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What's the big hype?

I hope I don't offend anyone and I'm not trying to start any war between AOKP and CM9 but I just wanted to know what's the big hype about CM9? I see some features in AOKP that I haven't seen in CM9. Just seems like everyone is going crazy over CM and I've flashed their rom before and enjoyed their hard work and I am thankful of every team out there that makes Roms. Don't want to seem like that bad guy.

A lot of people have been running CM for a long time (like since CM5 launched). Its that quintessential custom ROM that lots of people have an attachment to I think.

martonikaj said:
A lot of people have been running CM for a long time (like since CM5 launched). Its that quintessential custom ROM that lots of people have an attachment to I think.
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Gotcha, thats understandable. I just expected them to blow other roms out the water but AOKP has been extremely stable and full of customization.

From my expierence on the boards (going back to when the HTC EVO was the biggest baddest on the block) CM is a nameplate that carrys a long history of being a very lightweight Rom . It has always had a good sized list of developers on its team through during its time . Its also known as one of the roms that usually has multipul devices under its sleeves . Not to go overboard but finding better fitting descriptions . They are more or less legend when it comes to roms . There has always been a CM(x) out there . Im sure there will always been a CM(x) for future devices as well . I think basically the convience is as people switch devices as time goes on there is always a constant these people can look to and that is CM . Atleast thats my take on it

SouthernEvo said:
From my expierence on the boards (going back to when the HTC EVO was the biggest baddest on the block) CM is a nameplate that carrys a long history of being a very lightweight Rom . It has always had a good sized list of developers on its team through during its time . Its also known as one of the roms that usually has multipul devices under its sleeves . Not to go overboard but finding better fitting descriptions . They are more or less legend when it comes to roms . There has always been a CM(x) out there . Im sure there will always been a CM(x) for future devices as well . I think basically the convience is as people switch devices as time goes on there is always a constant these people can look to and that is CM . Atleast thats my take on it
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cool cool. thanks for your input. I ran their rom when I had my G2x and i liked it

Soldi3rxx said:
Gotcha, thats understandable. I just expected them to blow other roms out the water but AOKP has been extremely stable and full of customization.
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You also have to understand that cyanogenmod just released their first nightly for the Galaxy Nexus, while AOKP has been out for some time (though I don't know exactly how long since I'm fairly new to the galaxy nexus myself). CM also has supported tons of devices (over 60 if wikipedia is right ).

Stability, lightweight, and an approach that borders straight professionalism. That's why I like CM and have always had it on mine--and my friends'--phones.
Some roms are really, really fun and have a variety of positives (and negatives). Other roms choose to improve upon the basic Android OS and offer the user that functions simply but contains a host of neat features. CM is the latter in my book.

CM9 currently lacks some settings other roms have. That said CM9 will add them and much more, work on a plethora of devices and remain working with updates long after many of these other Roms are long dead.

CM9 may lack some features compared to other roms but no roms lack in features borrowed from CM9.

Talk to me when AOKP supports 50+ devices....
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I think with ICS everything changed and cyan got set back significantly due to drastic OS changes. So yes aokp is far ahead right now.

adrynalyne said:
CM9 may lack some features compared to other roms but no roms lack in features borrowed from CM9.
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I'm not sure if this saying still works, but "quoted for truth."
A rom without ANY CM influence/features is a rarity, and dare I say it pretty impossible to find.
CM9 may lack features, but so far it's the most stable "nightly" I've come across.

matt2053 said:
Talk to me when AOKP supports 50+ devices....
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It's actually slowly going in that direction with the multiple device support of AOKP expanding to many devices including the T-Mobile Vibrant (recently!)

dmmarck said:
I'm not sure if this saying still works, but "quoted for truth."
A rom without ANY CM influence/features is a rarity, and dare I say it pretty impossible to find
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You are right. I think that even MIUI has borrowed some stuff from cm sources(read it from some thread).
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ljordan2 said:
You are right. I think that even MIUI has borrowed some stuff from cm sources(read it from some thread).
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Yup have heard the same.
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ljordan2 said:
You are right. I think that even MIUI has borrowed some stuff from cm sources(read it from some thread).
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Some? A lot of MIUI is based off of CM source.

