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[Q] Where to buy BETTER & GOOD replacement BATTERY for HTC Desire?

Hello Androians,
I'm from the Philippines, and want to know more about better and good replacement battery for the desire. I'm surfing and looking into Ebays. but can't decide which one and have doubts if this would fit for Desire. I've heard a lot from a MUGEN or SEIDIO batteries, but don't know which one is with greater and better battery life.
Hope you can help me decide,or find new brands of replacement batteries that provides good and compatible battery for HTC Desire.
Thanks
Regards,
Chad

google for mobilefun htc battery ba s410...
(sorry but I'm not allowed to post direct links 'cause I'm a new user...)
I saw it from another post somewhere; It is the only htc original battery I found.
I bought it last friday but not yet received, so I can't tell you how it is.

Before you dive in for a 3rd party batt ...
I read an article sometime ago comparing batteries. forgive me for not being able to remember the source (or sponsors for that matter) for the article, but HTC original batt is supposed to be of high qualities having effective charge capacity of 90% or so. 3rd party may claim higher capacity but their effective capacity is can be about 80% or lower.
This chart might be useful
http://batteryboss.org/

craylim said:
Before you dive in for a 3rd party batt ...
I read an article sometime ago comparing batteries. forgive me for not being able to remember the source (or sponsors for that matter) for the article, but HTC original batt is supposed to be of high qualities having effective charge capacity of 90% or so. 3rd party may claim higher capacity but their effective capacity is can be about 80% or lower.
If i can find the article again i will post it up.
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I have also read this. Unless the battery shows a significant increase in capacity (one of those 2500-3500mah ones which require a different back panel) then the likelihood is that you will have worse battery life compared to your original HTC battery.

this is for General subForum,sorry m8 nothing with development

I bought the Mugen 3200 battery,it is bigger and comes with a new back panel but now instead of charging by noon I spent the whole day trying to get the battery to drain ,best i got was 40% after more than 20 hours of usage.

zaki67 said:
I bought the Mugen 3200 battery,it is bigger and comes with a new back panel but now instead of charging by noon I spent the whole day trying to get the battery to drain ,best i got was 40% after more than 20 hours of usage.
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Wow. That's great. How's the performance of your HTC Desire and hows the temperature of the phone?
Where did you bought the Mugen Battery for HTC Battery?
Thanks mate

zaki67 said:
I bought the Mugen 3200 battery,it is bigger and comes with a new back panel but now instead of charging by noon I spent the whole day trying to get the battery to drain ,best i got was 40% after more than 20 hours of usage.
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Im also interested where you've bought that batt.. Does it make the phone a bit bulkier? Since you said that it came with a new back-cover.. i suppose it adds to the back of the phone which is fugly.. for me at least.. Anyone tried any of the "normal" batteries and can provide feedback? Or anyone knows from where can i buy an original one? Im fine with that as long as the price doesnt go up from 25e...

Sorry for the late reply , I got it from mugs website for 79 dollars , it does make the phone a bit bigger with a lump on the back ,( this also makes most if not all cases useless ) but it is not as bad as I thought it would be from the pics and the performance.is much better than I.expected .it is now 9 : 22 pm and I have 66 % of my battery remaining I used to get this percentage by noon .
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

yeah mugen power batterys are the best, i also have the big one with the diffrent battery cover, sometimes i can go 3 days without charging you can buy them here http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/

Seidio battery works fine for me. I bought 2 other batteries from e-bay for less that usd10 a pop but they dont fit. They are slightly bigger. If i force it in, it can fit but not sure what will happen in the long run.

HTC Evo 3D Battery work in Thunderbolt?

The HTC Evo 3D comes out later this month with a stock HTC 1720 mAh battery, if that will work in the Thunderbolt than I want one! (I prefer OEM batteries and not having to make the phone fatter is preferred)
Please share your thoughts below

scook9 said:
The HTC Evo 3D comes out later this month with a stock HTC 1720 mAh battery, if that will work in the Thunderbolt than I want one! (I prefer OEM batteries and not having to make the phone fatter is preferred)
Please share your thoughts below
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Why not just buy a 1700 mAh battery now..? HTC Express has them

It's not REALLY 100 mAh.

