[Q] Need help with EC05 Froyo and CWM 2.5.1.0 - Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys, I've been running into a ton of issues. Basically, all I want to do is get to the point where I can flash custom ROM's onto my Samsung Epic 4G. I am on Stock Froyo EC05 Rooted and have ClockWorkMod 2.5.1.0! I understand that the best way to go about things is to first update the Clockworkmod to 3.1.x.x but what is an easy way to do this from 2.5.1.0? Do I have to go through the entire root process again just to update clockwork or do I have to remove my root entirely and start from scratch? What's the best way to go about this and how do you do it?
Hope to hear what you guys think.

gooch1025 said:
Hey guys, I've been running into a ton of issues. Basically, all I want to do is get to the point where I can flash custom ROM's onto my Samsung Epic 4G. I am on Stock Froyo EC05 Rooted and have ClockWorkMod 2.5.1.0! I understand that the best way to go about things is to first update the Clockworkmod to 3.1.x.x but what is an easy way to do this from 2.5.1.0? Do I have to go through the entire root process again just to update clockwork or do I have to remove my root entirely and start from scratch? What's the best way to go about this and how do you do it?
Hope to hear what you guys think.
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Wow your outta date boy. Anyways the newest cwm is 5.0.2.7 I have the acs recovery5 zip so ill upload that for you simply flash the zip and reboot back into cwm and bam there it is. Once that's done your good to go!
http://db.tt/n15N2E9q
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As for custom roms just go into development and pick on that you think you'll like read the included list and pick from that. Id suggest checking out legendary 2.2 as a starting point if you don't like the theme you can always flash one. As for a custom kernel check out the samurai kernel from earthbound. Make sure you get the TW.BML version not mtd.
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Yeah, I've checked out a few Rom's and I know what I'm looking for, I just want that ClockworkMod updated. Also, for custom ROM's, is it better to have the EXT4 filesystem instead of RFS? which clockwork version will automatically covert it to EXT4?

gooch1025 said:
Yeah, I've checked out a few Rom's and I know what I'm looking for, I just want that ClockworkMod updated. Also, for custom ROM's, is it better to have the EXT4 filesystem instead of RFS? which clockwork version will automatically covert it to EXT4?
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The ROM does the conversion.... and EXT4 is for speed but RFS is more for reliablity not to say the ext4 isn't safe but its not as reliable as RFS. But it safe to use but I know very few people losing data because of undervolting but that was the only thing that caused it. However you need rfs then I can give you the zip to flash and convert it.
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Rfs, because its still considered more stable. Ext4 still has stability issues, although considered faster.
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Find cwm 5 (not the acs version) and then flash it. The you can get mtd roms like cm7.
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Ok. Also, I made a complete backup with Mybackup Pro to my SD card and it works great! However, would it still restore everything If I'm on a different filesystem? I was also wonderung, since I'm on stock froyo, are you sure I can upgrade CWM 2.5.1.0 straight to 5.x.x.x? I heard there might be some issues with that.
Another thing, What ROM do you recommend to be the best. I do want certain features and was looking at the CleanGB and the Legendary ROMS. I basically want one that is fast, barely any bloatware, has the 3d app drawer, and the CRT animation. I also want it to have loopback so I could put Backtrack 5 on my phone just in case I need to use it.

Recovery is independent of the software version. I had cwm 5 on froyo before.
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gooch1025 said:
Ok. Also, I made a complete backup with Mybackup Pro to my SD card and it works great! However, would it still restore everything If I'm on a different filesystem? I was also wonderung, since I'm on stock froyo, are you sure I can upgrade CWM 2.5.1.0 straight to 5.x.x.x? I heard there might be some issues with that.
Another thing, What ROM do you recommend to be the best. I do want certain features and was looking at the CleanGB and the Legendary ROMS. I basically want one that is fast, barely any bloatware, has the 3d app drawer, and the CRT animation. I also want it to have loopback so I could put Backtrack 5 on my phone just in case I need to use it.
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Legendary is faster cleangb is stock really and is on rfs..... and ur fine just flashing my upload... as for the apps don't use that for your apps bringing over apps from different roms escpecially froyo to gb is dangerous and I recomend you just download the apps again from the market. Or you can nandroid and advanced restore the data....
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I did check out the thread on the newest ClockWorkMod 5 but it said that you should have 3.1.x.x, will this work with 2.5.1.0 to 5.x.x.x?
Update: I successfully flashed CWM 2.5.1.0 to 5.0.2.7! Now when I flash a new ROM, is there only one Zip file to flash or do I need to flash a ROM and a new Kernel/Modem?

