[Q] Can I disable 4g on a new phone and transfer it to my EVO? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've been using an EVO for about a year and a half on Cricket in order to save a few bucks. I'm now back in a better job and ready to go back to a better service provider.
If I sign up for Sprint and get a new device with WiMax 4G (do they still offer those?) is it possible to program my EVO to use the 4G service and use it as a dedicated connection at home and disable it on my new phone (I don't need 4G while out and about honestly)?

is it possible to program my EVO to use the 4G service and use it as a dedicated connection at home and disable it on my new phone (I don't need 4G while out and about honestly)?
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The only way to do this would be to use the new device as a hotspot, thus sharing the 4g with the Evo. There is no way of just "transferring" wimax keys from one device to another. However, if you are going to get a new device on Sprint, why not just re-activate the Evo with new service?

sitlet said:
The only way to do this would be to use the new device as a hotspot, thus sharing the 4g with the Evo. There is no way of just "transferring" wimax keys from one device to another. However, if you are going to get a new device on Sprint, why not just re-activate the Evo with new service?
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Well this EVO has a bad ESN as far as I know, which is why I got it for use on Cricket. However, I tried looking up the ESN on some site that supposedly can check it and it said it was clear.
This phone is starting to age. It needs a new housing and the screen has gotten a few scratches. I wouldn't mind upgrading to a new phone at this point. It looks like Sprint still has WiMax devices so I'm good there. Maybe a Galaxy SII is in my future.
It looks like I can maybe get a new device and then once 4G is activated I can program the mac address of the 4G radio on the new phone into my EVO. I found some instructions that I think will do the trick:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1447615
It seems like people have successfully transferred/shared 4G service between devices before. I think all I need to do is get aG service on a new device and then once that MAC is in Sprint's system change my EVO's 4G mac to that of the new phone. It doesn't look like I need to swap RSA keys between devices. This explains why you can do something like make your EVO 4G work with Clearwire's 4G simply by getting your MAC into their system.

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[Q] Change wimax settings for carrier other than Sprint?

Thinking about getting an EVO 4g and wondering if there are any roms, or other ways to get to the Wimax settings so I can change them from Sprint to a local company?
On another note I would be flashing this to work with PagePlus, but I think that is beside the point of my main question.
I'm 99% sure there is no wimax roaming, the radio in the evo is set to only receive sprint's signal.
You can change using ##data# if u have ur MSL, but then again u would only be able to change it if u have an account with Clear (or is it Clearwire?)
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desertegl said:
You can change using ##data# if u have ur MSL, but then again u would only be able to change it if u have an account with Clear (or is it Clearwire?)
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
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Same thing basically. And not like you could switch to roam on verizon, because they use LTE, different technology with frequencies.
Hey,
Just like Teh said,
The evo uses wimax to give us 4g, only the big name networks are getting 4g right now and even that is all going to be running off an lte network because it is going to be fast better range and more reliable, sprint even ditched wimax technology and if you dont have 4g coverage now most likely you will never get wimax coverage, sprint decided to go to the lte as well just for easy of use.
Now while this sucks for us evo users :/ it is good in the long run because since lte is a certain frequency and many cell companies are using it now it should mean for a stronger more reliable 4g network in due time! as long as sprint does things right that is!
I hope I helped if I did please hit the thanks button!
Stevo
Guys please please read the entire post or atleast read it till you understand.
He wants to know if he can switch to a LOCAL Company. OTHER COMPANIES besides sprint and clear/clearwire offer WiMAX just using different settings to connect to their services.
He doesn't want to roam.
He wants to connect his phone probably using an account with the other company...
cmsjr123 said:
Guys please please read the entire post or atleast read it till you understand.
He wants to know if he can switch to a LOCAL Company. OTHER COMPANIES besides sprint and clear/clearwire offer WiMAX just using different settings to connect to their services.
He doesn't want to roam.
He wants to connect his phone probably using an account with the other company...
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Exactly. Local company. I don't care about Sprint/Verizon/ATT 4G.
stevovanburen said:
Hey,
Just like Teh said,
The evo uses wimax to give us 4g, only the big name networks are getting 4g right now and even that is all going to be running off an lte network because it is going to be fast better range and more reliable, sprint even ditched wimax technology and if you dont have 4g coverage now most likely you will never get wimax coverage, sprint decided to go to the lte as well just for easy of use.
Now while this sucks for us evo users :/ it is good in the long run because since lte is a certain frequency and many cell companies are using it now it should mean for a stronger more reliable 4g network in due time! as long as sprint does things right that is!
I hope I helped if I did please hit the thanks button!
Stevo
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Sprint is adding LTE finally!
So basically there's no way to get the EVO on a wimax network other than Sprint's? Just to clarify...
Evo 4G wimax with local providor
hello
I'm interested into this subject too,
we have a local Wimax company here in Libya and I'd like to edit my Evo 4G's Wimax settings and insert the Local CO.'s data,
I rooted my Evo 4G (thanks to you XDA-Developers)
I could get into the wimax by ##3282# menu
the 3 main things that are needed to change from Sprint (I guess) are :
User name
Password
Wimax certificate
and I don't think that the Hardware's frequencies are editable (but I'm not quite sure)
anyway...the ##3282# menu didn't help and there's no way that I can put my local CO.'s certificate.
do you know what system files that contain the Wimax data and where to find them?
thanks
Hishamds said:
hello
I'm interested into this subject too,
we have a local Wimax company here in Libya and I'd like to edit my Evo 4G's Wimax settings and insert the Local CO.'s data,
I rooted my Evo 4G (thanks to you XDA-Developers)
I could get into the wimax by ##3282# menu
the 3 main things that are needed to change from Sprint (I guess) are :
User name
Password
Wimax certificate
and I don't think that the Hardware's frequencies are editable (but I'm not quite sure)
anyway...the ##3282# menu didn't help and there's no way that I can put my local CO.'s certificate.
do you know what system files that contain the Wimax data and where to find them?
thanks
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see this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1447615
you can set it up on another network. i checked and in my area there is no winmax so this is no help to me but if you got clearwire service then i think you can do it.?

