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Hello All,
I know that I want a PET or other glass-like screen protector. Generally speaking, I never used screen protectors because they never really held up all that well and on top of that they never had the feel or look of the real thing. Now I have a scratch on my screen that is not normally visible, but I know its there.
I have run into a debacle because I know that while I am good at putting on screen protectors, I am no expert and the PET ones are harder to get perfect than the rubbery ones (which I now despise). So, recently I have seen that there are some PET/Silicone/ Electrostaic Hybrid screen protetctors and then there are still the PET with Adhesive.
Does anyone have experience with the electrostatic type and how good are they at staying on and bubbles?
I have no idea what is PET, or the different types. However, if you are talking about the one I got:
http://www.handhelditems.com/crystal-clear-screen-protector-p-135710.html
my experience is that this has great clarity, can get bubbles during applications, and they rarely come off by itself. On the many devices I've used this type of protector on, only one came off. It started in one corner, and over the course of a month with gradual lint build up the screen protector eventually got ruined. I could've washed it and reapplied for that month, but I had a spare so I was lazy. You can reapply the protectors as needed to get the application right. The bubbles that occur aren't the same as the rubbery kind. Air bubbles can easily be pushed out after application. The problem is dust that prevent the protector from adhering to screen, causing a little bubble. If the dust is really small, the bubble goes away over a day. Or, like me, you can live with it. You try getting something the size of an iPad dust free.
Bought Electrostatic - LOVE THESE!
Ok, as a preface I have owned and used screen protectors before.
I had an iPhone before the EVO and used the Griffin Ultraclear hard Protetctors ad the PowerSupportUSA products of every variety on my previous iPod products (iPod Mini 1G, 4G, Nano 1G, 5G, Shuffle 1G, Touch, iPhone) not to mention an invisible shield one or two. I gave up on the films towards the end of my Touch ownership. They always felt horrible and I could never get one absolutely perfect (didn't help that they usually were not perfectly cut).
For the Evo, I tried the InvisibleShield the first day because I remembered just how well the InvisibileShield had held up on my 5G. Well I think that they have changed the formula, or rather that 3M has since then because the smooth feel and smooth look of the original are most definitely gone. The new variety is rubbery (even after days of use) and is not cut well enough to be a perfect fit (it never covered edge to edge). So i skipped it. Well it seems that with this large of a glass screen, you are much more liable to getting scratches (versus using and unprotetcted iPhone/Touch screen) and I got a few ultra hairline ones that are barely if ever visible to the naked eye and just knowing that they are there bothered me. So I needed to think of getting a screen protector.
Seeing as how air moves and its nearly impossible to get a screen protectors on without any bit of dust, I decided on getting the electrostatic variety so that I could rinse if it came off or needed to be reapplied.
I bought These: Electrostatic Screen Protector - Clear Hard
- Hard variety (PET)
- Very Clear
- Silicone Layer (helps the scratches and dents heal themselves and give sturdiness to the PET)
- Electrostatic layer (holds the screen protector onto the phone)
Six pack delivered for $4? I could do much worse.
Well as it turns out, they are PERFECTLY cut and cover every inch of screen and no more. It went on smooth as butter and I got no bubbles or dust or fingerprints or anything (used a credit card to smooth it down). These were by far the easiest I have had. Not only that, but the electrostatic holds on just as strong as the sticky variety and will not get the gunk on the sides sticking to it! I have taken my TPU case on and off a bunch and had no lift whatsoever. As a bonus, THEY SHOW FINGERPRINTS MUCH LESS THAN THE GLASS SCREEN DOES!
So at $0.65 each, they are killer and having a few backups is nice as well as giving one to a friend.
Cheers!
Thanks for that post. I'm expecting my EVOs (I ordered 2) in within the next week. I've been trying hard to find cases and screen protectors without much luck, but I'm going to go ahead and order those screen protectors you mentioned since you recommend them.
Yep i ordered the same ones and love them. i have loved these from the start. they are quite easy to put on and stay on well.
Scotch tape is your friend in getting screen protectors on without a bit of dust
Childofthehorn said:
Hello All,
I know that I want a PET or other glass-like screen protector. Generally speaking, I never used screen protectors because they never really held up all that well and on top of that they never had the feel or look of the real thing. Now I have a scratch on my screen that is not normally visible, but I know its there.
I have run into a debacle because I know that while I am good at putting on screen protectors, I am no expert and the PET ones are harder to get perfect than the rubbery ones (which I now despise). So, recently I have seen that there are some PET/Silicone/ Electrostaic Hybrid screen protetctors and then there are still the PET with Adhesive.
Does anyone have experience with the electrostatic type and how good are they at staying on and bubbles?
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I have a steinheil ultra crystal protector on my EVO, and its static. As long as you make sure there is no debris under it, it will stay on for a long time with no lifting. I have shown my phone to quite a few people, and not one of them can tell I have a screen protector on it. Even when I point it out to them, they still cant see it. It's very thin and I applied it perfectly so their a no bubbles. Took me about 30 minutes to get it perfect. If you use a piece of scotch tape to pick up debris under it, that works pretty good. This biggest thing is to make sure your edges are perfectly clean. Even the slightest bit of debris under one of the edges of the screen protector, and it wont be long before it starts peeling. I'm very satisfied with my steinheil. Going on 5 weeks now and it looks flawless. Id take a picture but you wouldnt be able to see it anyways. I thought it was a scam spending $13 on a screen protector! I used to order them from china for 50 cents. well, never doing that again! I've only ever used 1 adhesive type screen protector, and it was terrible. the clarity was awful.
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I have a steinheil ultra crystal protector on my EVO, and its static. As long as you make sure there is no debris under it, it will stay on for a long time with no lifting. I have shown my phone to quite a few people, and not one of them can tell I have a screen protector on it. Even when I point it out to them, they still cant see it. It's very thin and I applied it perfectly so their a no bubbles. Took me about 30 minutes to get it perfect. If you use a piece of scotch tape to pick up debris under it, that works pretty good. This biggest thing is to make sure your edges are perfectly clean. Even the slightest bit of debris under one of the edges of the screen protector, and it wont be long before it starts peeling. I'm very satisfied with my steinheil. Going on 5 weeks now and it looks flawless. Id take a picture but you wouldnt be able to see it anyways. I thought it was a scam spending $13 on a screen protector! I used to order them from china for 50 cents. well, never doing that again! I've only ever used 1 adhesive type screen protector, and it was terrible. the clarity was awful.