Not the slightest clue but I have the 3.1 purple zip you can flash if you do need to do that.
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Just flash a rom.
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Cwm 5 is runs on rfs ,and froyo stock is rfs system based, so u really should haven't anything to worry about. The only time u start running into big problems is when u convert to ext4 and especially mtd.
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gooch1025 said:
I did check out the thread on the newest ClockWorkMod 5 but it said that you should have 3.1.x.x, will this work with 2.5.1.0 to 5.x.x.x?
Update: I successfully flashed CWM 2.5.1.0 to 5.0.2.7! Now when I flash a new ROM, is there only one Zip file to flash or do I need to flash a ROM and a new Kernel/Modem?
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If you want a better kernel then yes go ahead and look at the samurai or shadowkernel..... also as fo the modem ill give you the flashable to update ur modem to ei22
http://db.tt/9icy8xnd
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Gooch, when ur checking out about the rom, the developers will usually tell u if it is both the rom and kernel or just the rom. Just pay close attention to the updated changelogs as well.
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androidmaster1 said:
Cwm 5 is runs on rfs ,and froyo stock is rfs system based, so u really should haven't anything to worry about. The only time u start running into big problems is when u convert to ext4 and especially mtd.
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Wrong filesystems have nothing to do with cwm...... that's part of the rom....
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androidmaster1 said:
Cwm 5 is runs on rfs ,and froyo stock is rfs system based, so u really should haven't anything to worry about. The only time u start running into big problems is when u convert to ext4 and especially mtd.
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Totally wrong on both parts.
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Ok guys, I got it working! I put on Legendary ROM 2.2 and it's awesome! My data backup worked perfect and things run way smoother. Thanks for all your help, you guys definitely put me on the right track.

Use cwm not acs... acs is great but we have an officialy supported cwm for a reason. I strongly recommend you use our official cwm 5.0.2.7 and not acs
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ECO5 help

I am new to rooting the Epic 4g, but not new to rooting in general. I had an HTC Hero (cdma) and am now on the Evo 4g. I understand all the terminology associated with rooting/flashing, etc, however, the Epic is a little different. I just rooted my wife's ECO5 Epic using the most recent One-Click method and everything worked great. The first thing I did was make a backup. I would like to flash Syndicate Frozen 1.2 but am a little confused on this whole files system jargon as it isn't existent or an option on the EVO. My questions are as follows: If I flash Syndicate Rom 1.2 and the Genocide kernel, I understand that it will convert my files system to Ext4 automatically, but if for some reason I don't like it, can I simply recover my backup in CWM and go back to stock? Or do I need to ODIN back to stock and reset up my whole system as I had it prior? I see that the One-Click 3.1.0.1 method I used has dual file system support. What does that all impact? Just new roms or my current ROM. I have done a bunch of research but haven't been comfortable in my findings enough to start flashing. Can someone please clarify this for me?
I believe there are scripts available to convert between the two file systems, in both directions.
That said, EXT4 is the way to go imo. Don't be shy about it. Sfr 1.2 is top rom in my book. Do take the time to go get the other goodies as well. Hotspot hack, and the supercharger script. It's all amazing when it comes together.
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Clockworkmod 3.1.0.1 does not restore filesystem type (ext4, rfs). You can either odin back to rfs or flash a .zip in Clockworkmod. Also, if you have access to odin, there is NO WAY you can brick your phone. It will ALWAYS be recoverable.
(unless you intentionally brick it, there are ways)
So just to clarify, I must ODIN back to stock and thenin recover my backup, which is just stock? Or, can my stock backup run on Ext4?
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legasus233 said:
So just to clarify, I must ODIN back to stock and thenin recover my backup, which is just stock? Or, can my stock backup run on Ext4?
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Best to restore first and do the conversion, but there is no reason you can't restore after. Although I usually do advanced restore data between file systems myself.
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Will the completely stock rooted rom run on ext4? Or is my backup useless unless I convert back to rfs file system?
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legasus233 said:
Will the completely stock rooted rom run on ext4? Or is my backup useless unless I convert back to rfs file system?
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If I remember right, stock runs on ext4. As long as you have a different kernel. Stock kernel does NOT run on ext4.
legasus233 said:
Will the completely stock rooted rom run on ext4? Or is my backup useless unless I convert back to rfs file system?
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That is 2 different questions. One no stock kernel is RFS. Two, restore as I mentioned before, advanced restore data only and you will be fine. You may have to set up your accounts but that is about it.
