I have been searching for days now and I keep getting thigns confused with the other epic 4g touch (stupid effing retards, who decided on that naming) and its driving me crazy
I have the old epic 4g with the slide out keyboard
I have 2.2 ec05 I think, its midnightrom 5.5 ext4
I want to update to stock 2.3 as I think its available (or is that the other epic 4g again?) and then go about picking a new rom to use
I cant remember if I have to convert back to rfs before using odin, or can I just get a 2.3 stock ext4 rom with cwm or bonsai whatever is used now
I have been away from the forums for a few months and I am way behind - like I said I spent like 2-3 days so far searching and reading all sorts of crap that wasnt helpful or got me confused so I am coming here for help
what do I do first?
Sounds like you should be able to flash the new CWM 5.0.2.7 which can be found in the Roll up sticky in the top of Development and then flash an EL30 or FC09 ROM. You will also have to look into whether you want to switch to MTD (non samsung partition gives you more app space) or stick to BML. You may want to try Sleeper which detects your file system and keeps it. CleanGB and The People's ROM are good choices too. Or you may want to brave new frontiers altogether and choose an AOSP ROM based on ICS like CM9 or AOKP. You might want to take it slow and just update to a Touchwiz ROM for now. The People's ROM is very Bonsai-ish.
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kennyglass123 said:
Sounds like you should be able to flash the new CWM 5.0.2.7 which can be found in the Roll up sticky in the top of Development and then flash an EL30 or FC09 ROM. You will also have to look into whether you want to switch to MTD (non samsung partition gives you more app space) or stick to BML. You may want to try Sleeper which detects your file system and keeps it. CleanGB and The People's ROM are good choices too. Or you may want to brave new frontiers altogether and choose an AOSP ROM based on ICS like CM9 or AOKP. You might want to take it slow and just update to a Touchwiz ROM for now. The People's ROM is very Bonsai-ish.
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first is odin still used, I dont see much mentioning it anymore other then for CWM - some roms were odin files that did everything for you all at once
I think I have CWM on there also but at the time I needed bonsai (I think thats the name) to flash the midnightrom 5.5 so I installed that, if I can have both at the same time then I have both, if not then can I just install CWM5 the normal way or do I have to go back to stock first
probably going to do the CM9 rom I am using midnightrom and it was one of the best when it was new but the developer has sick kids and cant really keep up which makes sense so I want a new one and I dont want unstable roms - so most of what I have read has said that CM9 is really good and its ICS so thats cool I am still on 2.2 now
I dont need to backup anything other then sms which I have already so thats no problem all the apps I will just reinstall anyways and google backups my contacts
I really dont care if I start from scratch and I would prefer to wipe everything and start over because in the past with roms on other phones and this one updating wasnt as good as a new install so I will probably go that route
not sure about the MTD/BML I will have to look into that but I am running ext4 now journaling on so I assume I have to change the format back to rfs before messing with that
No one is making odin ROM tars anymore because there is a general dislike of Odin. You can flash the CWM 5.027, then 3 finger into, wipe data, cache and dalvik the flash CM9 and the immediately flash the gapps which is the google apps for things like the market (Play store now), Gmail and other stuff. Odin whichever modem you like at anytime.
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No one is making odin ROM tars anymore because there is a general dislike of Odin. You can flash the CWM 5.027, then 3 finger into, wipe data, cache and dalvik the flash CM9 and the immediately flash the gapps which is the google apps for things like the market (Play store now), Gmail and other stuff. Odin whichever modem you like at anytime.
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yea I dont like odin either
but will I have to use odin for the model update or do the roms do that now also, I am on EC05 now
Well there are some flashable deltas that can get you from EC05 to EI22, then from there to EL30, then another to get you to FC09. Some have had unreliable results on the last one. It is easier to just Odin the one you want.