Porting the Epic to Republic Wireless?

Hey, all. I recently got a notification that I'd receive an invite to Republic Wireless next week. For anyone who doesn't know what this is, it's the best thing that has happened to me:
http://republicwireless.com/
The only issue is, the only phone they have for it right now is some crappy LG Android phone. Startup Fee is also $200, as you need to buy their phone. I was wondering...I will obviously need to port the 3g/MMS settings over to my Epic, along with other things...but what else would I need to do? I assume they have their own software to use Wifi for calls, but I really haven't heard about anyone looking into this. I mean...$20 a month for unlimited everything when within WiFi, and outside of wifi you have a soft limit using Sprint's towers (depends on how much you use within wifi). Verizon and Sprint charge rape, so I'd like to get away from them as soon as possible.
Edit: Just thought about it. Will have to get the PRL from the phone. It's the LG Optimus. It probably wont be a big deal to get it. Since it's an Android phone...do you guys think I could get the package that allows wifi calling somehow from the phone? All speculation until I actually get it, of course.
TPMJB said:
Hey, all. I recently got a notification that I'd receive an invite to Republic Wireless next week. For anyone who doesn't know what this is, it's the best thing that has happened to me:
The only issue is, the only phone they have for it right now is some crappy LG Android phone. Startup Fee is also $200, as you need to buy their phone. I was wondering...I will obviously need to port the 3g/MMS settings over to my Epic, along with other things...but what else would I need to do? I assume they have their own software to use Wifi for calls, but I really haven't heard about anyone looking into this. I mean...$20 a month for unlimited everything when within WiFi, and outside of wifi you have a soft limit using Sprint's towers (depends on how much you use within wifi). Verizon and Sprint charge rape, so I'd like to get away from them as soon as possible.
Edit: Just thought about it. Will have to get the PRL from the phone. It's the LG Optimus. It probably wont be a big deal to get it. Since it's an Android phone...do you guys think I could get the package that allows wifi calling somehow from the phone? All speculation until I actually get it, of course.
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The LG Optimus probably has something similar to the Sprint's Connections Optimizer pre-installed to prefer Wi-Fi over 3G, so I imagine you could root the Optimus and copy from /system/app/ and try to install it on your Epic. Would Wi-Fi calling be integrated into the dialer somehow? You'd have to do some poking around to see how they integrated VoIP into the phone.
To make your Epic work properly, you would need to do what many Boost/Virgin users have already done to flash their phones to a different carrier. Copy MEID and the usual NAM programming including MMS gateway, data usernames and passwords, HDR auth keys, etc.
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Another XDA user made a dump of the Republic's Optimus, so you can have a look.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1460996
It's interesting to see Republic using a modified version of CyanogenMod 7.
By the time you sign up for the service this summer there will be a second phone option. It is expected to be a much better option than the Optimus. I'll probably be jumping on the new phone unless it is ridiculous $$$ (currently have RW).
Look how much time has past and the best phone is a Dumb Motorola Defy with only one band and the next phone is a Defy Dual band. I think they have an amazing idea but the must make a way to port a sprint phone and download and app tha flashes the phone to there service. But i heard you can tether so it the cheapest wireless hotspot with true unlimited internet. Not sure if its 4G or 3G ?
PaceyPimps said:
Look how much time has past and the best phone is a Dumb Motorola Defy with only one band and the next phone is a Defy Dual band. I think they have an amazing idea but the must make a way to port a sprint phone and download and app tha flashes the phone to there service. But i heard you can tether so it the cheapest wireless hotspot with true unlimited internet. Not sure if its 4G or 3G ?
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Uh, you can't tether. Your "limits" are based on how much you actually use the phone. If you just eat up your data and don't use wifi, they'll drop you. I got the Motorola Defy, found out it was SIGNIFICANTLY worse than even my Samsung Epic (e.g. I could not text because I had no cell signal and texts are not done through wifi), and dropped them like a bad habit. I love the idea. The follow-through is terrible.
Anyone have any progress on this? I have an Epic Touch 4G and would like to use it with Republic. I'm sure I could get one of their phones as a donor and put the meid in the ET4G (already did this successfuly with Virgin and another Sprint MNVO I can't remember atm) and then have it working on their network. The difference here is we would need the part of the software that handles the automatic switch from wifi to phone calling. Is it some modified voip software? I have wifi calling on my ET4G with Grooveip or Talkatone but they both have lag. Unusable.
This is not the Epic Touch forum. You might want to ask there.
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Well I'm still curious if anyone has done this with an epic 4G then. Whatever progress is made with that phone, I could apply to mine.
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[Q] What can The Epic be flashed too?