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Have not seen these yet. where did you get yours and do you know if they offer an anti-glare
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Have not seen these yet. where did you get yours and do you know if they offer an anti-glare
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Their anti-fingerprint screen protector is also anti-glare per the product description on their website.
http://www.sgpstore.com/product_info.php/cPath/23_33/products_id/1463
remedy22 said:
Their anti-fingerprint screen protector is also anti-glare per the product description on their website.
http://www.sgpstore.com/product_info.php/cPath/23_33/products_id/1463
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thanks for the link. Can anyone find this brand cheaper
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thanks for the link. Can anyone find this brand cheaper
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I don't think so.
But these are $13 well spent. Believe me.
~fb
So what do people recommend as the best screen protectors to choose from for the MT4G?
I know everyone has their own opinions on them, but I'm hoping people can post their pros/cons and we can help us all narrow down the choice to a few.
Thanks!
the phantom skinz screen protector! pros: clear, nice feel, covers the whole front. cons: none if installed correctly.
I like the Reallook one. Clear, durable and feels like the glass.
I had the realook and phantom skinz. I settled on phantom skinz. I have the full body matte, plus clear phantom skinz. (Don't install the matte screen protector from PS).
Realook is very good with clear BUT the only thing that sucks is that you get ALOT of oils/fingerprints, etc on it. Easy install and easy clean with soap/water.
Phantom skinz gets oil on the screen too, but not as much. Screen surface is alittle "gummy". (Orange peel is very little to non existant). Watch out as the adhesive backing will attract lint (during installation) and you WILL not be able to get that off. PS also has lifetime warranty = unlimited screen protector replacements. (got the whole kit for $12 during 50% off cyber monday).
Don't bother getting invisible shield, they suck and give you orange peel, and it's thick.
@Jaylito,
Did you notice any kind of cloudiness after you cleaned your screen with alchol/towel? (assuming you've cleaned your screen with alcohol/water) For some reason, mine clouded up on the top.
yeah I have. I guess it's normal tho. goes away if u keep rubbing the screen back & fourth with ur thumb. guess since the material... if it gets wet, it'll cloud a bit cause the moisture seeps thru the inside but it'll dry out bro.
guess I have to do more rubbing then cause it's still cloudy...
oh well....
I tried PhantomSkinz and that was a pain to put on (w/ water and soap), Realook was easy and it didn't peel at the edges.
Zagg Invisishield. Lifetime Warranty.
realook, hands down.
pros: crystal clear, feels like the glass itself, easy to clean, easy to apply, easy to reapply.
cons: a little expensive ($10 for 2, but its totally worth it)
MT4G_Slave said:
I tried PhantomSkinz and that was a pain to put on (w/ water and soap), Realook was easy and it didn't peel at the edges.
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Weird... for me, PS was MUCH EASIER than realook.
PS allows movement up/down/left/right with ease, and then you just squeeze out water.
For realook, it sucked to align the edges cause you can't move the film once you've "stickered" it on. Then you have to peel it back off and realign, causing lint (in my case) to adhere, and then I have to clean it again.
For me the realook was the best by far. I tried a couple of the wet app kind like invisishield and clear freak on the 4 mt4gs that I had and the realook was the best. I agree its a pain to put on, especially if you have animals because of dust and hair, but if you apply it in the bathroom after letting it steam up from the shower, I've found I can get it on without too much dust or hair falling on the screen. Also, get some extra scotch tape and place it on the front of the realook screen to keep your fingers off the adhesive side while applying it. Another nice thing is that each protector comes with two dots to apply to the camera lens in the back.
The only bad thing is that I think the realook attracts fingerprint grease worse than the wet app kind.
I have a zagg on my nexus s mostly because its all that's out right now and will put a realook on as soon as they are available.
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The Boxwave screen protectores look pretty good too, though I've never tried one myself.
Ghost Armor. Just added it today on my 4G n its cut to fit perfectly, including the sensors n camera. FEELS like the real glass n doesn't take away from the display like the ones Tmo sales. Avoid those *****es like the plague.
I used Zagg for my Nexus S.
I get generic ones from a guy named lcd-protectors on ebay, 5 for $3.50. They're the stiff kind with two protective layers that you peel off, one before you apply and one after. I'm too cheap to pay more.
i just ordered a full body cover kit from stealthguards.com
choosing the clear type and none of the colored ones, it was $2.85 (full body protection, just pay shipping)
$2.85 sure beats dishing out $25 for zagg which is the same crap.
What do you need a screen protector for? I haven't used a screen protector since I bought the G1 at launch, and I've never had a screen scratch. Keys in my pockets, etc. Never been a problem. These screens are incredibly scratch resistant.
I love these screen protectors that I bought on Amazon. Perfect on the first try with no bubbles! Check it out here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004E49TEG/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1294786757&sr=8-1:
BoxWare screen protector is well IDK how to rate it as it is just regular. What I did not like about it was it does "NOT" fully cover the screen as you have little gap very small which bugs me as I am neat. The feeling right now is artificial as I can tell it is there maybe cuz its still new as I applied it just 2hours ago. So lets wait and see how it turns out in long run.
I grabbed a Reallook screen protector off of amazon:
Pros: The feel and clarity are great
Cons: The cut. It has a cutout for the FFC and leaves a fair bit of space on all sides (as a result it's easy to get on) but it's really short on all sides in my opinion.
Part Four said:
What do you need a screen protector for? I haven't used a screen protector since I bought the G1 at launch, and I've never had a screen scratch. Keys in my pockets, etc. Never been a problem. These screens are incredibly scratch resistant.
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Tell that to the scratch in my screen that I got the first day of having the phone... yeah, needless to say, I have a screen protector now and its helped a lot.
