day. Actively using data (especially over LTE) with a large screen burns battery on any device. If you are burning battery in your pocket, you either need to sync less or identify the rogue app that is doing the work. And Google does use the bug reports to make improvements. A recent bug in Chrome removed names from the shortcuts in the bookmarks bar and it was fixed within a week. Android rakes longer due to the wide spectrum of devices and overall update process. Bugs in an OS are a different beast than bugs in a browser.
From the sounds of things, you will have battery issues on any device.
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cry bro :crying:
simms22 said:
no lte in the nexus 4, sounds like they chased off the battery sucker to me.
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Qft
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adrynalyne said:
Any Tom, ****, or Harry can post issues. Most of the time they don't have the technical knowledge to even know what a bug is. Don't confuse Google not caring vs. Google not willing to accept a ticket caused by something out of their control.
As for your case, you have a Verizon Nexus. They ALL suck on battery compared to other devices.
You say you don't want this to devolve into a typical battery thread but it will.
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Go by the evidence. The Media Server / Scanner drain problem still exists in 4.1.2
Complaining about battery life on an LTE device is like dropping a 600HP engine in your car and complaining about your gas mileage going down.
So lets say an LTE phone has an enormous battery in it, this might give you "respectable" battery life... but take that same huge battery and put it in a GSM phone and watch the battery life go from "respectable" to "incredible".
If battery life is what you need... you might consider going GSM. With heavy use I usually end up at about 30-40% at the end of the day...
Of course, as stated above, the media scanner bug is still there... but from my experience, LTE is the biggest "battery vampire" by a landslide.
I can't wait to see how many "battery life sucks on N4" threads are created.
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I can't wait to see how many "battery life sucks on N4" threads are created.
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Oh it's coming... It's coming... Best believe it! Lol.
Honestly, it's just the way it is so ppl need to get over it. If they buy the Nexus and complain about the non-removable battery, then they should have gotten a different phone instead. Like an S3.
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Oh it's coming... It's coming... Best believe it! Lol.
Honestly, it's just the way it is so ppl need to get over it. If they buy the Nexus and complain about the non-removable battery, then they should have gotten a different phone instead. Like an S3.
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i thought that i would be complaining about the non removable battery in my nexus 7, but it doesnt bother me anymore
There's no lte buddy ur mistaken
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There's no lte buddy ur mistaken
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"5 or 6 spare batteries" ROFL.
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That's 4 days of actual on time (I turn it off at night, ~15 hours a day). That's closing in on what my old Nokia and Sony feature phones clocked in at.
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That's 4 days of actual on time (I turn it off at night, ~15 hours a day). That's closing in on what my old Nokia and Sony feature phones clocked in at.
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First, turning it off at night, makes your "4 days" statement entirely false, automatically. Second, 1 hour 20 minutes screen on time is terrible, even for a known battery sucker like the gnex. Third, the only thing might slightly warrant a pardon for that screen on time, would be the fact that you did get over 2 days on it, if not for Fourth (and finally) the fact that your phone clearly shows that your didn't use it at all.
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First, turning it off at night, makes your "4 days" statement entirely false, automatically. Second, 1 hour 20 minutes screen on time is terrible, even for a known battery sucker like the gnex. Third, the only thing might slightly warrant a pardon for that screen on time, would be the fact that you did get over 2 days on it, if not for Fourth (and finally) the fact that your phone clearly shows that your didn't use it at all.
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4 days of my use, where is there false information? Still on the same charge, 1 hour 41 mins now. 61 hours with real world use is not bad, especially since despite you seemingly knowing how I use my phone, I was using it for texting, a few calls, I used google maps, updated some stuff and other random crap. A lot can be done in an hour and a half.
And finally, the entire point of this thread is the android process sucking up battery, which is why I posted a picture showing the contrary. How about you find something credible to ***** about.
Maybe if you stop using that ugly, bloated, stupid ROM your Android process usage will be reduced.
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Maybe if you stop using that ugly, bloated, stupid ROM your Android process usage will be reduced.
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Hahaa yessss!!!
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Hey all,
Just wondering how people are doing on battery life after the update. I moved from BoneStock back to the stock(ish) ROM, and I personally am struggling on battery life right now. It is early though and I'll make adjustments. Just wondering how it's going for everyone else.
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bigperm71 said:
Hey all,
Just wondering how people are doing on battery life after the update. I moved from BoneStock back to the stock(ish) ROM, and I personally am struggling on battery life right now. It is early though and I'll make adjustments. Just wondering how it's going for everyone else.
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May be hard to compare a stock non-rooted phone to a custom ROM even if it stock. Seems like every dev puts in something "for better battery life"
I'm stock, locked, S-On, 4.4 and my battery life is great. Though I'm comparing it to my old phone, Rezound, where I couldn't get out my front door without it dropping 10%
I make it through a full day no problems and I'd consider myself an "average" user.
bigperm71 said:
Hey all,
Just wondering how people are doing on battery life after the update. I moved from BoneStock back to the stock(ish) ROM, and I personally am struggling on battery life right now. It is early though and I'll make adjustments. Just wondering how it's going for everyone else.
