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When I install a rom with stock recovery (CM9 alpha 2 for instance), how do I get back the custom recovery in order to update the rom to the next version without having to use Odin to get back to an older rom with a custom recovery and wipe my data, then install the new version of the rom I want. Is there a better way to do this?
Use Auto Root, Mobile Odin, or Odin to install GB-based CWM.
iamamutt said:
When I install a rom with stock recovery (CM9 alpha 2 for instance), how do I get back the custom recovery in order to update the rom to the next version without having to use Odin to get back to an older rom with a custom recovery and wipe my data, then install the new version of the rom I want. Is there a better way to do this?
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Don't use any of the ics kernels repacked with rogue or cwm unless you hate your phone and need some bricks around the house
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Go into download mode and use Odin into EL29 or EL26 you can do it for any ROMs that don't come with cwm recovery
Epic touch phone of xXHELLBoy91Xx
I keep an MD5 of a stock rooted EL29 and gunslinger kernel on my SD card and just use Odin Pro to flash it all at once from my phone. When thats done, just CWM back into recovery and flash whatever new rom you want.
Okay I found this from the blog post:
Stock android recovery is still being used in the ROM. This is for your protection, so you don't brick your phone due to all the people whom have flashed an ICS kernel, bricking when flashing a rom, wiping, etc. If you would like to backup or restore, or do any flashing, please go back to an ELXX gingerbread kernel, and do it from there.
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Does this mean I can just flash future upgrades through the stock recovery if I already have alpha 2 installed?
Sorry bit isn't there a video and full write up on the first page on what to do. Just follow OP directions all will be well.
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iamamutt said:
Okay I found this from the blog post:
Does this mean I can just flash future upgrades through the stock recovery if I already have alpha 2 installed?
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No it means cwm is bricking phones on ics kernels so it will not be included in the ROM until it's fixed ....if you want to do anything flash a GB kernel with cwm el26 ...it won't boot ics so go right into recovery
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Been running Blend from Team Noc for a bit and having a lot of core crashes, as well as some issues with notifications, etc. So I installed Blend 6.0 this morning and still had problems so wanted to try something else while those issues get fixed.
I went into recovery and this is a new recov I have never seen. It simply shows the android, then the following;
Android System Recovery <3e>
I was going to wipe using Caulk's and install another ICS ROM, so went to apply update from external storage (since that was the only option that made sense). Went to the folder they were, selected the format all and it took me back to the android guy on his back with a triangle!
So I am kinda stuck with this ROM unless I can get cqm back on (I guess). There are just so many threads that are out there, some old, some new, the sg2 has 5 flavors it seems based on the carrier (I am on sprint) so from what I can tell, it's the 4G touch.
Thanks to all read/replies.
use odin, instructions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1609255
Just use mobile odin and select the tar file w/recovery. You tried to boot into recovery without a recovery installed which is why it looked funny.
Thanks guys. I followed the 1st post (as I didn't see the 2nd) and ran the step's using a windows machine. Odin saw the device, flashed it, all green, success, and restarted.
Followed up with the quick root/CWM app and worked like a charm. I am back to square one now, did install Venum Ice RC3.1.1 which looked pretty clean, but 1st thing I noticed was anything that uses the media card doesn't work (camera for example). You hit it, returns you to the app drawer.
So, with what's out there right now, what seems to be the most stable with the basic's, (phone, data, camera, etc.)
Thanks again, was well worth the wait to do it correctly!
I've been using CM9A3 as my everyday from. Solid as a rock. I have 0 issue.
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I'd say it was official if I did not know any better.
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I am also on Team Noc's The Goodness Version 6 without a custom recovery, and have a similar question. In that thread they were discussing using Odin to flash a kernel with CM, and they posted two kernals one that is the FD02 (ICS) and the other is EL29 (GB). I am currently on an ICS rom that works with the newly flashed FD02 kernal. However, my question is while on ICS can I odin to the GB recovery kernal so that I can flash a different GB rom? I am nervous to try because I have heard of people bricking going from ICS to GB, but if this works it would make my life easier as a flashaholic
Mastershake725 said:
I am also on Team Noc's The Goodness Version 6 without a custom recovery, and have a similar question. In that thread they were discussing using Odin to flash a kernel with CM, and they posted two kernals one that is the FD02 (ICS) and the other is EL29 (GB). I am currently on an ICS rom that works with the newly flashed FD02 kernal. However, my question is while on ICS can I odin to the GB recovery kernal so that I can flash a different GB rom? I am nervous to try because I have heard of people bricking going from ICS to GB, but if this works it would make my life easier as a flashaholic
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Use Mobile Odin to flash EL26+cwm kernel( http://db.tt/0QJkleJR ), hold volume^+power to boot into cwm wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvick, flash rom, flash gapps, and reboot. People brick from using a ICS recovery to go back from certain ROMs. EL26+cwm is always the safest choice to flash with.