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any tips or tricks to putting the screen protectors on without getting bubbles or dust and lint sticking to adhesive side of protector?
If and when you place your screen protector and notice a finger print or lint, you can repair it. I use clear packing tape, cutting two strips about 1/2" wide. Place one on the top near (but not over) the area you are working with. This is used to lift the protector so you can get under it to where the problem is. Then slip the second strip under the protector, facing up or down depending if the problem it on the protector or the glass. I do it one way then the other for good measure. Once the tape is in place, lower the protector, press on the area, raise the protector, remove the piece of tape under the protector, then lower the protector to see if the blemish is gone.
Repeat where needed. Remove the piece of tape on the top by holding the protector beside the tape, and pulling the tape off the top.
This will remove fingerprints underneath the protector whether it is on the protector or the glass. It will also remove dust, fibers, etc.
It is entirely possible to place the screen protector where it is straight and without anything caught underneath, but I have used this method many times.
If you would like to see the process, search Youtube for "removing lint from under screen protectors".
I'm lazy -- I took mine to BestBuy and had them do it. It cost around $12, but they did the job right. I always seem to screw up when putting them on myself.
there is no need to "protect" the screen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivxlsNLi-9s
only good if protector is fingerprint resistant
danij3l said:
there is no need to "protect" the screen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivxlsNLi-9s
only good if protector is fingerprint resistant
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I agree, it makes no sense to use a screen protector on something that has Gorilla Glass like the KF does, other than fingerprints or possibly a privacy screen protector.
I purchased the Skinomi from Amazon. It did not really help with fingerprints like I had planned, nor did it look very good on the screen - contrary to the Skinomi I have on my iPhone 4...
My fire got a light scratch on it in about a week. Never dropped, lived in its case, babied.
Get a screen protector.
(I am anal and hate even the smallest defect. It was indeed a small scratch only noticeable in certain light, but was a scratch.)
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I agree, it makes no sense to use a screen protector on something that has Gorilla Glass like the KF does, other than fingerprints or possibly a privacy screen protector.
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I disagree. I have Gorilla Glass on my Samsung Epic 4g which survived the same type of 'demonstrations' showed in that video. Not wanting to impact the beauty of the screen (touted as one of its primary features when the phone came out), I left mine unprotected. However, after less than a year of use, there are still a significant number of scratches on it, and even one 'chunk' missing that is visible from all angles.
Came here to see if anyone recommended a specific brand over another. While the anti-glare screens sound nice, I have also read that it impacts viewing in a negative way - sounds like something I don't want for a device designed for reading. Therefore I figured I'd stick with a clear protector, but was looking for reviews.
I've always loved and used the SGP Steinheil Ultra Crystal.
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The anti-fingerprint ones they sell are junk. They really muck up the screen. But the ultra-crystals are great and provide another layer of protection. I haven't installed mine on my Fire yet, but I will once I get around to it.
Though Gorilla Glass is amazing stuff, it is not scratch-proof. I'll continue using screen protectors regardless of what type of glass.
Interesting. I have a 2 year old Incredible with a perfect screen and never used a screen protector. I must be the most careful person on earth.
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The anti-fingerprint ones they sell are junk. They really muck up the screen.
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Agree and disagree. While it does hinder the quality a tiny tiny bit, I personally love the feel of the matte surface while reading a book. That, combined with anti-glare, make the clear protectors utterly useless to me. If I'm reading / watching anything, I certainly don't want to have to tilt the device to get rid of glare to see the screen clearly.
I bought the Acase matte screen protectors and absolutely recommend them to anyone. 3 pack for $12.99 shipped on Amazon. (Girlfriend loves them too)
I have an XO Skin on my Nexus and love the look of it. You really can barely tell its there and it helps a ton with the finger prints. They make one for the Fire as well: http://xoskins.com/amazon-kindle-fire-screen-protector
Be aware that this is a wet applied protector. I find the best way to apply them is the steam up the bathroom really well for a few minutes, then turn the water off for a few minutes to let any dust in the room settle. Then do a really good wipe down of the screen with a non lint towel and blow it completely clean with compressed air.
When applying the protector, use a lot of the application liquid, on the protector and your fingers.
I just installed a Skinomi protector. Still waiting for it to dry and all, but as far as I can see I removed pretty much all of the bubbles. It was around 9 bucks shipped, came well packaged with clear instructions and a lifetime warranty. As long as it the picture quality isn't disturbed, I think it's going to be a winner.
I do want to try one of those matte protectors now though...
After dealing with cheap screen protectors I ordered a couple different well reviewed protectors.
I got the armorsuit militaryshield.
It installed great, but had to apply it wet (which i don't like) and let sit for 12 hours.
It turned out very nice, you really couldn't tell it was there besides very minor screen distortion. I really didn't like how it felt, a little sticky.
I had to rma that kindle and couldn't save the shield.
So I got a greatshield ezseal
If you're looking for a protector this is the one to get.
Best protector Ive ever used.
Its basically just like the moshi ivisor for ipad.
It doesn't stick to the screen, the adhesive is on the outer edges and it basically lies on the screen -so no bubbles. you can even take it off and wash it.
I tried the Acase matte screen protectors on Amazon and they looked awful. They mute the color palette and give everything a fuzzy look. Tried the Acase clear screen protectors instead and they worked out fine. Can't see the fingerprints and the screen still looks good.
yeah matte will make it a bit fuzzy/greasy looking
the ezshield is matte
Got this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ALDUFG/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
BoxWave Amazon Kindle Fire ClearTouch Anti-Glare Screen Protector
I really like how it fits, it really make the display look better.
Don't really care about scratches, but the reflections on the KF can be pretty annoying outside.
It's not really anti-Fingerprint but it's way more easy to clean.
It's also reusable.
I thk a screen protector is ideal if your banging it around or throwing stuff of it but other than theres no reason to really.
ive only had i protector on 1 one the phones ive had, all the rest of the stuff I dont have any SP on them.
I have never had any prob with the screen getting scratched.
