So, the question is simple. What do you want on the next Nexus?
e.e why? are u personally gonna make jelly bean?
- Google
Non pentile screen
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Non pentile screen
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They really need to change that =_=
- Google
A battery that lasts all day... maybe even longer.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1628049\
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1619082
Non amoled screen. Or the amoled that doesn't get burn ins even after mild usage. Thank you.
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Well I surprisingly reversed my burn in.
Anyway amoled non pentile is coming in due time. Samsung couldn't yet make full rgb at such a high pixel density...yet. but it will get there soon. Just look at the time line for their previous development from amoled to plus, and extrapolate that time.
I want at least 8mp camera, 2GB RAM, 1.5GHz Quad Core, much better GPU, microSD support, higher capacity battery and a non-pentile display (I would prefer LCD2 but its Samsung)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1628049\
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1619082
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Thought this looked familiar.
Here is another.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1615880
No one mentioned the obvious, microSD slot, but that will not happen.
Simmo3D said:
I want at least 8mp camera, 2GB RAM, 1.5GHz Quad Core, much better GPU, microSD support, higher capacity battery and a non-pentile display (I would prefer LCD2 but its Samsung)
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+1 to this. Perfection.
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Thought this looked familiar.
Here is another.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1615880
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Thanks. Knew there were more. Figured the first 2 were enough.
I want the full Google experience:
Google fiber rolled out to major cities as network backbone for Nexus flagship devices. Pentaband still present for use on GSM networks with 100 mins and 100mb per month for GSM roaming included. Google voice and SIP used for voice on fiber network.
More realistically:
-16gb storage is fine, but Google experience phones are also granted 20gb on Google Drive.
-Nexus available on Play Store within 2 weeks of announcement. No carrier lock. Same $399 price.
-Super Amoled+ HD
-better GPU
-Wireless charging or at least car and desk docks with functional 3-pin at launch
-Dual core, or quad core with Ubuntu for Android
-Application settings and data auto backed up
and restored using Google Drive (especially game data)
-Air play like functionality
-Better voice control
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Only three things: better camera, MicroSD slot and please, don't make it bigger! Bigger isn't = better. Just take a look at Galaxy Note adds, only elephants can use it :-( I don't want to carry a tablet in my pocket every day.
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Everything is just about perfect. I would love to see higher premium build material and larger battery. Dual core SoC and Pentile screen I can live with.
micro sd slot, better gpu, better camera, tegra 3 or better, better battery, and most importantly, please google find a company that has better build quality than samsung like motorola or htc (and if possible waterproff)
The feature to auto delete duplicate threads like this one . Also the feature that makes you use search before you post .
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No one mentioned the obvious, microSD slot, but that will not happen.
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It was mentioned... just didn't read =P
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Still don't understand the need for 2gb of ram on a phone. There is no app that utilizes that, no arm processor manly enough to thrash 2gb of ram and it's just a battery suck just to have 2gb of ram. The I need my this or that instantly just doesn't justify keeping bigger ram in a phone for the battery drain and almost instantaneous output for a .5 second gain. This is one of those things where efficiency of software, hardware and better I/o from storage need to be hammered down. The whole 2gb of ram thing is just ludicrous for a handheld. Much bigger gains are to be had from discrete gpu ram and faster storage. And those cost more money and suck battery too. But while we're making corny wish lists gddr5 ram and ssd in the next phone. And octo core. Why stop at 4 even though there is no use for it? And just to blow it out I don't want a battery on my next phone. Just terminal leads for a 12volt I can carry in a back pack. That way it solves the whole non/removeable battery thing in one fell swoop, the phone will be lighter and and can accommodate all our ludicrous technology wants. Or is it needs?
Dear Santa, I really like what we have. Id be happy with an a15 dual core, sgx543mp2 and all the other accoutrements omap chip sets have and an SD card slot in the jelly bean phone debut. I was a really good boy this year I promise. Love spanky.
let it be.
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I'd like to try and maintain an ongoing list of what the community has to say about this phone. Hopefully people can make a well informed buying decision with the help of this list.
Pros
Nexus. Will be maintained by google, not the carrier.
Screen. Native 720p 4.65", Super AMOLED
4G
ICS
NFC
1.2Ghz Dual Core OMAP 4460
size - despite the 4.65" screen size it is not much bigger than other phones with 4.3",4.5" displays
Bluetooth 4.0+HS if/when software supports it
Cons
Non expandable storage. While the device comes with 16GB/32GB storage and does support external USB media, it adds extra bulk to the phone. There are no simple ways to extend your storage capabilities without adding extra bulk, or risking losing data coverage and not being able to access your cloud storage.
Mixed Opinions
Lack of Gorilla Glass. Will have another brand of unknown quality.
Outdated GPU. I put this in mixed opinions as many people speculate that this hardware was hand picked by the makers of android, and has already proven to handle anything thrown at it.
Lack of physical buttons. Really depends on the user. I personally like where they are going with this.
