This is my first review of any ROM (been flashing and gnashing since the Vibrant) but, I'm compelled to review this one. Lets get to it.
I'm a pretty experienced flasher so, I've tried every ICS ROM that's came out for our phone. If you've been waiting for one with daily driver potential, stop waiting and flash this bad boy!
I've had it flashed for approximately 8 hours now and have put it through its paces. I've used the camera, restored my SMS messages, restored all my apps via Titanium, used Facebook, downloaded ****, tested GPS, and everything else I could think of to break this ROM. I'm pleased as punch to tell you all that I haven't had as much as a single FC or hiccup. (edit) My settings are 0% brightness, Auto-rotate on, GPS on, running almost solely on Wi-Fi with a black background to try and save battery life. I'm a heavy user so, I expect to take a massive hit in battery life compared to others (any recommendations on extended/expanded batteries people?). I've found that this thing sleeps like a baby, only losing about 6-7% battery over 5 hours.(/edit)
Even though I'm a bigger fan of Trebuchet Launcher, Apex is working very well. I've not experienced a single bit of lag or hesitation when switching or opening applications. Including the Swype installer was a fantastic touch and with Quickoffice left in the ROM, I'm a happy camper.
The only beef I have with this ROM and I'm sure that this is more a kernel thing than the ROM itself is that BLN support isn't included. I would also question (not being a Dev myself) if keeping TW launcher is really necessary in the ROM. I don't know how much of Samsung's TW framework is still being used in this ROM so, that's that.
I've included some screens to show you all. I'll add GPS and Quadrant tests later. All told, I'm happier than a priest in Boys Town and will continue to discover the power of the DARKSIDE!
UPDATE: I did experience two XDA FCs when I attempted to upload the screenshots for this post so, I added them in a separate post from my PC. Other than that, still no issues. I'm a very heavy user and after posting this review, taking screenies, testing GPS, Quadrant and a game, I'm down to 36% battery. I'm going to chalk that up to calibration and drain it dry before recharging it fully again and see if that helps battery life. If this review helped, just click the Thanks button!
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I flashed the ROM and had ALMOST the same experience. The one issue that I have found is that when I try to load games (specifically Where's My Water and Plants Vs Zombies,) they are bad. They take about 5-10 times longer to load than on Gingerbread, FC (only about 1/3 of the time) and loading in between levels is dramatically longer.
Could you test out one of those games by chance? If you don't own either, Where's My Water has a free version in Google Play. I'm just trying to see if it's an issue with the ROM or if I need to adjust how I installed it. TIA
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I flashed the ROM and had ALMOST the same experience. The one issue that I have found is that when I try to load games (specifically Where's My Water and Plants Vs Zombies,) they are bad. They take about 5-10 times longer to load than on Gingerbread, FC (only about 1/3 of the time) and loading in between levels is dramatically longer.
Could you test out one of those games by chance? If you don't own either, Where's My Water has a free version in Google Play. I'm just trying to see if it's an issue with the ROM or if I need to adjust how I installed it. TIA
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I just downloaded the trial of Where's My Water and installed it. Geebus Chribst that is a big ass game! It installed with no hiccups and while it does take awhile to load (I think that's normal, tbh) it played fine. I'd try doing a Darkside Wipe (even though the ROM has a script to do it) and re-flashing the ROM.
thanks for the review will flash it today ^_^
Going to install now.
This is such a great rom. Thank you for reviewing it! I flashed this rom last night since I was pretty excited BETA02 came out. Until then I was using BETA01. I haven't experienced any FC, everything is PERFECT except for two things which are not really the end of the world important, but they should be looked at. When i play games, specifically temple run, frames skip and the game lags but not too bad just skipping frames causing the game to be more harder to play. Also, I have observed that when you transition between screens slowly, or especially while reading an ebook, if you do not scroll somewhat fast, and you want to slowly move the screen as you read, the transitioning starts to lag and then doesnt move anymore until you move your finger fast again across the screen. This only happens with default system apps such as play store, web, home screen. I believe this could be easily fixed and that the developer might not have noticed it since no one would really think of this while developing a rom. Anyway, I would recommend this rom to anybody, I personally rate it a 4.7 out of 5 just because of those 2 issues. Everything else is just unbelievable and you have to flash it yourself to see how amazing it is! Best ICS ROM!
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Oh and, What application were you using to measure the accuracy of the GPS, and were you using APEX launcher, or a different one?
This is a pretty sweet rom-it works well and is just so fluid. no lag really compared to the stock GB build. It's just a shame that not all apps work on the rom.
kCelsius said:
This is a pretty sweet rom-it works well and is just so fluid. no lag really compared to the stock GB build. It's just a shame that not all apps work on the rom.
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I am always dan of Darkside ROms.
On evolution i got several errors on Apex launcher so i remove it and install tribuchet launcher.
On evolution 1 i got errors on gps sound. I havent tried on this beta 2. I will try tonite and let you all know.
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I love it.
and the dock audio works.
I'm using Apex launcher and I'm using GPS test from the play store.
I love Trebuchet but, Apex is growing on me.
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After a full day with beta02, I have to report that the battery life is incredible. I started the day at 100%. I'm beginning to think that the meter may not be accurate.
