Hello there,
I'm a flash junkie and recently updated my phone to CM11, coming from CM10.
In this process my phone went from S-Off to S-on. Is this always the case? And how can I fix it? Because I don't want to fastboot every time I flash a nightly. Thanks in advance!
liter1 said:
Hello there,
I'm a flash junkie and recently updated my phone to CM11, coming from CM10.
In this process my phone went from S-Off to S-on. Is this always the case? And how can I fix it? Because I don't want to fastboot every time I flash a nightly. Thanks in advance!
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It is imposible flashing ROM to make the device from S-OFF to S-ON. The rom don't have to do nothing with the HBOOT and can't change the security flag on ONE X international.
Thant said:
It is imposible flashing ROM to make the device from S-OFF to S-ON. The rom don't have to do nothing with the HBOOT and can't change the security flag on ONE X international.
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Let's hope he can tell us how to get S-OFF in the first place
If he can, I will personally flash as many roms as needed to investigate this unexpected S-ON behaviour.
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I don't think it was s-off in the first place. In my experiences flashing roms and even RUU's has never lead to changing s-on/off status !
Mr Hofs said:
I don't think it was s-off in the first place. In my experiences flashing roms and even RUU's has never lead to changing s-on/off status !
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Maybe I had Sarcasm-ON
donkyshot said:
Maybe I had Sarcasm-ON
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I know i was just thinking the OP may have made a small read error somewhere......
donkyshot said:
Maybe I had Sarcasm-ON
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Sarcasm-ON, hilarious! LOL. How is it possible that on cm10 i could flash roms via cmupdater without flashing the boot.img? Now on cm11 my phone will not start up without the boot.img....
And did someone follow RumRummer tutorial for S-Off? Successfully?
Thanks in advance!
Because cm 11 is kitkat and cm 10 is not. Not all updates require a new boot.img.
If you go to a "new" rom you need to flash the boot.img. if a rom gets an update and it's purely a small software update it may not require a boot.img update.
Cm11 is completely different from cm10.
And rumrunner does not work.
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Mr Hofs said:
Because cm 11 is kitkat and cm 10 is not. Not all updates require a new boot.img.
If you go to a "new" rom you need to flash the boot.img. if a rom gets an update and it's purely a small software update it may not require a boot.img update.
Cm11 is completely different from cm10.
And rumrunner does not work.
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Mr Hofs, thank you for your answer. It's completely clear now! It's ridiculous htc stops us getting control of the phone...
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Oh my i just found that http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...source-code-att-variant-conspicuously-absent/
Im sure the Dev's can do a lot now
Skolotaie said:
Oh my i just found that http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...source-code-att-variant-conspicuously-absent/
Im sure the Dev's can do a lot now
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1639649
someone already beat you to it buddy
We have more than one thread for a lot here. It doesn't really matter any more. I like this one so I will say something. Nobody can use anything until s-off so don't get too excited.
Oh sorry,i forgot totally the S-Off Problem >..<
And i didnt found the other Thread Who tells that the Source is out.
But isnt it Possible to Flash a Kernel trough Fastbootmode?
I did that Yesterday because i had a Issue where my Cpu wont go over 1000Mhz xD
brent8577 said:
Nobody can use anything until s-off so don't get too excited.
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Why not? We can continue flashing kernel in boot.img via fastboot in the interim.
Flashed just fine last night..... You don't need s-off to change a kernel
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NoobTerminator said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1639649
someone already beat you to it buddy
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Lol, and I beat him to that one, so this is the 3rd thread about the Kernel source.
hopscotchjunkie said:
Why not? We can continue flashing kernel in boot.img via fastboot in the interim.
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Say I flashed a kernel without s-off and i'm on 1.28. The 1.29 upgrade gets available for my phone, can i upgrade my phone to 1.29 normally via OTA or do i have to go back to stock etc?
shadehh said:
Say I flashed a kernel without s-off and i'm on 1.28. The 1.29 upgrade gets available for my phone, can i upgrade my phone to 1.29 normally via OTA or do i have to go back to stock etc?
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OTAs contain only files needed to upgrade one stock ROM to another stock ROM, so you will definitely need to re-flash the stock rom. Or, wait for your custom ROM to be re-based to 1.29.
i just got my new one X 16gb the one with quad core
i have hboot 1.12
cid htc_001
android 4.0.4
htc sense 4.1
and no jb update until now
i want to unlock bootlocker and root the device my question is , i have to do something else first ?
thanks
Backup data if you want.