Exclusiveness. There are many rumors, and this will be moved or deleted when we know more. I personally find it to be a con if it is truly exclusive to Verizon, as the more carriers offer this, the more people will get there hands on it, hence more developers will flock to this phone.
Price. Currently we only have an unofficial price for the international version, which I don't see any complaints for.
Please feel free to post what you think should be added or moved on this list.
He edited his post and mixed opinions.
I voided my warranty and your nexus.
Mixed opinions on size.
Con: huuuge top bezel!!!!
Indeed, I originally had under mixed opinions, that both the CPU/GPU were outdated as the SGSII has a 1.5 Dual core, clock speeds can be decieving. There is no doubt that this 1.2 can compete with the rest of the high end devices with higher clock speed.
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Mixed opinions on size.
Con: huuuge top bezel!!!!
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Personally, don't see an issue with the size, nor do I see many others commenting on its size. It is comparable to all the other devices currently being released. I will be keeping these off the list until I see a few others request them to be added.
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Mixed opinions on size.
Con: huuuge top bezel!!!!
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i guess i would second this and here's why. is it Huuuge? no, its the same as other phones. However, that is what makes it a con, it is the same as other phones. the nexus inst meant to be the same as other phones. Each nexus is meant to be a taste of the future. Just my $.02
The bezel is larger than most phones by HTC and Motorola. It's comparible to the Galaxy series and the iPhone... Take a look at how thin the bezel is on the HTC DesireHD/Inspire. There's only just enough room for the speaker grill, that's it. The bottom bezel actually serves a functional purpose, making the use of the phone more comfortable, but the top? Urgh...
The only cons is size IMO. Everything else is great. But since my SGS2 is perfect size IMO, I hope Galaxy Nexus will be OK too.
A huge pro for me is that, the hardware was specifically created to work with ICS, sometimes I just feel that other devices just slap an update on a phone to get it out there and then you get a bunch of bugs and defects. Also knowing that this phone, is the phone in mind when making future OTA updates.
I wanted a Nexus device ever since the Nexus One came out but I had Verizon, I'm very happy to hear that I can have one now.
I'm only hoping that the with the 5 MP camera, will a have very nice lense and shutter so it can at least compare to my Incredible 2 or maybe even the iPhone.
i've mixed opinions about the CPU
it's only 1.2 Ghz
looking forward to see how it fares against Exynos 1.2 Ghz & Qualcomms 1.5 Ghz
-con: android.
Non expandable storage
I used to think this was an issue but two things changed my mind. 1) I got a Galaxy Tab. No removable storage and I never think about it. It was a big con when the Tab came out but nobody even talks about this anymore. 2) I've had Android phones for 2 years now. All of them have had removable SD cards. Funny thing, I've never removed them.
Lack of Gorilla Glass. Will have another brand of unknown quality.
I've never had Gorilla Glass and have never broken a phone's glass. Not an issue to me. I'm careful.
Lack of physical buttons.
No physical buttons on the Galaxy Tab (Honeycomb). It's a LOT better than physical buttons. Why? ALL Android devices from now on will have the same layout. I've had an Original Droid, an Incredible and now a Thunderbolt. The button layout isn't the same on these devices. I still find I'm pressing the back when I meant the home button. That never happens to me on the Tab.
Exclusiveness.
I'm a Verizon user, my company's a Verizon user. Not an issue. I'm glad for this. I can use data when the guy standing next to me with an AT&T Android phone gets "no network" messages. Other than those two phone companies the others are just niche players.
Physical Size
Before my Thunderbolt I had an Incredible. I considered the Incredible the perfect size. Light, thin and fit well in the shirt pocket. Never, I said, would I go to the massively large phone. Then I got a Thunderbolt. I can't imagine what I was thinking. I was a size-bigot fool. The size of the Thunderbolt is fabulous. Yes, it's a tad heavier than the Incredible but it feels well in the hand and the screen size is perfect. I was one of those who made a brash statement without the experience to go with it. Now that I've have experience with both a small phone and a large phone I'll never go back to the small screen again. I say, for those of you with large screen phobias, say nothing until you've experienced it for a week or two. I bet you'll change your mind.
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Pros
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Nexus. Will be maintained by google, not the carrier.
Screen. Native 720p 4.65", etc...
ICS
1.2Ghz Dual Core
Cons
Non expandable storage
Mixed Opinions
Lack of Gorilla Glass. Will have another brand of unknown quality.
Outdated GPU. I put this in mixed opinions as many people speculate that this hardware was hand picked by the makers of android, and has already proven to handle anything thrown at it.
Lack of physical buttons. Really depends on the user. I personally like where they are going with this.
Exclusiveness. There are many rumors, and this will be moved or deleted when we know more. I personally find it to be a con if it is truly exclusive to Verizon, as the more carriers offer this, the more people will get there hands on it, hence more developers will flock to this phone.
Price. Currently we only have an unofficial price for the international version, which I don't see any complaints for.
Please feel free to post what you think should be added or moved on this list.
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OK. I agree with all of this.