Bluetooth on all day; streaming for an hour or so. Little bit of WiFi in the morning and evening. Not much screen on time. One 15-20 minute phone call. Also, I have a 2100mah Verizon Galaxy Nexus battery squeezed into my phone. This is all on 3G too.
Overall, very impressive on a stock kernel. With similar usage I would be down in about the 30-40% range before.
Thanks for review. Any chance of you reviewing fox star tablet UI. It is really unique.
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All told, I got almost 36 hours of battery life with 2 hours of screen on-time. Very, very impressive
On one of the roms feature list it says "unsecured". What does that mean? Is that a bad thing?
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After a full day with beta02, I have to report that the battery life is incredible. I started the day at 100%. I'm beginning to think that the meter may not be accurate.
Bluetooth on all day; streaming for an hour or so. Little bit of WiFi in the morning and evening. Not much screen on time. One 15-20 minute phone call. Also, I have a 2100mah Verizon Galaxy Nexus battery squeezed into my phone. This is all on 3G too.
Overall, very impressive on a stock kernel. With similar usage I would be down in about the 30-40% range before.
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Lol, wait till you see day 2 After it settles in more!
It sleeps like a baby!
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t989 tripping on the DARKSIDE
Waiting for tonight's tmo based update
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New Update
I had a few problems with the AT&T based rom but they are all gone with this new update. This is by far the best rom I have ever used
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Now, I do use my phone pretty heavily. My girlfriend and I text back and forth about every 2-5 minutes, all day, which will surely rape some of my battery. In addition to that, I do things like surf the internet, market, Gmail, no music, rarely games.
Is there any kernel, or ROM/kernel combination that has users getting >20 hours on a full charge with heavy usage? I always see people getting it with what they claim as "moderate" usage or they'll post screens and their phone is like 40% idle, 40% standby, which is silly.
Just wondering.
It is...on CM7...with Tiamat kernel...19 hrs at 55% left, 3.3.5, non-sbc. ; moderate usage.
With heavy usage, I had around 18hrs @ 35% left.
I knew CM7 had far superior battery life to Sense ROMs, but only tried SZ with it, not Tiamat. Guess I'll give it a go for a few days and see what happens!
That whole some users experiencing dead SD cards issue kind of worries me, but nothing a new SD card can't fix! Ha.
I see some people sticking with RC2 instead of going up to RC4. I know thgre's a changelog I can check, but is there a particular reason some people are sticking with an earlier release other than that they might not necessarily need the new things added in a later RC? Does RC2 have more stability or something?
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I knew CM7 had far superior battery life to Sense ROMs, but only tried SZ with it, not Tiamat. Guess I'll give it a go for a few days and see what happens!
That whole some users experiencing dead SD cards issue kind of worries me, but nothing a new SD card can't fix! Ha.
I see some people sticking with RC2 instead of going up to RC4. I know thgre's a changelog I can check, but is there a particular reason some people are sticking with an earlier release other than that they might not necessarily need the new things added in a later RC? Does RC2 have more stability or something?
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CM7 final is out, and tiamat is FTW.
totalanonymity said:
I knew CM7 had far superior battery life to Sense ROMs, but only tried SZ with it, not Tiamat. Guess I'll give it a go for a few days and see what happens!
That whole some users experiencing dead SD cards issue kind of worries me, but nothing a new SD card can't fix! Ha.
I see some people sticking with RC2 instead of going up to RC4. I know thgre's a changelog I can check, but is there a particular reason some people are sticking with an earlier release other than that they might not necessarily need the new things added in a later RC? Does RC2 have more stability or something?
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Some people are just clinging to it, and don't like change, or they're content with what it offers. Use the CM7 final that was released, along with the Tiamat kernel, you'll be good to go.
Didn't know final was out! (I don't follow CM much.)
Thanks for the tip!
Will certainly flash it tonight!
This was the best I have ever seen my phone do. I didn't use it heavy, just somewhat moderate. Typically with this same combo I will burn through a whole battery in less than 8hrs at work. Of course I am streaming Pandora/Slacker or on PowerAmp alot. But this screenshot was on Myn's Warm Z Nightly with kernel netarchy-toastmod-4.3.2-cfs-nohavs-nosbc-suv-universal-signed. Set Cpu running 1036max/38400min OnDemand and a screen off profile of 652max/245min. The only things autosyncing are Google acct, HTC sense and everything else is manual on my phone.
Of course being in a strong signal/service area is key. At work my signal is weak at best and we have no wifi . This particular stretch of time I was at home for a bit (ok signal) and my in laws (strong signal) working on their car for 5-6hrs. I Then of course let it sit unplugged all night. But I did a lil web browsing, searching, games and otherwise calls and texts. I was pleasantly surprised. If I was in a good service area at all times I'm sure I could run my phone 10-12hrs on heavy use.
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could easily with an extended battery.
madflasher said:
could easily with an extended battery.
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I don't see the point in spending some money on an extended when I'm just gonna go get the EVO 3D when it releases. I'll just spend my time trying to find the best combination for me.
try calibrating.
full charge...after light turns green check with battery monitor widget
then clear battery stats, unplug
use the **** out of it till it hits the redzone
plug back in full charge again *checking charge*
see how it lasts...