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Mastershake725 said:
I am also on Team Noc's The Goodness Version 6 without a custom recovery, and have a similar question. In that thread they were discussing using Odin to flash a kernel with CM, and they posted two kernals one that is the FD02 (ICS) and the other is EL29 (GB). I am currently on an ICS rom that works with the newly flashed FD02 kernal. However, my question is while on ICS can I odin to the GB recovery kernal so that I can flash a different GB rom? I am nervous to try because I have heard of people bricking going from ICS to GB, but if this works it would make my life easier as a flashaholic
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Yes you can mobile odin the el26 repack with cwm (not the rogue one) I believe its still at the top of the Nocturnal Venum rom thread. Flash in cwm and as it boots hold down the volume and power buttons. It should boot into the blue cwm. Flash whatever you want. Or mobile odin the el26 repack cwm and as it reboots hold the same buttons down to boot into recovery and flash away. El29 doesnt have a cwm repack (its rogue and not what you need). Keep in mind that mobile odin WILL NOT flash modem so dont try it.
Edit: The post above says basically the same thing. DO NOT use el29 kernel. Just reminding you...
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Yes you can mobile odin the el26 repack with cwm (not the rogue one) I believe its still at the top of the Nocturnal Venum rom thread. Flash in cwm and as it boots hold down the volume and power buttons. It should boot into the blue cwm. Flash whatever you want. Or mobile odin the el26 repack cwm and as it reboots hold the same buttons down to boot into recovery and flash away. El29 doesnt have a cwm repack (its rogue and not what you need). Keep in mind that mobile odin WILL NOT flash modem so dont try it.
Edit: The post above says basically the same thing. DO NOT use el29 kernel. Just reminding you...
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Thanks for the quick response! Just a clarification, I do have the el26+CWM (el29 was a typo). Lets say I want to leave ICS for another rom, and a use mobile odin to go back to el26 and accidentally boot into my ICS sandwich rom. Is there any potential risk of bricking there? Also, what is the significance of flashing a modem? I already have an EL29 modem and I am happy with the current setup, do most roms/kernals have baked in modems? And if so should I avoid them when using odin?
Mastershake725 said:
Thanks for the quick response! Just a clarification, I do have the el26+CWM (el29 was a typo). Lets say I want to leave ICS for another rom, and a use mobile odin to go back to el26 and accidentally boot into my ICS sandwich rom. Is there any potential risk of bricking there? Also, what is the significance of flashing a modem? I already have an EL29 modem and I am happy with the current setup, do most roms/kernals have baked in modems? And if so should I avoid them when using odin?
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You can't boot into a ICS ROM on el26 it is a GB kernel. Every ROM I have used has baked in kernel but no modem. Any modem for e4gt will work with any ROM. Kernels are GB and ICS specific.
Edit:el26+cwm is juts safer to flash ICS ROMs/kernels. When you flash a ROM it will replace the kernel. Just use mobile odin to flash back to el26+cwm to flash new ROMs/modems(wiping like usuall). If changing modem just flash el26+cwm, wipe cache/dalvik, flash modem of choice, and flash ICS kernel of choice. Reboot.
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You can't boot into a ICS ROM on el26 it is a GB kernel. Every ROM I have used has baked in kernel but no modem. Any modem for e4gt will work with any ROM. Kernels are GB and ICS specific.
Edit:el26+cwm is juts safer to flash ICS ROMs/kernels. When you flash a ROM it will replace the kernel. Just use mobile odin to flash back to el26+cwm to flash new ROMs/modems(wiping like usuall). If changing modem just flash el26+cwm, wipe cache/dalvik, flash modem of choice, and flash ICS kernel of choice. Reboot.
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Thanks for the tips that makes a lot of sense! I am gaining confidence of going between ICS & GB. Now is it the same process for roms like AOKP, MIUI, and CM7/9? I have heard they also need specific recoveries to operate correctly.
Yes, el26cwm only and they only use aosp kernels. I believe T.C.P. has them on one of his threads.
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So I finally made the jump to 4.0.4. Mijjah74's "slim n trim" to be precise... Install went great, rom is awesome, I just can't find any information on how to update to the latest version! Do I just go back to el26? Can I "just" go back to el26? If anybody can provide detailed instructions for a newb or at least point me in the right direction I would really appreciate it!
