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The possibility about porting iOS to Desire HD?

hi all,
I read this thread just now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857188
I wanna talk about the same thing but that thread has been closed.
According to some website, I found both G10 and iPhone4 are based on ARM architecture. I have use IDA to analyse some files in iOS 4.2.1 update packages and I found it use ARM7 instruction set. So I think there is still some possibility to port iOS kernel to G10. Is there anyone who also interested on this? Could you tell me something useful about this project? Thanks a lot.
BTW: If you think this post makes no means, please do not laugh at me as the guys who has done this in the thread above. I only talk about my idea. Although this idea maybe impossible to be implemented. I hope you can give me some adivse, information or others, not your ridicule. Thanks in advance.

It's about as likely as getting windows phone 7 to work on the DHD. Without the source it's probably an impossible undertaking as the kernel will need to be rewritten with the correct hooks and drivers to work on the DHD.
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dr.m0x said:
It's about as likely as getting windows phone 7 to work on the DHD. Without the source it's probably an impossible undertaking as the kernel will need to be rewritten with the correct hooks and drivers to work on the DHD.
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Yes, I was agree with your opinion. The driver is really needed to be written for a new device. But for some basic peripheral such as touch-screen, may have a common driver between iphone and desire hd?

jilingshu said:
Yes, I was agree with your opinion. The driver is really needed to be written for a new device. But for some basic peripheral such as touch-screen, may have a common driver between iphone and desire hd?
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Highly unlikely in my opinion, if you want iOs on your phone buy an iphone.
BTW I'm sure if you did manage the port you would be unable to connect to iTunes to install apps so would be restricted to clydia etc

ghostofcain said:
Highly unlikely in my opinion, if you want iOs on your phone buy an iphone.
BTW I'm sure if you did manage the port you would be unable to connect to iTunes to install apps so would be restricted to clydia etc
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I just discuss about the possibility and gather information about this. So, do not suggest me to buy a iPhone. BTW: I'd like to buy a iPad2 when it released.

Why would you want iOS on a DHD?
That would be a downgrade

sromer said:
Why would you want iOS on a DHD?
That would be a downgrade
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Nowadays Android can run well on iPhone. So why not try to port iOS to Android phone?

I think a major issue would be the screen resolution; the DHD runs at 800x480 and the iphone4 runs at something like 960x640 this would mean that everything would just be wrong, and most probably wouldn't do anything at all. I don't think that it would really be viable for a dev to work on something like this, especially as quite a few of us (me for example) moved away from iOS for Android.

Wuzz3r said:
I think a major issue would be the screen resolution; the DHD runs at 800x480 and the iphone4 runs at something like 960x640 this would mean that everything would just be wrong, and most probably wouldn't do anything at all. I don't think that it would really be viable for a dev to work on something like this, especially as quite a few of us (me for example) moved away from iOS for Android.
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hmm... Resolution is a issue only for application developers... It should not be a problem for kernel porting I think.

i have been highly involved in OSX86 which is where you are porting mac osx to work on windows machines and from that, i can safely say that this project would involve so much work that you are essentially rewriting the whole OS

panyan said:
i have been highly involved in OSX86 which is where you are porting mac osx to work on windows machines and from that, i can safely say that this project would involve so much work that you are essentially rewriting the whole OS
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Yes. To driver the peripheral device, we have to write all the driver or at least, modify the original driver. Without the source code, this would be too hard.
BTW: Is it possible for us to port xnu(or the kernel of mac os x) to ARM platform just as iOS do?

And why would you want to
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you don't have iOS source right, you will have to disassemble and go thorugh lots of code, replace a lot of things, then fix so that every thing works in a flow..
This will take years! with no assurance of success again. you may also have to find security holes in iOS again to load it on a different phone.
If you had the source then few months!

Not to mention a possible law suit from Apple.

Hi folks.....it s possible have dualboot on DHD?how to install win7 on DHD? It s possible porting os6 of blackberry on DHD or HD2? thanks.....

^^^^ no its not possible right to put up Win7 on DHD! don't think anybody is going to work on that also.

But Win7 is ported to HD2, or not? Correct me, if i'm wrong. And if it's ported to HD2, it should be possible to port it to the DHD.