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I think i need to ask the question differently. Right now, all that I have done since getting her the phone is complete the One-click root 3.1.0.1. I then made a backup. I haven't done anything else or made any changes. If I now flash Syndicate 1.2 frozen but want to return to my backup, are you suggesting I don't need to ODIN back to stock, but simply advance restore in recovery? Sorry for being an idiot about this guys, but like I said, I am an Evo flashaholic and its taking me some getting used to speaking Epic language! Plus, I would hate to flub something up since its my wife's phone!
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I think what I am looking for is step by step what is the shortest easiest way to "undo" a new rom flash and go back to exactly the way it was before. On the Evo, a nandroid backup is gold and does just this, but I am finding that on the Epic this isn't as simple
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I would not start with SRF 1.2. Because you also need to flash a kernel. Start by flashing a ROM that comes with a kernel. If it is for someone else keep it simple like ReRFS ROM. I would not even do EXT4 unless you are sure you have journaling enabled. The first freeze, drop or battery pull will cause Force Closes galore. Unless you are planning on supporting that phone constantly, keep it simple. And yes most times restore works fine without goling back to Odin.
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legasus233 said:
I think what I am looking for is step by step what is the shortest easiest way to "undo" a new rom flash and go back to exactly the way it was before. On the Evo, a nandroid backup is gold and does just this, but I am finding that on the Epic this isn't as simple
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90% of the time it will restore just fine.
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Yes, I agree, but "if" I flash an ext4 rom/kernel and then try to recover my stock rooted backup from cwm, will it work since stock is rfs?
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legasus233 said:
Yes, I agree, but "if" I flash an ext4 rom/kernel and then try to recover my stock rooted backup from cwm, will it work since stock is rfs?
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Nand doesn't care what the file system is so yes. The issue you may run into is incompatibilties between ROMs and data. So go ahead. I run both nands and Titanium backup just in case of an incompatibility so I can go between froyo and GB.
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kennyglass123 said:
Nand doesn't care what the file system is so yes. The issue you may run into is incompatibilties between ROMs and data. So go ahead. I run both nands and Titanium backup just in case of an incompatibility so I can go between froyo and GB.
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The answer is no. Complete stock kernel doesn't support ext4. He would have to flash genocide or twilight kernel.
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ugothakd said:
The answer is no. Complete stock kernel doesn't support ext4. He would have to flash genocide or twilight kernel.
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Doesn't matter if he did an advanced data restore. It does not restore the kernel.
Also I am not sure it restores the kernel on a full nand restore. Did one recently and none of the kernel mods restored. Had to reflash my kernel. I thought 3.1.0.1 was supposed to backup and restore the kernel.
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kennyglass123 said:
Doesn't matter if he did an advanced data restore. It does not restore the kernel.
Also I am not sure it restores the kernel on a full nand restore. Did one recently and none of the kernel mods restored. Had to reflash my kernel. I thought 3.1.0.1 was supposed to backup and restore the kernel.
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That doesn't make sense, if it didn't restore kernel, then how can some people nandroid between cm7 and eh17 every so often? And yeah, but I think he was talking about restoring the ROM, not his data. I could be wrong.
ugothakd said:
That doesn't make sense, if it didn't restore kernel, then how can some people nandroid between cm7 and eh17 every so often? And yeah, but I think he was talking about restoring the ROM, not his data. I could be wrong.
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I am confused as to what the OP wants then. I thought he wanted to flash a ROM and if he didn't like it restore back.
As for CM7 to EH17 and back, simply flash and advance restore data or use Titanium Backup. I backed up Hurricane after flashing a new kernel and adding some mods. Upon restore later the first thing I noticed was the mods missing. This is with 3.1.0.1 Odin'd in. Had Bonsai recovery which does back up kernel image as well but would not flash other EH17 Roms for some reason.
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kennyglass123 said:
I am confused as to what the OP wants then. I thought he wanted to flash a ROM and if he didn't like it restore back.
As for CM7 to EH17 and back, simply flash and advance restore data or use Titanium Backup. I backed up Hurricane after flashing a new kernel and adding some mods. Upon restore later the first thing I noticed was the mods missing. This is with 3.1.0.1 Odin'd in. Had Bonsai recovery which does back up kernel image as well but would not flash other EH17 Roms for some reason.
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I'm confused. The op wanted his phone to be " if for some reason I don't like it, can I simply recover my backup in CWM and go back to stock" which I assume is complete stock, which means the ROM and not his data.
ugothakd said:
I'm confused. The op wanted his phone to be " if for some reason I don't like it, can I simply recover my backup in CWM and go back to stock" which I assume is complete stock, which means the ROM and not his data.