And think twice do you really want to void your warranty.
vasilisxxx said:
i just got my new one X 16gb the one with quad core
i have hboot 1.12
cid htc_001
android 4.0.4
htc sense 4.1
and no jb update until now
i want to unlock bootlocker and root the device my question is , i have to do something else first ?
thanks
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also befor you unlock boot and root it you may want to download the latest rru from htcruu for your cid which will give you latest hboot and save you the time in unlocking bootloader twice if you want to use a jellybean rom
this is the ruu for your cid
boroboy69r said:
also befor you unlock boot and root it you may want to download the latest rru from htcruu for your cid which will give you latest hboot and save you the time in unlocking bootloader twice if you want to use a jellybean rom
this is the ruu for your cid
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what is this? wich one i need to download and how to flash it on my one x it is safe ?
sorry noob here
vasilisxxx said:
what is this?
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If you only want to root you can ignore this.
TToivanen said:
If you only want to root you can ignore this.
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i want to flash cm10 what i must do ?
vasilisxxx said:
i want to flash cm10 what i must do ?
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You can root and flash CM10 on your existing hboot also. but updating your hboot is recomended as with that youll be able to flash CM10 as well as the newer ROMS which are being developed on android 4.2.
here is a noob friendly tool that will help you to flash the new firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1924003
you can proceed with the rooting pocess then.
anks257 said:
You can root and flash CM10 on your existing hboot also. but updating your hboot is recomended as with that youll be able to flash CM10 as well as the newer ROMS which are being developed on android 4.2.
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In fact, he wont be able to use gps on cm10 with the new hboot.
@vasilisxxx Hit me up via PM if you want to be instructed installing cm10. :good:
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In fact, he wont be able to use gps on cm10 with the new hboot.
@vasilisxxx Hit me up via PM if you want to be instructed installing cm10. :good:
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oh okay.. i didnt use CM10 much after updating to new hboot, so dont know about the issue!
I tried flashing a PAC Man ROM v19.3[Stable]. And my phone continues to reboot in the setup screen.
This is what I did:
1 Flashed boot.img in fastboot
2 Wiped System
3 Factory Reset
4 Wiped Cache
5 Wiped Dalvik Cache
6 Rebooted
It still continues to reboot during setup and I have tried several versions of the PAC man ROM now. Im not sure what I should do now because other people seem to not have this problem.
R: [Q] PrimoC 4.2.2 PAC-Man ROM keeps rebooting
Your radio is too high, you need to downgrade it by doing the RUU
But just to be sure try another rom first, if it doesn't boot you need to RUU
mr_nooby said:
Your radio is too high, you need to downgrade it by doing the RUU
But just to be sure try another rom first, if it doesn't boot you need to RUU
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Thanks for the reply, just to confirm my baseband version is 1.00.00.0928, do I need to downgrade to 1.00.00.521_2?
R: [Q] PrimoC 4.2.2 PAC-Man ROM keeps rebooting
I don't know about the versions. Find the RUU for your carrier and do it, it will downgrade your radio to a compatible version with the roms here
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I don't know about the versions. Find the RUU for your carrier and do it, it will downgrade your radio to a compatible version with the roms here
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I found an RUU for it, do I just run the .exe to downgrade? I keep seeing something about S-Off but I am not sure if its necessary for this phone
-thanks for the help
iOSecure said:
I found an RUU for it, do I just run the .exe to downgrade? I keep seeing something about S-Off but I am not sure if its necessary for this phone
-thanks for the help
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You actually don't need to... head over to my thread (it's the one stickied at the top of this forum) and read through until you find the bit about simon's kernel that fixes the issue.
