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NoDo - second half of March

http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011/03/09/official-nodo-coming-out-in-the-second-half-of-march/

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=985084&page=12

Tone_ said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=985084&page=12
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Yeah dude... it's so easy to find post 118 of that thread. The OP was right in posting this as it's own thread.

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I've bookmarked that link for those who, in a months time, insist on claiming there was never any set time frame. I should have done this with all of the other claims.
And if the page is somehow removed, I've copied it to paint.

MartyLK said:
I've bookmarked that link for those who, in a months time, insist on claiming there was never any set time frame. I should have done this with all of the other claims.
And if the page is somehow removed, I've copied it to paint.
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Eh, there never was an official announcement that showed anything before March but at this point I'm not defending Microsoft til they give reason. It's an amazing OS but if they're just going to string people along then it's definitely losing ground in my book.

z33dev33l said:
Eh, there never was an official announcement that showed anything before March but at this point I'm not defending Microsoft til they give reason. It's an amazing OS but if they're just going to string people along then it's definitely losing ground in my book.
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That's how I feel. But rationally thinking, why would a company handle business this way? It makes me think they are trying to iron out something completely unexpected; trying to capitalize on a sudden resource. I think once they finally do get past the first big update, things will go smoother and faster from then on. There's no rationality to a consumer oriented company (a company making efforts to be consumer oriented) putting off its customer base. There has to be a good reason for how things are going.
Maybe MS has its hands full of the carriers. Maybe the carriers are so badly locking down MS that they can't organize well enough. Too bad MS doesn't go with a single hardware market system and run with that. They would have complete control over the whole system, much like Apple does with the iPhone. Not saying it will happen, but speculatively speaking, MS just might be headed in that direction. If the carriers are, in fact, causing all the problems, MS might just get to a point where they will have had enough and discontinue multiple hardware support and focus on one specific handset...of their choosing. Then the carriers will get taught a valuable lesson.

90 days after CES, the date is right on time.

Windows Phone 7 is good OS but it is loosing grip because of the slow update... Same happened with Windows Mobile... Seems like M$ didn't learn from it... Well let's See how well M$ can keep up with the Android and IOS.... The Update that was supposed to released in Jan is Coming is End of March.... Such an Embarrassment......
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Windows Phone 7 is good OS but it is loosing grip because of the slow update... Same happened with Windows Mobile... Seems like M$ didn't learn from it... Well let's See how well M$ can keep up with the Android and IOS.... The Update that was supposed to released in Jan is Coming is End of March.... Such an Embarrassment......
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for the hundredth time no one at Microsoft said anything about January.

z33dev33l said:
for the hundredth time no one at Microsoft said anything about January.
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For the 100th time; Yes they did.

Yeah they actually did, they orginally said Jan/Feb.

EDDS said:
Yeah they actually did, they orginally said Jan/Feb.
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No, they didn't. The assumption was made because there was a webpage hosted that had "january_update" in the URL. Assumptions were then made.

They honestly did, I remember seing it directly from a microsoft employee, not some crappy little website.

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They honestly did, I remember seing it directly from a microsoft employee, not some crappy little website.
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Yeah, please do show some proof because I'm quite certain if that was the case it would've come up on some tech blog. All of which ive been following daily since months before the initial release of WP7. Microsoft made no official announcement aside from "Early 2011." From there they went on to say "The first 2 weeks of March." Finally we come to where we're at today.

It was supposed to have been released on the 7th, but was pulled - yet again. The latest date I have is the 22nd.
What irks me is that this update is still the same old build that's been ready for deployment since January.