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He further confused me later on but going by the OP, then you are right and the best bet at that point is to Odin a prerooted stock ROM like EC05plus to save a step and then restore everything if he didn't like SRF 1.2 and Genocide.
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[Q] Bluetooth Won't Enable after flashing new ROM

I've tried enabling the bluetooth both thru the pull down button and through the settings menu. It acts like it's starting to turn on, and then after a few seconds, just goes dark again.
Tried reboot. No luck.
Used ACS Recovery to do a pre-ROM wipe before flashing the new ROM.
Can't post in developers forum yet, so hopefully someone here can help. I read every page and every entry in the applicable forum for the ROM I flashed, but no one reported this problem or solutions.
Any ideas? I'd rather not have to flashback to stock or whatever. I've seen plenty of helpful posts for other bugs in the ROM. Just nothing for this. HELP!
Thanks,
Epic 4g
Gingerbread 2.3.5
ROM Revival MTD v2
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I've tried enabling the bluetooth both thru the pull down button and through the settings menu. It acts like it's starting to turn on, and then after a few seconds, just goes dark again.
Tried reboot. No luck.
Used ACS Recovery to do a pre-ROM wipe before flashing the new ROM.
Can't post in developers forum yet, so hopefully someone here can help. I read every page and every entry in the applicable forum for the ROM I flashed, but no one reported this problem or solutions.
Any ideas? I'd rather not have to flashback to stock or whatever. I've seen plenty of helpful posts for other bugs in the ROM. Just nothing for this. HELP!
Thanks,
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Gingerbread 2.3.5
ROM Revival MTD v2
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Backup that rom... flash a different rom... if bluetooth works then its that rom... btw I would strongly suggest not using acs recovery... use cwm 5.0.2.7... it is the officially supported recovery for our epics! Also acs does not play well with mtd roms so that may be your problem!
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Get rid of ACS Recovery. It is not supposed to be used for MTD ROMs.
kennyglass123 said:
Get rid of ACS Recovery. It is not supposed to be used for MTD ROMs.
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Bah humbug acs not play well with mtd blah!
I used it to convert to mtd when cyanogen first came and it worked just fine...... acs not the problem because even if he was on bml cwm5 before flashing he would have the same results.
Please stop blaming that recovery ^^
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However once on mtd he shouldn't be using it
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Biggoron said:
Bah humbug acs not play well with mtd blah!
I used it to convert to mtd when cyanogen first came and it worked just fine...... acs not the problem because even if he was on bml cwm5 before flashing he would have the same results.
Please stop blaming that recovery ^^
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Maybe it worked for YOU but it is highly recommended to use CWM 5.027 to convert and note that if you want to convert and restore nandroid data it must come from 5.027.
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kennyglass123 said:
Maybe it worked for YOU but it is highly recommended to use CWM 5.027 to convert and note that if you want to convert and restore nandroid data it must come from 5.027.
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I'm pretty sire recoveries don't differ from phones... software is software its not a hardware difference just saying. How is your day going kenny?
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Biggoron said:
I'm pretty sire recoveries don't differ from phones... software is software its not a hardware difference just saying. How is your day going kenny?
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Ah always better after you brighten my day Biggie...lol.
BTW you know software is what drives the hardware. So any flash can go wrong at some point whether Odin, CWM, ACS, or Bonsai Recovery. Just sayin'...LOL. How you been?
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kennyglass123 said:
Ah always better after you brighten my day Biggie...lol.
BTW you know software is what drives the hardware. So any flash can go wrong at some point whether Odin, CWM, ACS, or Bonsai Recovery. Just sayin'...LOL. How you been?
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GRRRR.... oh me I'm good I see what your saying but how would be able to flat out blame that software for all you know it was the rom .... okay end of argument no reason to keep up this fiasco anyways I'm not saying to not use the official cwm I'm just saying you can't blame the issue on the recovery... I've had tons of bluetooth issues concerning kernels never the recovery
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I agree...just trying to narrow down the possibilities. Probably just needed to delete some bluetooth data files. I forget which ones force the bluetooth database to rebuild.
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BRICKED
Thank u all for the replies. I DID use ACS to do the pre-rom wipe, but I thought CWM got changed afterwards, somewhere in the process of flashing the new ROM, etc. Funny that several of you mentioned the possibility of that being the issue. I went to boot into recovery to check, and my phone bricked. #*(#@$%&. So, I had to odin back to stock and then root again, then use Titaniun just to get to my pre-ROM settings. I'm just gonna go without the custom ROM for now.