Nexus line is great, it can overwhelm phones from 2 generations ahead.
The screen resolution is great too. Pentile doesn't even matter, the resolution almost omits its presence.
ICS. Much smoother. Much more customization. Much more versatile and beautiful.
The CPU it more than enough. People are *****ing about "OH ****! Only 1.2GHz?!", but really, that's way more than enough, unless you're a benchmark bug. "Yo! I got a phone that already runs everything great, but I just want a better one because I want 10k Quadrant points...! Fuuuuuu!"
When you say "Non-Expandable Storage", no phone has that. Even SD compatible phones are limited to xGB size SD card maximum. For example, the RAZR will have a maximum of 48 GB because 16 internal + 32 SD Maximum = 48. And also, 32 GB of super fast NAND memory is great. I don't know what you want to ***** about. You wanna have super HD videos and/or photos? Just keep putting them on your PC instead of mass storing them on your phone without need.
The lack of Gorilla Glass is well put under Mixed Opinions, since it might mean something BETTER than Gorilla Glass. The Nexus S had a very very resistive glass technology/material.
The outdated GPU: Did anyone prove that this GPU is outdated? In terms of sufficient performance for Android platform? Did anyone show that? I don't think so. And you don't too. I think people are just *****ing about it the same way I explained it for the CPU.
Lack of physical buttons: I think this is an element that Google decided to have because it can enable much much more creativity. I believe that CM team or Google itself will unlock a way of changing the button icon, or even add or remove buttons. I think it is really great, and it probably also cuts down a bit on prices since physical buttons are basically a touch-capable screen/membrane for each button, which would possibly cost a little bit instead of making a little bigger screen for buttons.
Exclusiveness: Not a problem in my country, I believe, so, no comments here.
Price: Pretty much unknown, but I'm expecting a 500 ~ 600€ range (700 ~ 800$).
AllGamer said:
i've mixed opinions about the CPU
it's only 1.2 Ghz
looking forward to see how it fares against Exynos 1.2 Ghz & Qualcomms 1.5 Ghz
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A 1.2 dual-core exynos is better than a 1.5 dual-core qualcomm. And a brand new OMAP 4460 1.2 dual-core is at the very least equaled to, if not better than, the 1.5 qualcomm as snapdragon's are probably the lesser performing of processors available
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JCopernicus said:
-con: android.
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What? GTFO and get a gay iphone then.
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kidserious said:
A 1.2 dual-core exynos is better than a 1.5 dual-core qualcomm. And a brand new OMAP 4460 1.2 dual-core is at the very least equaled to, if not better than, the 1.5 qualcomm as snapdragon's are probably the lesser performing of processors available
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DITTO!!! WTF are folks complaining about with this type of hardware being outdated??? Huh??? Outdated??? We're talking about 1.2 dual-core proc that will be fitt'in in something that can put in your front shirt pocket, along with a multi-touch screen, and enough memory that you wouldn't be able to shake a stick at!
Anyway, i'm sure enough looking for the 32gb version.
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What? GTFO and get a gay iphone then.
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You got trolled, son.
Anyway!
Pros:
- ICS
- Google supported
- LTE-capable
- NFC
Cons:
- Pentile
- Weak GPU
Pros-
Just about everything not listed as con.
Cons-
No pricing or availability word yet !!!!!!!
Bezel size of top and bottom and thickness. Would have liked to have seen something pushing limits for the Nexus line.
Weak GPU - Scares the crap out of me in terms of GUI.
Not clear what the DAC is.
AMOLED will likely have bluish tints on white and push reds.
Vid clips on YT seem to show inconsistent framerate in HD videos. I hate choppiness and I get this weird feeling the UI and HD videos will simply not be as smooth as they should be.
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The outdated GPU: Did anyone prove that this GPU is outdated? In terms of sufficient performance for Android platform? Did anyone show that? I don't think so. And you don't too. I think people are just *****ing about it the same way I explained it for the CPU.
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No one has to 'prove' the gpu is outdated, the specs and how long its been around (since 2007) already prove that.
The gpu in the OMAP 4460 is definitely slower than the mali 400 in the exynos, as well as the A5 in the iPhone4S.
Id wager its on par, or maybe even slightly slower than the qualcomm in my tmobile galaxy SII.
Its not the end of the world, and i have no doubt the nexus is gonna be a powerful device, but its not Samsungs flagship.
Samsung is saving the 1.5ghz exynos and other goodies for the next round of battle against the iPhone5 it looks like
vash1053 said:
You got trolled, son.
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Lol, yea maybe. However, I would rather get trolled than leave a potential douchebag comment/post unaddressed.
