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Galaxy Nexus Batter Life - Anyone else really concerned?

Am I the only one asking, why didn't Samsung include a 1850 mAh battery (like they did in the Galaxy SII Skyrocet) for the G.Nexus?
I mean, unless ICS is optimized to use very little juice (which people are telling me it's not really), I don't understand the decision to go with a smaller battery.
Engadget's review of the Galaxy SII Skyrocket says the 1850 mAh gives it impressive battery life. "Its 1,850mAh juicepack may play a huge role in keeping the phone powered on for a healthy period of time..." http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/11/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-review/
I know it's too early to tell, but I'm a bit worried about the battery life for the GN.

You really think an extra 100 mah is creating awesome battery life?
I invented cyberspace. You're trespassing.

read this http://www.product-reviews.net/2011...-battery-life-dreams-could-turn-into-reality/

pukemon said:
You really think an extra 100 mah is creating awesome battery life?
I invented cyberspace. You're trespassing.
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I don't know, but you make a good point. I'd love to see 2000+ mAh batteries offered.
AndroidandMe once wrote a decent op-ed about how battery technology needs to improve, that it can't solely rely on the software developer's end to make OSes drain less; this is only half of the solution. The other half needs to be batteries that can either last far longer, or charge far quicker.
It'd be exciting if battery technology was heading toward a "super quick charge" state, where one could plug it in for 10 minutes, and get a full charge.
I'm not seeing a lot of news on battery development, though. Or am I just missing the reports?

BiGMERF said:
read this http://www.product-reviews.net/2011...-battery-life-dreams-could-turn-into-reality/
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I think this is a good sign, though I'm skeptical. Don't get me wrong, I'm rooting for the GN to have awesome battery life. I'd love for some verification on the maxed out and full-LTE settings.

With no announcements about improved battery life on the HD SAMOLED, I don't expect it to have any significant improvements over the current screens. 5-6hrs is more realistic of "continuous" use. And some sites define "continuous" differently. Watching a movie probably won't use as much power as browsing websites on 4G networks.

onthecouchagain said:
I'm not seeing a lot of news on battery development, though. Or am I just missing the reports?
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My cousin is doing her graduate work at Texas on this battery technology situation. They have made huge leaps and bounds over what we all get to play with outside of the lab, but it is so expensive that it will never see a market. I mean cool (read: expensive) stuff like super-cooled nano-tubes (super-cooled ceramics have almost no electrical resistance), microbial-perpetuated energy (small amount of energy in, small amount of energy trickled out over an appreciable amount of time), and increasing the capacity for inductive charging. I always feel like she is holding out on what technology is around the corner, but she has shown me some of their technical papers and there is no super secret mind-boggling technology around the corner, just "promise." Last I talked with her she was doing something with wavelengths and duration of energy over time (inductive charging). It's interesting but unless we want a couple million dollar devices, it isn't feasible (yet).
onthecouchagain said:
It'd be exciting if battery technology was heading toward a "super quick charge" state, where one could plug it in for 10 minutes, and get a full charge.
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Talking to her, this is much more likely. In fact she says they have rapid charge technology (like < half an hour for a Prius battery), but it is both very expensive and unable to be mass produced. Although I feel like someone has advertised this at one of the auto trade shows or something, fairly recently. She mentioned this in terms of an inductive rapid charger that will charge your car when you pull into your garage or in powered parking garages, but she said it was at least ten years out. This is coming though...

s.m.knipe said:
My cousin is doing her graduate work at Texas on this battery technology situation. They have made huge leaps and bounds over what we all get to play with outside of the lab, but it is so expensive that it will never see a market. I mean cool (read: expensive) stuff like super-cooled nano-tubes (super-cooled ceramics have almost no electrical resistance), microbial-perpetuated energy (small amount of energy in, small amount of energy trickled out over an appreciable amount of time), and increasing the capacity for inductive charging. I always feel like she is holding out on what technology is around the corner, but she has shown me some of their technical papers and there is no super secret mind-boggling technology around the corner, just "promise." Last I talked with her she was doing something with wavelengths and duration of energy over time (inductive charging). It's interesting but unless we want a couple million dollar devices, it isn't feasible (yet).
Talking to her, this is much more likely. In fact she says they have rapid charge technology (like < half an hour for a Prius battery), but it is both very expensive and unable to be mass produced. Although I feel like someone has advertised this at one of the auto trade shows or something, fairly recently. She mentioned this in terms of an inductive rapid charger that will charge your car when you pull into your garage or in powered parking garages, but she said it was at least ten years out. This is coming though...
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Very insightful. Thanks for sharing.
Does anyone know how much it is to produce a battery that has 2000+ mAh versus a battery that has 1700-1800 mAh?