JrWicked said:
Thank u all for the replies. I DID use ACS to do the pre-rom wipe, but I thought CWM got changed afterwards, somewhere in the process of flashing the new ROM, etc. Funny that several of you mentioned the possibility of that being the issue. I went to boot into recovery to check, and my phone bricked. #*(#@$%&. So, I had to odin back to stock and then root again, then use Titaniun just to get to my pre-ROM settings. I'm just gonna go without the custom ROM for now.
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You mean sponged, not bricked. As long as there is life you are not bricked. Just grab the official CWM 5.027 and flash that. When doing conversions like that don't use ROM Manager and all should be well. When in doubt, wipe wipe wipe.

[Q] how to install CleanGB 1.05

Hi,
I'm thinking of taking the jump into CleanGB 1.05 MTD. Currently I have a rooted EI22 build. I'm going to update to the EI30 modem first but I'm unsure of the steps to get the CleanGB 1.05 build installed because of the change to the MTD filesystem. There is a how to video on the BML 1.03 page but I can't find anything on the MTD 1.05 build. From reading I think there are extra steps I need to take, or maybe the ROM does all the steps already.
Doea anyone have a link to a video, or instructions for loading the CleanGB 1.05 MTD ROM?
Thanks
JM
As long as you have ClockworkMod you are good to go. Most (I think all) MTD roms auto-convert for you. Then enjoy!
^^^^exactly... if you have cwm 5.0.2.7 you're good to go... if you're using acs recovery flash cwm first... all the roms do the work fo you...
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Hey Noles, do you know what happens if you try to flash an MTD with CWM 3.XXX whatever? Does that also auto update to 5.0.2.7?
Coycaine said:
Hey Noles, do you know what happens if you try to flash an MTD with CWM 3.XXX whatever? Does that also auto update to 5.0.2.7?
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I would think so... but people have reported errors using acs recovery when trying to conver to mtd using that recovery... so 3.x.x.x may give you the same problems... never tried it though so I'm not 100% sure...
Edit- and after flashing an mtd rom and converting to mtd DO NOT flash another recovery... not even 5.0.2.7... the cwm that the mtd rom installs is the only recovery that works on mtd for our phones
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Coycaine said:
Hey Noles, do you know what happens if you try to flash an MTD with CWM 3.XXX whatever? Does that also auto update to 5.0.2.7?
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MTD ROMs have their own MTD only version of CWM 5.0.2.7 that gets flashed with the conversion. Do not try to change it after converting..
It is also best to just update to CWM 5 before trying to convert. Just to be sure.
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kennyglass123 said:
MTD ROMs have their own MTD only version of CWM 5.0.2.7 that gets flashed with the conversion. Do not try to change it after converting..
It is also best to just update to CWM 5 before trying to convert. Just to be sure.
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Hahaha I was editing my post with that info as you posted... lol... great minds think alike I guess...
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flastnoles11 said:
Hahaha I was editing my post with that info as you posted... lol... great minds think alike I guess...
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Yup! LOL. You are always right there with the same answers I would give.
Hi,
just wanted to thank you guys for the help. I copied the CleanGB_MTD zip onto my SD card then used CWM to flash from card and presto... a few reboots later and now I'm running a new ROM. So far it seems to be going well.
Thanks again.
JM
Sweet, found the perfect thread for my question
I'm running cleanGB Mtd 1.05, came from CM7. I have unsuccessfully tried to flash a few things, I have an epic ringtones zip I picked up somewhere along the way that gives you a ton more system ringtones, I also tried to flash some ei22 transparent mms themes....anyway, none worked. did the usual process, wiped cache, dalvik, and nada. Nothing there. At least they didn't cause any harm either.
Not sure why this is....my only guess was they were designed for bml ROMs? Thought i had a good understanding of bml/mtd in which case i didn't think it would really matter which partition I'm on for these flashable zips to work....any takers?
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Sweet, found the perfect thread for my question
I'm running cleanGB Mtd 1.05, came from CM7. I have unsuccessfully tried to flash a few things, I have an epic ringtones zip I picked up somewhere along the way that gives you a ton more system ringtones, I also tried to flash some ei22 transparent mms themes....anyway, none worked. did the usual process, wiped cache, dalvik, and nada. Nothing there. At least they didn't cause any harm either.
Not sure why this is....my only guess was they were designed for bml ROMs? Thought i had a good understanding of bml/mtd in which case i didn't think it would really matter which partition I'm on for these flashable zips to work....any takers?
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Yeah you did everything but the most important...mount system in CWM before flashing.
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Yeah you did everything but the most important...mount system in CWM before flashing.