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well since I have ext4 not rfs I would have to convert back to rfs, I think that cwm and/or bonsai will do this for me - then I could use the samsung software to "restore" my phone to stock and do a ota update to get the latest modem? - I think that the samsung software is odin in a different skin but whatever
again like I said sorry I have been out of the roms for about 1 year and things move so fast with this sorta stuff that I am like starting from scratch again
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well since I have ext4 not rfs I would have to convert back to rfs, I think that cwm and/or bonsai will do this for me - then I could use the samsung software to "restore" my phone to stock and do a ota update to get the latest modem? - I think that the samsung software is odin in a different skin but whatever
again like I said sorry I have been out of the roms for about 1 year and things move so fast with this sorta stuff that I am like starting from scratch again
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No. It doesn't matter because CM9 will convert you to MTD with yaffs2 file system. You are clearing all data anyway. Just flash cwm5, wipe everything and flash.
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well thanks for the help I have installed CM9 and I am happy with it
I have some questions or comments about it so I will post them in the CM9 topic
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Hey guys, I've been running into a ton of issues. Basically, all I want to do is get to the point where I can flash custom ROM's onto my Samsung Epic 4G. I am on Stock Froyo EC05 Rooted and have ClockWorkMod 2.5.1.0! I understand that the best way to go about things is to first update the Clockworkmod to 3.1.x.x but what is an easy way to do this from 2.5.1.0? Do I have to go through the entire root process again just to update clockwork or do I have to remove my root entirely and start from scratch? What's the best way to go about this and how do you do it?
Hope to hear what you guys think.
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Hey guys, I've been running into a ton of issues. Basically, all I want to do is get to the point where I can flash custom ROM's onto my Samsung Epic 4G. I am on Stock Froyo EC05 Rooted and have ClockWorkMod 2.5.1.0! I understand that the best way to go about things is to first update the Clockworkmod to 3.1.x.x but what is an easy way to do this from 2.5.1.0? Do I have to go through the entire root process again just to update clockwork or do I have to remove my root entirely and start from scratch? What's the best way to go about this and how do you do it?
Hope to hear what you guys think.
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Wow your outta date boy. Anyways the newest cwm is 5.0.2.7 I have the acs recovery5 zip so ill upload that for you simply flash the zip and reboot back into cwm and bam there it is. Once that's done your good to go!
http://db.tt/n15N2E9q
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As for custom roms just go into development and pick on that you think you'll like read the included list and pick from that. Id suggest checking out legendary 2.2 as a starting point if you don't like the theme you can always flash one. As for a custom kernel check out the samurai kernel from earthbound. Make sure you get the TW.BML version not mtd.
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Yeah, I've checked out a few Rom's and I know what I'm looking for, I just want that ClockworkMod updated. Also, for custom ROM's, is it better to have the EXT4 filesystem instead of RFS? which clockwork version will automatically covert it to EXT4?
gooch1025 said:
Yeah, I've checked out a few Rom's and I know what I'm looking for, I just want that ClockworkMod updated. Also, for custom ROM's, is it better to have the EXT4 filesystem instead of RFS? which clockwork version will automatically covert it to EXT4?
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The ROM does the conversion.... and EXT4 is for speed but RFS is more for reliablity not to say the ext4 isn't safe but its not as reliable as RFS. But it safe to use but I know very few people losing data because of undervolting but that was the only thing that caused it. However you need rfs then I can give you the zip to flash and convert it.
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Rfs, because its still considered more stable. Ext4 still has stability issues, although considered faster.
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Find cwm 5 (not the acs version) and then flash it. The you can get mtd roms like cm7.
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Ok. Also, I made a complete backup with Mybackup Pro to my SD card and it works great! However, would it still restore everything If I'm on a different filesystem? I was also wonderung, since I'm on stock froyo, are you sure I can upgrade CWM 2.5.1.0 straight to 5.x.x.x? I heard there might be some issues with that.
Another thing, What ROM do you recommend to be the best. I do want certain features and was looking at the CleanGB and the Legendary ROMS. I basically want one that is fast, barely any bloatware, has the 3d app drawer, and the CRT animation. I also want it to have loopback so I could put Backtrack 5 on my phone just in case I need to use it.
Recovery is independent of the software version. I had cwm 5 on froyo before.
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Ok. Also, I made a complete backup with Mybackup Pro to my SD card and it works great! However, would it still restore everything If I'm on a different filesystem? I was also wonderung, since I'm on stock froyo, are you sure I can upgrade CWM 2.5.1.0 straight to 5.x.x.x? I heard there might be some issues with that.