I follow instructions well, but I am clearly a rookie. My apologies if this is in the wrong section or if this has been covered 1,000 times!
Yes, just mobile odin el26 with cwm. When the screen goes off hold power+volume up to boot into recovery, then wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvick, flash rom and reboot. Since it is AOKP based you need to use only el26 with cwm or you'll risk a brick.
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Yes, just mobile odin el26 with cwm. When the screen goes off hold power+volume up to boot into recovery, then wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvick, flash rom and reboot. Since it is AOKP based you need to use only el26 with cwm or you'll risk a brick.
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I have a similar question...when you say "just mobile Odin el26 with CWM", do you mean place that version of EL26 onto the SD card?
-Ben
b7labelle said:
I have a similar question...when you say "just mobile Odin el26 with CWM", do you mean place that version of EL26 onto the SD card?
-Ben
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Yes. I use internal sd, but mobile odin will find it on either. The safest way to flash to and from ICS is with el26 with official cwm. Everything since el26 including el29 have rogue repacks. The rogue repacks do work, but you run a risk of bricking. Better to be safe than to have bricked phone. Just remember ICS won't boot with el26, so you have to boot into recovery as soon as it starts to reboot. Wipe data/factory reset, wipe both cache and dalvick cache, flash ROM and reboot.
Here is direct link yo el26 with cwm: http://db.tt/0QJkleJR
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SSickLS2 said:
So I finally made the jump to 4.0.4. Mijjah74's "slim n trim" to be precise... Install went great, rom is awesome, I just can't find any information on how to update to the latest version! Do I just go back to el26? Can I "just" go back to el26? If anybody can provide detailed instructions for a newb or at least point me in the right direction I would really appreciate it!
I follow instructions well, but I am clearly a rookie. My apologies if this is in the wrong section or if this has been covered 1,000 times!
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I have a similar question...when you say "just mobile Odin el26 with CWM", do you mean place that version of EL26 onto the SD card?
-Ben
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Just use the same instructions on how you got on slim in the first place. It is the only way to flash a AOKP based rom. The ONLY thing you may do when you update from slim to a newer slim is the wipes. A clean install is best, bit no data wiping has worked also.
All in all listen to killaphatboy, he knows what he is talking about, been running our rooms long enough.
Thanks for the help guys!
I am watching a qbking77 "how to" video on flashing the EL26 tar and he mentions you have to be on a Gingerbread rom before you flash to EL26... Does this pertain to m situation since I am just updating to a newer version of of the same rom?
I understand that the update process is the same as the install, but going back to EL29 and reinstalling CWM, just to flash EL26 makes me think that I am performing some unnecessary steps.
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I am watching a qbking77 "how to" video on flashing the EL26 tar and he mentions you have to be on a Gingerbread rom before you flash to EL26... Does this pertain to m situation since I am just updating to a newer version of of the same rom?
I understand that the update process is the same as the install, but going back to EL29 and reinstalling CWM, just to flash EL26 makes me think that I am performing some unnecessary steps.
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You don't need to go back to anything. All you need to do is Odin the EL26 kernel and when it starts to reboot, push and hold power and volume up, that will put you right into recovery without booting into the rom. qbking77 is talking about booting into the from, which you do not need to do. Just push power+ volume up after your blue light flashes and before the splash screen ends.
Hi all, I'm new here (well, not to XDA) as I just purchased this phone 2 days ago. I love it so far. It's such and upgrade from my LG Optimus that I almost considered not rooting or flashing ROM's. Of course, I caved in last night.
Anyway, I have a couple questions regarding Odin and the process around flashing different kernels/modems, etc. Any help would be great. I successfully flashed Blue Kuban without issues as I'm familiar with CWM and all that great stuff.
1. Is there a good tutorial that I can use to do more research on Odin? I see there's a mobile version and a PC version, so I'm not sure which to use.
2. I see in some ROM's, the install instructions state to first flash a specific kernel with Odin. Is this to prevent bricks from flashing from ICS to ICS ROM's?
3. Hypothetically, if I wanted to switch from Blue Kuban to CM9 (or any other ICS ROM), couldn't I just restore my stock GB back up and then flash CM9 (or any other ICS ROM)? If not, what is the most user friendly method you use?
Thanks all, really glad I chose this phone, it looks like there's awesome development for it! Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Hi all, I'm new here (well, not to XDA) as I just purchased this phone 2 days ago. I love it so far. It's such and upgrade from my LG Optimus that I almost considered not rooting or flashing ROM's. Of course, I caved in last night.