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Pardon my ignorance KennyG, is this a necessary step I have to do manually every time I flash zips in MTD CWM? Something that never had to be done in CWM on BML... Please point me in the right direction if I am outta line here...or I know, I know...I should head right to search regarding MTD CWM and BML CWM...
mookdawg7 said:
Pardon my ignorance KennyG, is this a necessary step I have to do manually every time I flash zips in MTD CWM? Please point me in the right direction if I am outta line here...
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Yes, and not a problem...I forget half the damn time and wonder why the changes to my theme are not showing up...LOL. You have to mount system anytime you want to flash something in MTD except ROMs and kernels...they seem to mount system for you. Restoring backups do not need system mounting either. MTD is still a new animal to us.
lol, we crossed posts, I was just editing that last one but you already were lightning fast on the reply. Thanks for that, and all that you contribute to the forum, I know your work well!
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lol, we crossed posts, I was just editing that last one but you already were lightning fast on the reply. Thanks for that, and all that you contribute to the forum, I know your work well!
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Just glad to help. I kick myself everytime I forget to mount system.
kennyglass123 said:
MTD ROMs have their own MTD only version of CWM 5.0.2.7 that gets flashed with the conversion. Do not try to change it after converting..
It is also best to just update to CWM 5 before trying to convert. Just to be sure.
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Does that mean that, once converted to mtd, a person can back up and restore freely?
I had been holding off on the mtd because i thought restoring a nandroid would be cumbersome. Something about changing all the ext4 to yaffs2 in order to make it work.
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mjben said:
Does that mean that, once converted to mtd, a person can back up and restore freely?
I had been holding off on the mtd because i thought restoring a nandroid would be cumbersome. Something about changing all the ext4 to yaffs2 in order to make it work.
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You can back up and restore your MTD ROM freely, even a way of using ROM Manager (ask me). BUT you cannot restore backups of BML ROMs without jumping through all those hoops that you hinted about.
mookdawg7 said:
Sweet, found the perfect thread for my question
I'm running cleanGB Mtd 1.05, came from CM7. I have unsuccessfully tried to flash a few things, I have an epic ringtones zip I picked up somewhere along the way that gives you a ton more system ringtones, I also tried to flash some ei22 transparent mms themes....anyway, none worked. did the usual process, wiped cache, dalvik, and nada. Nothing there. At least they didn't cause any harm either.
Not sure why this is....my only guess was they were designed for bml ROMs? Thought i had a good understanding of bml/mtd in which case i didn't think it would really matter which partition I'm on for these flashable zips to work....any takers?
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You must go into mounts and storage in cwm and mount /system... flash... unmount /system.... reboot...
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You must go into mounts and storage in cwm and mount /system... flash... unmount /system.... reboot...
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Too slow....but more thorough to make up for it...LOL.
I am sure I have forgotten to unmount as well....need some of that Chinkocobra or whatever it's called.
I'm going to hijack my own thread to ask this. I do not have enough posts to put this in the developers fourm which is probably a better place.
How do the custom ROM's for the EPIC4g (any phone I guess) come about? The few ROM's I've looked at seem to be one man operations (i.e. toadlife for the CleanGB I use). Clearly the CM effort is a larger team effort. I'm very happy with the CleanGB ROM after a few days of use but I'm looking forward to an ICS based phone. I don't think I'm brave enough to jump onto a release candidate so I'm probably not switching to CM9 RC0 any time soon.
So is the normal path of develpment for the CM team the first release a new ROM (CM7 for gingerbread, CM9 for ICS,..) and then do the other custom ROM developers take this as a starting point to do their thing? Now that CM9 RC0 is out should I expect to see a bunch of custom RC0 ROMs released in the next few weeks?
Thanks for the help. Oh and if you see Toadlife ask him when CleanICS-MTD is coming ;-)
JM

Considering EL30 and/or MTD

Okay, so currently my epic is on BML, and I've been considering switching to MTD. I'm using the Legendary Era ROM and Seppeku Kernel, and I'm loving my phone so far and don't really want to change anything. But, MTD does look very promising, aswell as the new update, plus I'm getting sick of my phone bugging me to update.
So, my question is... How can I convert my current ROM backup to MTD? I know there are links to switching to MTD, and I plan on using those but I just want to make sure I've got my backup switched over to MTD aswell, so I don't lose it. But I've got TB pro, so I'm not TOO worried about it.
Umm, one more thing... If I upgrade to EL30, will I have to re-root? Also, will the process be the same and will I be able to restore my old backup?
xLoveHateLegend said:
Okay, so currently my epic is on BML, and I've been considering switching to MTD. I'm using the Legendary Era ROM and Seppeku Kernel, and I'm loving my phone so far and don't really want to change anything. But, MTD does look very promising, aswell as the new update, plus I'm getting sick of my phone bugging me to update.