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If I could find something that would let me see the screen in the sun now that would be worth it. LOL
Is it making the screen use better outside then? And what about the use inside?
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I'd definitely speak against screen protectors; I purchased a highly rated myGear one with my Fire and noticed that though fingerprints didn't seem to appear as easily, they were almost impossible to wipe off completely. It also noticeably detracts from what is such a good screen.
The Product
Product Page
CRYSTAL ARMOR Ultra Thin Full Flat Tempered Glass Protector. Claimed to be the worlds thinnest; so thin, in fact, that they claim that a sensor hole cutout is necessary. Of course, it comes at a price. And that is a wallet gouging ¥5,000. Although on the product page they say that the shipping is included, they still said they had to charge me another ¥250. So I ended up paying ¥5,250 for a single sheet of glass...
They seem to have made the shipping free so it is "only" ¥5,000 now which makes me feel ripped off.
UPDATE: It's actually a promotion apparently for this month as their nice rep informed me.
The customer support at Crystal Armor is great. The English support team swiftly answered my inquiries, and even emailed me when I ordered a second one to double check if it was a mistake or not
First Look
It came in a huge box (for a screen protector anyway) with a ton of bubble wrap.
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You think I'm kidding?
I tentatively open the package to reveal...
Nothing but the screen protector.
It's packaged nicely and all, but I can't help but feel a bit let down to find nothing else included in a ¥5,000 product. There is only film over the adhesive side of the protector too
Its thinness is something else though. This still has the protective film on.
A quick mockup shows the fitment to be spot on
Anti Shatter Film Removal
I found the corner to be the easiest to lift.
It's just peeling from now on.
Goodbye Sony logo.
Ahhhh, real glass!
I first thought I used too much WD-40 to clean the glass, but it turns out that even nail polish remover wasn't enough. After multiple passes with optical cleaning towel and nail polish remover, the screen only looks clean. A quick wipe with a cheap microfiber towel reveals tons of lint stuck onto the glass, and the glass feels slightly sticky to the touch, especially at the edges. Running water over the glass shows spots at the corners where the residue still remains, as the water flows around the spots.
After more rubbing with nail polish remover the spots seem to have mostly disappeared, but the screen still feels slightly sticky. Maybe the residue will wear off after a week of usage, but so far I have to recommend prospective ASF removers to put a screen protector over the bare glass.
I've given up for now. I'll just install the protector right over without worrying about the residue since it's not visible anyways. I just washed the towels and letting them to dry, and I'll get the protector installed in my washroom after my shower tonight to be as safe as possible. It is an expensive single usage protector after all.
On a side note, if you do this to your dock you'll be able to use it even with a thick screen protector
The Big Mistake
Well I think I've just made the biggest f***up in my Android related life. So badly that I managed to actually crack the glass protector
But instead of mourning for the new wound in my wallet, I'll have to make the best of this broken piece of glass and make a cracked screen protector review until the replacement arrives.
First of all, the screen protector is seriously thin. Keep in mind that this is my first glass screen protector, but this is definitely much thinner than the glass protector that my friend has on his Z1. It's so thin that it still fits in the magnetic charging dock, although I don't recommend this, as the dock scuffs up the rear ASF enough already without the added thickness. The thinness combined with the rounded edges make this feel extremely smooth at the edges, and my fingers glide on and off the edges like its nothing.
Speaking of gliding, the oleophobic coating is nice and slick. I've been rubbing my fingers and palms over it and the coating isn't letting up. I'm sure I've put enough finger oils on it to equal a month's usage and all I've been doing is wiping it off with a shirt and it's still holding up very well.
The size of the screen protector is pretty much exactly the size of the display glass so you must be extremely careful while installing it. Because I ruined mine I just quickly matched 2 edges on one side and put it down. I highly urge everyone to use the masking tape hinge method and take your time to hexacheck for a perfect fitment. Yes you can peel it off and reapply but you have an extremely high chance of cracking your glass. The protector is flexible to a degree but definitely not enough for you to peel it off the screen unless you are some master at peeling off protectors with minimal angle.
My heart bled as I folded this screen protector in half for the sake of science.
As you can see, the protector does not shatter, so it does a perfectly fine job as a replacement for your factory anti shatter film.
In an extreme case of folding in the edge like a page in a book, a very small piece of glass detached itself from the glass but proved to be harmless like the glass particles that also fell out of the cracks.
And of course I had to forget the scratch test. The protector, while having cracks all over, laughed at the futility of the multiple knives from around the house but was ultimately defeated by 150 grit sandpaper which left scratches too small for me to bother to attempt to capture with a camera. Back to the garbage can it goes.
Hope you all benefited from my stupidity and failure. I will now cry myself to sleep. This ends my preliminary review of the Crystal Armor Ultra Thin Full Flat Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (WORD’S THINNEST!) with Chemically Strengthened Tempered Glass and Oleophobic Super Slick Surface and I still can’t post external links.
The ASF Free Experience
Feels good to be touching actual glass :angel:
But because there is no coating on the glass, fingerprints and smudges build up very very quickly, and I had to clean it frequently. Because there's no coating on it there's a bit of friction against your fingertips. I'm sure that some Rain-X or some sort of glass sealant will make the screen a lot more smooth (friction wise, there's no texture on the glass obviously).
Now don't expect the display to magically improve without the ASF. It doesn't become more vibrant, bright, or have any better viewing angles.
But don't think that removing the ASF is pretty much pointless and is a stupid move. The ASF is a stupid move. Unless you slap a screen protector over the ASF as soon as you get the phone, you are going to get scratches because the ASF is so soft. So I got fed up with the marks and decided to just remove it. Now you have glass that is actually hard. Some people are just anti-protector and that's perfectly fine. The Dragontrail glass is tough and it's not gonna get scratched that easily. I think running the bare glass with some sort of sealant, oleophobic coating , or a mix you'll have a nice feeling anti-fingerprint glass. Just reapply when the coating wears off.
Round 2
They included a microfiber cloth this time (I wonder if they read my review )
The tab for peeling off the protective film is also a lot easier to peel off this time.
