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As many of the launch phones are fairly similar in terms of specs, I am wondering if battery life might actually be a larger factor in my decision to buy a WP7 device.
For example, my first instinct would be the HD7, however with the largest screen will it likely eat through the battery at a rate of knots, or is the lack of true multitasking and microsofts minimun specifications likely to help ensure the battery life exceeds many existing smart phones, such as my Nexus one (which usually only lasts a day for me).
I tend to take spec sheets with a pinch of salt, as they often don't match real world experiences, but would love to hear from any one that has had a chance to test a WP7 device themselves.
My rule of thumb is that the larger the screen, the more battery it uses since the display it's the primary drain.
However, since the HD7 is the thinnest launch phone, it could be a good candidate for an extended battery that wouldn't make it too bulky for everyday use.
The problem there, is a WP7 to me is desireable specifically because of the UI and general asthetics over my existing Android (which I feel is actually superior to WP7 in terms of functionality). Clamping a giant battery to the back would ruin that effect for me.
I'm struggling to find much comparitive information on each WP7 battery size. Any else able to find a list? I've seen a few websites that I would not normally trust indicate the HD7 only has a 1200mAh battery, which is one of the smallest of the WP7s. Surely that would be a bit of a weak chinc in the HD7s armour?
The hd7 has a smaller bathe then the Mozart, from what I see the omnia7 is the best as its soles screen and the biggest battery I have seen so far
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/presskits/windowsphone/glance.aspx has the battery life for each phone listed.
RustyGrom said:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/presskits/windowsphone/glance.aspx has the battery life for each phone listed.
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Dell Venue pro is 3 hours or up to 7 hours talk time?
They have 2 different info from microsoft websites.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/buy/7/phones.aspx#detail=1568
The same for Samsung Focus. Because of its thin profile I am willing to believe 3 hrs of talk time over 7, which seems exaggerated.
Focus/Omnia7 are listed as 3hrs talk time? Sounds strange. I heard it had a 1500 mAh battery - coupled with the more efficient S-AMOLED screen it should have more...
HTC 7 Trophy - has a Removable and Rechargeable Lithium ion or Lithium-polymer battery, 1300 mAh.
HTC 7 Surround - has a Removable and Rechargeable Lithium ion or Lithium-polymer battery, 1230 mAh.
HTC 7 Mozart - has a Removable and Rechargeable Lithium ion or Lithium-polymer battery, 1300 mAh.
HTC HD7 has a - Removable and Rechargeable Lithium ion or Lithium-polymer battery, 1230 mAh. Small battery for such a large screen.
Samsung Omnia 7 / Samsung Focus Has a Li-ion, a 1500 mAh. (Only 8GB of storage)
Dell Venue Pro is listed as up to 7hrs talk time / 14 days standby. It's got a decent size battery and the AMOLED screen which likely helps cut down on the power consumption.
I'd wager a guess that the S-AMOLED and AMOLED phones will have the longest battery lives, so long as the OEMs don't gimp the battery inside.
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The same for Samsung Focus. Because of its thin profile I am willing to believe 3 hrs of talk time over 7, which seems exaggerated.
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Samsung's site says:
Up to 300 Hours Standby Time
Up to 6.5 Hours Talk Time
Just for reference, for the iPhone4 Apple claims:
Talk time:
Up to 7 hours on 3G
Up to 14 hours on 2G
Standby time: Up to 300 hours
The Samsungs, when using dark themes. 1500mah battery with AMOLED will last you the longest. LG with 1500mah when using light themes. Power draw of the rest of the electronics should be more or less the same, since the platforms are almost identical.
Was about to say something similar. AMOLED should be really good with WP7 as it's quite a dark OS. Those screens take a tiny amount of power to display black (and loads to display white). Combined with a 1500mAh battery and you'd expect the Samsung to do the best.
From what I can see the LG phones have the longest talk time by far (10hrs).
