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System updates ?

Hey sorry if this was addressed already in another thread. Just picked up a One X yesterday. I've since unlocked bootloader and rooted phone. Just playing with stock rom for now before I jump into custom rom.
My question is, I keep getting notifications for system update available. Should I avoid these updates ? don't want to loose root and unlocked bootloader
Thanks!

Just do the update and then re-root - bootloader isn't touched once unlocked unless you manually lock it yourself

EddyOS said:
Just do the update and then re-root - bootloader isn't touched once unlocked unless you manually lock it yourself
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Thanks! That was fast

JPxM0Dz said:
Hey sorry if this was addressed already in another thread. Just picked up a One X yesterday. I've since unlocked bootloader and rooted phone. Just playing with stock rom for now before I jump into custom rom.
My question is, I keep getting notifications for system update available. Should I avoid these updates ? don't want to loose root and unlocked bootloader
Thanks!
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If you have already flashed a custom recovery, you will need to flash back the stock recovery to apply the update.

bobsie41 said:
If you have already flashed a custom recovery, you will need to flash back the stock recovery to apply the update.
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Yeah when I unlocked bootloader, I immediatley flashed cwm. Hmmm seems like alot of flashing back and forth for these updates.
Should have done all the updates first I guess
Maybe I'll just flash an already tweaked rom

When you update it updates your hboot as well as your rom. Its worth pointing out that if an s-off exploit comes out for an earlier version of the hboot you might not be able to downgrade. If you're not having specific problems such as screen flicker I would not update.
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h00py said:
When you update it updates your hboot as well as your rom. Its worth pointing out that if an s-off exploit comes out for an earlier version of the hboot you might not be able to downgrade. If you're not having specific problems such as screen flicker I would not update.
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Thanks for the info, no issues really

JPxM0Dz said:
Thanks for the info, no issues really
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If you do upgrade then given the number of problems people have it's also a good idea to make sure a RUU is available that matches the version you intend to upgrade to. That way if everything goes south you can flash the RUU and get it back up and running.

[NOOB ALERT] Guide or vid from stock to custom rom?

AS the title states I am a noob with the One X and want to install a JB rom but there seems so much to do
Any step by step guides from start to finish? Or even a quick 1,2,3,4 of what I need to do..
HBOOT first??
Then Unlock and root and recovery then rom??
Thanks!!!!

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Code:
fastboot oem readcid
adn paste here the result

will do m8 when I get chance.
Got to reinstall SDK etc..
Will bump it up, was kinda hoping there was a video floating about or something..

roy8846 said:
will do m8 when I get chance.
Got to reinstall ADK etc..
Will bump it up, was kinda hoping there was a video floating about or something..
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yes there is but first i need to know which is your CID, cause not every phone can flash JB for now

Htc_001
hboot-1.12.0000

roy8846 said:
Htc_001
hboot-1.12.0000
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in that case you can update to JB HBOOT 1.31

so unlock bootloader , then recovery and root (thats what I have done so far)
Then?
Thanks

roy8846 said:
so unlock bootloader , then recovery and root (thats what I have done so far)
Then?
Thanks
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that's not the passage to update the HBOOT to the 1.31 one... search

All sorted thanks. One last thing
I am on Ordroid latest, can you recommend a kernel or is stock one best??
I want good performance but decent battery (if thats possible!)

roy8846 said:
All sorted thanks. One last thing
I am on Ordroid latest, can you recommend a kernel or is stock one best??
I want good performance but decent battery (if thats possible!)
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there's no kenel for now because HTC hasn't release the kernel source yet, so stick with the stock one which is the best imo

[Q] [Q} Kernel problem

sorry for being noob. im just new in android dev. i have a problem about kernels. i have a european One X and every time i install different kernels like eternity project, ncx, faux it just stuck in HTC logo. i've tried too many roms and im really bored for this. my Hboot is 1.36 is it something about it or it's just not compatible? thanks!

ereneren564 said:
sorry for being noob. im just new in android dev. i have a problem about kernels. i have a european One X and every time i install different kernels like eternity project, ncx, faux it just stuck in HTC logo. i've tried too many roms and im really bored for this. my Hboot is 1.36 is it something about it or it's just not compatible? thanks!
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you need to revert back to stock there are no kernels that will work with jb yet mate as the source code hasn't been released. hopefully you have backed up? if so go to the cwm folder on your phone, get the boot.img, flash it through fastboot and restore your system

exocetdj said:
you need to revert back to stock there are no kernels that will work with jb yet mate as the source code hasn't been released. hopefully you have backed up? if so go to the cwm folder on your phone, get the boot.img, flash it through fastboot and restore your system
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thanks for the answer. i'm using now maximus v11 and im using the fastboot flash boot boot.img command and it works like stock. im trying to repacking it's kernel and eternity's now. it works now and it says "android is upgrading." i'll see what'll happen now

ereneren564 said:
thanks for the answer. i'm using now maximus v11 and im using the fastboot flash boot boot.img command and it works like stock. im trying to repacking it's kernel and eternity's now. it works now and it says "android is upgrading." i'll see what'll happen now
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ok there may be a few things that don't work but let me know how it goes will be handy for my post in the sig

exocetdj said:
ok there may be a few things that don't work but let me know how it goes will be handy for my post in the sig
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it's stuck at starting apps after upgrade. after reboot, it's stuck in one logo i'll have to rerom again.