Make sure you ft flash the stock recovery before ruu. Look for how to do that first. It may be in Waldo's sticky..... I am on mobile
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mr_nooby said:
Your radio is too high, you need to downgrade it by doing the RUU
But just to be sure try another rom first, if it doesn't boot you need to RUU
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i'm having the same problem but i CAN boot other roms, how do i fix it
hi guys
im having problems in flashing many roms
these are some information about my phone
Build: 3.14.401.31
Hboot: 1.36.000
CID: HTC_101
RECOVERY : TWRP v.2
i was able to flash roms as Android revolution, viper, blade, ordroid
but i failed with these roms
Sky Dragon v.16.2 Ultimate - phone restarts repeatedly
airplane mode it's in "turning off" so there is no signal on:
MIUI; Orio; Insertcoin
force close of android process:
Sentinel Rom; CyanogenMod; Ice cold jelly; Slim beam; Nik Project
Paranoid Android - phone stucks on boot screen
those roms should work on my phone as hboot version is supported. Why all these problems?
Is your install procedures correct.
Flash the boot.img, make a FULL wipe and install the rom.....i know its basic but safe to ask first
Mr Hofs said:
Is your install procedures correct.
Flash the boot.img, make a FULL wipe and install the rom.....i know its basic but safe to ask first
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yes, i always use these procedures.
I had a desire hd and, because of the s-off, things were much practical. Thought i was ignoring checking something important, but wasn't able to understand what..
ps. i apologize for my bad english
Can't think of the missing link yet. I know that the miui roms often needs a different boot.img to boot correctly. The others should easily work.....
Did you checked the MD5 sums from the roms that didn't boot ?
yes, for some of them i checked.
Tried changing even the recovery but it didn't work. Actually i have this problems since i unlocked the phone (december). But a the time i read that aosp roms wasn't compatible with the new hboot versions, so i never saw this as a real problem untill a few weeks ago..
There is an hboot update to 1.39 maybe that will help on the errors
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There is an hboot update to 1.39 maybe that will help on the errors
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mmm...to i need to relock the phone to update the hboot?
kaosone26 said:
mmm...to i need to relock the phone to update the hboot?
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If you can revert to stock.... No
Mr Hofs said:
If you can revert to stock.... No
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ok...thank you very much, i'll try
kaosone26 said:
ok...thank you very much, i'll try
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Don't forget to flash the stock recovery back too
unfortunately, it didn't work..
kaosone26 said:
unfortunately, it didn't work..
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What is not working ? Give me more info
just tried to flash a few aosp roms but, when they boot, it repeatedly says process com.android.phone force close. Instead Paranoidandroid remain stuck on the boot screen
basically the same problems that i had with hboot 1.36
Probably a Rom issue i guess !
I don't know Hofs, it's very strange. We're talking about different roms. As far as i searched i found a very little number of persons with some of those issues and they were able to solve the problem just trying to reflash the roms (maybe because their problem was just a bad download).
Downloading another rom from the list of the not working ones, let's hope it works
Edit. Skydragon doesn't work either
i apologize for the double post
it is normal that after giving the command "fastboot boot boot.img" the device automatically restarts?
Yes because its
Fastboot flash boot boot.img
Mr Hofs said:
Yes because its
Fastboot flash boot boot.img
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oh dear, i forgot to type "flash"...now it works! thank you very much hofs, i own you a favour
kaosone26 said:
oh dear, i forgot to type "flash"...now it works! thank you very much hofs, i own you a favour
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i stumble upon a thread that S-off is really needed to have proper and compatible FW and ROM. Question is, isnt it the FW is packed with the ROM? My M8 is rooted, bootloader open but still S-Off (IC ROM and Elemental KERNEL). Please enlighten me.
PS: i read about this whole thing coz the boot time of my phone is just too long, i asked in one of the thread here; someone said that its because of this FW and ROM thingy that might be incompatible...
Sorry if i asked too much. Thanks anyway...
knights.JayTana said:
Question is, isnt it the FW is packed with the ROM?
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No. Firmware is not packed with custom ROMs. When talking about updating the firmware, we are referring to the hboot, radio, and other modules (WiFi, Bluetooth, etc.). Flashing a ROM doesn't touch those firmware partitions. And in fact the radio and hboot partitions can not be modified with S-on. Which is why s-off is required to update the firmware manually.
Yes, long boot time is a known symptom of flashing a 2.x based custom ROM, while having outdated 1.x based firmware on the phone. So you need to s-off and update the firmware manually.
Alternately, you can return to stock ROM and recovery, and install your latest official OTA, which will update the firmware.
knights.JayTana said:
i stumble upon a thread that S-off is really needed to have proper and compatible FW and ROM. Question is, isnt it the FW is packed with the ROM? My M8 is rooted, bootloader open but still S-Off (IC ROM and Elemental KERNEL). Please enlighten me.