I also thought the AMOLED screens were supposed to be great on power consumption but Im not so sure that works in real life...the samsung phones that I can see are all rated for 3 hours which is really too little...
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From what I can see the LG phones have the longest talk time by far (10hrs).
I also thought the AMOLED screens were supposed to be great on power consumption but Im not so sure that works in real life...the samsung phones that I can see are all rated for 3 hours which is really too little...
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Omnia 7 battery life...
Talk time: 2G / 520Min, 3G / 370Min
Standby: 2G / 390hrs, 3G / 330hrs
http://www.samsung.com/uk/news/newsRead.do?news_seq=20829&gltype=localnews
I was thinking the Omnia 7 was going to be the phone to get with its 4 inch Super Amoled screen and 1500 mAh battery, But 8GB memory is just to small.
Why no 16GB version Samsung???
Well, I have never had a problem with battery life, on my Vibrant I had a pretty decent run with some sporadic use. With my G2 I had an alright run, but it had an underclocked processor so most likely that helped with the battery life... I don't know, Android has "multi-tasking" and that can hog up the battery a lot. So maybe it might hold up alright on the HD7, regardless I always carry a USB cable in my car, and a car USB adapter, just in case.
RustyGrom said:
Omnia 7 battery life...
Talk time: 2G / 520Min, 3G / 370Min
Standby: 2G / 390hrs, 3G / 330hrs
http://www.samsung.com/uk/news/newsRead.do?news_seq=20829&gltype=localnews
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You make a good point...2G vs 3G...on MS site they show the 3G phone times for Samsung it seems but I wonder where the 10 hours come from for the LG...2G or 3G...believe it or not 6 hours(370min) is not enough for me...I know that is best case and with other things running on a smartphone it will be more like 4-5 hours...
i like win 7
Samsung's phone will most likely last the longest as it has quite a good battery and the screen uses less power than other screens.
I went to my local VZW Corporate store to pick up an extended battery. To my surprise, they were sold out. I inquired about the inductive charging back, the salesman thought it was in but no dice. He tried selling me a quick charge pack but I turned him down.
I was just surprised to hear that the battery was sold out and maybe that's a bad thing. It tells you just how demanding this phone is of it's battery. I'm currently running BAMF Remix with IMO's lean kernel and it does well. I average around 5 hours awake time and 14 -15 hours off the charger.
I also work in an office where my signal is -65 to -75db. Today I was out of the office bringing up a remote site on a point-to-point connection and my battery went to hell in a hand-basket filled with lead. I was only 11 hours off the charger and 3 hours awake when the battery hit 5%.
Anyway, I ended up going home and ordering it online. This perplexes me because the VZW sales agent tried to order one for me but said there were none in stock. Maybe corporate stores have a different pool to order from? I dunno but I find it silly that I can order an item with overnight shipping online yet they can't do the same thing in store.
My battery has shipped, hopefully I'll see it tomorrow!
i too have a local verizon store also sold out of them.
but idk what to choose to be honest.
ive seen some that are only 200mAh more and some that are 2750mAh (needs the extended back door)
i know the 2750mAh will be more than the 1600mAh, but what i want to know is how much will the simple 1600mAh battery boost the usage hours?
I love the form factor of the TBolt and was thinking of ordering a slim extended battery. I recently received the 2750mah battery from VZW, had to order on line, and I am making it through a full day with no problem. It doesn't stick out that bad, but it is noticeable. I am surprised that VZW has not created a slim extended battery. I think they know that all 4g phones will use a lot of battery regardless of how big the battery is. On my DX with the 1840mah extended battery and 3g service I could go 1 1/2 with no problem. Hopefully future updates will fix the battery issues.
IMO, get the extended battery from VZW. At least you will not have to worry about your battery dieing or toggling from 3g-4g.
I believe that the Seidio 1600 is = TBolt stock battery. There are different ways of rating batterires and Seidio tends to go with the theoretical maximum where as HTC offers a more realistic and accurate reading.