Seriously tho, isnt battery life on all smartphones subpar, just saying.
Ive had bout every top smartphone dating back the SE-P800 and battery life comes up...every phone on xda has "battery life not good enough thread." Just plan on charging it everyday or take another battery with you and problem solved.

BiGMERF said:
read this http://www.product-reviews.net/2011...-battery-life-dreams-could-turn-into-reality/
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wow.. my Desire HD lasts around 10 hours which I consider pretty bad and its only got a 1230 mAh battery, but then again we barely just got 4G in some cities here and I don't plan on using it so I guess that I can get at least a couple of hours with the more battery friendly screen.
at least I hope so.

Lcrkz0023 said:
Seriously tho, isnt battery life on all smartphones subpar, just saying.
Ive had bout every top smartphone dating back the SE-P800 and battery life comes up...every phone on xda has "battery life not good enough thread." Just plan on charging it everyday or take another battery with you and problem solved.
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You're right to say most smartphones offer a day--more or less--of battery life, but some are better at it than others (e.g., look to the iPhone 4, not 4S), and it doesn't mean battery technology doesn't need to improve.
With how large screens are becoming, and with LTE/HSPA+ and just generally more data-usage, battery life needs to keep up as well.
Of course, there are alternative solutions in the mean time, but usually they are inconvenient. Charging it every night is a given to combat quick drainers, but sometimes when you're out for the whole day and night, it's worrisome to see your phone reach that danger area (15% or so), while knowing you still need it to make calls, use the GPS, etc. Also, carrying an extra battery can be a burdensome annoyance for some.
Also, despite all the features that are offered (ie. widgets, live wallpapers, live location tracking, 4G speeds, etc.), something feels amiss when you have to avoid using these, often touted, features in order to sustain battery longevity.
I understand what you're saying too. It is what it is. But it'd be great to see battery technology improve (and be affordable).

onthecouchagain said:
You're right to say most smartphones offer a day--more or less--of battery life, but some are better at it than others (e.g., look to the iPhone 4, not 4S), and it doesn't mean battery technology doesn't need to improve.
With how large screens are becoming, and with LTE/HSPA+ and just generally more data-usage, battery life needs to keep up as well.
Of course, there are alternative solutions in the mean time, but usually it is inconvenient. Charging it every night is a given to combat quick drainers, but sometimes when you're out for the whole day and night, and it's worrisome to see your phone reach that danger area (15% or so), and you still need it to make calls, use the GPS, etc. Also, carrying an extra battery can be a burdensome annoyance for some.
Also, despite all the features that are offered (ie. widgets, live wallpapers, live location tracking, 4G speeds, etc.), something feels amiss when you have to avoid using these, often touted, features in order to sustain battery longevity.
I understand what you're saying too. It is what it is. But it'd be great to see battery technology improve (and be affordable).
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Processing power is increasing exponentially, energy density of matter is not. That's just a fact of life and there's nothing we can do about it.

ock said:
With no announcements about improved battery life on the HD SAMOLED, I don't expect it to have any significant improvements over the current screens. 5-6hrs is more realistic of "continuous" use. And some sites define "continuous" differently. Watching a movie probably won't use as much power as browsing websites on 4G networks.
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Maybe you should read the article.
*AND I QUOTE*
"By heavy usage, we’re talking about contsant 4G LTE data use, playing games, listening to music and so on" (copied and pasted from the article)
That pretty clearly explains what they mean by heavy usage. Sure, we're not getting exact figures of time spent doing each individual thing, but constant use of those things would kill *MY* phone in under 10 hours (Galaxy S II), so if the Galaxy Nexus can last just as long on LTE doing the same things? I'm down.