lol thought it might mate, thanks for trying, check my sig when the JB kernels are out, i'l be in the maximus thread

exocetdj said:
lol thought it might mate, thanks for trying, check my sig when the JB kernels are out, i'l be in the maximus thread
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thanks mate! i've never seen a forum this helpful before and i really like your your signature so in theory, if i install a ics rom, can i use these kernels?

ereneren564 said:
thanks mate! i've never seen a forum this helpful before and i really like your your signature so in theory, if i install a ics rom, can i use these kernels?
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Thanks mate yep in theory but not sure how u revert back to ics from jb

You can flash an ics rom on the higher hboots, no problem (at least not with sense roms) and use the custom kernels too. If you want a fully stock ics rom you can check your cid and download a matching ics nandroid backup from the nandroid collection in the general forum (the thread from matt95)
Just restore it and you will have a custom "stock" rom on your higher Hboot.....

[Q] S-Off cm 11

Hello there,
I'm a flash junkie and recently updated my phone to CM11, coming from CM10.
In this process my phone went from S-Off to S-on. Is this always the case? And how can I fix it? Because I don't want to fastboot every time I flash a nightly. Thanks in advance!

liter1 said:
Hello there,
I'm a flash junkie and recently updated my phone to CM11, coming from CM10.
In this process my phone went from S-Off to S-on. Is this always the case? And how can I fix it? Because I don't want to fastboot every time I flash a nightly. Thanks in advance!
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It is imposible flashing ROM to make the device from S-OFF to S-ON. The rom don't have to do nothing with the HBOOT and can't change the security flag on ONE X international.

Thant said:
It is imposible flashing ROM to make the device from S-OFF to S-ON. The rom don't have to do nothing with the HBOOT and can't change the security flag on ONE X international.
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Let's hope he can tell us how to get S-OFF in the first place
If he can, I will personally flash as many roms as needed to investigate this unexpected S-ON behaviour.
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I don't think it was s-off in the first place. In my experiences flashing roms and even RUU's has never lead to changing s-on/off status !

Mr Hofs said:
I don't think it was s-off in the first place. In my experiences flashing roms and even RUU's has never lead to changing s-on/off status !
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Maybe I had Sarcasm-ON

donkyshot said:
Maybe I had Sarcasm-ON
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I know i was just thinking the OP may have made a small read error somewhere......

donkyshot said:
Maybe I had Sarcasm-ON
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Sarcasm-ON, hilarious! LOL. How is it possible that on cm10 i could flash roms via cmupdater without flashing the boot.img? Now on cm11 my phone will not start up without the boot.img....
And did someone follow RumRummer tutorial for S-Off? Successfully?
Thanks in advance!

Because cm 11 is kitkat and cm 10 is not. Not all updates require a new boot.img.
If you go to a "new" rom you need to flash the boot.img. if a rom gets an update and it's purely a small software update it may not require a boot.img update.
Cm11 is completely different from cm10.
And rumrunner does not work.

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Mr Hofs said:
Because cm 11 is kitkat and cm 10 is not. Not all updates require a new boot.img.
If you go to a "new" rom you need to flash the boot.img. if a rom gets an update and it's purely a small software update it may not require a boot.img update.
Cm11 is completely different from cm10.
And rumrunner does not work.
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Mr Hofs, thank you for your answer. It's completely clear now! It's ridiculous htc stops us getting control of the phone...

Firmware and ROM?

i stumble upon a thread that S-off is really needed to have proper and compatible FW and ROM. Question is, isnt it the FW is packed with the ROM? My M8 is rooted, bootloader open but still S-Off (IC ROM and Elemental KERNEL). Please enlighten me.
PS: i read about this whole thing coz the boot time of my phone is just too long, i asked in one of the thread here; someone said that its because of this FW and ROM thingy that might be incompatible...
Sorry if i asked too much. Thanks anyway...

knights.JayTana said:
Question is, isnt it the FW is packed with the ROM?
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No. Firmware is not packed with custom ROMs. When talking about updating the firmware, we are referring to the hboot, radio, and other modules (WiFi, Bluetooth, etc.). Flashing a ROM doesn't touch those firmware partitions. And in fact the radio and hboot partitions can not be modified with S-on. Which is why s-off is required to update the firmware manually.
Yes, long boot time is a known symptom of flashing a 2.x based custom ROM, while having outdated 1.x based firmware on the phone. So you need to s-off and update the firmware manually.
Alternately, you can return to stock ROM and recovery, and install your latest official OTA, which will update the firmware.