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Well, i have to say that i love the Pure Google Experience that Nexus phones brings to customers, i feel really atracted by the fact that Nexus phones gets updates so frequently and mainly it's style. I followed closely all the Nexus Phones, Specially the last one, the Galaxy Nexus. Although i like it very much, The desing could be a bit more attractive, what disappointed to me is the hardware. 5 Megapixel Sensor in a TI OMAP 4460 Chipset? Are you Kidding me? What could be the reason, don't know, although it only carries 5mp camera the quality is very good and the 1080p 30fps video recording is good also, but i expected a better hardware, don't know in that moment what was better, anyways, the hardware could handle the 720p resolution just fine. What i'd like to see in the next Nexus phone is:
*Display: 4.7" with 720p Resolution, Super Amoled+ without Pentile.
*1.5 GB or 2GB of RAM
*TI OMAP5430 or 5432 Processor at 1.5 or 2.0 GHz 28nm Dual Core or Quad Core Processor with POWERVR™ SGX544-MPx
*8MP Camera (Its fine with 8mp but if they want to add 12mp or 20mp its welcome!) with 1080p 60fps Video recording.
*Better audio and Speaker hardware.
*2150mAh Battery
*Android 5.0 Jelly Bean.
*4G LTE Support
What do you expect from the next Nexus Phone?
You pretty much nailed the specs just need the shell, camera and battery to follow suit.
Razr Max battery life
Attractive build that feels premium
Better camera
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hotshotz said:
You pretty much nailed the specs just need the shell, camera and battery to follow suit.
Razr Max battery life
Attractive build that feels premium
Better camera
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Big phones needs Big Battery, Small things don't fit with them
Did you try Android Revolution HD 3.0.0 ROM?
They say it provides great battery life and peformance!
All I want in the next Nexus phone:
REMOVABLE STORAGE
I could care less about everything else.
Smokeey said:
All I want in the next Nexus phone:
REMOVABLE STORAGE
I could care less about everything else.
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I hope not!
Why want a 2150 battery? I want 3300 or more. If its in the maxx I wanna see it in a nexus.
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Smokeey said:
All I want in the next Nexus phone:
REMOVABLE STORAGE
I could care less about everything else.
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Why? Removable storage + partitions + UMS is a joke and annoying to deal with. Give me single storage with MTP any day. Just bump it up to 32gb/64gb this time around.
Gahh Its Lee said:
Why want a 2150 battery? I want 3300 or more. If its in the maxx I wanna see it in a nexus.
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Seriously. Especially considering the MAXX can do it now. All phones should have it by the end of the year.
As far as OP goes, I'm down with that except:
*we need a bigger battery than 2150mAh. Let's do 3000mAh+, we know its possible.
*we don't need a larger camera sensor, we need a better one. With good software. MP's don't really matter.
*why just LTE? nowhere else in the world is close to adopting LTE other than North America. Let's see 42mbps (why not 84mbps?) dual-carrier HSPA+, with a pentaband radio. We need that option too.
martonikaj said:
Why? Removable storage + partitions + UMS is a joke and annoying to deal with. Give me single storage with MTP any day. Just bump it up to 32gb/64gb this time around.
Seriously. Especially considering the MAXX can do it now. All phones should have it by the end of the year.
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Well actually the 1650mAh Battery in my galaxy s2 is fine, i finish the day with 50% battery.. I'm not a heavy user.. Think for me should be enough with 2150.. But, always more is welcome..! What do you all think about the processor? That TI OMAP 5430 Looks powerful and promising!
Next nexus
quad core
2gig ram
Higher then 720p resolution
Projector
Wireless USB
32gig internal storage
Apple-like announcement (i.e. availability date, participating carriers, pricing).
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Smokeey said:
All I want in the next Nexus phone:
REMOVABLE STORAGE
I could care less about everything else.
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Yeah. Removable storage with at least sata 1 speeds. And 64 gigs internal.
bow chicka wow wow.
Hmm.. The next nexus with all this specs will be really expensive, if last one when was released, the gsm unlocked was.. 700 u$d i think the next one will cost around 900 and 1200 u$d :S
maxiordoqui said:
Hmm.. The next nexus with all this specs will be really expensive, if last one when was released, the gsm unlocked was.. 700 u$d i think the next one will costo around 900 and 1200 u$d :S
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Except it'll be for sale in November, and all phones will have similar specs by that time.
The Nexus S was ~$600 with WVGA screen, 512mb RAM and 1ghz single core processor in 2010.
The Galaxy Nexus with 720p screen, 1gb RAM and 1.2ghz dual core processor wasn't $1000 in 2011...
The price will be about the same.
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Except it'll be for sale in November, and all phones will have similar specs by that time.
The Nexus S was ~$600 with WVGA screen, 512mb RAM and 1ghz single core processor in 2010.
The Galaxy Nexus with 720p screen, 1gb RAM and 1.2ghz dual core processor wasn't $1000 in 2011...
The price will be about the same.
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I Hope so..
The price of GN is going down, thats what i'm seeing on ebay..