CM9 has been slower out of the gates because of reasons already mentioned; namely a huge stable of devices to support, the build bot was borked for quite a while as well. Settings will come in time, again # of devices. They also lay the ground work for many other ROMs, not to say that there aren't people doing a lot of coding of their own.
For many devices they're the only AOSP like ROM available. It's stable and quick, but if you absolutely need a lot of the custom settings right now, then you'll have to look elsewhere for the moment.

cm rom are good and much much more stable, from my own experience.

mudferret said:
For many devices they're the only AOSP like ROM available. It's stable and quick, but if you absolutely need a lot of the custom settings right now, then you'll have to look elsewhere for the moment.
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So what is the point of flashing CM9 on the GNex? Stock is already stable and quick and CM9 doesn't seem to have any extra features..

gabster21 said:
So what is the point of flashing CM9 on the GNex? Stock is already stable and quick and CM9 doesn't seem to have any extra features..
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There is no stock 4.0.3 for the GN
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Vinilla ICS

Im just curious if we will ever get a rom that is based on vanilla ICS and not CM9 or MIUI? I know that We wont ever get an official update, but ive seen a bunch of different handsets that dont have official roms with a working ICS vanilla rom in progress or already working.

Why? Cm9 is better optimized and has fixes
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metalblaster said:
Im just curious if we will ever get a rom that is based on vanilla ICS and not CM9 or MIUI? I know that We wont ever get an official update, but ive seen a bunch of different handsets that dont have official roms with a working ICS vanilla rom in progress or already working.
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You can make cm9 as vanilla as you want. Its more customizable than stock...
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Higher powers forbid you to ever say anything remotely negative about CM. But I'll second that. "CleanICS" would be sweet.
CM6 I wouldn't touch because the bug list was huge. Sure, you can have CM, but your phone wont properly work.
I tried CM7 and found it about as comfortable for a daily runner as wearing a burlap undershirt.
CM9 is still just an Alpha, so even though folks are raving about it there's still little chance it's any better than the above. All that customization, I don't give a rip. I'd rather have my phone working, normally.
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mjben said:
Higher powers forbid you to ever say anything remotely negative about CM. But I'll second that. "CleanICS" would be sweet.
CM6 I wouldn't touch because the bug list was huge. Sure, you can have CM, but your phone wont properly work.
I tried CM7 and found it about as comfortable for a daily runner as wearing a burlap undershirt.
CM9 is still just an Alpha, so even though folks are raving about it there's still little chance it's any better than the above. All that customization, I don't give a rip. I'd rather have my phone working, normally.
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I am a fan of as many options and ROMS for our phones as we can have. I guess my point is you can make CM9 as watered down as you want. CM9 is as close to an ICS release as we will ever see on the Epic, seeing as there will never be a "stock" version. I guess its just user preference and I am a fan of all ROMS really. But it sounds like all you need, is to pick the ROM you want to run and apply an ICS theme.

adamdelozier said:
I am a fan of as many options and ROMS for our phones as we can have. I guess my point is you can make CM9 as watered down as you want. CM9 is as close to an ICS release as we will ever see on the Epic, seeing as there will never be a "stock" version. I guess its just user preference and I am a fan of all ROMS really. But it sounds like all you need, is to pick the ROM you want to run and apply an ICS theme.
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Yeah i was talking to a sprint rep a few weeks ago and i was talking to him about ICS and hey basically said " Yeah!, i was talking to samsung and they straight up told me we wouldn't be able to ICS on the phone because the TW UI requires a lot and all the software they bloat it on" But you'd think even if they did update it and stripped TW simple and clean but yet stylish and removed excess bloatware and a few mods it could happen. That it still would make people buy newer products but also have more support for them because their throwing newer support for old tech.

I guess i just dont see why devs would go through the trouble of making an aosp ics build for us when we already have cm9 which is based on it, just with some enhancements. Aosp would not somehow run better or be a better option for a daily driver.. its just a step backward from cm in terms of options and customizability.
By a gnex if u really want haha
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[Q] AOKP VS DS e3 v7

Hi guys, just recently came over from juggs. Currently running ds v7, im having app hangs and was wondering the honest opinion of aokp vs ds for those who have tried both. I will keep ds for now and see if problems persist. If so ill test aokp. Thanks.