Anyway, I have a couple questions regarding Odin and the process around flashing different kernels/modems, etc. Any help would be great. I successfully flashed Blue Kuban without issues as I'm familiar with CWM and all that great stuff.
1. Is there a good tutorial that I can use to do more research on Odin? I see there's a mobile version and a PC version, so I'm not sure which to use.
2. I see in some ROM's, the install instructions state to first flash a specific kernel with Odin. Is this to prevent bricks from flashing from ICS to ICS ROM's?
3. Hypothetically, if I wanted to switch from Blue Kuban to CM9 (or any other ICS ROM), couldn't I just restore my stock GB back up and then flash CM9 (or any other ICS ROM)? If not, what is the most user friendly method you use?
Thanks all, really glad I chose this phone, it looks like there's awesome development for it! Any help is greatly appreciated!
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1. OK for Odin, you can try searching for a tutorial on qbkings YouTube channel. Basically all you need to know is that the PDA slot is for kernels and such where as phone slot is for modems. Only have auto reboot checked in top right settings. Mobile Odin works the same way. You can flash kernels from there and can save you time and when you're away from a computer. It currently has problems flashing modems however. There is a paid and lite version which you can find here in xda if you search a bit.
2. Yes this is to prevent bricking which has been happening when wiping data/factory rest in custom recoveries repackaged in ICS kernels. This is why its recommended to go back to el26 because this is the last true source (we don't have ICS source yet) we had.
Whenever changing roms, you must Odin/mobile Odin the el26 cwm kernel and do any rom flashing, restoring, backing up from there. So if you want to switch to CM9 from the ICS version of Blue Kuban I'm assuming, Odin el26 cwm kernel and flash cm9+gapps there.
Anymore questions let me know
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Awesome, great info and I'll definitely pick up the mobile version. So it looks like I only need to flash the kernel, not actually flast a GB Rom?
The only other thing I'm wondering is if you recommend using the Rogue CWM Recovery. I have it installed right now. Are all ROMS compatible with this recovery?
Thanks again for your quick and helpful answer!
I personally use the rouge 1.4.1 kernel to do all my flashing. Rouge recovery is built from tweaking the cwm recovery. In essence, they are the same thing. Rouge has less "no's" and the menus are better organized, so I use it.
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Awesome, great info and I'll definitely pick up the mobile version. So it looks like I only need to flash the kernel, not actually flast a GB Rom?
The only other thing I'm wondering is if you recommend using the Rogue CWM Recovery. I have it installed right now. Are all ROMS compatible with this recovery?
Thanks again for your quick and helpful answer!
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Yea all you need is the kernel. If you're on an ICS rom when you flash the el26 cwm kernel, it won't boot your phone but you can go into recovery still.
I really wouldn't recommend any custom recovery at this time for ICS. I mean it takes maybe an extra minute odining the el26 cwm kernel or so instead of directly booting into rogue recovery. From there you can flash mods, tweaks, etc and then just reflash a compatible ICS kernel. What do you really need rogue for? Not worth the risk IMO.
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Yea all you need is the kernel. If you're on an ICS rom when you flash the el26 cwm kernel, it won't boot your phone but you can go into recovery still.
I really wouldn't recommend any custom recovery at this time for ICS. I mean it takes maybe an extra minute odining the el26 cwm kernel or so instead of directly booting into rogue recovery. From there you can flash mods, tweaks, etc and then just reflash a compatible ICS kernel. What do you really need rogue for? Not worth the risk IMO.
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Interesting. I'll have to read up more regarding Odin. So I could literally open Odin and plug my phone in and then flash the el26 kernel and flash whatever ROM I want from Odin as well? Sorry, a little confused there. Just not sure how I'd flash a ROM without a custom recovery.
Thanks again, I'll also check out some tutorials. I'm guessing it will feel like 2nd nature in a week, just learning the new process.
The recovery is built into the kernel for this device. I use odin, flash the el29 rouge kernel v1.4.1, when the phone resets after the flash, boot into recover using volume up and power, wipe, flash, whatever you want, make sure you reinstall ics rom or kernel if you are on ics and reboot.
Ah, so if I flash the EL26 Kernel, will that overwrite my Rogue Recovery?
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Interesting. I'll have to read up more regarding Odin. So I could literally open Odin and plug my phone in and then flash the el26 kernel and flash whatever ROM I want from Odin as well? Sorry, a little confused there. Just not sure how I'd flash a ROM without a custom recovery.