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It was supposed to have been released on the 7th, but was pulled - yet again. The latest date I have is the 22nd.
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Where are you getting this information?

z33 is correct. Microsoft's only official announcment about the first update was Q1 2011. Which doesn't end until March 31st.
There were several rumors from various tech blogs about January and then February but nowhere has an official MS announcement been made on an exact day and/or time.
I've also been following about 10 or so tech blogs since about December.

it was always Q1 for the nodo and Q3 for the mango.... MS never give out dates... no one will give out dates for the updates come on...

emigrating said:
It was supposed to have been released on the 7th, but was pulled - yet again. The latest date I have is the 22nd.
What irks me is that this update is still the same old build that's been ready for deployment since January.
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And then when it comes out and has problems everyone will be crying about why they didn't beta test it more. Just relax people I want the update too but not enough to whine about it on the net. Just sayin'..

Got this in the mail...confusing?

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Does this mean I will be able to use my upgrade by December 31st? Or what? Kind of confusing. lol
P.S. I knew they were ending Premier, just didn't know if they'd give me an early upgrade or not.
Is everyone else getting this wording in their mail?

I thought it had been pretty well established that the "New For You" program was for employees only. Unless, of course, you are one.
Anyway, it does sound like that upgrade will be available to you up to 12/31/2012.
Wonder if that's for Gold only and if I can still go Gold somehow...

Yes, you have all of next year to use your upgrade. There is a short window where if you actually use the upgrade on 10/1/2011 or before, you'll have another upgrade 11-12 months later, at which point the subsequent upgrade will be 20 months later.

daneurysm said:
I thought it had been pretty well established that the "New For You" program was for employees only. Unless, of course, you are one.
Anyway, it does sound like that upgrade will be available to you up to 12/31/2012.
Wonder if that's for Gold only and if I can still go Gold somehow...
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I'm talking with a Rep. He stated that my upgrade is and still will be on 7/01/2012 after December 31st. Not sure why the wording was selected in this mail from Sprint. lol

sfhub said:
Yes, you have all of next year to use your upgrade. There is a short window where if you actually use the upgrade on 10/1/2011 or before, you'll have another upgrade 11-12 months later, at which point the subsequent upgrade will be 20 months later.
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Wait... Now I am confused. I'm a Premier Gold account, and I used my annual upgrade on 9/16 (phone activation on 9/22). I read the letter I got as "if I was eligible, I could use it until," but you imply that I may actually have one more upgrade next September?

Overstew maybe u caught wdm's attention
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Gold ppl get one last one up until dec 2012 once you use that then its 20 months.
I'm gold so I got it confirmed that I still have my upgrade for a year from now
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Oops. I read the entire thing wrong. LOL I thought it said December 2011. Now it all makes sense.

Dalmus said:
Wait... Now I am confused. I'm a Premier Gold account, and I used my annual upgrade on 9/16 (phone activation on 9/22). I read the letter I got as "if I was eligible, I could use it until," but you imply that I may actually have one more upgrade next September?
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Sorry I misread the original letter. If you are *already* qualified for your Premier Gold upgrade, and you use it by 10/1, you'll get 1 more premier upgrade at 11-12 months, after which you'll be on the 20 month upgrade cycle. If you don't use or don't qualify until after 10/1, then after your next upgrade, you'll be on the 20 month upgrade cycle.
The OP doesn't qualify until next year, so this doesn't apply to him.

I know this is an old thread, but we are now into 2012 where previous Gold members should be getting their last upgrade. Sprint refuses to give me mine unless I provide this letter. Has anyone else had trouble with using your last upgrade before the end of this year?
According to this FAQ, it's clear to me that I still get an upgrade since I did the last one in June 2011.
http://premier.sprint.com/premierupdate/faq.php