I couldn't use the hinge method to install this protector because the duct tape just won't stick. Not sure if it's a good thing because the coating is strong or if it's a bad thing because I misaligned thanks to not having a hinge.
Also trapped a spec of fiber, which ironically is probably from the microfiber cloth they provided... Luckily it's so small that I can only find it with my face about 8cm from the screen.
Having this protector on is also definitely visible, due to the rounded corners
Also leaks a bit of light at the side like the edge of a lit acrylic panel (reference)
The coating is indeed very smooth in case I haven't mentioned it enough. My fingers glide on it with pretty much no friction, and because the screen is now raised a bit I don't feel the ridge at the end of the screen anymore. And because it's so smooth you don't have to use much force on the screen so it leaves even less marks. All the pictures I've taken are after 1 day of use and no cleaning at all. And I went snowboarding with it and it didn't crack so don't think its weak just because I goofed the first time.
My camera lens is 14-24mm which is useless for macro so here's a video for you guys
You can find it on their site
Short Term Experience
In the first week, it was oleophobic heaven. Super slick, almost completely fingerprint-proof. The few smudges come off extremely easily.
Towards the end of week 2 it has become less oleophobic. It's not extremely slick like new but it is still very good. Smudges and prints come off just from taking the phone out of the pocket.
End of week 3 had me a bit worried. Has the oleophobic coating worn off already? Fingerprints go on pretty easily and it is not very slick. Then I realized that in this entire time I have not once cleaned the screen with any cleaning solution, only wiping it down with a microfiber cloth.
So I did that and the slickness is back. It feels more like week 2... At least for a few days.
So now I clean the screen regularly and when the screen is clean it's much easier to wipe off fingerprints.
TO BE CONTINUED FOR LONG TERM RESULTS
Well thanks to xda rules I can't post any pictures....
And I have to wait 5 minutes between posts...
This is too much for me to take :crying:
Need the pictures. Or just upload it somewhere else, then put the link here. Thanks so much anyway.
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Need the pictures. Or just upload it somewhere else, then put the link here. Thanks so much anyway.
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xda won't allow external links even to pictures until I get 10 posts, and I can only post once every 5 minutes.
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xda won't allow external links even to pictures until I get 10 posts, and I can only post once every 5 minutes.
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ok, so lets keep chatting here untill you get 10 posts!
how was the placing of the screen protector? the nillkin has almost 2 millimiters gaps from the sides so it's quite easy to fit, but it doesn't cover the whole screen though... but still almost all of it, it looks good.
shteren said:
ok, so lets keep chatting here untill you get 10 posts!
how was the placing of the screen protector? the nillkin has almost 2 millimiters gaps from the sides so it's quite easy to fit, but it doesn't cover the whole screen though... but still almost all of it, it looks good.
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And we shall!
It seems to cover exactly the entire screen but I'll check more precisely when I put it on.
Well I think I've just made the biggest f***up in my Android related life. So badly that I managed to actually crack the glass protector
But instead of mourning for the new wound in my wallet, I'll have to make the best of this broken piece of glass and make a cracked screen protector review until the replacement arrives.
First of all, the screen protector is seriously thin. Keep in mind that this is my first glass screen protector, but this is definitely much thinner than the glass protector that my friend has on his Z1. It's so thin that it still fits in the magnetic charging dock, although I don't recommend this, as the dock scuffs up the rear ASF enough already without the added thickness. The thinness combined with the rounded edges make this feel extremely smooth at the edges, and my fingers glide on and off the edges like its nothing.
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Speaking of gliding, the oleophobic coating is nice and slick. I've been rubbing my fingers and palms over it and the coating isn't letting up. I'm sure I've put enough finger oils on it to equal a month's usage and all I've been doing is wiping it off with a shirt and it's still holding up very well.
The size of the screen protector is pretty much exactly the size of the display glass so you must be extremely careful while installing it. Because I ruined mine I just quickly matched 2 edges on one side and put it down. I highly urge everyone to use the masking tape hinge method and take your time to hexacheck for a perfect fitment. Yes you can peel it off and reapply but you have an extremely high chance of cracking your glass. The protector is flexible to a degree but definitely not enough for you to peel it off the screen unless you are some master at peeling off protectors with minimal angle.
My heart bled as I folded this screen protector in half for the sake of science.
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As you can see (well you can't because I only have 9 posts), the protector does not shatter, so it does a perfectly fine job as a replacement for your factory anti shatter film.
In an extreme case of folding in the edge like a page in a book, a very small piece of glass detached itself from the glass but proved to be harmless like the glass particles that also fell out of the cracks.
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And of course I had to forget the scratch test. The protector, while having cracks all over, laughed at the futility of the multiple knives from around the house but was ultimately defeated by 150 grit sandpaper which left scratches too small for me to bother to attempt to capture with a camera. Back to the garbage can it goes.
Hope you all benefited from my stupidity and failure. I will now cry myself to sleep. This ends my preliminary review of the Crystal Armor Ultra Thin Full Flat Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (WORD’S THINNEST!) with Chemically Strengthened Tempered Glass and Oleophobic Super Slick Surface and I still can’t post external links.
Winrahr said:
Well I think I've just made the biggest f***up in my Android related life. So badly that I managed to actually crack the glass protector
But instead of mourning for the new wound in my wallet, I'll have to make the best of this broken piece of glass and make a cracked screen protector review until the replacement arrives.
First of all, the screen protector is seriously thin. Keep in mind that this is my first glass screen protector, but this is definitely much thinner than the glass protector that my friend has on his Z1. It's so thin that it still fits in the magnetic charging dock, although I don't recommend this, as the dock scuffs up the rear ASF enough already without the added thickness. The thinness combined with the rounded edges make this feel extremely smooth at the edges, and my fingers glide on and off the edges like its nothing.
(pic)
Speaking of gliding, the oleophobic coating is nice and slick. I've been rubbing my fingers and palms over it and the coating isn't letting up. I'm sure I've put enough finger oils on it to equal a month's usage and all I've been doing is wiping it off with a shirt and it's still holding up very well.