After some investigating it does not look like it will fit ;(
http://www.anandtech.com/Gallery/Album/1123#12
Hoepfully someone will be able to try and confirm though

You can tell by looking at it that it's not going to fit. It's square, and looks to be thicker than ours. Also has some plastic different where it actually locks into the phone.

Siedio makes a 1600ma battery that's slim and on ebay there are 1800's that are slim... but who knows the quality of the ebay ones.

I've got one of the seidio 1600's, and while I can't say it lasts any LONGER than the factory battery, I can say it doesn't last any less than the factory battery.

That is the problem with the thunderbolt, the slim battery doesn't offer much of a power boost over the stock battery. You have sacrifice the form factor for a fat battery. I have tried a knock off battery from eBay and it doesn't longer than stock. I purchased the larger VZW extended battery.

DrPepperLives23 said:
It's not REALLY 100 mAh.
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Just got them the other day.. They last a lot longer than the stock battery on CM7 so I'm going to assume they're at least more mAh than the stock

From what I remember, you can't get more power into a smaller package with Li batteries. The reason is because the cell size is standard. There's no cell that's smaller that can store more power.
So to produce a Li battery that had more storage, you have to add more cells. More cells = larger battery. Looks that those so called "slim" batteries are just the standard battery marketed as having more capacity, when they really don't.

crabjoe said:
From what I remember, you can't get more power into a smaller package with Li batteries. The reason is because the cell size is standard. There's no cell that's smaller that can store more power.
So to produce a Li battery that had more storage, you have to add more cells. More cells = larger battery. Looks that those so called "slim" batteries are just the standard battery marketed as having more capacity, when they really don't.
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So does my CM7 just magically work better..?

joshnichols189 said:
So does my CM7 just magically work better..?
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maybe you had a defective battery or less effective... no 2 phones are the same i doubt every battery is perfect..... and maybe its all in your head or your stock battery wasnt calibrated correctly. lots of options

thejondude said:
maybe you had a defective battery or less effective... no 2 phones are the same i doubt every battery is perfect..... and maybe its all in your head or your stock battery wasnt calibrated correctly. lots of options
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Idk man, calibrated the stock battery every time I flashed a new rom, in recovery and with the app.. and it's not in my head because two days ago on CM7 I had four hours of screen on time (don't judge.. sometimes a 30 min Mario 64 break turns into a few hours..) and 15 hours total which I never saw with stock.. D: Maybe my original battery was defective but I always had better battery life than those who claim only 6-8 hours

Seidio battery
Seidio batteries DO cram more power in the same space. They dont use standard cell sizes and they use less protective shelling around the battery to squeeze in a slightly largers cell size. I remember my old Verizon VX6700 battery from them being a "soft" pack battery... no hard plastic shell like the standard OEM batt.

[Q] Regarding 3500mAh battery!

Hey guys I just saw a 3500mAh battery for SGS2 on ebay. Is it safe to use such battery? I mean it won't harm the phone, will it? :O

Probably won't harm the phone, no.
I bought a 3500mAh obscurely branded Chinese battery in mid-December. Tried it out for almost two weeks, a bunch of charge/discharge cycles & estimated its real capacity was around 1900mAh. It also used to heat up a lot on recharge (mid-high 40's Celsius, which isn't normal when the phone isn't being used whilst charging).
I took it back, got a refund & bought an original Samsung 2000mAh battery. Hasn't missed a beat, is obviously close to its advertised capacity given I get around 20% more use out of a charge than I do with a 1600mAh battery.
Obviously your mileage may vary if you buy one of these (you might have a better experience than I did), just thought I'd let you know about my experience.

MistahBungle said:
Probably won't harm the phone, no.
I bought a 3500mAh obscurely branded Chinese battery in mid-December. Tried it out for almost two weeks, a bunch of charge/discharge cycles & estimated its real capacity was around 1900mAh. It also used to heat up a lot on recharge (mid-high 40's Celsius, which isn't normal when the phone isn't being used whilst charging).
I took it back, got a refund & bought an original Samsung 2000mAh battery. Hasn't missed a beat, is obviously close to its advertised capacity given I get around 20% more use out of a charge than I do with a 1600mAh battery.
Obviously your mileage may vary if you buy one of these (you might have a better experience than I did), just thought I'd let you know about my experience.
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Thank you very much!

chinmayanaokar said:
Hey guys I just saw a 3500mAh battery for SGS2 on ebay. Is it safe to use such battery? I mean it won't harm the phone, will it? :O
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Well i heard that their batteries exploded in their phones......so be careful.....better pay for a better one instead of having a chance to ruin your expensive phone.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium

I have one of those I got from DealExtreme and it is great. It lasts 2x longer than the original Samsung battery.
I take care not to swap them often, because I am afraid that this action might damage the original cover, eventually breaking it.