DeLorean thread!
Seriously though. Have you talked to retentions? That's the way I would go. Although I did hear that they have done away with retentions? There's a number floating around somewhere here with a number straight to retention center. I'm mobile so can't find it right now. Did you actually receive the letter like the OP? Or saying they won't do it because you didn't get it?
---Jay--- From the GNex

rbardos said:
I know this is an old thread, but we are now into 2012 where previous Gold members should be getting their last upgrade. Sprint refuses to give me mine unless I provide this letter. Has anyone else had trouble with using your last upgrade before the end of this year?
According to this FAQ, it's clear to me that I still get an upgrade since I did the last one in June 2011.
http://premier.sprint.com/premierupdate/faq.php
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According the my account on the website, I'm still eligible for an upgrade on 9/1/12, which is one year after I got my ET.
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Dalmus said:
According the my account on the website, I'm still eligible for an upgrade on 9/1/12, which is one year after I got my ET.
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Similar here. I got my E4GT last september and I'm eligible for an upgrade in 33 days according to the sprint store website. Don't remember the exact dates of the upgrade and when I got the phone, but it would be about a year apart.

I'm just hoping a new phone comes out that is actually worth using my upgrade... I do like the S3, but it's just not that big of a jump tech wise as I'd like if I'm going to be stuck for two years!
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I'd like another one of these letters, I got one last year and it said to use it by end of Dec 31st. Maybe another will come around.
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Verizon Rep: Launch is Thursday

Went to Verizon today and talked to a rep about the Nexus. He said he had gotten an email today stating that Thursday was the launch date. I asked if he had any in stock. He showed me a stack of 10 behind the counter, opened one and let me play with it - only while powered off. He wrote my name and number on a sticky , put it one one of the boxes, and said he would call me if anything changed but, barring that, he would see me Thursday at 10:00. Sweet!

I remember when a rep told me the release date was on the 9th. I've given up on when this phone will finally be released. Just hope it's soon already.

Yeah I stopped in one myself too. She had just had it out showing another guy so I messed around with it while we shot the ****. They still have the date set at the 15th, but I'm having a hard time believing it's going to come. We're 18 hours away from release and they still haven't told stores to put out demos, or even started advertising. The signs just aren't indicating the phone is imminent. I really hope it comes, but the pessimist in me is saying no way.

I still say we do a class action against Verizon for mental anguish

Joebroni said:
Yeah I stopped in one myself too. She had just had it out showing another guy so I messed around with it while we shot the ****. They still have the date set at the 15th, but I'm having a hard time believing it's going to come. We're 18 hours away from release and they still haven't told stores to put out demos, or even started advertising. The signs just aren't indicating the phone is imminent. I really hope it comes, but the pessimist in me is saying no way.
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~39 hours?
Sent from my samsung gt i9250 which is in the wrong state.

My Verizon store just called me regarding the nexus. I missed it and it went to voicemail and didn't leave any details but wanted me to call back if still interested.
Sounds good.
Plus demo units are supposed to go out tomorrow.
-sent from temp HTC Rezound waiting for Galaxy Nexus

player911 said:
My Verizon store just called me regarding the nexus. I missed it and it went to voicemail and didn't leave any details but wanted me to call back if still interested.
Sounds good.
-sent from temp HTC Rezound waiting for Galaxy Nexus
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back alley. 11PM. come alone.

pukemon said:
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Yeah lol. Movie had me distracted. Another thing, I haven't signed up for email lists before on a phone release, but shouldn't they be announcing to us that the phone is coming on X date, not the day of?

This is the internal email going around a couple sites from vzw about the 15th
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oh hell yeah, the white RAZR!!!... And looks like Savannah's in for a treat

Joebroni said:
Yeah lol. Movie had me distracted. Another thing, I haven't signed up for email lists before on a phone release, but shouldn't they be announcing to us that the phone is coming on X date, not the day of?
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I signed up for the email alert for the Droid Incredible, I got the email stating it was out 1 week after it's release date so I wouldn't count on that as a sign of release.