So, my question is... How can I convert my current ROM backup to MTD? I know there are links to switching to MTD, and I plan on using those but I just want to make sure I've got my backup switched over to MTD aswell, so I don't lose it. But I've got TB pro, so I'm not TOO worried about it.
Umm, one more thing... If I upgrade to EL30, will I have to re-root? Also, will the process be the same and will I be able to restore my old backup?
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Yes if you upgrade you will have to reroot... you can't update unless you go back though because you can't update while running a custom rom... if you wanna just keep your current setup for now until legendary updates to mtd but wanna stop the update message then just press install now... it will fail... pull battery and reboot... hope this helps you out... also the threads that you were refering to teach you how to convert your backup... pretty much just renaming files... ext4/rfs to yaffs2...
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El30 would not be a good replacement for your current setup. Its still missing most of the tweaks and hacks.
If you are just tired of the update bugging you then let it try and update. It will fail and you can pull the battery. When you reboot there will be no more prompting.
Legendary doesn't have an mtd version and while its possible to convert it I wouldn't recommend it to anyone unless they are comfortable finding all the into on their own. If you really want mtd the best is just switch to the latest cm7 nightly and start from scratch. You will have no shortage of things to feed that flashing addiction the
I loved the LegendaryRom 2.2 myself and that was what I was using for awhile. MTD is the bomb though, and if you want to switch now, I would recommend MarcusantROM v3 MTD. Otherwise just stay on Legendary until version 2.3 comes out and is available in MTD. Also, a lot of people have had problems with the EL30 modem, so I would just stay on EI22 for now. If the modem ended up not working for you very good, then you would have to ODIN back to EC05, then upgrade back to EI22. Save yourself the time.
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Thanks for all the helpful replies guys, much appreciated c:
Okay... so, I know if I want to convert my legendary backup to MTD I'd have to go out and figure out how to do so myself. I don't have a problem doing so, it would be a learning process for me and I don't mind learning more. That being said, do you think it's worth it? I'd like to give marcusant's rom a go, but that being said i'd like to be able to switch back to my legendary rom if needed. So before all, i'd like to switch my legendary backup from BML to MTD first.
So, for those of you on MTD, what are some of the pro's you've noticed so far? Any cons? And yes, I've read up on the MTD thread, but i'd like to hear some opinions on this. That being said, I might just end up switching to MTD tonight.
And about EL30, I guess I'll wait until Legendary supports it. Samurai already supports EL30 though, correct?
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I'm on an MTD Epic, running Marcusant's ROM Revival V3 w/ Shadow Kernel for TW v.04 kernel. Let me just start by saying that I was on the verge of switching to the Epic Touch, but thanks to this forums Devs dedication and hard work, this ROM,kernel and, E22 ICS theme have brought new life to my device. I've noticed better battery life and responsiveness on MTD. Just IMO this has been the best thing to happen to the Epic 4g since Ext4. Sorry for describing everything I have running...it's just THAT good lol. Try it out, you can always ODIN back to BML.
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Hmmm... so that being said, I think I want to convert my ROM backup to MTD and check out the marcusant rom. My legendary rom, once converted to MTD will still work properly though while I'm on MTD right?
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Most definitely. As long as the Dev has worked out everything properly, you showed be fine once it's converted. Just make sure to follow all procedures as usual and if the Dev makes the ROM possible to auto-switch to MTD then your good to go. If you have to switch to MTD yourself and then flash the ROM, look around the Development forum to find your answer. For a fact MarcusantROM Revival takes care of all that for you. You can always flash that ROM to convert and re-flash the MTD ROM of your choice. Good luck!!
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xLoveHateLegend said:
Hmmm... so that being said, I think I want to convert my ROM backup to MTD and check out the marcusant rom. My legendary rom, once converted to MTD will still work properly though while I'm on MTD right?
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Absolutely! I have been running RC 2.1 on MTD since MTD conversion procedure came out. Just remember to change themes you have to mount system in CWM just before flashing, then unmount before rebooting. Other than that the only thing you'll notice is all the extra app space and stability!