Ih they're using the same battery and there bit expensive anyway...
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CM7 Final with Tiamat is the way to go!
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CM7 Final with Tiamat is the way to go!
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Enough said!
I would highly recommend setcpu. I do the same thing as you, mainly use my phone for a lot of texting, and maybe 20 mins of internet a day. I have my setcpu set to 384mhz when the screen is off. This alone saves a TON of battery during the day, and doesnt affect any apps or anything else. I also have step down profiles, so if the battery gets under 60%, it throttles down to around 700mhz, at 40% it throttles down to 500 mhz, etc.
I am currently on cm7, and I can easily go a day and a half without a charge. But when I was on Myn's rom, I could go almost 3 full days.
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Ih they're using the same battery and there bit expensive anyway...
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Are we sure the battery is the same size? Another forum said the pics showed a square shaped battery. I know it's supposed to be more mah than current evo battery. But maybe they are confirmed to be the same size and I just missed that info.
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CM7 with stock kernEl here
20 to 30 hrs batt
trick was to delete the /data/system/batterystats.bin file only when phone was at 100% charge
BOOM
teh roxxorz said:
It is...on CM7...with Tiamat kernel...19 hrs at 55% left, 3.3.5, non-sbc. ; moderate usage.
With heavy usage, I had around 18hrs @ 35% left.
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could u post a download link to that kernel?
and also i have a question im running cm7rc4 do i just flash the kernel
or do i have to do anything b4 that cause it does have the rom kernel
any advice would be great
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Why not use something like gvnotifier to send/receive texts using your google voice number. The program runs in the task tray area of windows and integrates very nicely with google voice.
http://www.daveamenta.com/products/gvnotifier/
The only issue is texts you send will not be stored on your phone. Both however are available via the website at google.com/voice .
Most of my texts conversations are relatively unimportant, so saving is not vital.
Funnily enough, just the next charge, I got 23 hours on Warm 2.2. Moderate usage, though, not heavy usage.
gpz1100 said:
Why not use something like gvnotifier to send/receive texts using your google voice number. The program runs in the task tray area of windows and integrates very nicely with google voice.
http://www.daveamenta.com/products/gvnotifier/
The only issue is texts you send will not be stored on your phone. Both however are available via the website at google.com/voice .
Most of my texts conversations are relatively unimportant, so saving is not vital.
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GVoice has always had such a terrible wakelock for me. Like, the wakelock was the amount of time since it had started the process!!!
I use an SBC kernel, but I didn't for awhile. Here's what I did:
1. Turn off mobile data when you're not using it. Background data takes up a lot of battery.
2. Turn down the screen brightness.
3. Keep screen off as much as possible. My best, with SBC, battery test is nearly two days and my screen-on time is only like 7 hours. Use it for what you need it for then turn the screen off. Display is one of the biggest battery users.
4. Don't use haptic feedback or vibrate. It takes more battery than making noise. Since you're a heavy texter, like myself, this won't seem like it's helping, but it is.
5. Get a kernel that undervolts. That user up there who said use SetCPU to underclock when your phone display is off is basically doing what kernels that has undervolt does manually. Undervolting does it automatically.
6. In my personal experience: CFS > BFS. I'm not sure why, I'm not a kernel specialist, but I use what works best for my phone (0004 Hardware).
If I were to give you a suggestion, it'd be Netarchy 4.3.4 CFS-Mor-Havs-NoSBC. It's in beta but I've been using the SBC version for a month now and it seems to be the best bet for Sense users. I don't know AOSP at all, so I'm unhelpful if you use that.
Evo 4G bad.
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I haven't ever had FANTASTIC battery life like I'm seeing from some folks around here... when I first started on Starburst (I didn't keep stock for more than about four hours), I was at around 70% at the same time. I'm currently on Calkulin's 2.0.0; about to revert to Starburst and see if it's ROM-related, now that I've given Calkulin's about a week with a calibration to no effect.
I'm currently undervolted by -75 on all steps, and this seems to have made it WORSE if anything, which I didn't think was possible for undervolting to do. I've been monitoring things fairly closely with Watchdog, and nothing jumps out at me. The phone signal in the pic doesn't look good, but I've been in all the same places as I was when I was getting much better life.
What interests me is that I'm seeing absolutely no usage-based change in battery life. Until that sudden dip you see up there, it was going down at the exact same rate whether I was using it or it was sitting on my desk doing absolutely nothing.
That dip started after I played Fieldrunners HD for about ten minutes during a break at work. After I stopped playing, battery life went into a continuous plummet.
I use Tasker (extensively) to keep things in check; generally speaking, nothing is active unless it needs to be, except for Wi-Fi which is always active as it's my primary method of detecting my locations.
Am I missing something simple-stupid here? If not, anyone got any ideas, assuming going back to Starburst doesn't magically fix it?
Not sure if this will help, but improved my battery.
(1) go to your email setting for each account and change sync update, I believe by default it's set up to check every 15 minutes. With 10 email accounts, it took a toll on my my battery. I changed all my accounts to 4 hours.
(2) best way to kill a task is by holding down home button, going to task manager and kill from there. Market task killers were making things worse for me.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the thoughts! Sadly, neither of those really apply in my case. I stick with with the default Gmail app, which is all push, and I don't use task killers at all.