There will be a handful of lucky people who get batteries that consistently hold 1600mAh but there's also people who will see no difference and some who will see worse.
Get the HTC 2750 and be done with it.
Even if the ratings were pure fact, a 1600mAh battery is only 14% more than the stock one, your 11 hour day would have extended to only 12.5 hours, so 1600mAh is still bad math. The 2750mAh would give almost 100% more life for >20% higher cost over the 1600.
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Even if the ratings were pure fact, a 1600mAh battery is only 14% more than the stock one, your 11 hour day would have extended to only 12.5 hours, so 1600mAh is still bad math. The 2750mAh would give almost 100% more life for >20% higher cost over the 1600.
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Some users will qualify for a corporate discount from Verizon depending on their employer. I picked up the 2750 for $37 which is a fantastic deal IMHO.
availability
I just bought the extended battery from the verizon-wireless site the night before last. It is available there.
Does anyone know the return policy for accessories from Verizon?
I believe the return policy is 15 days.
You can get it online http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=selectPhone&phoneId=5605&archetypeId=12517
Am I the only one asking, why didn't Samsung include a 1850 mAh battery (like they did in the Galaxy SII Skyrocet) for the G.Nexus?
I mean, unless ICS is optimized to use very little juice (which people are telling me it's not really), I don't understand the decision to go with a smaller battery.
Engadget's review of the Galaxy SII Skyrocket says the 1850 mAh gives it impressive battery life. "Its 1,850mAh juicepack may play a huge role in keeping the phone powered on for a healthy period of time..." http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/11/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-review/
I know it's too early to tell, but I'm a bit worried about the battery life for the GN.
You really think an extra 100 mah is creating awesome battery life?
I invented cyberspace. You're trespassing.
read this http://www.product-reviews.net/2011...-battery-life-dreams-could-turn-into-reality/
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You really think an extra 100 mah is creating awesome battery life?
I invented cyberspace. You're trespassing.
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I don't know, but you make a good point. I'd love to see 2000+ mAh batteries offered.
AndroidandMe once wrote a decent op-ed about how battery technology needs to improve, that it can't solely rely on the software developer's end to make OSes drain less; this is only half of the solution. The other half needs to be batteries that can either last far longer, or charge far quicker.
It'd be exciting if battery technology was heading toward a "super quick charge" state, where one could plug it in for 10 minutes, and get a full charge.
I'm not seeing a lot of news on battery development, though. Or am I just missing the reports?
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I think this is a good sign, though I'm skeptical. Don't get me wrong, I'm rooting for the GN to have awesome battery life. I'd love for some verification on the maxed out and full-LTE settings.
With no announcements about improved battery life on the HD SAMOLED, I don't expect it to have any significant improvements over the current screens. 5-6hrs is more realistic of "continuous" use. And some sites define "continuous" differently. Watching a movie probably won't use as much power as browsing websites on 4G networks.
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I'm not seeing a lot of news on battery development, though. Or am I just missing the reports?
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My cousin is doing her graduate work at Texas on this battery technology situation. They have made huge leaps and bounds over what we all get to play with outside of the lab, but it is so expensive that it will never see a market. I mean cool (read: expensive) stuff like super-cooled nano-tubes (super-cooled ceramics have almost no electrical resistance), microbial-perpetuated energy (small amount of energy in, small amount of energy trickled out over an appreciable amount of time), and increasing the capacity for inductive charging. I always feel like she is holding out on what technology is around the corner, but she has shown me some of their technical papers and there is no super secret mind-boggling technology around the corner, just "promise." Last I talked with her she was doing something with wavelengths and duration of energy over time (inductive charging). It's interesting but unless we want a couple million dollar devices, it isn't feasible (yet).
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It'd be exciting if battery technology was heading toward a "super quick charge" state, where one could plug it in for 10 minutes, and get a full charge.