I hope that this turns out to be the biggest blunder in vzw history, I'm a loyal vzw customer but this is ridiculous. Maybe blame it on all the forums... who knows, but this thing is going to have so many bugs and then it will be a solid wave of nothing but complaining. Mark my word!!!!
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mrksbrd said:
I hope that this turns out to be the biggest blunder in vzw history, I'm a loyal vzw customer but this is ridiculous. Maybe blame it on all the forums... who knows, but this thing is going to have so many bugs and then it will be a solid wave of nothing but complaining. Mark my word!!!!
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I take it you weren't there for the Droid RAZR launch. they made the biggest deal out of that thing and pulled the whole 11/11/11 11AM bit. they had these red lines/dividers in front of the stores in anticipation of all these people showing up for it...
at my local Verizon no one was in line for it 5min before they opened and apparently didn't even sell any that day(most other stores were similiar to).

Joebroni said:
Yeah lol. Movie had me distracted. Another thing, I haven't signed up for email lists before on a phone release, but shouldn't they be announcing to us that the phone is coming on X date, not the day of?
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You'd think so. I signed up for Razr alerts as well. Got an alert the day it went on sale, not the day preorders started, not before, after the phone was already for sale they finally sent an email.

Lol. I texted him back and he said they just got word that its own Thursday.
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I keep getting mixed feelings about this. I get all hopeful that it will launch and then it doesn't. This is some pretty concrete evidence but we saw "definite" dates in Verizon's systems before. Just taking this with a grain of salt and hoping that we get an official OK from Verizon tomorrow.

I think someone loosened the cap on the salt shaker....and now there are grains of salt EVERYWHERE

As long as it comes out before the end of the year, why does it matter? They never stated anything more then that....
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Can any other rep confirm this ???? My source within Verizon can't....

mexiken said:
Can any other rep confirm this ???? My source within Verizon can't....
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i have confirmation that there is a 100% probability that it may be available on the 15th(possibly).

Galaxy Nexus Ban Temporarily Lifted

http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/6/31...porarily-suspended-while-appeals-court-issues
Now there's a temporary stay on the temporary injunction.

tempo-ception, it is.

good deal... now open sales back up so I can buy it!!

Kohawk09 said:
good deal... now open sales back up so I can buy it!!
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They're probably just gonna hold off until they can start selling them with 4.1. Its only gonna be a week anyway.

martonikaj said:
They're probably just gonna hold off until they can start selling them with 4.1. Its only gonna be a week anyway.
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Figured they might. Personally I'd like to just order it now, know i have it, then flash JB myself... Seems they announced they were going to start selling again when they had 4.1 ready to go... but that decision was made prior to this revelation. Business sense to me says just start selling again.

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Figured they might. Personally I'd like to just order it now, know i have it, then flash JB myself... Seems they announced they were going to start selling again when they had 4.1 ready to go... but that decision was made prior to this revelation. Business sense to me says just start selling again.
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They're selling so few of these things it really doesn't matter honestly. Sad, but true.
They said they'll resume selling next week, with 4.1 preloaded. We'll survive.

martonikaj said:
They're selling so few of these things it really doesn't matter honestly. Sad, but true.
They said they'll resume selling next week, with 4.1 preloaded. We'll survive.
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You're not the one walking around with an old ass flip phone because of this BS...

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You're not the one walking around with an old ass flip phone because of this BS...
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You'll still survive.

bozzykid said:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/6/31...porarily-suspended-while-appeals-court-issues
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That is not right. The verge must not have any lawyers on staff. The 9th Circuit issued two orders; 1) there will be no temporary stay on the tab 10.1, 2) before they act on the GNex (as in suspend the temporary injunction or not) they want a reply from Apple by July 12.
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That is not right. The verge must not have any lawyers on staff. The 9th Circuit issued two orders; 1) there will be no stay on the tab 10.1, 2) before they act on the GNex (as in suspend the temporary injunction or not) they want a reply from Apple by July 12.
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You're looking at the order for the tab not the one pertaining to the GN.

matt30 said:
That is not right. The verge must not have any lawyers on staff. The 9th Circuit issued two orders; 1) there will be no stay on the tab 10.1, 2) before they act on the GNex (as in suspend the temporary injunction or not) they want a reply from Apple by July 12.
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Actually they do have at least one writer that is a lawyer. And what is wrong with their article? They stated that Apple has to respond before the judge will decide on keeping the ban before trial.