I'm running the stock rom with a custom kernel. I did notice that as soon as I went from stock to a different kernel I started to lose battery life. Maybe its something Samsung did? I am still a novice with Roms and what not, but nothing like this happened on my original Epic or my Hero. Maybe the yellow triangle isn't the only thing Samsung put in there.
Maybe the aggressive undervolt is causing your phone to ramp up to a higher state to perform the tasks? That drop is steep with how little screen on time you have
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Maybe the aggressive undervolt is causing your phone to ramp up to a higher state to perform the tasks? That drop is steep with how little screen on time you have
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For as little as I know, that certainly sounds logical. I still wasn't getting as good as I would've expected even the UV, though.
I just flashed the EK02 modem with today's wonderful developments; I'm going to wait and see if that gets me better reception and thus better life. If not... now I'm not sure whether to try the new ROM first, or scale back the UVs. I want to try one thing at a time, since it's not urgent that I have good battery life ASAP. This gets me through my day, currently, more or less; I'd like to try and find my root cause so that I'm not just trying things wildly in the future.
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For as little as I know, that certainly sounds logical. I still wasn't getting as good as I would've expected even the UV, though.
I just flashed the EK02 modem with today's wonderful developments; I'm going to wait and see if that gets me better reception and thus better life. If not... now I'm not sure whether to try the new ROM first, or scale back the UVs. I want to try one thing at a time, since it's not urgent that I have good battery life ASAP. This gets me through my day, currently, more or less; I'd like to try and find my root cause so that I'm not just trying things wildly in the future.
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Well, the good thing is that as of today, its possible to return back to bone stock and start again so you can mess with a few setups and see what works best for you. I have found that this is the first phone that uses the frequencies well. I haven't undervolted at all yet and I have had great battery life. I did the standard delete Sprint bloat, Social Hub and associated apps, Maps, etc. Also, get BetterBatteryStats. It may give you some insight into what's happening.
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How you return to bone stock? By applying the update?
Odin this
Przekret posted what appears to be a full EG30 RAR archive
Przekret - EG30 full - [post] [direct dl]
- RAR Pass: sampro.pl
- extract HOME.tar from rar file and flash in ODIN using PDA button
- does NOT include data.img so your userdata is preserved
- qbking77 installation video
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1381494
Then update to EK02
Got very slightly better today after flashing the EK02 kernel. 23% at the same time instead of 18%... anything could account for that 5%, though, so I don't really think EK02 had any effect on this. Zedomax kernel with stock voltages is next.
CPU boots pro
(From the market & assuming your rooted)
Settings
~Screen off profile max800 min200
~GPU to Conservative max1000 min800
~Nitrous Widget GPU to on demand max1400 min1000
What this should do is downclock your device when on standby by alot. Second for phone calls and daily stuff a clock of 1k will be silky smooth and be a small downclock. Third when you set up the nitrous widget and activate it you will overclock to 1.4k which is stoopid fast my quad score is at 1.4k I get 4500 scores at 1.6k oc but forget batt when I'm using the nitrous. I like too personally keep my phone at a clock of 800 for daily phone calls and web surfing... if I play a graphic intense game ill oc it with nitrous and not worry about burning up my phone because if I set the phone down it downclocks as soon as it stands by and will pick right back up when I'm ready.
Hope it helps here's pics.
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Batt life on my day off doing nothing but trolling forums at 800 clock.... I was on my phone like six hours straight while waiting for jury duty selection to be done.
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Wolf we need to see your app and process details page. I bet your Android OS and cell standby are much higher than they should be.
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Wolf we need to see your app and process details page. I bet your Android OS and cell standby are much higher than they should be.
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If you're talking about the page I think you are, it'll have to wait until at least morning. I just did a full charge.
To wit... I spent 43 minutes on a phone call, and lost almost the same as what I normally lose in that same time period. 6% for a 43 minute call; I'm averaging 5%/hr loss doing NOTHING.
@Dchibro, assuming that's true, what would it mean for me? Does it give me a solution?
So, doing a bit of my own detective work... I've had Watchdog installed for about three days, with aggressive monitoring. I was almost immediately getting a bunch of alerts for two processes:
I initially whitelisted them through Watchdog, dismissing them as system processes that unavoidably needed to run. However, the comment from Dchibro got me thinking and sent me back to those, and I started Googling around. Here's what I've turned up so far:
http://goo.gl/Hsvej (HUGE thread on the issue in SGS2 forums. Haven't had a chance to go through all this yet.)
http://goo.gl/kUcqx (SGS2 forums.)
http://goo.gl/mlWW4 (Nook Color forums.)
http://goo.gl/mNiId (My Google search results.)
Gonna try some of the suggestions on here and see what I turn up. For now, I'm returning to stock voltages, implementing a bunch of those changes and keeping everything else as it is now to see where I end up. Phone will be charged to 100% before bed tonight, and I'll post sometime tomorrow with my findings.
Wish me luck!
So, in stead of waking up to 50% this morning, I woke up to 86%! Which is the same I went to bed at. Six hours of sleep, not a single percent lost. If nothing else, I learned from all this that I can reboot the phone when this bug hits me and and get away from it.