I think the problem is only the boot not the porting....because on the HD2 is possible load win7, linux, winxp, android, ecc ecc.....

IOs is like having an Sexually transmitted disease like chlamydia
Its common amongst people and has bad effects on the market.

fkofilee said:
IOs is like having an Sexually transmitted disease like chlamydia
Its common amongst people and has bad effects on the market.
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Ok,epic!
Anyway,why would anyone want iOS?I find it pure bs.But even if there was a way and a reason,would porting it be important enough to put you against Apple?Because,and excuse me everyone for the language I use,the bastards over at apple can sue you for naming a product with an "i" in front!

WP7 is calling me...Is google the next rome?

http://www.androidcentral.com/google-not-open-sourcing-honeycomb-says-bloomberg
I actually choked up when I saw this....

starplaya93 said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-not-open-sourcing-honeycomb-says-bloomberg
I actually choked up when I saw this....
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While I understand the reasons why they won't release Honeycomb code, Open means OPEN. My feelings are conflicted on this one.

They're delaying the release of the code and this has been taken way out of context.
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I may be exagerating my dissapointment, but this is just so taboo for google.... In all reality a closed source android is a second class ios... And when wp7 gains more momentum android wouldnt even be a consideration for me if they continued to not release source codes....
Then again, this probably is being taken out of context... Only time will tell I suppose
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If they named it TabOS 1.0 instead of Android 3.0 people wouldnt have this bizarre obsession with putting it on their phones. I for one don't want a tablet OS on my phone, it a phone OS on my tablet. Apple does it but it's dumb IMHO.
Frankly I wish tablets would go away anyways.
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what??? 2nd class os????
and if it is "closed".. going to wp7 will be different? how so???
this just does not make any sense

This as well as the engadget article bring up the point of google not wanting the reverse of what happened with froyo and manufacturers putting it on devices it's not meant for. Google cites they want to give the best experience to the customers; which means the 99% of users who don't come to xda. Unfortunately the lack of source code also effects us who want to put hc on our phones, optimized or not -especially since the devs here would optimize it. But a flood of smaller oem phones/small tablets that aren't designed for hc would just be crap.

Dan330 said:
what??? 2nd class os????
and if it is "closed".. going to wp7 will be different? how so???
this just does not make any sense
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WP7 & iOS = integrated experiences. They are optimized for specific hardware releases and have controlled updates. Which is why a lot of people are drawn to the Nexus phones.

wp7 and ios are closed...
he is leaving because it is closed (if it is closed) .. to another closed os.. which has yet to prove itself as a contender to de-throne android.
android is the top os.. and he thinks it is 2nd class.
but whatever.. see ya...

WP7 is the most boring and silly looking mobile OS on the market right now imo. And I agree with whoever said they should rename honeycomb, because its really not necessary on phones. Gingerbread is fine.

Award Tour said:
WP7 & iOS = integrated experiences. They are optimized for specific hardware releases and have controlled updates. Which is why a lot of people are drawn to the Nexus phones.
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Not to mention they each have there niche. WP7 with its integration with xbox live PLUS they have openly admitted that they are trying to workout a mutual relationship with "hackers" aka "us"....
There really isn't a need to explain what advantages ios has. I'm android all the way but i'm not arrogant enough to believe that ios isn't one hell of an os and that the iphone isn't a great piece of hardware....

matt2053 said:
If they named it TabOS 1.0 instead of Android 3.0 people wouldnt have this bizarre obsession with putting it on their phones. I for one don't want a tablet OS on my phone, it a phone OS on my tablet. Apple does it but it's dumb IMHO.
Frankly I wish tablets would go away anyways.
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my concern isn't that we won't be able to put honeycomb on our phones, didn't realize I even implied that... I'm just worried about this reoccurring in the future and possibly affecting future phone updates... I don't want a tablet os on my phone neither, but I also don't want a closed source phone (if I did i'd go to the iphone in a heart beat.)

starplaya93 said:
my concern isn't that we won't be able to put honeycomb on our phones, didn't realize I even implied that... I'm just worried about this reoccurring in the future and possibly affecting future phone updates... I don't want a tablet os on my phone neither, but I also don't want a closed source phone (if I did i'd go to the iphone in a heart beat.)
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You didn't imply it. It's in the article. Google cited it as one of the reasons for the delay.
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Dan330 said:
wp7 and ios are closed...
he is leaving because it is closed (if it is closed) .. to another closed os.. which has yet to prove itself as a contender to de-throne android.
android is the top os.. and he thinks it is 2nd class.
but whatever.. see ya...
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lol. Where is the justification for anything you're saying? Did you actually read my post or just skim through the title?