I never cared about battery life because I always carry extra power with me I've done it since the iphone 3G always, battery pack and an extension cable works for me, I won't change the battery on this because it would require removing case and disrupting the screen saver that I plan on putting on
case will be an AGF ballistics if it's compatible
i'm going with this >SAST Portable Rechargeable 4800mAh Emergency Power Battery w/ White Light LED/Adapters
shipped out 11/9
I'm covered

onthecouchagain said:
Very insightful. Thanks for sharing.
Does anyone know how much it is to produce a battery that has 2000+ mAh versus a battery that has 1700-1800 mAh?
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About 10% more. And it'll be about 10% larger.

I'm not concerned with the battery life persay, as I think it will be pretty good comparatively. I am concerned with the battery life on LTE, as every LTE phone out there is simultaneously great speed and frustratingly battery killing with LTE on. Even on standby mode with lte enabled on my thunderbolt...drain, drain, drain. I can't wait for that to be improved, and I haven't heard anything indicating it will be any different for the GN on lte.

hotleadsingerguy said:
Maybe you should read the article.
*AND I QUOTE*
"By heavy usage, we’re talking about contsant 4G LTE data use, playing games, listening to music and so on" (copied and pasted from the article)
That pretty clearly explains what they mean by heavy usage. Sure, we're not getting exact figures of time spent doing each individual thing, but constant use of those things would kill *MY* phone in under 10 hours (Galaxy S II), so if the Galaxy Nexus can last just as long on LTE doing the same things? I'm down.
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I did read the article, which is why I said continuous/constant usage for music playing vs playing games would have very different battery drainage.
Of course, if the claims are true, it would indeed be a marvelous improvement.

johnchad14 said:
I'm not concerned with the battery life persay, as I think it will be pretty good comparatively. I am concerned with the battery life on LTE, as every LTE phone out there is simultaneously great speed and frustratingly battery killing with LTE on. Even on standby mode with lte enabled on my thunderbolt...drain, drain, drain. I can't wait for that to be improved, and I haven't heard anything indicating it will be any different for the GN on lte.
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The second-gen integrated LTE radios should be a lot better in terms of lower juice consumption. Even more so when there doesn't need to be a second CDMA radio in the mix.
But the second-gen hardware won't appear in devices for about another year.

Lcrkz0023 said:
Seriously tho, isnt battery life on all smartphones subpar, just saying.
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Bit of an oxymoronic statement

I am hoping the pictures of the i515 battery posted in Samsung's accessory store are correct. *The words say that it is a 1750mah,*but If the picture of the i515 battery is correct on Samsung's site. That is NOT a 1750mah. It is a 2100mah battery. The picture shows 7.77Wh at 3.7v which calculates out to be 2099.999999... Or a 2100mah. The battery of the gsm model shown in Hong Kong is 6.48Wh at 3.7v calculates to 1750mah. Maybe it is the extended battery on Samsung's site. It is definitely for a galaxy phone cause it has the NFC wording on the back, and it is not for the Galaxy Note cause it comes with a 2500mah battery. Maybe this is how the galaxy nexus is doing so well on battery life in the latest battery reports. Hope the Verizon i515 comes standard with a 2100mah.

[Q] Toke my HOX apart, need internal HI-CAPACITY battery

Hello All,
I toke my HTC One X apart to replace the internal battery with a higher capacity one, as i've tried all the methods listed here to enhance my battery life, but it failed to survive a 12 hours idling - it seems that HTC forgot that the user might use his phone through the day -
anyway, i'm looking for an "INTERNAL" and "HIGHER-CAPACITY" like 2100mAh, 2400mAh battery to replace my 1800 mAh one, any suggestions please?