The size of the screen protector is pretty much exactly the size of the display glass so you must be extremely careful while installing it. Because I ruined mine I just quickly matched 2 edges on one side and put it down. I highly urge everyone to use the masking tape hinge method and take your time to hexacheck for a perfect fitment. Yes you can peel it off and reapply but you have an extremely high chance of cracking your glass. The protector is flexible to a degree but definitely not enough for you to peel it off the screen unless you are some master at peeling off protectors with minimal angle.
My heart bled as I folded this screen protector in half for the sake of science.
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As you can see (well you can't because I only have 9 posts), the protector does not shatter, so it does a perfectly fine job as a replacement for your factory anti shatter film.
In an extreme case of folding in the edge like a page in a book, a very small piece of glass detached itself from the glass but proved to be harmless like the glass particles that also fell out of the cracks.
(pic)
And of course I had to forget the scratch test. The protector, while having cracks all over, laughed at the futility of the multiple knives from around the house but was ultimately defeated by 150 grit sandpaper which left scratches too small for me to bother to attempt to capture with a camera. Back to the garbage can it goes.
Hope you all benefited from my stupidity and failure. I will now cry myself to sleep. This ends my preliminary review of the Crystal Armor Ultra Thin Full Flat Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (WORD’S THINNEST!) with Chemically Strengthened Tempered Glass and Oleophobic Super Slick Surface and I still can’t post external links.
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It's too bad that you cracked you screen protector, I cheer for you haha.
Well at least if the ultra thin is working like you said, I don't have to fear anything with the 0.33mm one. Thanks! By the way, take time to post one more time and you're good to go with the pictures, show us your baby!
Will be waiting for teh pictures!
Really wanting to buy this, front and back, to replace my <1week old nillkin tempered.
curious
I hope you can post the pics.... so add this reply to the count.:victory:
Boop. 10th post.
OP will now be updated with pictures
I think the greatest weakness of the 0.2mm will be its... weakness. The thinness probably makes it more prone to cracking than the thicker protectors, but it is also probably more flexible, so who knows. It's definitely not super fragile though, I was just being stupid.
Also want to add that the customer support at Crystal Armor is great. The English support team swiftly answered my inquiries, and even emailed me when I ordered a second one to double check if it was a mistake or not :good:
So while I wait for the second protector to come in, I'll be using the phone without an ASF and I'll do a writeup on that in a few days as well.
I still have the cracked protector so if anyone wants me to do some testing with it let me know
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The Product
CRYSTAL ARMOR Ultra Thin Full Flat Tempered Glass Protector. Claimed to be the worlds thinnest; so thin, in fact, that they claim that a sensor hole cutout is necessary. Of course, it comes at a price. And that is a wallet gouging ¥5,000. Although on the product page they say that the shipping is included, they still said they had to charge me another ¥250. So I ended up paying ¥5,250 for a single sheet of glass...
They seem to have made the shipping free so it is "only" ¥5,000 now which makes me feel ripped off.
UPDATE: It's actually a promotion apparently for this month as their nice rep informed me.
The customer support at Crystal Armor is great. The English support team swiftly answered my inquiries, and even emailed me when I ordered a second one to double check if it was a mistake or not
First Look
It came in a huge box (for a screen protector anyway) with a ton of bubble wrap.
You think I'm kidding?
I tentatively open the package to reveal...
Nothing but the screen protector.
It's packaged nicely and all, but I can't help but feel a bit let down to find nothing else included in a ¥5,000 product. There is only film over the adhesive side of the protector too
Its thinness is something else though. This still has the protective film on.
A quick mockup shows the fitment to be spot on
Anti Shatter Film Removal
I found the corner to be the easiest to lift.
It's just peeling from now on.
Goodbye Sony logo.
Ahhhh, real glass!
I first thought I used too much WD-40 to clean the glass, but it turns out that even nail polish remover wasn't enough. After multiple passes with optical cleaning towel and nail polish remover, the screen only looks clean. A quick wipe with a cheap microfiber towel reveals tons of lint stuck onto the glass, and the glass feels slightly sticky to the touch, especially at the edges. Running water over the glass shows spots at the corners where the residue still remains, as the water flows around the spots.
After more rubbing with nail polish remover the spots seem to have mostly disappeared, but the screen still feels slightly sticky. Maybe the residue will wear off after a week of usage, but so far I have to recommend prospective ASF removers to put a screen protector over the bare glass.
I've given up for now. I'll just install the protector right over without worrying about the residue since it's not visible anyways. I just washed the towels and letting them to dry, and I'll get the protector installed in my washroom after my shower tonight to be as safe as possible. It is an expensive single usage protector after all.
On a side note, if you do this to your dock you'll be able to use it even with a thick screen protector
The Big Mistake
Well I think I've just made the biggest f***up in my Android related life. So badly that I managed to actually crack the glass protector
But instead of mourning for the new wound in my wallet, I'll have to make the best of this broken piece of glass and make a cracked screen protector review until the replacement arrives.
First of all, the screen protector is seriously thin. Keep in mind that this is my first glass screen protector, but this is definitely much thinner than the glass protector that my friend has on his Z1. It's so thin that it still fits in the magnetic charging dock, although I don't recommend this, as the dock scuffs up the rear ASF enough already without the added thickness. The thinness combined with the rounded edges make this feel extremely smooth at the edges, and my fingers glide on and off the edges like its nothing.
Speaking of gliding, the oleophobic coating is nice and slick. I've been rubbing my fingers and palms over it and the coating isn't letting up. I'm sure I've put enough finger oils on it to equal a month's usage and all I've been doing is wiping it off with a shirt and it's still holding up very well.
The size of the screen protector is pretty much exactly the size of the display glass so you must be extremely careful while installing it. Because I ruined mine I just quickly matched 2 edges on one side and put it down. I highly urge everyone to use the masking tape hinge method and take your time to hexacheck for a perfect fitment. Yes you can peel it off and reapply but you have an extremely high chance of cracking your glass. The protector is flexible to a degree but definitely not enough for you to peel it off the screen unless you are some master at peeling off protectors with minimal angle.