Another thing, What ROM do you recommend to be the best. I do want certain features and was looking at the CleanGB and the Legendary ROMS. I basically want one that is fast, barely any bloatware, has the 3d app drawer, and the CRT animation. I also want it to have loopback so I could put Backtrack 5 on my phone just in case I need to use it.
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Legendary is faster cleangb is stock really and is on rfs..... and ur fine just flashing my upload... as for the apps don't use that for your apps bringing over apps from different roms escpecially froyo to gb is dangerous and I recomend you just download the apps again from the market. Or you can nandroid and advanced restore the data....
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I did check out the thread on the newest ClockWorkMod 5 but it said that you should have 3.1.x.x, will this work with 2.5.1.0 to 5.x.x.x?
Update: I successfully flashed CWM 2.5.1.0 to 5.0.2.7! Now when I flash a new ROM, is there only one Zip file to flash or do I need to flash a ROM and a new Kernel/Modem?
Not the slightest clue but I have the 3.1 purple zip you can flash if you do need to do that.
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Just flash a rom.
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Cwm 5 is runs on rfs ,and froyo stock is rfs system based, so u really should haven't anything to worry about. The only time u start running into big problems is when u convert to ext4 and especially mtd.
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I did check out the thread on the newest ClockWorkMod 5 but it said that you should have 3.1.x.x, will this work with 2.5.1.0 to 5.x.x.x?
Update: I successfully flashed CWM 2.5.1.0 to 5.0.2.7! Now when I flash a new ROM, is there only one Zip file to flash or do I need to flash a ROM and a new Kernel/Modem?
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If you want a better kernel then yes go ahead and look at the samurai or shadowkernel..... also as fo the modem ill give you the flashable to update ur modem to ei22
http://db.tt/9icy8xnd
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Gooch, when ur checking out about the rom, the developers will usually tell u if it is both the rom and kernel or just the rom. Just pay close attention to the updated changelogs as well.
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Cwm 5 is runs on rfs ,and froyo stock is rfs system based, so u really should haven't anything to worry about. The only time u start running into big problems is when u convert to ext4 and especially mtd.
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Wrong filesystems have nothing to do with cwm...... that's part of the rom....
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androidmaster1 said:
Cwm 5 is runs on rfs ,and froyo stock is rfs system based, so u really should haven't anything to worry about. The only time u start running into big problems is when u convert to ext4 and especially mtd.
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Totally wrong on both parts.
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Ok guys, I got it working! I put on Legendary ROM 2.2 and it's awesome! My data backup worked perfect and things run way smoother. Thanks for all your help, you guys definitely put me on the right track.
Use cwm not acs... acs is great but we have an officialy supported cwm for a reason. I strongly recommend you use our official cwm 5.0.2.7 and not acs
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Installed CM9 and tried to go back, now I cant get anything to stick, cant install CM9 again just get errors in CW cant mount etc. Help please.
What did you do exactly please add more info
You might have to odin back to a stock package which I could do for you remotely if you don't have a stock data cable this will bring back to a fresh state then I could reroot you and this time you can flash it properly it was probably a bad download.
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Installed CM9 from ERA and didnt like. Then tried to restore backup and phone hung at samsung screen. I reflashed acs recovery in odin and tried to reload ERA but i get error mounting cache. I am fine with CM9 but that wont install either.
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Installed CM9 from ERA and didnt like. Then tried to restore backup and phone hung at samsung screen. I reflashed acs recovery in odin and tried to reload ERA but i get error mounting cache. I am fine with CM9 but that wont install either.
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Your not supposed to restore nandroids of bml on an mtd clockworkmod
I'm guessing you where on era's legendary rom? That's bml partition cm9 is on mtd partition that's why this happened.
You'll need to repartition and odin stock ec05 or el30 if you need el30 it can be found by toadlife if you need stock ec05 that's in the android development stickies at the top named "bring an epic back from the brink"
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Your not supposed to restore nandroids of bml on an mtd clockworkmod
I'm guessing you where on era's legendary rom? That's bml partition cm9 is on mtd partition that's why this happened.