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Talking to her, this is much more likely. In fact she says they have rapid charge technology (like < half an hour for a Prius battery), but it is both very expensive and unable to be mass produced. Although I feel like someone has advertised this at one of the auto trade shows or something, fairly recently. She mentioned this in terms of an inductive rapid charger that will charge your car when you pull into your garage or in powered parking garages, but she said it was at least ten years out. This is coming though...
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My cousin is doing her graduate work at Texas on this battery technology situation. They have made huge leaps and bounds over what we all get to play with outside of the lab, but it is so expensive that it will never see a market. I mean cool (read: expensive) stuff like super-cooled nano-tubes (super-cooled ceramics have almost no electrical resistance), microbial-perpetuated energy (small amount of energy in, small amount of energy trickled out over an appreciable amount of time), and increasing the capacity for inductive charging. I always feel like she is holding out on what technology is around the corner, but she has shown me some of their technical papers and there is no super secret mind-boggling technology around the corner, just "promise." Last I talked with her she was doing something with wavelengths and duration of energy over time (inductive charging). It's interesting but unless we want a couple million dollar devices, it isn't feasible (yet).
Talking to her, this is much more likely. In fact she says they have rapid charge technology (like < half an hour for a Prius battery), but it is both very expensive and unable to be mass produced. Although I feel like someone has advertised this at one of the auto trade shows or something, fairly recently. She mentioned this in terms of an inductive rapid charger that will charge your car when you pull into your garage or in powered parking garages, but she said it was at least ten years out. This is coming though...
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Very insightful. Thanks for sharing.
Does anyone know how much it is to produce a battery that has 2000+ mAh versus a battery that has 1700-1800 mAh?
Seriously tho, isnt battery life on all smartphones subpar, just saying.
Ive had bout every top smartphone dating back the SE-P800 and battery life comes up...every phone on xda has "battery life not good enough thread." Just plan on charging it everyday or take another battery with you and problem solved.
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wow.. my Desire HD lasts around 10 hours which I consider pretty bad and its only got a 1230 mAh battery, but then again we barely just got 4G in some cities here and I don't plan on using it so I guess that I can get at least a couple of hours with the more battery friendly screen.
at least I hope so.
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Seriously tho, isnt battery life on all smartphones subpar, just saying.
Ive had bout every top smartphone dating back the SE-P800 and battery life comes up...every phone on xda has "battery life not good enough thread." Just plan on charging it everyday or take another battery with you and problem solved.
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You're right to say most smartphones offer a day--more or less--of battery life, but some are better at it than others (e.g., look to the iPhone 4, not 4S), and it doesn't mean battery technology doesn't need to improve.
With how large screens are becoming, and with LTE/HSPA+ and just generally more data-usage, battery life needs to keep up as well.
Of course, there are alternative solutions in the mean time, but usually they are inconvenient. Charging it every night is a given to combat quick drainers, but sometimes when you're out for the whole day and night, it's worrisome to see your phone reach that danger area (15% or so), while knowing you still need it to make calls, use the GPS, etc. Also, carrying an extra battery can be a burdensome annoyance for some.
Also, despite all the features that are offered (ie. widgets, live wallpapers, live location tracking, 4G speeds, etc.), something feels amiss when you have to avoid using these, often touted, features in order to sustain battery longevity.
I understand what you're saying too. It is what it is. But it'd be great to see battery technology improve (and be affordable).
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You're right to say most smartphones offer a day--more or less--of battery life, but some are better at it than others (e.g., look to the iPhone 4, not 4S), and it doesn't mean battery technology doesn't need to improve.
With how large screens are becoming, and with LTE/HSPA+ and just generally more data-usage, battery life needs to keep up as well.
Of course, there are alternative solutions in the mean time, but usually it is inconvenient. Charging it every night is a given to combat quick drainers, but sometimes when you're out for the whole day and night, and it's worrisome to see your phone reach that danger area (15% or so), and you still need it to make calls, use the GPS, etc. Also, carrying an extra battery can be a burdensome annoyance for some.