Kohawk09 said:
Figured they might. Personally I'd like to just order it now, know i have it, then flash JB myself... Seems they announced they were going to start selling again when they had 4.1 ready to go... but that decision was made prior to this revelation. Business sense to me says just start selling again.
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Google isn't bound by the order, AFAIK. They are probably changing the firmware and didn't want people waiting / getting upset that the phone they ordered isn't shipping for another 3 weeks, so they took down the order form.

This whole thing is such a mess.
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Actually they do have at least one writer that is a lawyer. And what is wrong with their article? They stated that Apple has to respond before the judge will decide on keeping the ban before trial.
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I actually didn't read the verge article until just now.
But there are 2 stays at issue here. There's an immediate stay which lasts from today until whenever the court has an opportunity to read Apple's reply (2 weeks probably). Then there's a temporary stay pending appeal which would last from the end of any immediate stay until appeal (several months, maybe years).
The immediate stays were decided but the temporary stays were not.

The orders pertaining to the GN are broken into two parts as visible on the courts website. The part you snipped from the PDF was for the galaxy tab case which has a different court file number. If you'd actually read the one PDF included in the verge article and the other from the courts website you will see the article is correct. That the preliminary injunction pertaining to the galaxy nexus is temporarily stayed until apple responds by July 12th and until the court reviews the response and makes a decision.

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Google isn't bound by the order, AFAIK. They are probably changing the firmware and didn't want people waiting / getting upset that the phone they ordered isn't shipping for another 3 weeks, so they took down the order form.
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they are bound by the play store though. We could throw out 10 different scenarios, but its all speculation and assumptions. I'm just looking forward to a new device, so naturally impatient

IMHO, this is what Sammy/Google need to do...
Sell as many as possible at or just above cost to blow out as many units as possible before the ban takes effect again. I'm sure there would be quite a few sold along the way to the ban again... at least they could sell thru what ever inventory they might have. Just to get it into as many hands as possible. They could even ship them with IDs from the IO conference so Jelly Belly would be OTA automatically.
I dunno... don't want to sound like a fan boy but Apple would probably claim predatory pricing or something.

I placed my order in the play store on July 3rd...and just recently found out about this ban lol! Damn you apple for delaying my order!!

looks like its back for sale... but seems they adjusted the estimated shipping to "Ships when Available" when its in your cart..
O well, purchased and hopefully in the queue. Hopefully it will ship sooner than their estimate of 2-3 weeks.

Kohawk09 said:
looks like its back for sale... but seems they adjusted the estimated shipping to "Ships when Available" when its in your cart..
O well, purchased and hopefully in the queue. Hopefully it will ship sooner than their estimate of 2-3 weeks.
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That's sad for me, my friend leaves the US on 18th and he was gonna get it with him! I want the GNex so bad! Any suggestions?
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Jelly Bean coming soon?????

http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57488091-85/samsung-working-on-android-4.1-update-for-galaxy-s-iii/
Kinda promising.
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Hope the carriers dont add too much time to that
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I'm cautiously optimistic. When the international versions of the S3 got the update that provided the screen brightness fader on the notification bar, the Sprint version of that update appeared only 2 weeks later. Hope Sprint keeps the release schedule that tight.