As I suspected. Your Watchdog shot clearly shows that you are/were (sounds like a reboot solved your issue at least temporarily) suffering from the Android OS bug. This bug presents itself most prominently in the suspend and events/0 processes. Unfortunately, a conclusive solution has not been found, but there are some things you can do to hunt the problem down.
This is the best post/thread I've found regarding the AOS bug on Galaxy SII phones ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290020
Im one week into my new sgs2 running full stock. What should normal battery use be? I feel my battery drains too fast. Here is my usage summary since full charge couple hours ago.
I charged too 100%, shutdown, then charged to 100%, powered up and used the phone very sparingly since. Battery is at 91%
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As I suspected. Your Watchdog shot clearly shows that you are/were (sounds like a reboot solved your issue at least temporarily) suffering from the Android OS bug. This bug presents itself most prominently in the suspend and events/0 processes. Unfortunately, a conclusive solution has not been found, but there are some things you can do to hunt the problem down.
This is the best post/thread I've found regarding the AOS bug on Galaxy SII phones ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290020
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That bug gave me nightmares on my OG Epic.
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Definitely seeing a bit of an improvement, here.
Watchdog alerted me to the suspend and event/0 stuff again about an hour ago, but I quickly rebooted and nothing seems to have come of it. I'm going to try to make a Tasker profile to do this automatically, kinda like Viper's LoS script.
All in all, I'm considering this a mostly satisfactory alternative to draining 80% of my battery with almost no use in eight hours.
ICS is really taking a long time to be release there's tons of bugs and its really not as nice as people thinks, its a little over rated, I know things take time but when you get paid to sit and work on phones I don't think it should took this long, its been months now, for ICS to be as simple as it looks it really shouldn't have taken this long.... ICS on HTC EVO LTE may make a hugh difference though and there's a million reasons why.....
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Considering very few phones, if any really, have actually received an update to ICS, and the few that have had little success due to rushing.
We have few bugs in our latest ICS builds, much better shape than several OTA releases have had in the past.
LG released Gingerbread for the Optimus S last year and it completely screwed that phone up. Took 8 months to release a fix, and they lost all customer support.
They are testing and rebuilding a ROM to ensure it works, you must give it time.
Truuuuuuueeeeeee good point maybe i'm just impatient
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ICS to be as simple as it looks it really shouldn't have taken this long...
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ICS isn't as simple as it looks. There are quite a few changes and issues need to be ironed out before pushing out an OTA. Not everyone is into modding and SamSprint doesn't want to anger the average user who knows nothing about how their phone works.
Most of us are impatient for the update though
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So, what exactly is "bugging" you about the ICS leaks we have so far anways? lol I mean I'm on aosp now so I'm not sure, but ICS has been stable and perfectly useable for several months now. Even that silly notification bug has been fixed right? So, better question would be, what exactly are you waiting to be fixed with the ICS that's out? Pretty sure most of us are mainly waiting for the official kernel source to be released so kernel devs can go mad wild and make things even better.
Indeed.. what are the "tons of bugs?"
It's completely usable as a daily now. The bugs are mere annoyances.
We need the OTA so the devs have access to the ICS source code. Without true source most of what they do is workarounds, not bug removal. It will allow us to flash between roms without having to go back to stock every time. Read a few forums this stuff is being said in almost every forum in development.
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Well I shouldn't said tons of bugs but that battery life is horrible
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My battery lasts around 24 hours before it dies. I am at 1hr talk time, 1 hour screen on time, and I got over 170 emails today, as well as 400 text in/out. That's not bad battery life at all. and I played some angry birds, robot unicorn attack, and temple run. I am at 50% even.
Kve heard battery life is approaching, if not passed, that of gingerbread builds, well, as far as being on stand-by goes anyways
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Well I shouldn't said tons of bugs but that battery life is horrible
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Have you actually used an ICS rom or are you just making things up? I have very few bugs if any and battery life has been on par with any other android device I've used.
Have to keep in mind general use cases. Both my sister and my dad have the E4GT. Both have seen Touchwiz based ICS roms running on my phone and pulled the "I'm not sure I like all these changes" card. They are used to their phone as it is now and apprehensive about radical changes like ICS really brought to Android phones (Honeycomb isn't all that different from ICS). Sprint and Samsung have to keep these users in mind as they are likely a much larger user base than those of us here at XDA that root and flash our phones on a regular basis.
I'm as eager for source to drop as the next guy. Kind of wish Sprint and Sammy would through a back channel for those of us addicted to this stuff but we have to wait for them to make sure its all shored up and ready for the masses like my dad and sister.
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My battery lasts around 24 hours before it dies. I am at 1hr talk time, 1 hour screen on time, and I got over 170 emails today, as well as 400 text in/out. That's not bad battery life at all. and I played some angry birds, robot unicorn attack, and temple run. I am at 50% even.
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Lies.. Must have a extended battery or something no way 24hrs gtfoh
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Lies.. Must have a extended battery or something no way 24hrs gtfoh
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You shouldn't accuse someone of lying just because what they report seems impossible to you. That is completely immature and adds nothing positive to the discussion.
For the record there are a lot of people on ICS ROMs getting incredible battery life. I myself once had a battery charge last for almost 3 days before I finally killed it by playing a movie through Netflix.