You'll need to repartition and odin stock ec05 or el30 if you need el30 it can be found by toadlife if you need stock ec05 that's in the android development stickies at the top named "bring an epic back from the brink"
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Dang.....
MTD sure seems to be kicking up some waves for some folks.
Many THANKS!! Ron for being there to work point & help so many people get through the rough spots.
monke30butt said:
Dang.....
MTD sure seems to be kicking up some waves for some folks.
Many THANKS!! Ron for being there to work point & help so many people get through the rough spots.
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Please read up on MTD before venturing to either MIUI, CM7, CM9 or any MTD listed ROM. It will save you some headaches.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1387334
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Please read up on MTD before venturing to either MIUI, CM7, CM9 or any MTD listed ROM. It will save you some headaches.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1387334
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I'm already running CleanGB MTD 1.0.5......
Just waiting for an EL30 MTD version ROM that I like to come out, I'm hoping Toad will update CleanGB........After CM9 gets more wrinkles ironed out I may try that......I use my phone for work & cannot afford to gamble on an Alpha build....
I keep up with Toad's post for CleanGB MTD the rom & try help when I can.
I really like MTD, it just takes a slightly different process when flashing mods, but seems fast & stable.
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I'm already running CleanGB MTD 1.0.5......
Just waiting for an EL30 MTD version ROM that I like to come out, I'm hoping Toad will update CleanGB........After CM9 gets more wrinkles ironed out I may try that......I use my phone for work & cannot afford to gamble on an Alpha build....
I keep up with Toad's post for CleanGB MTD the rom & try help when I can.
I really like MTD, it just takes a slightly different process when flashing mods, but seems fast & stable.
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Just remember not to mix and max BML nandroids and ROMs while on MTD. And remember some times you have to mount system before flashing some themes and mods.
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Just remember not to mix and max BML nandroids and ROMs while on MTD. And remember some times you have to mount system before flashing some themes and mods.
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Thank you Kenny
What a weekend, I went back to ec05, did the ota update and restored my nandroid and all is as it was. Thanks for the help, i'm an idiot but my phone is sweet again
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I'm getting a lot more freezes when surfing the web in EL30 than I ever got on EC05. I want to go back. Only problems are that I don't want to odin back to bml and I want the extra storage that MTD frees.
If anyone knows of an MTD ECO5 rom, I'd be very thankful if you can point it out.
Never heard of one. But I've seen a development thread that gives instructions to make your own.
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There are no Froyo ROMs for MTD and won't be because you need a kernel to support it and we only have GB kernels and above supporting MTD. Your freezes may be because your phone does not like the kernel you are on. Change your kernel and do not OC or UV and see how that works.
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I'm getting a lot more freezes when surfing the web in EL30 than I ever got on EC05. I want to go back. Only problems are that I don't want to odin back to bml and I want the extra storage that MTD frees.
If anyone knows of an MTD ECO5 rom, I'd be very thankful if you can point it out.
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1.) Try a different kernel
2.) Odin back to stock el30, select re-partition, auto-reboot, reset time. Make sure you remove your battery and SD card before running ODIN.
3.) Make sure you aren't using ei22 themes on el30 roms (it will appear to work, but will cause freezing in the long run.)
Your best solution to your problem would be try to odin back to stock el30 (the tar file is available in the development thread). Make sure you follow the instructions in the Q&A thread on how to properly restore a tweaked epic.
Good luck. I have never had a web browser lock up on el30, im betting its your kernel or theme.
If you continue to experience problems, it most likely is hardware related, take your phone to sprint, they will most likely offer you a new samsung epic at greatly reduced price.
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Your best solution to your problem would be try to odin back to stock el30 (the tar file is available in the development thread). Make sure you follow the instructions in the Q&A thread on how to properly restore a tweaked epic.
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Ok. I'll try reflashing tomorrow. I restored all system data from froyo with tb to keep my text messages, wifi points and call logs.
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Ok. I'll try reflashing tomorrow. I restored all system data from froyo with tb to keep my text messages, wifi points and call logs.
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Restoring data is what is causing your problems. You should only restore apps when upgrading from froyo.
There are apps in the market (Play store) that backup your messages and call logs and restore them to any version of android (that's what I was told) Called SMS Backup and Restore and Call Log Backup and Restore.