Vibreezy said:
Hi guys, just recently came over from juggs. Currently running ds v7, im having app hangs and was wondering the honest opinion of aokp vs ds for those who have tried both. I will keep ds for now and see if problems persist. If so ill test aokp. Thanks.
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Completely depends on the person TBH. I am currently running ICS Telus Darkside ROM as my daily driver and it's a fantastic ROM, no issues that I can complain about.
AOKP is also an amazing ROM. It's vanilla android so you don't get any bloat that you would typically get from the carrier. You also don't get manufacturer specific apps like Samsung Kies and Social Hub. What you do get is a very lean, very fast ROM with oodles and oodles of customizations.
Doesn't hurt to try and see what you like best. Just remember to make a nandroid. Peace and happy flashing. :laugh:

Vibreezy said:
Hi guys, just recently came over from juggs. Currently running ds v7, im having app hangs and was wondering the honest opinion of aokp vs ds for those who have tried both. I will keep ds for now and see if problems persist. If so ill test aokp. Thanks.
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Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.

jonjon68 said:
Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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Your high
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tdizzle404 said:
Your high
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In a way he's right. Aokp has issues for me as far as how out chooses to mount the Sd cards,.but so does cm9. Dark side would be the best of not for the app hang issue that remains present. The ics megamix rom has given me the best performance thus far as stability is concerned.
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jonjon68 said:
Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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Wow, what an insult to the AOKP guys. To be honest both AOKP and cm9 had some of the same issues recently. So for you to talk down AOKP because that is how you come off, is putting down cm9 as well. Be careful as these teams put in a lot of free hardworking time for us.
To answer the op question.. I like both but I like AOKP better. They fixed the audio problem that drove us crazy thanks to some great team work from another group. Only issue I have ran into with whitehawkx recent build is panoramic is having audio issues. Other than that this is an amazing well put together very customizable rom. The lockscreen is pretty awesome as well. Here are a few pics.
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jonjon68 said:
Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI.
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That is a load of garbage. However, CM is another option worth considering.

jonjon68 said:
Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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Hope you are wearing the right clothing, cuz you're about to get flamed.
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I say use both, I came from darkside to AOKP, but I still have darkside v7 as my nandroid back up just in case, give aokp a test run like I am right now and see where it takes you, no opinion is better than hands on experience.

Thanks all, just flashed ds so ill run it for at least a day then nandriod it and give aokp a whirl. Tbh i CAME from juggs and not a diff version of ds so i may like aokp better. Anyone got theme links for aokp?

Darkside evolution is what I'm using. Not getting any app hangs
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Since aokp is based off of cm9 they are a lot alike but aokp has more customizable features to it. There are bugs in both cm9 and aokp but it's to be expected with nightlies until it hits the stable. I have tried DS and prefer to stick with aokp. IMO
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jonjon68 said:
Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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your 2c Don't mean a damn thing...
Lol the aokp team is pretty pro mate...
sorry unlike u some of us devs have more then just 7z skills or the people u downloaded roms from were just branded stock fail...
N people wonder why most the sgs2 devs left....
and JohnJon if you knew anything you would know miui is just a straight kang of cm with no credit given... The miui team still cant build there own rom from source without borrowing from cm wonder why that is...........
@ the person who asked which is better honestly go Aokp... Alot more customizatons then cm9.. Its fast its stably and you cant go worng with the pink unicorn...

Vibreezy said:
Hi guys, just recently came over from juggs. Currently running ds v7, im having app hangs and was wondering the honest opinion of aokp vs ds for those who have tried both. I will keep ds for now and see if problems persist. If so ill test aokp. Thanks.
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to be honest if u ever have a issue with any rom make sure you start from clean slate wipe every thing wipe it again hell after that wipe it a third time to be safe then install.. Let rom sit for 20 mins before u do anything then add your apps back.. Dont use any restores as alot of times it causes more issues then a simple re download would have done better with.

jonjon68 said:
Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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You're an idiot.
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Optimizer said:
You're an idiot.
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he lost all credibility at the miui team being a real developer lol.
this no offense was a large part in having issues with deving for this device every new release had 12 pages of *****ing not any constructive comments...

jonjon68 said:
Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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WOW... That has to be the most disrespectful comment I've ever read. Do you realize how many devices the aokp team supports and how much work they put in for FREE and you go off saying they are a bunch of script kiddie edits.. These are the type of comments that has our section deemed the black sheep of android due to people like this disrespecting real devs. Next time keep your 2 cents in your pocket.