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You shouldn't accuse someone of lying just because what they report seems impossible to you. That is completely immature and adds nothing positive to the discussion.
For the record there are a lot of people on ICS ROMs getting incredible battery life. I myself once had a battery charge last for almost 3 days before I finally killed it by playing a movie through Netflix.
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I average about 1 hour more of screen time no matter how I use my phone. The drain seems faster from 100-80% but after that its great. If I let it drain to 10-15% left I seem to end up with better numbers every time
I dont understand all the complaints lately, the leaks have been such great fun and they are stable enough for daily use. Yes battery life was bad in March but 24 hours is easy now with medium use and selective apps on a normal battery.
I use an FE10 based rom and the performance is great, very stable and absolutely no issues with battery life. Just as good as gingerbread in battery life in my experience.
If you think they are moving too slowly....you do it!
I hate it when people come into my job..complaining about how I'm not moving fast enough, or how pajama pants aren't appropriate attire for work, or how its rude to talk to a customer with 3/4's of a muffin in your mouth, or how "state law" says your not supposed to smoke inside....blah blah blah.
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Lies.. Must have a extended battery or something no way 24hrs gtfoh
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I went 31 hours, 1 Hour of Screen on, 3 phone calls 5 texts a few emails finished it off remoting into my server on 4g and doing a tiny bit of work till it hit 15% just 2 days ago.
That was on CM9 Alpha 4 but I have demonstrated the same light usage mostly standby scenario on the TW leaks twice.
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If your light usage is horrible you might considering lowering the screen brightness from 100%, things like that lol. Dont run your battery down any further than you ever have to. 40% is a good charge point but 15% when thats not a reality. You can murder a battery in 2 months by letting it run all the way down to say 4 to 0%. I have a feeling I will need a new one in about a year but most my cell phone and laptop batteries have lasted me 3 years or more the way I treat them.
I can very easily kill my battery in 4.5 to 8 hours if I need to use it alot.
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If you think they are moving too slowly....you do it!
I hate it when people come into my job..complaining about how I'm not moving fast enough, or how pajama pants aren't appropriate attire for work, or how its rude to talk to a customer with 3/4's of a muffin in your mouth, or how "state law" says your not supposed to smoke inside....blah blah blah.
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lol Yeah, that no pajamas thing is a total crock!
Hey all,
Just wondering how people are doing on battery life after the update. I moved from BoneStock back to the stock(ish) ROM, and I personally am struggling on battery life right now. It is early though and I'll make adjustments. Just wondering how it's going for everyone else.
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bigperm71 said:
Hey all,
Just wondering how people are doing on battery life after the update. I moved from BoneStock back to the stock(ish) ROM, and I personally am struggling on battery life right now. It is early though and I'll make adjustments. Just wondering how it's going for everyone else.
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May be hard to compare a stock non-rooted phone to a custom ROM even if it stock. Seems like every dev puts in something "for better battery life"
I'm stock, locked, S-On, 4.4 and my battery life is great. Though I'm comparing it to my old phone, Rezound, where I couldn't get out my front door without it dropping 10%
I make it through a full day no problems and I'd consider myself an "average" user.
bigperm71 said:
Hey all,
Just wondering how people are doing on battery life after the update. I moved from BoneStock back to the stock(ish) ROM, and I personally am struggling on battery life right now. It is early though and I'll make adjustments. Just wondering how it's going for everyone else.
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I haven't noticed a huge difference, but Bonestock 4.3 was definitely better. I'm on NuSense which isn't stock but it's pretty close with a few optimizations. Are you checking in the stats to see if it's an app that's killing your battery? I've had a few occasions when Google location services killed my battery for no apparent reason.
I haven't spent much time yet trying to identify and fix the issues, but I'll start looking at it. I wonder what it is they do to improve the battery life in the custom roms...
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I tried the phone back when it was 4.2 and battery was not great, could barely make it till end of work.
Now on 4.4 battery has improved quite a bit. Can easily make it til end of day. Btw I'm s-off stock no root.
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My wife's on a totally stock version of the phone, with the latest OTA. I'm on Santod's odexed rooted version of the OTA. 3.11.605.1 in both cases.
We're both seeing a slight decrease in battery life, but nothing too significant.
It's hard to compare battery life because I'm constantly messing with my phone, playing games, changing icon sets, making and deleting widgets etc., while my wife uses hers for phone calls and email and pretty much nothing else. She's never installed an app. I was going to S-off her phone, just to have it done, but our daughter installed the first OTA update before I got around to it. (The 2.10.605.1). She's 9, and enjoys showing my wife how to do stuff on her phone. Stuff that my wife then enjoys forgetting.
Having said that it's hard to compare battery life, I'll do just that. She gets better life than I do, and could likely go 48 hours on a charge. Her biggest power user is the email function - which is the stock email app that came with the phone.
Battery Guru used to tell me I could go 32 hours on a charge, but after flashing Santod's latest ROM I had to uninstall and reinstall it, and so far it's not giving me the same projected life numbers as it used to. I don't mean it's projecting less hours, I mean it's not giving hours of life expectancy at all. I can't remember if it took a few days last time before it started giving the projections - I only flashed the ROM last Friday.