knights.JayTana said:
i stumble upon a thread that S-off is really needed to have proper and compatible FW and ROM. Question is, isnt it the FW is packed with the ROM? My M8 is rooted, bootloader open but still S-Off (IC ROM and Elemental KERNEL). Please enlighten me.
PS: i read about this whole thing coz the boot time of my phone is just too long, i asked in one of the thread here; someone said that its because of this FW and ROM thingy that might be incompatible...
Sorry if i asked too much. Thanks anyway...
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Your firmware is separate from the ROM you run, it runs between the ROM and the hardware if you like. Its the base software that is updated by RUU or an OTA, but a ROM won't update it. Hence why devs recommend to update firmware to the latest as their ROM is based on the latest sources, but it doesnt update it.

redpoint73 said:
No. Firmware is not packed with custom ROMs. When talking about updating the firmware, we are referring to the hboot, radio, and other modules (WiFi, Bluetooth, etc.). Flashing a ROM doesn't touch those firmware partitions. And in fact the radio and hboot partitions can not be modified with S-on. Which is why s-off is required to update the firmware manually.
Yes, long boot time is a known symptom of flashing a 2.x based custom ROM, while having outdated 1.x based firmware on the phone. So you need to s-off and update the firmware manually.
Alternately, you can return to stock ROM and recovery, and install your latest official OTA, which will update the firmware.
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gsmyth said:
Your firmware is separate from the ROM you run, it runs between the ROM and the hardware if you like. Its the base software that is updated by RUU or an OTA, but a ROM won't update it. Hence why devs recommend to update firmware to the latest as their ROM is based on the latest sources, but it doesnt update it.
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Thanks a lot to both of you guys. Do i need stock RUU on my phone other than stock recovery? How about the bootloader? Another thing is, cant seem to open/enter Firewater website? been trying for 3 days now, no luck...

knights.JayTana said:
Thanks a lot to both of you guys. Do i need stock RUU on my phone other than stock recovery? How about the bootloader? Another thing is, cant seem to open/enter Firewater website? been trying for 3 days now, no luck...
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Just tried the firewater site and its working ok for me, was able to download the firewater tool also.

Working now, Thanks a lot... Damn this browser... hehehehe

knights.JayTana said:
Do i need stock RUU on my phone other than stock recovery? How about the bootloader? Another thing is, cant seem to open/enter Firewater website? been trying for 3 days now, no luck...
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You probably won't find an RUU for your version, as I believe only the US versions have RUU. Unfortunate, as RUU would be another way update you to the 2.x firmware, and would be a really easy way to do so.
You just need stock ROM and recovery, for purpose of accepting OTAs. You should be able to get both of those here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
You shouldn't have to do anything with bootloader. Since you are still S-on, there is no way you would have been able to modify bootloader, and therefore it is still stock.
Firewater website works fine for me. In fact, it loads almost instantly. Do you have any local firewalls or anything else that might be blocking the website? Although also be aware that firewater won't work on most recent M8's (and you may need to use sunshine if you want s-off). Although it doesn't hurt to try firewater.

???? does this mean i cant no longer use firewater on my m8?

knights.JayTana said:
???? does this mean i cant no longer use firewater on my m8?
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Most likely if yu get that message, than NO firewater won't work.
Although some custom ROMs (not sure about InserCoin) and kernels might interfere with firewater.
What hboot and radio baseband?

ohhh no, im with elementalX Kernel. Will try my luck with Stock kernel. Ill be back here later, rebooting my phone takes ages

Still no luck. hahahahahahaha!!! Damn... Tried the Sunshine but will also not work without stock ROM and Kernel. hahahahaahha...

knights.JayTana said:
Tried the Sunshine but will also not work without stock ROM and Kernel. hahahahaahha...
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I've read that Maximum ROM works with Sunshine.
EDIT: Meant "Maximus". Keep typing that name wrong. My brain keeps wanting to autocorrect!
Although you might need to find an older build of Maximus. I see that as of last night, it was just updated to Android 4.4.4! So bets are off about Sunshine working with Maximus, until its reported to work with the new build.

redpoint73 said:
I've read that Maximum ROM works with Sunshine.
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Here's the HBOOT info. Please help me guys

knights.JayTana said:
Here's the HBOOT info. Please help me guys
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3.16 may or may not work with firewater. If you have tried with stock ROM and kernel, and get the "whelp" message, than you are out of luck.
Sunshine should work, again I'd try with stock ROM and kernel.

I made it with Sunshine... heheheehhe... Thanks a lot guys...