I don't believe that there is a higher capacity internal battery for the HOX. From what I've read on here is that any higher capacity battery would require the a bigger case for it. Just by opening it up you have now voided your warranty, and any third party manufacturer would not make you void your warranty to increase battery capacity. Your only option is to buy the cases that utilize the pogo pins to increase your battery

thanks for your reply teky, actually i dont care about the warranty, but i believe i can find a higher capacity battery as the iPhone one, i've bought a 2300 mAh from ebay for my old iphone and it was at the same size as its original one, the performance was amazing, it lasted about 2 days with a heavy usage.

Hossam.Abdelsalam said:
thanks for your reply teky, actually i dont care about the warranty, but i believe i can find a higher capacity battery as the iPhone one, i've bought a 2300 mAh from ebay for my old iphone and it was at the same size as its original one, the performance was amazing, it lasted about 2 days with a heavy usage.
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likeliness is, if it wasn't physically bigger, then the mah was no more than the original. probably the fact that the first battery was knackered and just buying a new one seemed like it was lasting longer, when in fact it wasn't lasting any longer than a new original battery..

btw, the battery in the 1x is soft...gg, how were u planning on replacing it.
sent from my Viper Bitten One X

i need too an hi-capacity battery, but...is simply to remove the internal battery?

Be careful... A design flaw in the custom battery may cause it to explode.

Every battery I've read about online that promised higher capacity for the same size proved to be a fraud. The best story I saw was posted on the xda-dev forums. The user cut off the outer packaging of the battery to reveal the original battery inside, and printed on this was the real (much lower) capacity.
I don't know much about battery tech :silly:, as I'm about to prove but ... I believe it's basically a chemical reaction that releases power (and the reaction is revered when charging). The capacity of the battery is related to the volume of material available for the reaction, so basically physics is against us on this one.
If it seems too good to be true, it is. If technology were available to produce safe, cheap batteries, of the same size with a higher capacity, why doesn't a single large reputable manufacturer produce what would obviously be a lucrative accessory?

Are we not missing the point that his phone can't do 12 hours idling? My wife's currently very under used one x has managed 7 days and 10 hours from a single charge with 3g on almost zero screen on so true idle.
My used one x can easily make 2days of what I class as moderate use.
There must be some software issue or as Vodafone in Perth did a misconfigured network stopping 3g from going idle and sucking the battery dry.
Cheers
Steve

you can use the battery of the hox+ and get an extra 300mAh ...
but am going to take the batt of my spare one x and see if the battery of the htc butterfly s would fit... you get like an extra 1200mAh
hope it does....

Salim.Keady said:
you can use the battery of the hox+ and get an extra 300mAh ...
but am going to take the batt of my spare one x and see if the battery of the htc butterfly s would fit... you get like an extra 1200mAh
hope it does....
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Please make a thread about that, even if it doesn't fit. Battery life on my HOX is crippling, hardly get 2 hours screen time.

jaw2floor said:
Please make a thread about that, even if it doesn't fit. Battery life on my HOX is crippling, hardly get 2 hours screen time.
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Same here man but am currently busy with exams to see into this...
For now am using a cover battery 2200mah
And check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=258680.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

[BATTERY] To everyone that complain about battery life!

I read the biggest difference between the g2 and n5 are the battery life..
No biggy. I just bought one of these for £19.97 from eBay.
It's a "Power Bank" portable charger with a capacity of 15000mAh.
It has two ports, 1A and 2A. 2A is actually 2.1A, which is fairly fast. It's about 0.5 cm taller and wider than the n5, so you can just sit your phone comfortably on top of it while you eat lunch or whatever.
This charged my n5 from 14% to 100% in about 30 mins while playing a light game, and used roughly 1/5 of the total capacity.
I no longer charge my phones at night. I just charge this badboy. I've had it for a week and well, I haven't worried when my phone gets to 15% battery remaining by 12:00 due to heavy use and gaming. Neither has it ran out of charge before the end of the day, and it comes with 4 different adapters for varied devices.
It's perfect.
I found this new on eBay but you can find them anywhere, just make sure the get at least a 2.1A port for fast charging.
Sent from the dark side of the moon.