Next Gnex
Made by HTC or Motorola (because there phones generally look better than Sammy)
2.5gb Ram
2ghz Quad core Snapdragon 6
4.65 screen is fine
1080p SAMOLED+ display
3 megapixel front facing camera (made by cannon)
8-10 megapixel camera (made by cannon)
64 gb internal memory
4GLTE/HSPDA+ pentaband
3500 math battery
MULTICOLOR notification light
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Addictedtothegreenguy said:
Next Gnex
Made by HTC or Motorola (because there phones generally look better than Sammy)
2.5gb Ram
2ghz Quad core Snapdragon 6
4.65 screen is fine
1080p SAMOLED+ display
3 megapixel front facing camera (made by cannon)
8-10 megapixel camera (made by cannon)
64 gb internal memory
4GLTE/HSPDA+ pentaband
3500 math battery
MULTICOLOR notification light
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Wow, Monster phone! Would be awesome! And expensive too
Addictedtothegreenguy said:
Next Gnex
Made by HTC or Motorola (because there phones generally look better than Sammy)
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I definitely disagree, but it would be logical for Google to use Motorola for the next Nexus.
vash1053 said:
I definitely disagree, but it would be logical for Google to use Motorola for the next Nexus.
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Don't know, i think Google bought motorola only for their patents, now they want to get rid of Motorola, so far we haven't seen nothing improved since google bought mobility....
Addictedtothegreenguy said:
Next Gnex
Made by HTC or Motorola (because there phones generally look better than Sammy)
2.5gb Ram
2ghz Quad core Snapdragon 6
4.65 screen is fine
1080p SAMOLED+ display
3 megapixel front facing camera (made by cannon)
8-10 megapixel camera (made by cannon)
64 gb internal memory
4GLTE/HSPDA+ pentaband
3500 math battery
MULTICOLOR notification light
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Keep dreaming lol that's way too much.
GoogleFan said:
Next nexus
quad core
2gig ram
Higher then 720p resolution
Projector
Wireless USB
32gig internal storage
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Why would you want a projector on your phone?
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You guys think the next Google phone will have 2GB of RAM? LG just announce their new phone and it has 2GB of ram 0_o man are they crazy? Lol
http://goo.gl/ANrQ8
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My galaxy note always consumes not less than 650MB even though I always kill game apps but I don't want to always kill apps. So yes, 2GB is a big plus and would be necessary especially for hardcore users.
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Yes most likely. games and apps will get better and need better hardware
Sure. Why not include it if the price of the phones will be the same price?
More ram is always good. I'd never encountered a situation where it isn't (desktop). Besides, ram is cheap and if it won't hurt the price I'd take it.
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I dont understand why...I barely use up 1GB and thats just becoming a Standard. I'd think the Dec. '13 Nexus might have it. Definitely not in 2012 though.
Depends on how hard core you're muti-tasking. I can easily hit the 2GB limit if I'm multitasking like crazy (i.e. swtiching between XDA, the web, another forum app, gmail, music, youtube, twitter, google currents, all within a matter of minutes).
Android is so seamless though that I rarely recognize when an app has been closed down.
But couldn't android be more optimize instead? I mean no even Google uses that much ram for their device( and I don't think they will this year) and what's up with quad core ? You think that's necessary ? I haven't rooted my galaxy nexus cause I will go crazy flashing rooms like before but stock feels fast without lag with a duel core
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Why does it matter if a phone has 2GB or 3GB of RAM?
Computers... who needs 16GB of RAM? who needs 32GB of RAM?
.... we can because we can. More RAM the better, especially if it's at the SAME PRICE. This is innovation. As Android advances, it'll definitely be using more RAM. So why complain if a manufacturer will give you more RAM?
Makes no sense. It doesn't matter if it's necessary or not. That's like saying, are quad cores necessary on phones / tablets? Not really, is it nice to have? hell yeah. This the basic fundamentals of innovation and competition.
Lol is it necessary? It isn't necessary, but god knows Android can use all the help it can get before any further optimization. Plus, what the poster said before me - why not?
Damn, what a drag it is to be able multitask more. Sucks having that choice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jzfni1oFNY
The voltage draw on 2gb of ram would be crazy. Battery life will suffer
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I say the next one will have 1.5GB, not more.
malibu_23 said:
The voltage draw on 2gb of ram would be crazy. Battery life will suffer
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Exactly why 1GB has been the standard...anything more and expect a huge impact on battery
Would it be nice to have a quad core phone with 2GB ram? Sure...would it be nice to have about 1 hour on screen time or less? I don't think so...
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Exactly why 1GB has been the standard...anything more and expect a huge impact on battery
Would it be nice to have a quad core phone with 2GB ram? Sure...would it be nice to have about 1 hour on screen time or less? I don't think so...
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That's like saying NVIDIA Tegra 3's Quad-Core will use more processing power.
It's obvious that mAh batteries are kind of outdated and there needs to be something done with battery to improve its usage.
the 2GB ram could be ondemand RAM or something of that sort. all im saying is that, hardware should not be limited due to battery usages. look at verizon, they're pumping out 4G LTE at the cost of battery life
EVERYONE!
Dalvik VM.
No need for 2GB of RAM. I totally forgot about that.