Battery Life
I am still using the 1650 mAh battery (stock) for my S2.
I am really facing some battery issues. Its charging almost all day !
Yes I am using 3G all day and WiFi HotSpot too. But use wifi at home. Thats when I get good battery life. Any better way to conserve some battery ?
Any tips might help
Thanks

Got mine a few days ago from eBay and its been fine so far. It last more than 2x the regular battery. Phone does not heat up or anything strange..
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA

well i an getting with the original battery 24H of usage.
with the 3500mah i am getting 60H of usage... so my 3500 is truly 3500mah!
the language is hebrew.
i use congnition rom 1.51 and siyah kernel.

So, where can I see a trustful review on batteries for SGS2? What is the most extended one?
It's really frustrating that my current stock battery is only enough for 2 hd video view (4-5 hours).
Also, the higher the mAh value the more battery lifetime is, right?
I would really want to buy 3500 mAh, but it costs so little.
And the official Samsung variant that offers the longest lifetime of a battery for SGS2 is this one, maybe Mugen 3500 mAh is the best choice out there?
chenrp said:
well i an getting with the original battery 24H of usage.
with the 3500mah i am getting 60H of usage... so my 3500 is truly 3500mah!
the language is hebrew.
i use congnition rom 1.51 and siyah kernel.
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What is the model name of the battery? Is it being overheated in comparison to stock one?

why should it overheat?
it is lithium ... same same

Yes, it's special lithium from China extracted under full moon and blessed by a thousand virgins
Really now, if it was possible to manufacture a battery having more than double the capacity of the stock battery while taking up the same volume, don't you think the megacorporate Samsung would buy that technology immediately in order to use it themselves ? "Too cheap to be true" is valid even here; most knock-off batteries either are fake ("9999 mAH SUPER EXTRA" sticker over the original rating), or will degrade quickly in time leaving you with a dud.
Since there are already fake electronic components...
... why not fake and cheap batteries too, certainly seems to be a high demand for them.

a. it is not the same volume! in is twice as much as the original.
b. the i9100 has a circuit that allows a slow stable charge rate so i dont think it will damage the battery.

As well as being made of inferior materials, not being subjected to the same QC, not having the fuel gauge chip present in original Samsung batteries, you pretty much get what you pay for.
My advice would be to avoid non-original batteries altogether, and given a 2000mAh original battery will cost around the same as one of these 3000mAh+ batteries with all their problems & poor life, it's a no brainer.
Stick with Samsung batteries.

fuel gauge chip?
i would like to see that chip in an any cellphone battery please.

If you're not aware of/don't know about the fuel gauge chip in original SGS2 batteries, you've probably been living under a rock since the phone was released
chenrp said:
fuel gauge chip?
i would like to see that chip in an any cellphone battery please.
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MistahBungle said:
If you're not aware of/don't know about the fuel gauge chip in original SGS2 batteries, you've probably been living under a rock since the phone was released
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well i think that you misunderstood the meaning fuel gauge.
there is no chip in the battery that is in charge of the fuel gauge.
furthermore there is no use of recalibrating the battery in out i9100 model.
all you gave me is a link you Google...
please... show me that chip! i would like to learn something new about lithium batteries..

Plz can you Possible link topic of the battery
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk

chenrp said:
why should it overheat?
it is lithium ... same same
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What about the other question that you chose to ignore, regarding the battery's model that you mentioned.

thanks for the info guys,
cuz I need a battery really disparately cuz I use so much data and sync :'(
I couldn't find something really reliable feedback from viewers, and i'm trying to find something with good quality as well!
guess i have to search further!