Are the ics roms safe to flash? The 1st time I flashed a ics rom,i had probs. No recovery,glitchy and jus plain janky. Im sure they have come along way. Can som1 recommend a safe stable ics rom that also has rogue recovery or acs?
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If you want to go back to gingerbread use el29 restore get recovery then flash CyanogenMod 9 it is better than most roms based off leaks.
Here is the latest stock ICS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694695
Give the devs a little time and you can flash a kernel with the recovery you want.
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Are the ics roms safe to flash? The 1st time I flashed a ics rom,i had probs. No recovery,glitchy and jus plain janky. Im sure they have come along way. Can som1 recommend a safe stable ics rom that also has rogue recovery or acs?
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They are safe to flash if you follow OP directions. Always flash from el26 cwm recovery and you're good. If you cant live without recovery, flash a touchwiz rom and use agat63s repack recovery.
SFhub just released an updated FF02+CWM repack built on GB code to avoid the eMMC lockup bug. However, you need to check the ROM and see if update-binary is corrected or not.
Please look for his post on this here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694695&page=7
The other safe solution is the one that has been known - go back to EL26 and flash away from there. (GB doesn't have the offending code that causes the bug to be triggered.)
I've been using Calkulin's E4GT 2 v1.6 ICS rom since version 1.6 came out (FE22) and I haven't had a single crash or FC, and I've been getting good battery life.. I never even get close to dying and thats even with a couple hours of screen on time (games, facebook, lots of texting, ~1hour talk time).
I'd say go for it =) Just make sure you follow all instructions carefully! This ROM was very easy to flash.. I had been using Calkulin's GB rom (el29) and all I had to do was wipe my caches and flash his .zip file in CWM.. bam, ICS ^_^
When you say safe what is it you really mean... cuz its all SAFE if you know what you are doing..
Well nothing is ever 100% safe. There is always a small chance you could screw things up somehow (the eg31 deal back when the phone was first released, the emmc bug, etc). There are always possible unknown side effects that don't become obvious until down the line.
That said, if you are careful, the odds of doing something irreversible are extremely small on a phone that has been out for a few months or more.
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First, Merry Christmas!
So here is my situation. I planned to give my sister my old Samsung Epic for Christmas. I put CM10 on it, threw in a new battery and watched her unwrap it. She was happy. Unfortunately, I discovered that you cannot activate a CM10 modded phone on Sprint, so I need to flash a stock ROM. I have never done this before, and it's been a while since I messed with Android and since she leaves the state in a few days, I need to do this quickly. I hope you can bear with my possibly silly questions so I can get this done ASAP!
1) I have seen the ROM listed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12755712 recommended. I plan to use this. Any issues?
2) I understand this will revert the file system back to RFS. Will I be able to restore my CM10 nandroid, or will I need to re-run the CM10 flash from scratch in order to reformat?
3) Are any of my assumptions incorrect?
Normally I would research the hell out of this rather than ask for help, but under the circumstances, I am in a bit of bind time-wise.
Thanks!
1. EC05 too old. Get FC09 tar here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592994
2. Yes, you have to flash CM10 to convert to MTD in order to restore nandroids of the format. Don't forget to wipe /system if you ever wanna flash a CM10 package, or you'll have to pull the battery...
3. IDK, I'm in China and have no knowledge of carriers
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Just flash a stock based mtd ROM like the peoples ROM mtd. Activate and then flash back or restore back to cyanogen. I've heard that some people have issues flashing back to another ROM from cm10 because of the partition resizing. But I've jumped back to cm9 which should have been an issue, but was not. Give it a try after a backup. Worst case you have to Odin back to stock like originally planned.
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As suggested you can just flash a Touchwiz MTD ROM like The People's ROM. Activate then restore your CM10 nandroid or wipe data in CWM and flash back to CM10 after.
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Or just stay on TPR and enjoy the succulent battery life
I've done the multi boot method where you boot off the sd card. It works great and is a lot faster than I thought it would be. You keep your cm10 system exactly as it is. You also can leave the OS files on your sd card and install the zip from recovery any time you need to update the prl or adjust radio settings.
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