Before the update I would be at somewhere between 70-80% at the end of a day, my wife would be 80+%. Now I'm closer to 60%, she's in the 70's.
My battery life may well improve still with Battery Guru. Would it make sense to re-install it on her phone and let it "learn" all over again?
the 4.4 update is draining too fast.
I went from the 4.2.2 BoneStock ROM to the new 4.4 version and my battery life easily doubled. I can make it about 28 hours on a full charge.
battery in 4.4 is s*ck.
i would prefer 4.3 for the battery life.
I noticed actually better battery life for 4.4 on bonestock. Im running with the elemental kernel and underclocked it, also i have some tweaks in tasker that keep my phone pretty efficient. overall i'm seeing around anywhere from 15 to 20 hours of battery life with depending on how long i have my bluetooth on and other things like that. ill post a screen shot later when i get home of my actual times.
I am having the strangest battery drain 4.4.2. 6-8 hours with less than an hour of screen time
I text a pretty good bit throughout the day and my battery life seems to go pretty quickly:/ I'm completely stock as well no root or anything.....yet. I'm hoping once they get a root/s-off/unlock method out for the 4.4.2/sense5.5 software, that I can do a custom Rom and fix all that.
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I text a pretty good bit throughout the day and my battery life seems to go pretty quickly:/ I'm completely stock as well no root or anything.....yet. I'm hoping once they get a root/s-off/unlock method out for the 4.4.2/sense5.5 software, that I can do a custom Rom and fix all that.
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With pretty heavy use I tend to see between 6 and 9% per hour according to better battery stats. My screen on percentage is probably within 18 to % most of the time. I'm running rooted stock with xposed and a tweak to stock that allows me to select power saver mode in settings.
blkhrt13 said:
I text a pretty good bit throughout the day and my battery life seems to go pretty quickly:/ I'm completely stock as well no root or anything.....yet. I'm hoping once they get a root/s-off/unlock method out for the 4.4.2/sense5.5 software, that I can do a custom Rom and fix all that.
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temporary fix:
-Settings->Data Usage->(dots)->Restrict background data (yes this does make it harder to synchronize content)
-wifi off (if you have more than one bar of signal)
That temporary fix boosted my battery from a days use to two days. I blame Verizon for wakelocking our phone.
Hi there! Well, I consider myself an average user. Take a look at the screen shot. Numbers talk the best
BTW my SGN II gets about 5 hours of screen on time and has much bigger battery, so I'm happy with what I get on my One running 4.4.2 with sense 6.0 by hawk and ecliptic team powered by Lunar Ellie oc.
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I am having pretty good battery on 4.4. Can't complain since it lasts me all day.
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I am having pretty good battery on 4.4. Can't complain since it lasts me all day.
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I think this should be the best phone for last year. S4 is overated for me since they have added a lot of stuff that we do not really use. here with my HTC one, it is customized the way we use it. And I can say the best part is that my battery can last for a day if my internet is off. If I'm casually using it with internet, it can run for almost 8 hours.
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I think this should be the best phone for last year. S4 is overated for me since they have added a lot of stuff that we do not really use. here with my HTC one, it is customized the way we use it. And I can say the best part is that my battery can last for a day if my internet is off. If I'm casually using it with internet, it can run for almost 8 hours.
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I had the S4 and sold it. I also have a note 3 and before those I had the note2. Htc is a nice change from TW. It gets me through 11 hr work days +some relax time in it .
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I'm pretty happy with this.
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No heat here.. Maybe a little warmth during heavy use.. But not near as hot as my gs5 gets.. This thing is super fast.. Blows every other phone out of the water (using gel launcher here and running art) battery seems really good so far.. Only on my second charge cycle.. And yes it's worth every penny.
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You're going to get different opinions from everyone based on phone they're coming from. I personally came from the One X...here are my 2 pennies.
- Heat: Waaaaaaaay less heat than my One X. You could seriously cook spam off the back of my phone. While playing some of these new games, my phone would shut off due to the heat. This phone will get "warm" but I've noticed that it has calmed down quite a bit after the second day. I also have a case on there so it may retain some heat as well. As soon as some custom roms/kernels get made I'm sure this will go away.
TL;DR: I wouldn't worry about heat.
-Performance: I noticed the lag that everyone mentioned but I just kept with it and let the phone settle. There is hardly any lag. Compared to a phone that was 2 years old, this thing flies.
-Battery: I haven't really cared what the battery is doing just yet. I'm always playing games, streaming music, talking on it...you know, doing everything I bought it for; the battery hasn't bothered me yet, so that's gotta be a good sign. I'm letting this settle and then I'll really analyze this. But until kernels are built for the phone, I could care less.
Summary: Yes, this phone was worth waiting out my dreaded AT&T contract, waiting for it to become available from T-Mobile. I have played with all the newest phones (s5, M8, OPO) and this is the winner.
Buy it now.
No issues here. Great upgrade from the Nexus 5 for someone looking for a better camera and larger screen.