Hi a friend of mine wants to trade his Epic 4g Touch for my Evo Shift. I'm pretty sure it's worth the trade but before I do I wanna know what's possible on it first.
What all carrier(s) can the Epic be flashed to?
What's the best performing/fastest carrier available?
And is the flashing process easy?
Thanks in advance
tmb04 said:
Hi a friend of mine wants to trade his Epic 4g Touch for my Evo Shift. I'm pretty sure it's worth the trade but before I do I wanna know what's possible on it first.
What all carrier(s) can the Epic be flashed to?
What's the best performing/fastest carrier available?
And is the flashing process easy?
Thanks in advance
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First he's either trading off a bad device or doesn't understand his E4GT is superior in all ways to the Evo Shift.
Get the ESN and call Sprint to make sure it's clean.
Make sure he hasn't damaged it in any way, internal or external.
There are several Galaxy SII's so check the model number. Ours is SPH-D710 which I think can only be supported by Sprint, although it seems like there's a post somewhere about flashing it to Boost and US Cellular. (Found the links)
For flashing to Boost
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419488
For flashing to US Cellular
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531303
Keep in mind phones that run on Sprint can not run on AT&T or Verizon networks. (I stand correct, thanks booksyx) apparently it can be flashed to Verizon.
Flashing on this phone is super easy so long as you read and follow all instructions and when in doubt, ask questions. There are several incredible ROMs currently for this phone of both Gingerbread and Ice Cream Sandwich flavors. Read in the development section to see for yourself.
The post above me has many incorrect statements.
The epic 4g touch can run on almost any CDMA network. I currently have mine running on Virgin Mobile. It can also be flashed to boost mobile, cricket, metro pcs, verizon, etc.
They key to getting it working on those networks is to have a donor phone where you can extract all the NAM keys, esn/meid, and data keys and flash them to the epic 4g touch. Really isnt to hard once you have all the keys to write them.
My epic 4g touch has everything working on virgin mobile. Calling/SMS/MMS/3g/Wimax. However you will have to go elsewhere for a wimax solution. Best part is I only pay $25 a month for all this!
The ESN is clean and it's also relatively new. Not 100% sure what the exact model is but i'll find out when he gets off work.
The whole reason he's making the trade is because EVO is his favorite phone. He was going to trade me his iPhone 4 for my EVO but then I found out that even if I flash the iPhone 4 that Data and MMS dont function fully. So I didnt want that.
But If the Epic is that much more superior that makes me want it more now, as long as I can get it fully functional on a prepaid service that is.
I wasn't aware there was so many different versions. Because he didnt tell me it was an Epic, all he said was Galaxy S II. So I ended up posting in the wrong forum. But his is Sprint though so everyone said it's an Epic 4g Touch.
That's good that it's relatively easy to flash. I personally prefer boost, but whatever is fully functional and runs the fastest
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Does every carrier require a donor phone to Flash to?
brooksyx said:
The post above me has many incorrect statements.
The epic 4g touch can run on almost any CDMA network. I currently have mine running on Virgin Mobile. It can also be flashed to boost mobile, cricket, metro pcs, verizon, etc.
They key to getting it working on those networks is to have a donor phone where you can extract all the NAM keys, esn/meid, and data keys and flash them to the epic 4g touch. Really isnt to hard once you have all the keys to write them.
My epic 4g touch has everything working on virgin mobile. Calling/SMS/MMS/3g/Wimax. However you will have to go elsewhere for a wimax solution. Best part is I only pay $25 a month for all this!
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Many incorrect? lol I see one (oh make that two, didn't know that about Verizon) and that's why I said thinks like *I think* as in I'm not 100% sure, just going on what I've recently read here on XDA.
Thanks for clarifying that though.