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I haven't noticed a huge difference, but Bonestock 4.3 was definitely better. I'm on NuSense which isn't stock but it's pretty close with a few optimizations. Are you checking in the stats to see if it's an app that's killing your battery? I've had a few occasions when Google location services killed my battery for no apparent reason.
I haven't spent much time yet trying to identify and fix the issues, but I'll start looking at it. I wonder what it is they do to improve the battery life in the custom roms...
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I tried the phone back when it was 4.2 and battery was not great, could barely make it till end of work.
Now on 4.4 battery has improved quite a bit. Can easily make it til end of day. Btw I'm s-off stock no root.
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My wife's on a totally stock version of the phone, with the latest OTA. I'm on Santod's odexed rooted version of the OTA. 3.11.605.1 in both cases.
We're both seeing a slight decrease in battery life, but nothing too significant.
It's hard to compare battery life because I'm constantly messing with my phone, playing games, changing icon sets, making and deleting widgets etc., while my wife uses hers for phone calls and email and pretty much nothing else. She's never installed an app. I was going to S-off her phone, just to have it done, but our daughter installed the first OTA update before I got around to it. (The 2.10.605.1). She's 9, and enjoys showing my wife how to do stuff on her phone. Stuff that my wife then enjoys forgetting.
Having said that it's hard to compare battery life, I'll do just that. She gets better life than I do, and could likely go 48 hours on a charge. Her biggest power user is the email function - which is the stock email app that came with the phone.
Battery Guru used to tell me I could go 32 hours on a charge, but after flashing Santod's latest ROM I had to uninstall and reinstall it, and so far it's not giving me the same projected life numbers as it used to. I don't mean it's projecting less hours, I mean it's not giving hours of life expectancy at all. I can't remember if it took a few days last time before it started giving the projections - I only flashed the ROM last Friday.
Before the update I would be at somewhere between 70-80% at the end of a day, my wife would be 80+%. Now I'm closer to 60%, she's in the 70's.
My battery life may well improve still with Battery Guru. Would it make sense to re-install it on her phone and let it "learn" all over again?
the 4.4 update is draining too fast.
I went from the 4.2.2 BoneStock ROM to the new 4.4 version and my battery life easily doubled. I can make it about 28 hours on a full charge.
battery in 4.4 is s*ck.
i would prefer 4.3 for the battery life.
I noticed actually better battery life for 4.4 on bonestock. Im running with the elemental kernel and underclocked it, also i have some tweaks in tasker that keep my phone pretty efficient. overall i'm seeing around anywhere from 15 to 20 hours of battery life with depending on how long i have my bluetooth on and other things like that. ill post a screen shot later when i get home of my actual times.
I am having the strangest battery drain 4.4.2. 6-8 hours with less than an hour of screen time
I text a pretty good bit throughout the day and my battery life seems to go pretty quickly:/ I'm completely stock as well no root or anything.....yet. I'm hoping once they get a root/s-off/unlock method out for the 4.4.2/sense5.5 software, that I can do a custom Rom and fix all that.
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I text a pretty good bit throughout the day and my battery life seems to go pretty quickly:/ I'm completely stock as well no root or anything.....yet. I'm hoping once they get a root/s-off/unlock method out for the 4.4.2/sense5.5 software, that I can do a custom Rom and fix all that.
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With pretty heavy use I tend to see between 6 and 9% per hour according to better battery stats. My screen on percentage is probably within 18 to % most of the time. I'm running rooted stock with xposed and a tweak to stock that allows me to select power saver mode in settings.
blkhrt13 said:
I text a pretty good bit throughout the day and my battery life seems to go pretty quickly:/ I'm completely stock as well no root or anything.....yet. I'm hoping once they get a root/s-off/unlock method out for the 4.4.2/sense5.5 software, that I can do a custom Rom and fix all that.
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temporary fix:
-Settings->Data Usage->(dots)->Restrict background data (yes this does make it harder to synchronize content)
-wifi off (if you have more than one bar of signal)
That temporary fix boosted my battery from a days use to two days. I blame Verizon for wakelocking our phone.
Hi there! Well, I consider myself an average user. Take a look at the screen shot. Numbers talk the best
BTW my SGN II gets about 5 hours of screen on time and has much bigger battery, so I'm happy with what I get on my One running 4.4.2 with sense 6.0 by hawk and ecliptic team powered by Lunar Ellie oc.
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I am having pretty good battery on 4.4. Can't complain since it lasts me all day.
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I am having pretty good battery on 4.4. Can't complain since it lasts me all day.
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I think this should be the best phone for last year. S4 is overated for me since they have added a lot of stuff that we do not really use. here with my HTC one, it is customized the way we use it. And I can say the best part is that my battery can last for a day if my internet is off. If I'm casually using it with internet, it can run for almost 8 hours.
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I think this should be the best phone for last year. S4 is overated for me since they have added a lot of stuff that we do not really use. here with my HTC one, it is customized the way we use it. And I can say the best part is that my battery can last for a day if my internet is off. If I'm casually using it with internet, it can run for almost 8 hours.
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I had the S4 and sold it. I also have a note 3 and before those I had the note2. Htc is a nice change from TW. It gets me through 11 hr work days +some relax time in it .
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I'm pretty happy with this.
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