Shopping link?

probably something like this one
looks similar...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/15000mAh-...162?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d0e26bb6a

Sorry here's the link to the one I bought and that one the other guy linked looks very chunky and ugly no offence lol but yeah it's pretty much the same thing (same power, ports and adapters)
Edit : it's been reduced to £17.97 :thumbup:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=121165722395
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con4n007 said:
probably something like this one
looks similar...
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seems bulky and is around 32cdn.

Awww yeah!!
So essentially this, but with a battery pack!

Haha! That's hilarious but don't think that would be necessary since it fully charges in no time at all lmao
Sent from the dark side of the moon.

Hello everyone,
I hope to buy a power bank for my new Nexus 5.
I have made many search and I found that all power bank provide more that 1.2 A as output.
I noticed that the Nexus 5 official charger provide 1.2 A as output. So if I will buy a power bank that provides 2A or 3A, this will make problems for the phone battery ??
It is real that the important amperage charge the phone very fast, but this will not make problems for the battery ??

Ive got problems with the nexus 5's battery life aswell.
Now I'm using franco kernel and greenify and some other simple battery saving methods (no vibrate on key press, ...)
Feels like my battery life tripled it's juice!

Battary Life of Nexus 5
iKlutz said:
I read the biggest difference between the g2 and n5 are the battery life..
No biggy. I just bought one of these for £19.97 from eBay.
It's a "Power Bank" portable charger with a capacity of 15000mAh.
It has two ports, 1A and 2A. 2A is actually 2.1A, which is fairly fast. It's about 0.5 cm taller and wider than the n5, so you can just sit your phone comfortably on top of it while you eat lunch or whatever.
This charged my n5 from 14% to 100% in about 30 mins while playing a light game, and used roughly 1/5 of the total capacity.
I no longer charge my phones at night. I just charge this badboy. I've had it for a week and well, I haven't worried when my phone gets to 15% battery remaining by 12:00 due to heavy use and gaming. Neither has it ran out of charge before the end of the day, and it comes with 4 different adapters for varied devices.
It's perfect.
I found this new on eBay but you can find them anywhere, just make sure the get at least a 2.1A port for fast charging.
Sent from the dark side of the moon.
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Power supply life is an issue for everyone modern touch screen phones, besides the Nexus 5. Handsets increasingly becoming thinner, displays pack in additional pixels than ever, mobile systems are getting more source intensive, and battery power technology basically can’t sustain. The issue is additional evident using some smartphones than it's in some others, however, and the actual Nexus 5 confirms itself on the list of worst performers we've got tested lately with regards to battery lifetime.

The best feature I have ever had on a smartphone was a power saving feature from the HTC one.
So simple but amazing at saving battery life.
It turned off the data connection when you were not using it.
So simple.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using xda app-developers app

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however, and the actual Nexus 5 confirms itself on the list of worst performers we've got tested lately with regards to battery lifetime.
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Proper testing conditions disagrees with you. You'd be hard pressed to find a more efficient quad core 2300 mAh phone ever made. The G2's 3000 mAh it can not match though.
http://anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review/3

[Q] Onite or Hyperion extended battery?

Hey guys just a quick simple question, which of these two brands is more reputable and offers higher quality batteries?
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-GT-i...843965&sr=8-2&keywords=i9250+extended+battery
http://www.amazon.com/Onite-Extende...843965&sr=8-1&keywords=i9250+extended+battery
Both have good ratings on amazon but I was wondering about guys who actually have these batteries. Is the larger hyperion better than the NFC equipped Onite? FYI I never really use NFC so it is not a factor here. I just want to get the better quality, longer lasting battery.