Thanks again, I'll also check out some tutorials. I'm guessing it will feel like 2nd nature in a week, just learning the new process.
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Well download whatever rom+mods/etc and put the files on your phone. Then just odin/mobile Odin the el26 cwm kernel and flash whatever you want from there, ICS or GB without no chance of a brick.
On our phone and I think most Samsung's for that matter, the recovery isnt separate from any other partition like with HTC. It must be packed into the kernel. So whenever you flash a rom, whatever recovery is packed in with that kernel included with the rom is what you're getting. Most devs are packing in stock Android recovery to cut down on bricks and instead recommend always flashing from el26 cwm kernel.
So yea that's what makes mobile Odin so great. Have el26 on your storage and you can switch roms very fast, easy, and safe.
Anymore questions just ask.
Edit: are you on GB or ICS Blue Kuban and what rogue also?
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Thanks, really good info. I'm on Blue Kuban ICS right now with Rogue CWM 5.0.2.7. Looks like Odin will be a very easy way once I get comfortable with it.
So basically, I'll put the kernel zip in the PDA slot in Odin and let it do its thing, then my phone will auto reboot into the kernel's recovery where I can flash the ROM? Or do I flash the kernel in Odin, and also flash the ROM in Odin as well?
mjs2011 said:
Thanks, really good info. I'm on Blue Kuban ICS right now with Rogue CWM 5.0.2.7. Looks like Odin will be a very easy way once I get comfortable with it.
So basically, I'll put the kernel zip in the PDA slot in Odin and let it do its thing, then my phone will auto reboot into the kernel's recovery where I can flash the ROM? Or do I flash the kernel in Odin, and also flash the ROM in Odin as well?
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Odin is just used to flash the safe el26 cwm kernel onto your phone. It will auto reboot and just hang at the Galaxy S II screen since the GB kernel can't boot an ICS rom so just power+volume up into it. Hold it for maybe up to 15 seconds but it'll come around. You then flash the rom in recovery from there. So put you rom files, etc on your phone before you Odin the kernel.
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Odin is just used to flash the safe el26 cwm kernel onto your phone. It will auto reboot and just hang at the Galaxy S II screen since the GB kernel can't boot an ICS rom so just power+volume up into it. Hold it for maybe up to 15 seconds but it'll come around. You then flash the rom in recovery from there. So put you rom files, etc on your phone before you Odin the kernel.
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oh ok sweet. That sounds pretty easy, actually! LOL! One last question hopefully, do I need to extract the kernel zip or do I just place the zip in the PDA slot?
Thanks again for your help today. It really cleared a bunch of questions I had.
mjs2011 said:
oh ok sweet. That sounds pretty easy, actually! LOL! One last question hopefully, do I need to extract the kernel zip or do I just place the zip in the PDA slot?
Thanks again for your help today. It really cleared a bunch of questions I had.
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Kernels flashed through PDA slot in Odin will be in either .tar or tar.md5 format, .zips are for cwm recovery only. You can find the el26 cwm kernel in the kernel repository sticky in dev section, its the first kernel listed. No problem, glad to help.
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or u can use the 34gt auto
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Thanks again everyone. I successfully switched roms today with no issues.
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I have installed several roms with no issues in the past, but I seem to have gotten myself turned around. I had no issues with ICS roms, but I can't quite remember what process I was using. I am wanting to install CM10, and I tried using ODIN 1.85 to install the EL26 tar, but when my phone rebooted into CWM, I wasn't sure what to do from there. I am using ODIN to go back to GB (Odin One Click) right now, and then I am going to flash CM10...could anyone provide me any direction? I am reverting to GB from stock ICS. I read in the wiki that flashing to GB from ICS with a bad USB cable can cause brick? Was the flash necessary, or could I have just stuck with flashing the EL26 tar file, and done a factory wipe/reset, dalvik cache wipe, etc from there. I have no idea why I am so confused. Thanks for the help.
I guess the bigger question may be as well...do I need to flash back to stock GB before flashing any rom, or is flashing the EL26 CWM tar file in ODIN 1.85 sufficient, and then reboot into that recovery (vol up + power) and wipe and flash zips from there?
Thanks!
Using the el26+cwm kernel for recovery is OK, it's not necessary to revert the entire rom to GB. You just won't be able to boot to your ics rom when having el26 installed since a GB kernel won't boot an ICS rom.
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yea.. just odin to el26 cwm tar and go into recovery then do proper wipes flash cm10 and jb gapps and reboot.. i prefer calks format all instead of wiping seperately
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