I have tried various builds of AOKP and CM9 and I keep going back to Darkside. TDJ is super helpful; if there are issues he responds light speed and gets them fixed.
AOKP and CM9 are nicer looking, I will give it that. I did, however, find that they are both buggier than darkside ROMS, as an example on both AOKP and CM9 I found that many programs did not recognize my external SD and the usual fixes did not work for me, or they did work and soon the apps would not recognize the external SD again.

Vibreezy said:
Hi guys, just recently came over from juggs. Currently running ds v7, im having app hangs and was wondering the honest opinion of aokp vs ds for those who have tried both. I will keep ds for now and see if problems persist. If so ill test aokp. Thanks.
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Troll attempt?? You have to know how defensive folks get about the dd they choose to run.
Anyway, take features into consideration when choosing. I can't live without MMS over wifi so tmobile builds are the only way to go, for me. I do flash other ROMS pretty regularly but for me pushing the tech and seeing what the devs are capable of is where the real fun is...

[Q] Should I Install CM 10?

I am a long time Android and long time CM user. I have been using an LG G2x for way too long and finally got fed up with it. I have a brand new Galaxy S3 arriving tomorrow and am trying to figure out what to do when I get it.
For those of you have have used both the stock OS and CM 10, what are the advantages of each? By rooting and installing CM 10, what stock Samsung features will I lose? Are there any you think I might actually miss? So just in general, I was hoping someone who used both the stock OS and CM 10 for a decent amount of time could explain to me exactly what I will gain/lose by rooting and installing CM 10 on this phone. Thanks!

Not a good thread at all to start up man, just try them out and see for your self. Every one likes different things so it's kind of hard for us to just assume your needs... you know what I mean? Lots like both for different reasons, some always revert back to a stock rom some always go back to a cm rom.
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Leave it stock but rooted for the first few days to see what you think. Many think the extra features and that its stable and fast are worth staying stock based. Still a lot of others opt for cm or aokp regardless. Just give em both their fsir chance!
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flash the latest cm10 nightly. They work for Samsung and all
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mt3g said:
Not a good thread at all to start up man, just try them out and see for your self. Every one likes different things so it's kind of hard for us to just assume your needs... you know what I mean? Lots like both for different reasons, some always revert back to a stock rom some always go back to a cm rom.
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That is why I didn't ask if I should flash CM 10 or not. I very simply asked what the differences were between stock and CM 10. I am wondering what features I will have with stock that I will lose with CM 10 and vice versa. That is a very fair question to ask of people who have already used both. I am trying to avoid trying both by going through a hassle and having to reinstall my programs and reconfigure my settings multiple times if I don't have to.

You lose all samsung stock features. That should be a no brainer. No motion activities, no smart stay (natively) no touchwiz, no wifi calling. Vanilla stock is what it always is, clean, no bloat, and super fast... what I said wasnt in any way being rude. It was exteremly truthful, and to the point.
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mt3g said:
You lose all samsung stock features. That should be a no brainer. No motion activities, no smart stay (natively) no touchwiz, no wifi calling. Vanilla stock is what it always is, clean, no bloat, and super fast... what I said wasnt in any way being rude. It was exteremly truthful, and to the point.
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Wifi calling doesn't work on CM 10? I have been using it on CM 7 for my G2x.
So do you miss any of those Samsung features? I guess are they gimmicky or actually nice to have? From reviews, I have read that stock is really fast, so not sure if I gain speed by going to CM. Have you noticed speed improvements with CM 10 over stock?