My heart bled as I folded this screen protector in half for the sake of science.
As you can see, the protector does not shatter, so it does a perfectly fine job as a replacement for your factory anti shatter film.
In an extreme case of folding in the edge like a page in a book, a very small piece of glass detached itself from the glass but proved to be harmless like the glass particles that also fell out of the cracks.
And of course I had to forget the scratch test. The protector, while having cracks all over, laughed at the futility of the multiple knives from around the house but was ultimately defeated by 150 grit sandpaper which left scratches too small for me to bother to attempt to capture with a camera. Back to the garbage can it goes.
Hope you all benefited from my stupidity and failure. I will now cry myself to sleep. This ends my preliminary review of the Crystal Armor Ultra Thin Full Flat Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (WORD’S THINNEST!) with Chemically Strengthened Tempered Glass and Oleophobic Super Slick Surface and I still can’t post external links.
TO BE CONTINUED
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sorry to see that buddy.... try nillkin next time it's smaller than the screen so it's very easy to fit, i did it without hinges, and it's also super slick, i sometimes have a hard time texting cos my fingers are sliding on the glass...
I don't see how a smaller screen protector makes it easier to fit, having to match the spacing on each side will definitely test the very limits of my patience, and I know I'll mess up and get reminded of my mistake every single time I use the phone.
Also can you please unquote the OP? That's a huge quote.
I have just received my front and back protector from Crystal Armour. For the front I got the 0,2mm version and for the back 0,33mm.
Later I will show you some photos.
I uploaded a comparison between Glass M and Crystal Armour, both 0,2mm thin, you can see there the difference in size of the protector.
I like that the CA haven't got a proximity sensor cut out, it is working without any issues.
And for the back protector I have to say, no flash cut out and no flash-light bleeding in photos.
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I have just received my front and back protector from Crystal Armour. For the front I got the 0,2mm version and for the back 0,33mm.
Later I will show you some photos.
I uploaded a comparison between Glass M and Crystal Armour, both 0,2mm thin, you can see there the difference in size of the protector.
I like that the CA haven't got a proximity sensor cut out, it is working without any issues.
And for the back protector I have to say, no flash cut out and no flash-light bleeding in photos.
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Nice info. Any pictures of the back glass? I was contemplating getting it but I'm not sure if I even need glass on the back side.
Winrahr said:
Nice info. Any pictures of the back glass? I was contemplating getting it but I'm not sure if I even need glass on the back side.
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I like the feel of the back with the glass, because of rounded edges. Also less fingerprints and it's easy to remove them.
Before the glass I had a foil, I disliked it, because of scratches and fingerprints, it looked very cheap.
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I like the feel of the back with the glass, because of rounded edges. Also less fingerprints and it's easy to remove them.
Before the glass I had a foil, I disliked it, because of scratches and fingerprints, it looked very cheap.
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Hmmm.. My main concern for the back is the fingerprints so maybe a good oleophobic coating on the glass after removing the ASF would be good... Or I could just get a cheap rear glass...
Speaking of the ASF, I've been using my bare screen for a while so I'll talk a little about it.
Feels good to be touching actual glass :angel:
But because there is no coating on the glass, fingerprints and smudges build up very very quickly, and I had to clean it frequently. Because there's no coating on it there's a bit of friction against your fingertips. I'm sure that some Rain-X or some sort of glass sealant will make the screen a lot more smooth (friction wise, there's no texture on the glass obviously).
Now don't expect the display to magically improve without the ASF. It doesn't become more vibrant, bright, or have any better viewing angles.
But don't think that removing the ASF is pretty much pointless and is a stupid move. The ASF is a stupid move. Unless you slap a screen protector over the ASF as soon as you get the phone, you are going to get scratches because the ASF is so soft. So I got fed up with the marks and decided to just remove it. Now you have glass that is actually hard. Some people are just anti-protector and that's perfectly fine. The Dragontrail glass is tough and it's not gonna get scratched that easily. I think running the bare glass with some sort of sealant, oleophobic coating , or a mix you'll have a nice feeling anti-fingerprint glass. Just reapply when the coating wears off.
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sorry to see that buddy.... try nillkin next time it's smaller than the screen so it's very easy to fit, i did it without hinges, and it's also super slick, i sometimes have a hard time texting cos my fingers are sliding on the glass...
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Please quote wisely !!!
I'm about to order one of these too since it's the only one that doesn't have those ugly cutouts.
Did you order them from this page: apeiros.stores.jp?
I tried ordering from Japanese Amazon but they wouldn't ship them outside of Japan unfortunately.
I'm thinking of getting the front & back set since their camera opening also looks pretty snug on the back. Slightly worried about the flash though.
Any new pictures?
Anon of Holland said:
I'm about to order one of these too since it's the only one that doesn't have those ugly cutouts.
Did you order them from this page: apeiros.stores.jp?
I tried ordering from Japanese Amazon but they wouldn't ship them outside of Japan unfortunately.
I'm thinking of getting the front & back set since their camera opening also looks pretty snug on the back. Slightly worried about the flash though.
Any new pictures?
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Yep you need to order from their page here which is specifically for out of Japan orders.
Then just put in your info like normal and don't worry about the state. You can repeat all the info in the comments field just in case.
I'm actually picking the new one up today and I'll have new pictures up soon. I didn't buy the back though.
There is actually no 0.2mm version set so you'll have to purchase the back glass separately here.
...my naked N5 slipped from my cold, numb fingers and landed flat but face down on a NYC sidewalk a couple days ago. At first it looked like a "soft landing" but no such luck and now I'm looking at a screen replacement (screen itself OK, but glass cracked all to hell).
So now I'm wondering if this could have been prevented simply by a case and not necessarily a screen protector as well. I've used cases such as an Otterbox Commuter in the past but never dropped any of those phones to the extent this one went down. It seems to me that any case with a slight lip on the front -- as most of them must have -- would be enough since the screen itself would not hit the ground.