[Q] help with updating

I have been searching for days now and I keep getting thigns confused with the other epic 4g touch (stupid effing retards, who decided on that naming) and its driving me crazy
I have the old epic 4g with the slide out keyboard
I have 2.2 ec05 I think, its midnightrom 5.5 ext4
I want to update to stock 2.3 as I think its available (or is that the other epic 4g again?) and then go about picking a new rom to use
I cant remember if I have to convert back to rfs before using odin, or can I just get a 2.3 stock ext4 rom with cwm or bonsai whatever is used now
I have been away from the forums for a few months and I am way behind - like I said I spent like 2-3 days so far searching and reading all sorts of crap that wasnt helpful or got me confused so I am coming here for help
what do I do first?
Sounds like you should be able to flash the new CWM 5.0.2.7 which can be found in the Roll up sticky in the top of Development and then flash an EL30 or FC09 ROM. You will also have to look into whether you want to switch to MTD (non samsung partition gives you more app space) or stick to BML. You may want to try Sleeper which detects your file system and keeps it. CleanGB and The People's ROM are good choices too. Or you may want to brave new frontiers altogether and choose an AOSP ROM based on ICS like CM9 or AOKP. You might want to take it slow and just update to a Touchwiz ROM for now. The People's ROM is very Bonsai-ish.
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And of course backup 2 ways before flashing anything. Use Titanium Backup and make a nandroid backup.
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Sounds like you should be able to flash the new CWM 5.0.2.7 which can be found in the Roll up sticky in the top of Development and then flash an EL30 or FC09 ROM. You will also have to look into whether you want to switch to MTD (non samsung partition gives you more app space) or stick to BML. You may want to try Sleeper which detects your file system and keeps it. CleanGB and The People's ROM are good choices too. Or you may want to brave new frontiers altogether and choose an AOSP ROM based on ICS like CM9 or AOKP. You might want to take it slow and just update to a Touchwiz ROM for now. The People's ROM is very Bonsai-ish.
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first is odin still used, I dont see much mentioning it anymore other then for CWM - some roms were odin files that did everything for you all at once
I think I have CWM on there also but at the time I needed bonsai (I think thats the name) to flash the midnightrom 5.5 so I installed that, if I can have both at the same time then I have both, if not then can I just install CWM5 the normal way or do I have to go back to stock first
probably going to do the CM9 rom I am using midnightrom and it was one of the best when it was new but the developer has sick kids and cant really keep up which makes sense so I want a new one and I dont want unstable roms - so most of what I have read has said that CM9 is really good and its ICS so thats cool I am still on 2.2 now
I dont need to backup anything other then sms which I have already so thats no problem all the apps I will just reinstall anyways and google backups my contacts
I really dont care if I start from scratch and I would prefer to wipe everything and start over because in the past with roms on other phones and this one updating wasnt as good as a new install so I will probably go that route
not sure about the MTD/BML I will have to look into that but I am running ext4 now journaling on so I assume I have to change the format back to rfs before messing with that
No one is making odin ROM tars anymore because there is a general dislike of Odin. You can flash the CWM 5.027, then 3 finger into, wipe data, cache and dalvik the flash CM9 and the immediately flash the gapps which is the google apps for things like the market (Play store now), Gmail and other stuff. Odin whichever modem you like at anytime.
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No one is making odin ROM tars anymore because there is a general dislike of Odin. You can flash the CWM 5.027, then 3 finger into, wipe data, cache and dalvik the flash CM9 and the immediately flash the gapps which is the google apps for things like the market (Play store now), Gmail and other stuff. Odin whichever modem you like at anytime.
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yea I dont like odin either
but will I have to use odin for the model update or do the roms do that now also, I am on EC05 now
Well there are some flashable deltas that can get you from EC05 to EI22, then from there to EL30, then another to get you to FC09. Some have had unreliable results on the last one. It is easier to just Odin the one you want.
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well since I have ext4 not rfs I would have to convert back to rfs, I think that cwm and/or bonsai will do this for me - then I could use the samsung software to "restore" my phone to stock and do a ota update to get the latest modem? - I think that the samsung software is odin in a different skin but whatever
again like I said sorry I have been out of the roms for about 1 year and things move so fast with this sorta stuff that I am like starting from scratch again
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well since I have ext4 not rfs I would have to convert back to rfs, I think that cwm and/or bonsai will do this for me - then I could use the samsung software to "restore" my phone to stock and do a ota update to get the latest modem? - I think that the samsung software is odin in a different skin but whatever
again like I said sorry I have been out of the roms for about 1 year and things move so fast with this sorta stuff that I am like starting from scratch again
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No. It doesn't matter because CM9 will convert you to MTD with yaffs2 file system. You are clearing all data anyway. Just flash cwm5, wipe everything and flash.
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well thanks for the help I have installed CM9 and I am happy with it
I have some questions or comments about it so I will post them in the CM9 topic

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