I know but its so deeply integrated into framework and settings now its a pain. And no I personally don't miss those gimmicky features, but allot of people do. I stick to tw roms, because of battery. It always seems to last longer on stock based roms for me. Otherwise I prefer cm based roms. Lets just say I'll be moving to cm as soon as I feel it is closer to 100% in my eyes. Or the nexus 4 lol. And the only way I can feel it being 100% is by me testing it, not asking others. That's what I meant with my 1st post.
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I have to agree with mt3g here. AOSP ROMs are not the same as TW ROMs. I used TW for awhile when I first got my SGS3 and flashed pretty much all of them out there. I wasn't concerned with battery use, as I consider myself a battery expert. I was more interested in performance and features that were exclusive to TW and AOSP. They are so different that the only way to really get to know each other is to test drive them yourself.
Now I am on LiquidSmooth (AOSP base) and I love it. I am getting massive battery life, have tethering (I thethered my tablet to is almost all day yesterday after a bad flash [on the tablet not the phone]), Theme chooser springs a bit of life back into the eyecandy part. <--sometimes people flash not bc they want a new ROM but a new look .
Will I go back to TW? Sure. I tested Doc's ROM before he released it and I like it plenty enough to run it as a daily driver. But this is XDA and what are here for?
What do we want? A custom ROM
When do we want it? NO ETAs!!!! :cyclops:

Woodrube said:
I have to agree with mt3g here. AOSP ROMs are not the same as TW ROMs. I used TW for awhile when I first got my SGS3 and flashed pretty much all of them out there. I wasn't concerned with battery use, as I consider myself a battery expert. I was more interested in performance and features that were exclusive to TW and AOSP. They are so different that the only way to really get to know each other is to test drive them yourself.
Now I am on LiquidSmooth (AOSP base) and I love it. I am getting massive battery life, have tethering (I thethered my tablet to is almost all day yesterday after a bad flash [on the tablet not the phone]), Theme chooser springs a bit of life back into the eyecandy part. <--sometimes people flash not bc they want a new ROM but a new look .
Will I go back to TW? Sure. I tested Doc's ROM before he released it and I like it plenty enough to run it as a daily driver. But this is XDA and what are here for?
What do we want? A custom ROM
When do we want it? NO ETAs!!!! :cyclops:
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Very well said. :good:
I personally never ever ran a touchwiz or sense ROMs on any device I've ever owned for more than a day. I just missed the full control cm ROMs give. Ever since my HD2 I've ran cm7 up to cm10 on my s3. I really never notice the features being lost from a tw ROM mostly because I don't use them. Never really thought their "advertised" features were all that.
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I am running on a CM10 based rom and the only stock Samsung feature I miss is the Smart Stay. Everything else was just too gimmicky

Pretty sure there is an app for most of the samsung features.
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I stuck to stock ICS TW for a couple of days and I didn't enjoy it.
It just seemed too much and I wanted a closer to stock experience.
Made the switch to CM10. Greatest thing ever.
It's simple, effective, and works in pretty much every way that I would like.
The only thing that I miss from TW is the Messaging app.

jimbo831 said:
I am a long time Android and long time CM user. I have been using an LG G2x for way too long and finally got fed up with it. I have a brand new Galaxy S3 arriving tomorrow and am trying to figure out what to do when I get it.
For those of you have have used both the stock OS and CM 10, what are the advantages of each? By rooting and installing CM 10, what stock Samsung features will I lose? Are there any you think I might actually miss? So just in general, I was hoping someone who used both the stock OS and CM 10 for a decent amount of time could explain to me exactly what I will gain/lose by rooting and installing CM 10 on this phone. Thanks!
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Do you use Skype, Vox, or any other VOIP app? If you do, then don't flash CM10, AOKP or any other AOSP based rom.

sovereignty68 said:
Do you use Skype, Vox, or any other VOIP app? If you do, then don't flash CM10, AOKP or any other AOSP based rom.
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May I know why? I'm right now with the Galaxy SI and on CM10, hoping to get the S3 and on the same dilemma. Right now my Skype works well on the CM10, Viber works only on speaker phone.