VAXXi said:
Yes, it's special lithium from China extracted under full moon and blessed by a thousand virgins
Really now, if it was possible to manufacture a battery having more than double the capacity of the stock battery while taking up the same volume, don't you think the megacorporate Samsung would buy that technology immediately in order to use it themselves ? "Too cheap to be true" is valid even here; most knock-off batteries either are fake ("9999 mAH SUPER EXTRA" sticker over the original rating), or will degrade quickly in time leaving you with a dud.
Since there are already fake electronic components...
... why not fake and cheap batteries too, certainly seems to be a high demand for them.
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You have a point mate! Thanks

[POLL] HTC One extended batteries: Yes or No

I have just come across this interesting Poll on facebook concerning the replacement of internal batteries on HTC One Series with extended batteries.
https://www.facebook.com/questions/10150675611462172/
Apparently Mugen is planning to produce extended batteries for internal battery phones as well and supply an intrusion manual for users on how to open the phone and replace the internal battery.
What do you think??
Vote the Poll here or on facebook and we can discuss the issues in a meanwhile!!

since the cover non-removable i don't think that i would do it...

Would a extended battery case that would latch on the 5 pins at the back be more feasible instead? Seems like a less intrusive method of extending battery life.

On facebook 55 voters voted with yes - open yourself!! and like 7 voters in total selected other options!!
I cannot wait to get the phone in my hands and test it, i am sure it will require stronger battery to use its full capacity without compromising, so would open up and exchange the battery for sure.

digimaz said:
Would a extended battery case that would latch on the 5 pins at the back be more feasible instead? Seems like a less intrusive method of extending battery life.
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I reckon this would be the best way to go. As soon as you pull off that cover you can kiss your warranty goodbye.
Something like a PowerSkin would be a much better alternative for Mugen.

Battery life on this phone is fine for me. I see no need to change the battery.

Considering that Moto/VZ are going to be offering the option to put the MAXX battery in the RAZR I wouldn't be surprised if more companies start doing the same.
That said, one advantage of having a very difficult to remove internal battery is that people can't steal your phone and disable your ability to track it simply by pulling the battery. Not go give manufacturers/carriers credence to do so, but I'd certainly pay to have an extended battery put in under warranty, though I would think it's cheaper to simply put something slightly better in to begin with.

Considering that Moto Maxx
Was considering that phon to. The idea of a original 3300 battery is just to good to be true... hope the other companies will copy the idea =)

the juice is simply not enough for a phone with such a huge screen, i voted yes and i am surprised with the capacity of the battery of htc one x.

Nah
From what I've read, users (somehow) have been able to get really good battery life out of them despite the huge screen and mediocre battery. I'd try it out for a few weeks before you throw your money at something you probably won't need.

I'm gonna say no. I like slim phones

You have your phone for 1 week and your battery sucks? Its not that the battery is very poor, it's just the fact that a LI-ION battery takes up to 2 weeks to be fully calibrated. We talk here about a new phone, with a battery that didn't run before now.
So give this little guy a break and try it for 2-3 weeks before saying that the battery life is horrible. If it lasts 1 day and some hours it is a good battery life for a smartphone with this huge display!

does replacing void the warranty?

pshadoww said:
does replacing void the warranty?
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Without a shadow of a doubt

1ceb0x said:
You have your phone for 1 week and your battery sucks? Its not that the battery is very poor, it's just the fact that a LI-ION battery takes up to 2 weeks to be fully calibrated. We talk here about a new phone, with a battery that didn't run before now.
So give this little guy a break and try it for 2-3 weeks before saying that the battery life is horrible. If it lasts 1 day and some hours it is a good battery life for a smartphone with this huge display!
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As someone educated me on this I'll pass on the favor. Li-ion batteries do not need a breaking in period like old tech rechargeables. It has a specific amount of charges it can take before it no longer holds max charge, but it holds that maximum charge from the first day.

With the right settings a good sense ROM will get pretty decent battery. But I do feel slightly limited by the 1500 battery. It would've been nice to have easy battery modding from the get go.

Thank god I am satisfied with my battery life, in V ONE as far as I know the battery is not removable, right?

You can remove it. You just have to take the whole phone apart to get at it.
Sent from my HTC One V using xda app-developers app

i dont know .. maybe yes

hhh, original battery is not enough?
Or how about mobile bank?

6000mah Battery for Mate 20X legit?