From research on this forum and web sites I'm currently favoring the Spigen Thin Armor case but am wondering if a high-quality screen protector would also be worth it. My screen at the time it was damaged really had no scratches at all, so the Gorilla Glass was doing its job. Would one of those tempered glass protectors also provide shatter protection? Or would a decent case by itself be sufficient?
FWIW, I've used thin-film protectors in the past but always found them annoying due to bubbles, making the screen less readable, and/or affecting the touch response.
Even with a case on, if there was a small rock or a jagged edge on the ground that nicks the screen, it would have still been toast anyway. This is regardless of if there was a lip protecting it or not. It all depends on what's on the ground by chance.
A tempered glass protector probably could have saved the screen though, since you said it landed flat on its face. Tempered glass protectors are perfect for impacts that land face down, not so much on edges or sides. You will see most demonstrations of tempered glass done with nails, hammers, drop tests, etc. with the phone being impacted directly on the face. If it impacts from the side, there is a good chance the screen could still break as tempered glass isn't really designed to protect from those types of impacts.
That is where the case with a lip comes in. Those are meant to protect from side and edge impacts. Most drops generally don't land flat like yours, they tend to bounce around on corners first, so the case would absorb most of the impact and not the phone directly.
Your best bet is to both have a tempered glass screen protector (for flat impacts), and a bumper frame or TPU case (for the rest).
I use a Nillkin H+ Tempered Glass screen protector and a bumper frame (back not covered as I put a skin on the back) and I'm pretty much covered for most brain lapse moments.
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FWIW, I've used thin-film protectors in the past but always found them annoying due to bubbles, making the screen less readable, and/or affecting the touch response.
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Once you learn the hinge method for putting on screen protectors, you won't have air bubbles or dust underneath. You can't even tell my phone has a screen protector on it. Youtube has several videos on how to do it properly.
I refuse to pay big $$$ for glass protectors because you only get one of them, and you either do it right, or throw it away. With plastic protectors, you get several for a few dollars.
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I refuse to pay big $$$ for glass protectors because you only get one of them, and you either do it right, or throw it away. With plastic protectors, you get several for a few dollars.
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That's not true. I applied and removed my Nillkin more then 10 times during the application to get rid of the dust I missed trapped underneath because I suck at applying screen protectors. It reapplied the same every time. All you have to do is make sure you don't firmly press it down and you're fine. This is even after you see the adhesion process occur. It will still peel up. The adhesive takes a few hours to a day (depending on brand) to fully stick/cure.
If a person like me can apply one glass screen protector, anyone else will do it better. One is all you need.
Plastic will only give basic scratch protection and leave a greasy screen after a while. If it takes the same fall his did, the screen would still be done for.
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I use a Nillkin H+ Tempered Glass screen protector and a bumper frame (back not covered as I put a skin on the back) and I'm pretty much covered for most brain lapse moments.
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What bumper frame do you use? I've been looking for one myself for a while now...
Cases protect the actual body of the phone, and maybe the screen if it happens to land flat. But if a rock of some other elevated object hits the screen then it will be done for. And a plastic screen protector will do nothing, that protects against scratches like from sand. A glass one would be the best bet for shatter protection. I've seen a person take a hammer to a screen with a glass screen protector on. The protector was rekt but the phone screen was fine.
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What bumper frame do you use? I've been looking for one myself for a while now...
Cases protect the actual body of the phone, and maybe the screen if it happens to land flat. But if a rock of some other elevated object hits the screen then it will be done for. And a plastic screen protector will do nothing, that protects against scratches like from sand. A glass one would be the best bet for shatter protection. I've seen a person take a hammer to a screen with a glass screen protector on. The protector was rekt but the phone screen was fine.
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There are 2 that I would probably recommend. I'm currently using a transparent bumper case off of ebay. I did a review here http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/accessories/lucency-transparent-bumper-case-review-t2690108. It is $2.88 shipped. If you do choose this one, I would stick to black. After using them for a while now, the various colours tend to stain easily, but the black doesn't. It is just for light drop protection, but since the main body is a harder plastic, it won't absorb a higher drop like a softer bumper frame, or a TPU case would. I personally like it because it is transparent and you can still see the sides of the phone and the skin through it.
The other is the replica Nexus 4 bumper, for the Nexus 5. Mine is still in the mail so I haven't tried it out yet, but others have bought it and it seems to have gotten pretty good reviews overall. http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/accessories/replica-official-nexus-4-bumper-nexus-5-t2698422. It's a little bit pricier at $12.99 off Amazon, or around $8 - $10 off Aliexpress.
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...my naked N5 slipped from my cold, numb fingers and landed flat but face down on a NYC sidewalk a couple days ago. At first it looked like a "soft landing" but no such luck and now I'm looking at a screen replacement (screen itself OK, but glass cracked all to hell).
So now I'm wondering if this could have been prevented simply by a case and not necessarily a screen protector as well. I've used cases such as an Otterbox Commuter in the past but never dropped any of those phones to the extent this one went down. It seems to me that any case with a slight lip on the front -- as most of them must have -- would be enough since the screen itself would not hit the ground.
From research on this forum and web sites I'm currently favoring the Spigen Thin Armor case but am wondering if a high-quality screen protector would also be worth it. My screen at the time it was damaged really had no scratches at all, so the Gorilla Glass was doing its job. Would one of those tempered glass protectors also provide shatter protection? Or would a decent case by itself be sufficient?
FWIW, I've used thin-film protectors in the past but always found them annoying due to bubbles, making the screen less readable, and/or affecting the touch response.
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There are many choices for thicker protection cases. Properly applied screen protectors don't have any bubbles.
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Hey! There's a kickstarter project for someone: A case with airbags that deploy when the phone finds itself in free-fall .
Claghorn said:
Hey! There's a kickstarter project for someone: A case with airbags that deploy when the phone finds itself in free-fall .
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Those sly people at Honda have already done it.
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Hey! There's a kickstarter project for someone: A case with airbags that deploy when the phone finds itself in free-fall .
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I don't think I'd feel comfortable having that in my side pocket close to my family jewels or especially not in my back pocket.
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Those sly people at Honda have already done it.
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