Also, despite all the features that are offered (ie. widgets, live wallpapers, live location tracking, 4G speeds, etc.), something feels amiss when you have to avoid using these, often touted, features in order to sustain battery longevity.
I understand what you're saying too. It is what it is. But it'd be great to see battery technology improve (and be affordable).
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Processing power is increasing exponentially, energy density of matter is not. That's just a fact of life and there's nothing we can do about it.
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With no announcements about improved battery life on the HD SAMOLED, I don't expect it to have any significant improvements over the current screens. 5-6hrs is more realistic of "continuous" use. And some sites define "continuous" differently. Watching a movie probably won't use as much power as browsing websites on 4G networks.
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Maybe you should read the article.
*AND I QUOTE*
"By heavy usage, we’re talking about contsant 4G LTE data use, playing games, listening to music and so on" (copied and pasted from the article)
That pretty clearly explains what they mean by heavy usage. Sure, we're not getting exact figures of time spent doing each individual thing, but constant use of those things would kill *MY* phone in under 10 hours (Galaxy S II), so if the Galaxy Nexus can last just as long on LTE doing the same things? I'm down.
I never cared about battery life because I always carry extra power with me I've done it since the iphone 3G always, battery pack and an extension cable works for me, I won't change the battery on this because it would require removing case and disrupting the screen saver that I plan on putting on
case will be an AGF ballistics if it's compatible
i'm going with this >SAST Portable Rechargeable 4800mAh Emergency Power Battery w/ White Light LED/Adapters
shipped out 11/9
I'm covered
onthecouchagain said:
Very insightful. Thanks for sharing.
Does anyone know how much it is to produce a battery that has 2000+ mAh versus a battery that has 1700-1800 mAh?
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About 10% more. And it'll be about 10% larger.
I'm not concerned with the battery life persay, as I think it will be pretty good comparatively. I am concerned with the battery life on LTE, as every LTE phone out there is simultaneously great speed and frustratingly battery killing with LTE on. Even on standby mode with lte enabled on my thunderbolt...drain, drain, drain. I can't wait for that to be improved, and I haven't heard anything indicating it will be any different for the GN on lte.
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Maybe you should read the article.
*AND I QUOTE*
"By heavy usage, we’re talking about contsant 4G LTE data use, playing games, listening to music and so on" (copied and pasted from the article)
That pretty clearly explains what they mean by heavy usage. Sure, we're not getting exact figures of time spent doing each individual thing, but constant use of those things would kill *MY* phone in under 10 hours (Galaxy S II), so if the Galaxy Nexus can last just as long on LTE doing the same things? I'm down.
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I did read the article, which is why I said continuous/constant usage for music playing vs playing games would have very different battery drainage.
Of course, if the claims are true, it would indeed be a marvelous improvement.
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I'm not concerned with the battery life persay, as I think it will be pretty good comparatively. I am concerned with the battery life on LTE, as every LTE phone out there is simultaneously great speed and frustratingly battery killing with LTE on. Even on standby mode with lte enabled on my thunderbolt...drain, drain, drain. I can't wait for that to be improved, and I haven't heard anything indicating it will be any different for the GN on lte.
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The second-gen integrated LTE radios should be a lot better in terms of lower juice consumption. Even more so when there doesn't need to be a second CDMA radio in the mix.
But the second-gen hardware won't appear in devices for about another year.
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Bit of an oxymoronic statement
I am hoping the pictures of the i515 battery posted in Samsung's accessory store are correct. *The words say that it is a 1750mah,*but If the picture of the i515 battery is correct on Samsung's site. That is NOT a 1750mah. It is a 2100mah battery. The picture shows 7.77Wh at 3.7v which calculates out to be 2099.999999... Or a 2100mah. The battery of the gsm model shown in Hong Kong is 6.48Wh at 3.7v calculates to 1750mah. Maybe it is the extended battery on Samsung's site. It is definitely for a galaxy phone cause it has the NFC wording on the back, and it is not for the Galaxy Note cause it comes with a 2500mah battery. Maybe this is how the galaxy nexus is doing so well on battery life in the latest battery reports. Hope the Verizon i515 comes standard with a 2100mah.