Got mine on the 11th and I'm very pleased to say that this is the first device in about the last 6 or 7 that I'm liking very much right out of the box! Don't get me wrong I already have my root apps and installs already planned out, but very good device. No heat (using Velis Auto Brightness App), no noticeable lag, battery has been pretty good (depending on use) and so far worth the money! Haven't seen any of the problems/issues others are/have been reporting either. Coming from SuperAmoled screen on my S4, this screen is quite dim but with some tweaks in the Velis app's brightness curve all is well.
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Heat? Not much hotter than any of my other devices I've used, it does get pretty warm while it's on the charger and I'm doing more intensive things, but as a whole heat is a non issue for me. Even playing Asphalt 8 my G2 would heat up way more and would throttle after about 2 stages.
Performance? A little disappointed actually. Out of the box the phone lags and microstutters quite a bit. Most noticeable with animations and switching between apps. Reminds me of the Galaxy S4 which I hated because of those nagging issues. I tried a few things, turning off animations in dev options, switching to ART runtime, trying other launchers, Nova and Apex.
All those things help speed things up, but all have their drawbacks. It's disappointing because you shouldn't have to sacrifice stability or lose functionality to get a smooth running device out of the box. I can see how some owners coming from older devices might view the G3 as a speed demon but I'm coming from an HTC One M8 which is the paragon of Android smoothness, on par with an iOS device if not better. Here's hoping a software update will smooth things up, I remember my G2 was much quicker after each subsequent software update.
Battery life is okay, doesn't seem to match my old G2 which I always thought was amazing. Seems to be on par with my HTC One M8. Nothing spectacular but I gotta give it credit for the removable battery.
Worth every penny? The design is gorgeous, the screen is breathtaking with the right content. 3GB of RAM, 32GB of storage and top of the line SOC at the moment for $599? Yes it's worth every penny. If LG optimized the software a bit more and toned down the oversharpening crap on the screen, it would be VERY hard for me to find something else to take it's place in my pocket.
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It gets warm like any other phone.
Fantastic performance, it runs like it should. I haven't experienced any lag. The aux doesnt work with my car but it connects via BT so it's ok but still something to note.
Battery life has been great on my first charge.
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For me personally, its worth it and ill recommend it to anyone. Lg are what's hot right now.
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It gets warm like any other phone.
Fantastic performance, it runs like it should. I haven't experienced any lag. The aux doesnt work with my car but it connects via BT so it's ok but still something to note.
Battery life has been great on my first charge.
For me personally, its worth it and ill recommend it to anyone. Lg are what's hot right now.
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I'm really surprised when I see people say they haven't experienced any lag. I mean are some people just not sensitive to microstutters as others? I'm tempted to make a video showing my lag and microstuttering.
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I'm really surprised when I see people say they haven't experienced any lag. I mean are some people just not sensitive to microstutters as others? I'm tempted to make a video showing my lag and microstuttering.
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I guess. Maybe if you're someone that buys flagship phones every six months, you'll notice it more. Like coming from a rooted Nexus 5 or M8.
I upgraded from a Galaxy S III. I had that phone for about 2 years so the jump is huge for me compare to that. Even then, I feel the G3 is just as responsive as my Nexus 7. Which i find great considering how many nice features this phone has. Its not barebone like a Nexus.
The lag is definitely there , I disable most settings and apps plus enable art . Much better but not as smooth as the nexus 5 . But is expected with the heavy skin from LG the S5 is the same way
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Dan37tz said:
I'm really surprised when I see people say they haven't experienced any lag. I mean are some people just not sensitive to microstutters as others? I'm tempted to make a video showing my lag and microstuttering.
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You should I would like to see it because as hard as I try I see no lag.
There's definitely lag I was just testing it out at the store just playing around with it opening apps and such.and literally after 2 mins of playing with it. 3 or 4 stutters blew me off
I came from the One M8, Nexus 5 and currently using it along with One Plus One. One thing I noticed after using it for couple of days is it feels very wide compared to other phones. Kind of not a good experience if you are a heavy user and use the phone a lot. Gets little hot compared to other recent phones. Display is good, text is little over sharpened and auto brightness tends to be on the darker side. Performance wise does a decent job but not as good as One plus One or the M8. Camera is definitely better than other android phone I have used recently.
Overall you will be happy if you come from a older device, if you are changing from recent flagship you won't be blown away.
I have enabled art and disabled thermal throttling and it flies. Maybe not the safest method but meh
Out of the box, no lag or screen issues that folks have been complaining about. Coming from a Nexus 5 I'm not a big fan of skins so I threw Nova on. 13 hrs in and I'm sitting at 51% on my battery. I'm really digging this phone.
only had it a few hours
1 NO LAG ! none ! nadda
2 no over saturation of text
3 sleeps like a baby
4 when the screens on it drinks juice like a cheap 2 dollar whore !
over all im happy i picked up the g3
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I have enabled art and disabled thermal throttling and it flies. Maybe not the safest method but meh
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How you disable thermal throttling?
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How you disable thermal throttling?
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=disable+thermal+throttling+g3
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How you disable thermal throttling?
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Dialer code.
3845#*851#
Scroll down to High Temp Property OFF and Toggle it to "on"
I definitely noticed micro stutter on the display models at the store and the white one I got, High Temp Property Mod helps but its still there. I've used the 1+1 the last week and its quite a bit smoother when it comes to scrolling, transitions, opening apps.