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The GSM carriers will probably get it in quarter 3 and us in CDMA land may get it in quarter 4 if we're lucky
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Hope we get factory leaks like the Epic Touch did... it was great in we always had something new to test and bad in that it was ruining my life waiting for the next leak to be released
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My guess on when we get it? 8/15. That's when Samsung has their big event scheduled for... the one where, the rumors suggest, is the Note 10.1's coming-out party.
If I was Samsung, I think I could do worse than announcing Jellybean is now available for their flagship device (nominally of course- still would be a few days for the carrier rollout to occur).
In fact, if I was Samsung, I'd have my speaker up on stage, and right at the end I'd pull an "Oh, and one last thing...", you know, just to mess with Apple

Me too!
fzammetti said:
My guess on when we get it? 8/15. That's when Samsung has their big event scheduled for... the one where, the rumors suggest, is the Note 10.1's coming-out party.
If I was Samsung, I think I could do worse than announcing Jellybean is now available for their flagship device (nominally of course- still would be a few days for the carrier rollout to occur).
In fact, if I was Samsung, I'd have my speaker up on stage, and right at the end I'd pull an "Oh, and one last thing...", you know, just to mess with Apple
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LOL, I was thinking the same thing! I guess great minds think alike....

after the owning a samsung epic im staying away from hearsay about the updates because with samsung it could be a week or like 10 months from now.

metalblaster said:
after the owning a samsung epic im staying away from hearsay about the updates because with samsung it could be a week or like 10 months from now.
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fzammetti said:
My guess on when we get it? 8/15. That's when Samsung has their big event scheduled for... the one where, the rumors suggest, is the Note 10.1's coming-out party.
If I was Samsung, I think I could do worse than announcing Jellybean is now available for their flagship device (nominally of course- still would be a few days for the carrier rollout to occur).
In fact, if I was Samsung, I'd have my speaker up on stage, and right at the end I'd pull an "Oh, and one last thing...", you know, just to mess with Apple
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LOL, I was thinking the same thing! I guess great minds think alike....
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@hardy: love your signature man! Definitely one of my favorite movies :good:

Hehe, ditto... Sho'nuff!
FYI, my last three phones have been Samsungs, so I recognize that when it comes to updates and Samsung, optimism == insanity Still, I'm holding out hope that it'll be a LITTLE different this time around, at least as far as Jellybean goes.

I can confirm thst Sprint/Samsung have not made a Sprint jellybean build yet

It'll be very exciting when the update happens! Hopefully it'll occur some time before or right after the new iPhone gets released, so that I can still brag to my Apple friends how cool my phone is.
I worry that Samsung will strip out Google Now, replacing it entirely with S Voice. But I hope Samsung will come to their senses, or at least allow both side by side.

fezzle said:
It'll be very exciting when the update happens! Hopefully it'll occur some time before or right after the new iPhone gets released, so that I can still brag to my Apple friends how cool my phone is.
I worry that Samsung will strip out Google Now, replacing it entirely with S Voice. But I hope Samsung will come to their senses, or at least allow both side by side.
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Yeah Samsung should have both S-Voice and Google Now. That would be really cool.
I think that Sprint will delay this update. Look at the Samsung Nexus S 4G. Google released Jellybean for the global Nexus S and every other version of the Nexus S. Sprint has delayed the Jellybean update for the Nexus S 4G.

I came from the Evo3d with all the ics hype and they are just now getting that ****. After that mess I don't believe the talk anymore, but hopefully we do get this soon.
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I guess in Germany we´ll have to wait longer than that

master acehole said:
I can confirm thst Sprint/Samsung have not made a Sprint jellybean build yet
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As far as I can tell Sprint isn't doing ANY new development on S3 roms. The most recent RDF file I can find is for LG8

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As far as I can tell Sprint isn't doing ANY new development on S3 roms. The most recent RDF file I can find is for LG8
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Samsung went about 2 months without rdfs before we saw the first ics one on the s2. Also, they could be building it now, it just shows up on Sprints site when it's being tested.
Hopefully they're building it now and will have it being tested soon.
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metalblaster said:
after the owning a samsung epic im staying away from hearsay about the updates because with samsung it could be a week or like 10 months from now.
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Co-sign. I was burned a bit much with my OG Epic.

I think this is worth the wait