HTC Evo 4G Flash to Boost Mobile with 4G WiMAX working

I was wondering since Boost and Virgin Mobile now have Sprint's 4G WiMAX , how would I flash my Evo 4G over to Boost Mobile with the 4G WiMAX working?
ariellestarchild said:
I was wondering since Boost and Virgin Mobile now have Sprint's 4G WiMAX , how would I flash my Evo 4G over to Boost Mobile with the 4G WiMAX working?
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Its been talked about already, you'll need a 4G donor. Read to use the HTC Design 4G.
gellybelly said:
Its been talked about already, you'll need a 4G donor. Read to use the HTC Design 4G.
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that doesn't help me any maybe a link would help..........
ariellestarchild said:
that doesn't help me any maybe a link would help..........
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You don't need a link to figure that out. You needed a donor 3g boost mobile phone in order to flash any cdma phone over to 3g boost mobile. You will obviously need a 4g boost mobile phone in order to flash over any cdma phone over to 4g boost mobile.
ariellestarchild said:
I was wondering since Boost and Virgin Mobile now have Sprint's 4G WiMAX , how would I flash my Evo 4G over to Boost Mobile with the 4G WiMAX working?
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Yea I think you would need to buy the HTC EVO Design 4g use the stuff you used to flash you EVO 4g to boost mobile. This is just an idea after you are done with the HTC EVO Design 4g return it.
If u return the phone and somebody buys it and turns it on, won't that scramble the data
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If u return the phone and somebody buys it and turns it on, won't that scramble the data
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Yea if you use the donor and return it you'll be screwed once someone else buys that phone and turns on the 4g unless you find a way to scramble that phones wimax address.... there has to be another way to do this besides using a donor for is wimax mac address..
whitmerray said:
Yea if you use the donor and return it you'll be screwed once someone else buys that phone and turns on the 4g unless you find a way to scramble that phones wimax address.... there has to be another way to do this besides using a donor for is wimax mac address..
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I wonder if those WiMax MAC addresses are anything like ESN/MeIDs in a sense they are close numerically to other similar phones on the same network. That is the only way I can think it would work but that is highly illegal in this case.
From my understanding
You don't necessarily need a 4g donor or anything just change your mac address to a SPRINT WORKING MAC ADDRESS on your phone.
I remember when I first started doing cable modems in vegas this is how we used to get on the network, we used to clone mac addresses from modems by fishing them and then we flashed them on a modem and voila
I don't think that sprint is provisioning the 4g mac addresses like that but using a friends wimax mac address as your own can work, don't ask me how to do this as I don't know with HTC evo I have it on my e4gt flashed to boost and I did it by ##33284# ##debug# lol dont know if that's right on the numbers.
But yeah just borrow a friends mac address and change it to that turn on your 4g and GG!
4g on boost help
well i still havent figure it out, i bought the evo design from boost so i can have 4g, i dont like the cell phone at all, is too tiny compare to evo 4g or galaxy s2, so i flash it to the galaxy s2 like everybody knows now days and also change the wimax mac address from the design in to the galaxy change the realm and it worked!! I have 3g and 4g working with everything messagesand internet, now i tryed the same with the evo 4g change the wimax mac address and the realm same like i did on the galaxy but it didnt work, so question: anybody knows how to make 4g to work on evo4g with the evodesign 4g as donor?
You need more than just the MAC, also needed is the proper NAI and user name to the MAC address.

[Q] EPIC TOUCH 4g flashed to boost, how to activate 4g?