Saw this aftermarket 6000mah battery for the 20X on aliexpress, good reviews all round (one review says it's 7500mah). Has anyone tried this? If so how was the installation process?
5000mah already lasts me 2-4 days but 6000mah would be really handy during heavy use days.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33047747490.html

Vicxx said:
Saw this aftermarket 6000mah battery for the 20X on aliexpress, good reviews all round (one review says it's 7500mah). Has anyone tried this? If so how was the installation process?
5000mah already lasts me 2-4 days but 6000mah would be really handy during heavy use days.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33047747490.html
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Here you go. The 1st link is a video teardown and the 2nd is a guide. You will need to apply some heat to open the cover. But a blow dryer may suffice. Buy T7000 glue to glue the cover back on. Its a very simple removal, not hard at all.
Huawei Mate 20 X Teardown
More power, more screen, more battery, more...
www.ifixit.com
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Vicxx said:
Saw this aftermarket 6000mah battery for the 20X on aliexpress, good reviews all round (one review says it's 7500mah). Has anyone tried this? If so how was the installation process?
5000mah already lasts me 2-4 days but 6000mah would be really handy during heavy use days.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33047747490.html
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it is fake

PhoneTechShop said:
it is fake
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How do you know? have you tried it?

Vicxx said:
How do you know? have you tried it?
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No these chinese companies trying lie to sell ... not just with these batteries but any other.. just peel of their label and u will see original 5000 huawei battery

I know some of them do lie but you can't go around saying ALL chinese companies and sellers are frauds. If you're going around making unsubstantiated claims with not even a shred of evidence no one will ever take you seriously again, at least not me.

Vicxx said:
I know some of them do lie but you can't go around saying ALL chinese companies and sellers are frauds. If you're going around making unsubstantiated claims with not even a shred of evidence no one will ever take you seriously again, at least not me.
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Is the battery bigger or thicker than orig ? u cannot make bigger mAh and keeping same size man think.com ...
download an app which detects battery capacity and let me know who was right ...
Or let me know how longer will phone last from charge than with original
Edit : I attached picture from your link and they claiming in description ''above 5000mAh'' How can you be so naive??
And 7000 ?? yeah right ... keep dreaming..
And one Russian (with bad english) left only 3 stars s the battery apparently is not any good .. Didn't understand quite what he was saying.. But 3 stars says it all

to be fair its not all just about size, there is a thing such as energy density, which is actually the most important factor in a battery's design
in general, i would advise caution when buying non-original batteries. at the same time, higher capacity in the same form factor is totally inside the realm of possibility.

jbmc83 said:
to be fair its not all just about size, there is a thing such as energy density, which is actually the most important factor in a battery's design
in general, i would advise caution when buying non-original batteries. at the same time, higher capacity in the same form factor is totally inside the realm of possibility.
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As I know about batteries. Li-ion batteries has best density
Speaking of cell density batteries there would have to be new design and new technology.
For more battery cells you obviously need larger battery ! THAT'S WHY Mate 20 X / Honor Note 10 battery is the largest from all.
Battery Size
Although higher-capacity batteries generally last longer than lower-capacity ones, they are not always suitable for use in every device. To achieve a higher capacity, battery makers often have to fit more cells into each battery. Cells are the parts of a battery in which the chemical reaction needed to generate electricity happens. Increasing a battery's cell count can in turn increase both the size and weight of the battery, making it unsuitable for use in slimline devices such as smaller cell phones and netbooks. The temperature and speed of electrical current discharge affects the overall capacity of the battery. Poorly made batteries often heat up too quickly resulting in performance issues or degraded capacity.
To calculate a battery's life, divide the capacity of the battery by the current required by the object it powers. For example, imagine that you have two batteries for your cell phone, one with a capacity of 1000 mAh and one with a capacity of 2000 mAh, and that your phone requires a current of 200 mA to function. The first battery would power the phone for five hours, as 1000 divided by 200 equals five. But the second battery would power the phone for ten hours, as it has double the capacity of the first. While a larger number indicates battery power, larger mAh batteries may not be better if it is a poor quality battery. It simply means it can store more power.
Cell phone battery life is heavily dependent on the way in which you use the phone. The more features you run at the same time on your phone, the more current your phone requires and the quicker the battery's capacity drains. This is why using WiFi or running complex games on your phone drains the battery quickly. As such, a battery with a high capacity that is used to power a smartphone might last for less time than a low-capacity battery that powers a basic device.