PS: i read about this whole thing coz the boot time of my phone is just too long, i asked in one of the thread here; someone said that its because of this FW and ROM thingy that might be incompatible...
Sorry if i asked too much. Thanks anyway...
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Your firmware is separate from the ROM you run, it runs between the ROM and the hardware if you like. Its the base software that is updated by RUU or an OTA, but a ROM won't update it. Hence why devs recommend to update firmware to the latest as their ROM is based on the latest sources, but it doesnt update it.
redpoint73 said:
No. Firmware is not packed with custom ROMs. When talking about updating the firmware, we are referring to the hboot, radio, and other modules (WiFi, Bluetooth, etc.). Flashing a ROM doesn't touch those firmware partitions. And in fact the radio and hboot partitions can not be modified with S-on. Which is why s-off is required to update the firmware manually.
Yes, long boot time is a known symptom of flashing a 2.x based custom ROM, while having outdated 1.x based firmware on the phone. So you need to s-off and update the firmware manually.
Alternately, you can return to stock ROM and recovery, and install your latest official OTA, which will update the firmware.
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gsmyth said:
Your firmware is separate from the ROM you run, it runs between the ROM and the hardware if you like. Its the base software that is updated by RUU or an OTA, but a ROM won't update it. Hence why devs recommend to update firmware to the latest as their ROM is based on the latest sources, but it doesnt update it.
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Thanks a lot to both of you guys. Do i need stock RUU on my phone other than stock recovery? How about the bootloader? Another thing is, cant seem to open/enter Firewater website? been trying for 3 days now, no luck...
knights.JayTana said:
Thanks a lot to both of you guys. Do i need stock RUU on my phone other than stock recovery? How about the bootloader? Another thing is, cant seem to open/enter Firewater website? been trying for 3 days now, no luck...
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Just tried the firewater site and its working ok for me, was able to download the firewater tool also.
Working now, Thanks a lot... Damn this browser... hehehehe
knights.JayTana said:
Do i need stock RUU on my phone other than stock recovery? How about the bootloader? Another thing is, cant seem to open/enter Firewater website? been trying for 3 days now, no luck...
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You probably won't find an RUU for your version, as I believe only the US versions have RUU. Unfortunate, as RUU would be another way update you to the 2.x firmware, and would be a really easy way to do so.
You just need stock ROM and recovery, for purpose of accepting OTAs. You should be able to get both of those here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
You shouldn't have to do anything with bootloader. Since you are still S-on, there is no way you would have been able to modify bootloader, and therefore it is still stock.
Firewater website works fine for me. In fact, it loads almost instantly. Do you have any local firewalls or anything else that might be blocking the website? Although also be aware that firewater won't work on most recent M8's (and you may need to use sunshine if you want s-off). Although it doesn't hurt to try firewater.
???? does this mean i cant no longer use firewater on my m8?
knights.JayTana said:
???? does this mean i cant no longer use firewater on my m8?
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Most likely if yu get that message, than NO firewater won't work.
Although some custom ROMs (not sure about InserCoin) and kernels might interfere with firewater.
What hboot and radio baseband?
ohhh no, im with elementalX Kernel. Will try my luck with Stock kernel. Ill be back here later, rebooting my phone takes ages
Still no luck. hahahahahahaha!!! Damn... Tried the Sunshine but will also not work without stock ROM and Kernel. hahahahaahha...
knights.JayTana said:
Tried the Sunshine but will also not work without stock ROM and Kernel. hahahahaahha...
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I've read that Maximum ROM works with Sunshine.
EDIT: Meant "Maximus". Keep typing that name wrong. My brain keeps wanting to autocorrect!
Although you might need to find an older build of Maximus. I see that as of last night, it was just updated to Android 4.4.4! So bets are off about Sunshine working with Maximus, until its reported to work with the new build.
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I've read that Maximum ROM works with Sunshine.
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Here's the HBOOT info. Please help me guys
knights.JayTana said:
Here's the HBOOT info. Please help me guys
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3.16 may or may not work with firewater. If you have tried with stock ROM and kernel, and get the "whelp" message, than you are out of luck.
Sunshine should work, again I'd try with stock ROM and kernel.
I made it with Sunshine... heheheehhe... Thanks a lot guys...