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2gb ram is itself not enough dude !!!!!!!!!!! and more over armv7 processors r not built for it yet........... any how if 2gb ram is allocated in the phone there must be compitent gigs ... to maintain it i guess 2.0ghz will be enough ..........its practically impossible till date to built phone with 2gb ram
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The voltage draw on 2gb of ram would be crazy. Battery life will suffer
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yes u r correct the battery will drain faster than even u charge it before hand
Smokeey said:
EVERYONE!
Dalvik VM.
No need for 2GB of RAM. I totally forgot about that.
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Virtual memory is not as efficient as physical memory (its slower).... but I do agree 2gb of ram is a little overboard... maybe for tablets with native ubuntu/linux booting, but not android.
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Necessary? No, probably not. Welcome? Yes.
Provided the battery life and device price don't suffer, the more ram the better.
"So much more ram for activities"
However I'm worried that if hardware innovation moves too fast then people won't know what's actually necessary to run Android with standard apps/games. If everyone is talking about 2GB of ram in Android devices people will think that 1GB or less won't be enough. Similar to how people started understating single core processors once dual core came out.
The us s3 is a dual core chip with only two threads available at one time at the most, same as our phone I presume. Which means you will probably are better off with the s2 until the s4 comes out.
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The us s3 is a dual core chip with only two threads available at one time at the most, same as our phone I presume. Which means you will probably are better off with the s2 until the s4 comes out.
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Seriously?
GSIII
GSII
Twice the RAM, can handle an SD card twice the size of the S2, the screen is almost a half inch larger, the screen resolution is higher by a long shot (1280x720 vs 800x400) and a larger battery. I'd say the dual-core processor is a non-issue. Aside from benchmarks, you won't be pushing either of these phones enough to truly take advantage of those two cores let alone two more.
Edit: Forgot to mention, the processor is the next gen Snap Dragon S4 whereas the GS2 has the Snap Dragon S3 processor. Newer tech, better use of what it has.
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Seriously?
GSIII
GSII
Twice the RAM, can handle an SD card twice the size of the S2, the screen is almost a half inch larger, the screen resolution is higher by a long shot (1280x720 vs 800x400) and a larger battery. I'd say the dual-core processor is a non-issue. Aside from benchmarks, you won't be pushing either of these phones enough to truly take advantage of those two cores let alone two more.
Edit: Forgot to mention, the processor is the next gen Snap Dragon S4 whereas the GS2 has the Snap Dragon S3 processor. Newer tech, better use of what it has.
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I agree.. I mean our phone kicks ass. But there is not doubt that the S3 is better
I like my Roms the way I like my women..... Clean and smooth
What's also great about the s3 is how they are identical wit all us variants. The body is the same with all s3 models. Which means development is merged with Sprint atnt n Verizon. Then you have accessories that fit all models which means more to pick from.just overall a better phone not just spec wise.
My wife still had the s2 which is why I'll be on both forums but I feel there is more potential with s3
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I got to play around with my coworker's S3 throughout the day and I cannot believe how smooth the UI is. I was amazed with everything. So many temptations...$349 GNex, SGS3, and of course the upcoming Nexus phone(s)...
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The s3 does have better hardware, but with the software available, you will notice very little, if any difference in anything you will use your phone for. You could have 8 cores, it's not going to make your phone do anything noticeably better than the s2 or gnex. I think until we get the software to utilize all the cores, the only things that really matter right now are better camera/battery/screen..
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Yea but two threads is two threads no matter which way you put it. Two core two thread processor.
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try being hard on the phone. Use WiFi to download a torrent, then use the phone for a call first, then try other things like a record call feature and then web browse and use audio streaming and see how it will work. It won't be very differently from the our s2.
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You forgot to mention the dual core s3 smokes every other phone in benchmarks, including the quad core s3.. The new cpu is a beast.
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I went to t-mobile today to see the phone in person.
First impressions were less than exciting. Even though the resolution is far better, its pixel arrangement makes it look grainy. Ours seems just as sharp from normal hand held position. Also, even though its much faster, ours keeps up with all the current software and games.
On our S2, GTA 3 runs smooth with resolution on high and draw distance about 1/3 (everything else maxed). The S3 could probably handle full resolution and distance, although thats quite a bit more screen space to fill...
I would appreciate a wider variety of accessories and rom options, however ill definatly wait until its cheaper, or see whats next.
Zomg you fools. The s4 krait CPU in the s3 demolishes EVERY SoC out except the quad core exynos. Stop comparing the s4 to the s3 in our phones just because its dual core. Put it this way. The s3 in our phone is the Intel core2duo. The s4 is the Intel core i3. Both dual core but the i3, because of revamped architecture and smaller manufacturing process completely destroys the core2duo. Actually it also out performs core2quads. Cores and MHz don't make the end product. Look up benchmarks and you'll see the s4 has almost twice the performance of any dual core SoC out. Even beats tegra 3...
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bkaltec said:
I went to t-mobile today to see the phone in person.