Hi there, i was considering replacing the battery on my HOX as the battery dies too quick.
If i do simple things like surf the web or check facebook for 2 minutes the battery drains about 3-5%
My uncle has had the phone on contract for 2 years and it finished so he gave me the phone as he got an upgrade and i was thinking of replacing the battery as it may not be able to hold a charge for long.
There are also 2 options i was going for;
HOX+ Battery
HOX Battery
I am wanting to know if it is worth it and which one to get?
I found the Hox Plus Battery on ebay for £20 as mine was driving me nuts and the shop along the rd installed it for £5 but i havent used it in anger yet but i'm hopefull of a little more use out of the phone. There are guides on the net for doing it yourself right enough.
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Fred Newman said:
I found the Hox Plus Battery on ebay for £20 as mine was driving me nuts and the shop along the rd installed it for £5 but i havent used it in anger yet but i'm hopefull of a little more use out of the phone. There are guides on the net for doing it yourself right enough.
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Whats the battery life like after you got it installed?
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Whats the battery life like after you got it installed?
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much better for me
Get the HOX+ battery if you're going to replace it, but don't expect a huge increase in battery life. There will be a marginal difference (which may be quite noticeable if the current battery is 2 years old) but overall the HOX just has poor battery life in general. It's one of the cons of the phone that really can't be overcome, even by reducing screen brightness, turning off wifi, etc. If battery life is important to you, it may be worth getting the HTC One if possible (or the M8 if you can afford it). Alternatively phones like the LG G2 are cheaper but superior to the HOX and have a much better battery life.
Does your HOX die after 1-2 hours of playing something like candy crush?
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Hi there guys, I'm currently using 1+1 and thinking to switch 1+3. I'm using my phone as a personal and business phone. I do lots of texts and IMs handling customers and orders, few calls, lots of web browsing but seldom video playback and no gaming at all.
To be honest, I have no trouble with my current phone. I'm still very happy with how my 1+1 peforms (performance, battery life, camera, etc). I'm thinking about upgrading just because I want it, not because I need it. How good is the battery life compared to 1+1? It concerns me that 1+3 uses smaller capacity battery; 3000 mAh, compared to 3100 mAh on 1+1. As this is a business phone, good battery life is the most important thing that I have in concern. I am too spoiled by how long the battery in my 1+1 lasts.
I am not asking about how well the performance is because 1+3 will perform better than 1+1 with no doubt. I'm not looking for OnePlus 3T because it is not available in my country (and never will), and if it is, the price is going to be out of my budget. FYI 1+3 is about US$480 sold in my country compared to $399 in North America.
If you have owned both devices, I'm looking forward for your comments and insight. Thank you!
Owned both. Got a full day out of both so I can't really add much more than that.
OPO I was always on CM and I'm on OOS for the 3 and I can't really complain after the last few updates. The 3.2.1 (original) update was really bad for me for heat/battery but it stabilized shortly after
I actually don't care about battery since i got this phone...
If i reach the bad spot i charge it
And this charging is pretty fast
Well with the upcoming EAS kernal it looks pretty promising.
When I upgraded from opp to op3 I also worried about battery life. Op3 has slightly smaller battery but the more efficient AMOLED screen make up for that. Dash charge is a nice bonus. I routinely charge my phones every night, but if I forget to connect the charger I can easy go to days without charging.
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When I upgraded from opp to op3 I also worried about battery life. Op3 has slightly smaller battery but the more efficient AMOLED screen make up for that. Dash charge is a nice bonus. I routinely charge my phones every night, but if I forget to connect the charger I can easy go to days without charging.
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So would you say it is better, on par, or worse than 1+1?
I feel op3 battery life is just as great as opo battery was on CyanogenMod 11s, before lollipop ruined battery life on opo.
With my OnePlus3 my battery is during 1 day with 40% à the end of the day.