amd-dude said:
Hey guys just a quick simple question, which of these two brands is more reputable and offers higher quality batteries?
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-GT-i...843965&sr=8-2&keywords=i9250+extended+battery
http://www.amazon.com/Onite-Extende...843965&sr=8-1&keywords=i9250+extended+battery
Both have good ratings on amazon but I was wondering about guys who actually have these batteries. Is the larger hyperion better than the NFC equipped Onite? FYI I never really use NFC so it is not a factor here. I just want to get the better quality, longer lasting battery.
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I don't have the Hyperion battery, I instead have once from QCell and the Onite (3500) you linked. I got them since October/Septmeber 2013 and both of them blow the stock (1700) battery away. But my QCell battery seems to last a little bit longer (and I think its a slightly larger capacity battery) but the battery seems to discharge at a weird rate. It rapidly discharges and then it gains back a couple of %. As a result, the battery graph looks very spiky jittery mess. But it still works fine but it may randomly shut down at the 5-10% mark.
Right now, I use the Onite as a daily driver for those reason alone as it doesn't derp like the Qcell does. It definitely falls under the category of not bad. But be warned batteries of this size will make your phone huge, bulky and heavy haha. Picking up a Nexus 5 will make you think its a feather light after using huge batteries on the GNex.
Wifi use at home easily gets me 5-6 hour screen on time with a little more than 2d uptime. The days where I go out the entire day, it would last about 4 hours +/- screen on time (I run at way higher brightness when I'm not at home), BT on when in the car streaming audio for 1 hour, average signal and about 15+ hours uptime because I replug in when I sleep with usually 10-30% to spare. In short, I never run out of battery less than a day of usage. Almost double the battery life of stock battery. With Trinity kernel, you easily gain an extra half an hour of SOT on this battery.
GTA SA though kills the Onite battery flat in 2h 30m of continuos gaming with thermal throttle disabled (Trinity kernel) at 20%+ brightness

amd-dude said:
Hey guys just a quick simple question, which of these two brands is more reputable and offers higher quality batteries?
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-GT-i...843965&sr=8-2&keywords=i9250+extended+battery
http://www.amazon.com/Onite-Extende...843965&sr=8-1&keywords=i9250+extended+battery
Both have good ratings on amazon but I was wondering about guys who actually have these batteries. Is the larger hyperion better than the NFC equipped Onite? FYI I never really use NFC so it is not a factor here. I just want to get the better quality, longer lasting battery.
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I would go for the Onite, for sure. Even if I don't really like to use not original battery. I think it's unsafe for the smartphone itself.

akash3656 said:
I don't have the Hyperion battery, I instead have once from QCell and the Onite (3500) you linked. I got them since October/Septmeber 2013 and both of them blow the stock (1700) battery away. But my QCell battery seems to last a little bit longer (and I think its a slightly larger capacity battery) but the battery seems to discharge at a weird rate. It rapidly discharges and then it gains back a couple of %. As a result, the battery graph looks very spiky jittery mess. But it still works fine but it may randomly shut down at the 5-10% mark.
Right now, I use the Onite as a daily driver for those reason alone as it doesn't derp like the Qcell does. It definitely falls under the category of not bad. But be warned batteries of this size will make your phone huge, bulky and heavy haha. Picking up a Nexus 5 will make you think its a feather light after using huge batteries on the GNex.
Wifi use at home easily gets me 5-6 hour screen on time with a little more than 2d uptime. The days where I go out the entire day, it would last about 4 hours +/- screen on time (I run at way higher brightness when I'm not at home), BT on when in the car streaming audio for 1 hour, average signal and about 15+ hours uptime because I replug in when I sleep with usually 10-30% to spare. In short, I never run out of battery less than a day of usage. Almost double the battery life of stock battery. With Trinity kernel, you easily gain an extra half an hour of SOT on this battery.
GTA SA though kills the Onite battery flat in 2h 30m of continuos gaming with thermal throttle disabled (Trinity kernel) at 20%+ brightness
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Thanks for that really in depth response, I appreciate it. I will definitely buy the Onite battery. Thank you again.

I bought the Hyperion 2 days ago and here are some screen shots of my usage yesterday, I think I could do better with some modifications...
Cheers from Tx
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6000mah Battery for Mate 20X legit?