First impressions were less than exciting. Even though the resolution is far better, its pixel arrangement makes it look grainy. Ours seems just as sharp from normal hand held position. Also, even though its much faster, ours keeps up with all the current software and games.
On our S2, GTA 3 runs smooth with resolution on high and draw distance about 1/3 (everything else maxed). The S3 could probably handle full resolution and distance, although thats quite a bit more screen space to fill...
I would appreciate a wider variety of accessories and rom options, however ill definatly wait until its cheaper, or see whats next.
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The s3 has a PenTile display. Pentile = poop. And as far as the processor goes yes is very nice but I think that hardware has gotten to kind of a plateau in that even with the new quad cores out there the performance jump is minimal at best from ours. My Tegra 3 tablet runs ICS equally as well as my Snapdragon S3 and can't tell the difference.
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I think I will wait for the tmobile galaxy note instead
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The s3 has a PenTile display. Pentile = poop. And as far as the processor goes yes is very nice but I think that hardware has gotten to kind of a plateau in that even with the new quad cores out there the performance jump is minimal at best from ours. My Tegra 3 tablet runs ICS equally as well as my Snapdragon S3 and can't tell the difference.
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People go overboard with the pentile thing. My epic 4g had a pentile screen. I did notice a difference between that screen and this one but it isn't a deal breaker. A pentile screen at a 720p Res on a 5 inch screen wouldnt noticeable whatsoever. The difference was minimal at 480p. I doubt you'd be able to tell a difference at a high res like that.
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You forgot to mention the dual core s3 smokes every other phone in benchmarks, including the quad core s3.. The new cpu is a beast.
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Edit: Already saw benchmarks of both the international one and the u.s. version and exynos wins in benchmarks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=SSicyj9hbwc
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try being hard on the phone. Use WiFi to download a torrent, then use the phone for a call first, then try other things like a record call feature and then web browse and use audio streaming and see how it will work. It won't be very differently from the our s2.
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it won't be very different on the international S3 either because our OS doesn't even utilize all 4 cores correctly..... and wouldn't 2gb ram be better for multitasking given that the OS optimizes with the utilization of 2 cores.
It might eat up numbers and crunch in more numbers per second but it can't do more things at once than its supposed to. The Intel i3 is a dual core but it's limited to two threads I think and if that use the case do is the core duo. Even though numbers might be able to conceive at the right time if the processes were not stream independent, important things like talking recording downloading streaming and torrent cannot be done any better with a resume boost.
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guys, he;s not entirely wrong.. the s3 processor is only about 30% faster..and better phones are coming with better quad core processors(such as apq8064 with adreno 320, exynos 5250) which will all have native hspa+ and lte support..why opt for the us variant S3 is way beyond me..
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guys, he;s not entirely wrong.. the s3 processor is only about 30% faster..and better phones are coming with better quad core processors(such as apq8064 with adreno 320, exynos 5250) which will all have native hspa+ and lte support..why opt for the us variant S3 is way beyond me..
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people would want to pay another 600 even if it was just a 5% boost.
After the galaxy line I'm sticking with the nexus. This is wack to have such great hardware and outdated software with bloat
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I have been discussing the expectations of the next Nexus device with Qbking77 and other ACS members.
Have any of you heard any news or even rumors of the next Nexus device?
Also, what are your expectations of a new Nexus phone? Including:
-Screen specs
-Internal specs
-Etc;
Input would be GREATLY appreciated on this! Thanks guys!
I think is going to be another Samsung phone. That's what I read, that google had chosen them again.
I also heard that we were going to see 5 Nexus phones but I highly doubt it.
I will probably be a quadcore but i don't really see anything wrong if they go dual core, maybe same screen size or a small bump to 4.8 to be along the lines of the Galaxy S3. 2gb or Ram and improves screen, possibly still pentile technology, which i don't mind to be honest. A 8mp improved camera.
I hope they use this OMAP processor or Exynos. Something completely open source for easy hacks and tweaks.
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i havent heard new rumors for the next nexus apart from 5 nexuses rumors..
and my expectations for the next nexus following todays android phone footprint:
- made by samsung (again)
- 4.65 to 5 inch HD SAMOLED screen (with + maybe?)
- TI OMAP 5 processor
- 1 gb of memory..
- 16/32 gb internal storage (no external memory)
- 8 megapixel + FF camera
- curved glass screen
- notification light
- NFC
- possibly with android 5.0
and im hoping they will make only unlocked version..
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I also heard that we were going to see 5 Nexus phones but I highly doubt it.
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Well I know that Google said they we're releasing 5 "devices" which the first two were the Nexus 7 and that Q thing...
But yeah, I hope it is Samsung too. I hope to see a thinner device as well. I mean the Gnex is thin but nothing like the RAZR! My father has one and I can't believe how incredibly thin it is!
As far as the innards, your right... It's gotta be quad core...
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i havent heard new rumors for the next nexus apart from 5 nexuses rumors..
and my expectations for the next nexus following todays android phone footprint:
- made by samsung (again)
- 4.65 to 5 inch HD SAMOLED screen (with + maybe?)