Now that boost mobile is offering 4g service does anyone have any idea how to get the wimax address from my epic touch 4g on boostmobile's network? Its already flashed to boost with everything working but the 4g service
Update i called boost mobile and they wont do it. The rep said that you have to have the evo design ESN in order for their system to allow the input of a wimax address.....
whitmerray said:
Update i called boost mobile and they wont do it. The rep said that you have to have the evo design ESN in order for their system to allow the input of a wimax address.....
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Thanks for the update I was curious about this myself.
whitmerray said:
Update i called boost mobile and they wont do it. The rep said that you have to have the evo design ESN in order for their system to allow the input of a wimax address.....
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This is what i did, it was pretty easy. I wanted to know if my company air card 4g mac address would work, so I edited the 4g mac. I was able to connect but when I surfed I was redirected to a page to call a number.
Then I call my friend who has a Epic Touch on Sprint and he gave me his mac, so again I edited the 4g mac...and guess what..."BAMMMM" I was able to connect and surf with no redirect what so ever.
Now it might be a build.prop thing on the aircard mac and that might be why I was not able to surf only connect.
So if you have a friend that has a Epic Touch 4g on sprint and is willing to share the 4g mac then you will have no issues.
Where and how do you edit the MAC address?
Sent from my ET4G
Unknown Zone said:
This is what i did, it was pretty easy. I wanted to know if my company air card 4g mac address would work, so I edited the 4g mac. I was able to connect but when I surfed I was redirected to a page to call a number.
Then I call my friend who has a Epic Touch on Sprint and he gave me his mac, so again I edited the 4g mac...and guess what..."BAMMMM" I was able to connect and surf with no redirect what so ever.
Now it might be a build.prop thing on the aircard mac and that might be why I was not able to surf only connect.
So if you have a friend that has a Epic Touch 4g on sprint and is willing to share the 4g mac then you will have no issues.
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Yea but that's still not an E4GT with really cheap 4g service on boost mobile. The obvious way around this problem is to buy an evo design register it with your account then get put that esn and wimax addy on a e4gt and break the evo design and return it for ins, it will be recycled and all will be saved.... but that's not quite kosher(legal) so i don't advise anyone to do that ever.
Or just buy an EVO Design (once they go cheaper on ebay) and do what you said but if you keep the phone it's Kosher. Ultimately the EVO Design becomes you donor phone. I bought a donor phone from ebay to get my ET4G working on Virgin Mobile.
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Yea that'd be a good idea, or buy like a broken evo design and just use that... as long as you can still access the phone via pc you should be able to get all the info and a cheaper price on the phone.
Would it have to be a Virgin branded one? Also I am wondering if I would have to actually activate the new EVO Design & then put those settings in my ET4G or just keep my ET4G active & enter the MAC settings from the EVO into my ET4G & get Wimax that way. I just don't want to give up my $25 grandfathered plan!
whitmerray said:
Yea that'd be a good idea, or buy like a broken evo design and just use that... as long as you can still access the phone via pc you should be able to get all the info and a cheaper price on the phone.
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wow that is a lot of work to get 4g buy a phone then break it..etc.., I would just ask a friend like I did...but what ever floats your boat.
I just wished the 4g coverage was really some thing to take advantage of, as for me I will maybe connect 5 times a year if that when I am in a 4g area. It is nice to have if you are in coverage and can really use it.
Only wished my damn phone would accept my Mac id from my clear wire wifi modem. Any ideas to why it won't even give me the option to set it?
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And how do we do this
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA
Well first of all this doesn't float my boat but I am not fortunate enough to have a friend with a Virgin Wimax phone. If I did, I wouldn't have posted on here.
Second of all, I wasn't the one talking about buying a phone & breaking it...
Third of all. can you give me your friends MAC address??
Unknown Zone said:
wow that is a lot of work to get 4g buy a phone then break it..etc.., I would just ask a friend like I did...but what ever floats your boat.
I just wished the 4g coverage was really some thing to take advantage of, as for me I will maybe connect 5 times a year if that when I am in a 4g area. It is nice to have if you are in coverage and can really use it.
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Update i called boost mobile and they wont do it. The rep said that you have to have the evo design ESN in order for their system to allow the input of a wimax address.....
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While the rep may have been confused by your question, this raises a question of my own. Would they be able to alter the associated WiMax MAC address on their end if you were using a Boost branded Evo Design as a "donor"?
It wouldn't do anything to alleviate needing a $299 donor phone, but it would open the door to using other HTC 4G phones on Boost with working WiMax.
I can confirm that the Epic Touch will get functional 4G on Boost if an Evo Design is used as a donor, the WiMax MAC address is repaired and the realm is changed to myboostmobile.sprintpcs.com.
I highly doubt boost would change the wimax addy on their end to a non evo wimax addy. They probably could change it on their end but doubt they would, even though half those people you talk to are f*c*ing idiots.

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