Saw this aftermarket 6000mah battery for the 20X on aliexpress, good reviews all round (one review says it's 7500mah). Has anyone tried this? If so how was the installation process?
5000mah already lasts me 2-4 days but 6000mah would be really handy during heavy use days.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33047747490.html

Vicxx said:
Saw this aftermarket 6000mah battery for the 20X on aliexpress, good reviews all round (one review says it's 7500mah). Has anyone tried this? If so how was the installation process?
5000mah already lasts me 2-4 days but 6000mah would be really handy during heavy use days.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33047747490.html
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Here you go. The 1st link is a video teardown and the 2nd is a guide. You will need to apply some heat to open the cover. But a blow dryer may suffice. Buy T7000 glue to glue the cover back on. Its a very simple removal, not hard at all.
Huawei Mate 20 X Teardown
More power, more screen, more battery, more...
www.ifixit.com
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Vicxx said:
Saw this aftermarket 6000mah battery for the 20X on aliexpress, good reviews all round (one review says it's 7500mah). Has anyone tried this? If so how was the installation process?
5000mah already lasts me 2-4 days but 6000mah would be really handy during heavy use days.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33047747490.html
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it is fake

PhoneTechShop said:
it is fake
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How do you know? have you tried it?

Vicxx said:
How do you know? have you tried it?
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No these chinese companies trying lie to sell ... not just with these batteries but any other.. just peel of their label and u will see original 5000 huawei battery

I know some of them do lie but you can't go around saying ALL chinese companies and sellers are frauds. If you're going around making unsubstantiated claims with not even a shred of evidence no one will ever take you seriously again, at least not me.

Vicxx said:
I know some of them do lie but you can't go around saying ALL chinese companies and sellers are frauds. If you're going around making unsubstantiated claims with not even a shred of evidence no one will ever take you seriously again, at least not me.
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Is the battery bigger or thicker than orig ? u cannot make bigger mAh and keeping same size man think.com ...
download an app which detects battery capacity and let me know who was right ...
Or let me know how longer will phone last from charge than with original
Edit : I attached picture from your link and they claiming in description ''above 5000mAh'' How can you be so naive??
And 7000 ?? yeah right ... keep dreaming..
And one Russian (with bad english) left only 3 stars s the battery apparently is not any good .. Didn't understand quite what he was saying.. But 3 stars says it all

to be fair its not all just about size, there is a thing such as energy density, which is actually the most important factor in a battery's design
in general, i would advise caution when buying non-original batteries. at the same time, higher capacity in the same form factor is totally inside the realm of possibility.

jbmc83 said:
to be fair its not all just about size, there is a thing such as energy density, which is actually the most important factor in a battery's design
in general, i would advise caution when buying non-original batteries. at the same time, higher capacity in the same form factor is totally inside the realm of possibility.
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As I know about batteries. Li-ion batteries has best density
Speaking of cell density batteries there would have to be new design and new technology.
For more battery cells you obviously need larger battery ! THAT'S WHY Mate 20 X / Honor Note 10 battery is the largest from all.
Battery Size
Although higher-capacity batteries generally last longer than lower-capacity ones, they are not always suitable for use in every device. To achieve a higher capacity, battery makers often have to fit more cells into each battery. Cells are the parts of a battery in which the chemical reaction needed to generate electricity happens. Increasing a battery's cell count can in turn increase both the size and weight of the battery, making it unsuitable for use in slimline devices such as smaller cell phones and netbooks. The temperature and speed of electrical current discharge affects the overall capacity of the battery. Poorly made batteries often heat up too quickly resulting in performance issues or degraded capacity.
To calculate a battery's life, divide the capacity of the battery by the current required by the object it powers. For example, imagine that you have two batteries for your cell phone, one with a capacity of 1000 mAh and one with a capacity of 2000 mAh, and that your phone requires a current of 200 mA to function. The first battery would power the phone for five hours, as 1000 divided by 200 equals five. But the second battery would power the phone for ten hours, as it has double the capacity of the first. While a larger number indicates battery power, larger mAh batteries may not be better if it is a poor quality battery. It simply means it can store more power.
Cell phone battery life is heavily dependent on the way in which you use the phone. The more features you run at the same time on your phone, the more current your phone requires and the quicker the battery's capacity drains. This is why using WiFi or running complex games on your phone drains the battery quickly. As such, a battery with a high capacity that is used to power a smartphone might last for less time than a low-capacity battery that powers a basic device.