Having tried cm 10/aokp as well as TW ROMs for extended periods of time, I can say the following:
Although at first missing a certain TW feature might seem like a drawback- the feeling comes from what you're used to, and after a few days or week you will likely forget those features which you previously had which you thought were so important. For me the TW calendar (s Planner) was the big thing I was missing- since for a while I really couldn't find a good substitute which looked as good and performed as well! Finally I found one, so now I don't even compare anymore, but even if I hadn't found a substitute I'm sure I would have moved on at some point.
Point is, base your choice on the majority of the benefits that you'll get from the respective ROM. Personally, I like aokp/cm10 precisely because of its overall simplistic aesthetic ( I'm in love with the native jelly bean fonts used in the notification bar) and its native ability to theme. In terms of performance and extra tweaks, there are plenty of custom TW ROMs which are on par with the aosp ones (IMO). So I think it comes down to the overall feel/look, and pure personal preference.
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jimbo831 said:
I am a long time Android and long time CM user. I have been using an LG G2x for way too long and finally got fed up with it. I have a brand new Galaxy S3 arriving tomorrow and am trying to figure out what to do when I get it.
For those of you have have used both the stock OS and CM 10, what are the advantages of each? By rooting and installing CM 10, what stock Samsung features will I lose? Are there any you think I might actually miss? So just in general, I was hoping someone who used both the stock OS and CM 10 for a decent amount of time could explain to me exactly what I will gain/lose by rooting and installing CM 10 on this phone. Thanks!
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you will lose wifi calling, you will lose the ability to upload music straight from the music player to drop box, you will lose your mind, however, once you run a JB ROM and use google now for the first time, and you will go ape over the amount of customization available to cm10 users.
honestly, used "stock" for about 3 weeks when i first got my device back in july, flashed cm10, and never looked back. words cannot describe how amazing and feature-packed a cm10 ROM is...
flash hellfire 1.3 (if you don't mind the red), and give slim bean a shot if you don't want the red. I have had nothing but positive results with those two.
also, follow my guide in this section for the flashing process.
good luck.

WiFi calling
For me WiFi calling is the biggest feature, and extremely important. I don't have T-Mobile signal in my lab, where I spend most of the time and WiFi calling is the only hope. This is why I'm staying with the stock for now.
But if anyone can show me a way to get WiFi calling on CM10, I will be really thankful. Hate the stock rom from the bottom of my heart!!
-Thanks

The camera on cm10 is whats holding me back but once they come out with cm10.1 based on JB 4.2 then i think ill root and rom my phone.
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[Q] ROM bible for the GS3?

So, with so many ROMs out for our beloved SGS 3, how could one decide which ROM they want to try? trying all the ROMs can be time consuming, so i remembered a ROM bible thread from way back in the HTC G1 forum. basically, each individual ROM was rated based on stability, speed, battery life, force closes(not really a problem for us, i imagine), and overall daily use friendliness rating. are there any gentlemen who would like to start such a thread? i'm not a developer by any means, otherwise i would gladly take lead. anyhow, here's the thread\ROM bible:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668090

I have the next few weeks off, well starting tonight, and might take a stab at it, if someone wants to team up and share some thoughts on how to break it up we can easily knock something nice out with in a week or so im definitely in. Ive read almost all all threads im an avid AOKP/ CM user but need wifi calling in aome areas so try a lot of the TOUCHWIZ based roms also.
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After this week I have a lot of free time until mid January or something like that (college ends and another semester starts in January ) so if you need help then I would be more then happy to help, just give me time until Friday to pass my finals :thumbup:
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Haha what a bad idea.

If you'd like to PM me with rom you have used and or like to use and are willing to test. I've tried almost all TW ROMs besides maybe 2 of them, CM based I haven't tried the ones with Paranoid in it besides PacMan ROM I did try that one.
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psykhotic said:
Haha what a bad idea.
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Wow. That's helpful. Great comment...
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He does that ALOT
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In my experience there are two subsets of ROMs.
1. Custom Roms (AOKP / Cyanogen mod / Paranoid Android): Most customizations less stability
2. Near stock Touchwiz(TW) ROMs or AOSP: Best stability and generally less customizations
What I suggest to people looking to install a ROM is to stick with a AOSP ROM that includes some customization, sure AOKP / CM is awesome and I love what they do but their ROMs are flaky and problem prone. My problem is that I really hate TW ROMs due to the lack of functions that I really enjoy in custom roms and the lack of being able to change certain features.
-Drag across the top to change brightness: Fixes my issue with auto brightness
-Hold back to kill
-Toggles
-Circle battery (though I think this is also in some)
-no annoying lockscreen -.-
One ROM I am looking at is Liquid Smooth because its an AOSP ROM with some AOKP customizations. Unfortunately for me that the only version so far that I have used with little issue is RC8 (with CM kernel) but I hear others have better luck than I do.
Also would like to point out that JB is being released (or has been) so some roms should improve on the stability.