- TI OMAP 5 processor
- 1 gb of memory..
- 16/32 gb internal storage (no external memory)
- 8 megapixel + FF camera
- curved glass screen
- notification light
- NFC
- possibly with android 5.0
and im hoping they will make only unlocked version..
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This seems the most logical assumption I've seen yet.
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I've stopped caring about bleeding edge and have started caring about what Google cares about for their Nexus devices. A collection of hardware and software that not only "just works" but does so while giving a fantastic, great performing, and stable user experience.
Love my Galaxy Nexus and when upgrade time comes I'll continue to buy whatever they have up their sleeve, regardless of who they choose to have manufacture it.
Google IMO knows their ****.
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This seems the most logical assumption I've seen yet.
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Hey as long as they make it Black or Gunmetal color and not "Pebble Blue" I'll take those specs!
Curved glass is a must though... I love it on this Gnex
I think it would be pretty awesome to see Google pair up with motorolas hardware that would make a pretty awsome phone in my opinion.
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I think it would be pretty awesome to see Google pair up with motorolas hardware that would make a pretty awsome phone in my opinion.
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Motorola RAZR thinness maybe... But knowing their reputation with Motoblur I doubt they would let Google get away with a device without it...
But YES the build quality of a Motorola would feel slightly better than the plasticity of the Nexus devices in the past...
Let's all cross our fingers! Lolz.
I enjoy the 4.65" screen but I think it's still pushing it. I sincerely hope it doesn't get any bigger than it already is, but I know plenty of people would beg to differ.
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I enjoy the 4.65" screen but I think it's still pushing it. I sincerely hope it doesn't get any bigger than it already is, but I know plenty of people would beg to differ.
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As long as the next one has softkey's I wouldn't mind a slightly larger screen due to the fact that the keys take up screen space...
But 5" would be WAY too much... I would never get a Galaxy Note for that reason...
A better battery it's all I want
I don't care if the screen gets larger as long as they go longer rather than wider again like they did with this one.
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I don't care if the screen gets larger as long as they go longer rather than wider again like they did with this one.
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+1.
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I love speculation threads. It will be made by any of these(I hope).
This my guess on how will it be:
Google nexus(unlikely but my preference)
720p slcd2/1080p IPS+
Dual-core OMAP5/ quad core s4
5" screen
2gb ram
3000mah battery
Samsung Nexus
720p SUPER AMOLED non pen tile
Dual core omap5/Dual core exynos 5250
4.8-5" screen
2gb ram
2300mah battery
Motorola Nexus
720 SLCD2
Dual core omap5
4.5-4.7" in screen(I'd prefer 5)
2gb ram
3500 man battery and best radio
Htc nexus
720p slcd2
Dual core/quad code s3
720p SLCD2 4.9" screen
2gb ram
1900 mah battery
Sony Nexus
720p Reality display
Dual core/quad core s2
4.7"slcd2
2gb ram
2100mah battery
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Gorjess said:
i havent heard new rumors for the next nexus apart from 5 nexuses rumors..
and my expectations for the next nexus following todays android phone footprint:
- made by samsung (again)
- 4.65 to 5 inch HD SAMOLED screen (with + maybe?)
- TI OMAP 5 processor
- 1 gb of memory..
- 16/32 gb internal storage (no external memory)
- 8 megapixel + FF camera
- curved glass screen
- notification light
- NFC
- possibly with android 5.0
and im hoping they will make only unlocked version..
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I say Google will put more ram like 2gn, to not be overshadowed by the s3 or iPhone 5. I also think a bigger screen, more memory(a lot of people have been complaining maybe they listen), and hopefully omap 5.
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Hopefully only GSM no fake Verizon/Sprint crap.
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Hopefully only GSM no fake Verizon/Sprint crap.
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What an odd thing for you to say. Just buy the gsm version.
My guess is that it will be similar to the gs3 but redesigned w/o the hardware button.
I also hope for a better screen, camera and noise cancellation
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Drzfr3shboialex said:
I say Google will put more ram like 2gn, to not be overshadowed by the s3 or iPhone 5. I also think a bigger screen, more memory(a lot of people have been complaining maybe they listen), and hopefully omap 5.
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not a single rom/apps harness the entire 1gb of memory until now, even most costum rom builders here are always keeping their rom memory friendly.. so really theres no point having over 2gb of memory beside spec sheet show-off..
also, smartphone screens caps at 5 inch max imo.. above that would be galaxy note territory.. and i dont think nexuses would compete with note..
Here's what I wish next nexus has:
4-4.6' super amoled HD/plus/super LCD.
latest TI omap/ other powerful processor
16/32 GB storage for international version!
8/12 MP + other hardware features/Low light..etc
1+ GB RAM
battery life Razor MAxx or S3. 3.8V battery
build quality like One X or Razor. as thin as S3/One X.
I wish there are many nexus devices with various screen size. For me 4 inch screen is the best size....