The part about not being able to port Honeycomb to phones doesn't really bother me as it's not designed for phones and may not run properly.
However, the real slight in this is Honeycomb tablet owners. If I owned a Xoom, a supposed open Google experience device, I would be enraged at not being able to utilize custom roms by other developers.
This essentially makes the fact that Motorola and Google opted to not include a bootloader in the Xoom worthless.
Similarly, with any Honeycomb tablets, including the upcoming LG and Samsung varieties, you'll essentially be running closed-off systems with no chance of custom roms.
I wasn't planning on buying a Honeycomb tablet anytime soon, but this pretty much seals the deal.

DirtyShroomz said:
They're delaying the release of the code and this has been taken way out of context.
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Dan330 said:
what??? 2nd class os????
and if it is "closed".. going to wp7 will be different? how so???
this just does not make any sense
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The implication is that, if the open aspect is taken out of android, and all we have left to compare the three (wp7, ios, and android), for some, android would no longer make the cut. And, in some ways, I tend to agree: most of what I love about my phone depends on having root access and source code.

matt2053 said:
You didn't imply it. It's in the article. Google cited it as one of the reasons for the delay.
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yes, i'm aware of that...
I just think everybody is missing the point of Androidcentral and Engadget posting this article, as well as the purpose of this thread...
Here is my concern in bold for you guys who don't understand...
WHAT DOES THIS FORESHADOW FOR GOOGLE AND ANDROID AS AN OS? WE NEVER IN OUR WILDEST DREAMS THOUGHT THEY WOULD LOCK THE SOURCE CODE FOR ANYTHING WITH ANDROID OS. WHAT ELSE ARE THEY CAPABLE/WILLING TO DO?
That is my concern folks.... If you're viewing this thread or any android development forum then more than likely its because android is an open source project.
I'm sure this will still go over the trolls heads, but so be it.

3.0 is not closed!!! Google just doesn't want outside developers playing with their source code that they haven't had time to optimize for smart phones.
Basically Google is baking ice cream 2.4 and wants us to get that first. Why would they release 3.0 which is "supposedly " just for tablets when they have put time and money into 2.4 specifically for smartphones. They have phones planned to run on stock off of that. If Google releases 3.0 why would people want to buy "downgraded " software on a flagship phone. Its all just business.
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Will never ever be closed this is how android became what it is now and how it will dominate the future.
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aray92 said:
3.0 is not closed!!! Google just doesn't want outside developers playing with their source code that they haven't had time to optimize for smart phones.
Basically Google is baking ice cream 2.4 and wants us to get that first. Why would they release 3.0 which is "supposedly " just for tablets when they have put time and money into 2.4 specifically for smartphones. They have phones planned to run on stock off of that. If Google releases 3.0 why would people want to buy "downgraded " software on a flagship phone. Its all just business.
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Will never ever be closed this is how android became what it is now and how it will dominate the future.
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I hope what you are saying is correct... at least for our sake

Windows Mobile 7 on Samsung Galaxy SII T-989

Who dares?
I own a Samsung Galaxy SII T-989 and, because I come from the "Windows" side rather than Linux or Apple, I would like to be able to completely wipe out the Gingerbred ROM that came with the phone and install a "cooked" ROM based on Windows Mobile 7 or, at least Windows Mobile 6.5.
I am hoping that, all those great developers connected to this site and spending so much time on cooking roms and rooting android phones, maybe one day they would look into this project that will become, I am sure, the greatest challenge, the pinnacle of all great things ever accomplished and recorded on this amazing forum.

Would be cool to dual boot like the HD2 days. But TBH Sui, we barely have any devs for anroid let alone start a whole new can of worms with WP7. Like the idea though.... +1

Wp7 doesn't support multiple cores.
$1 gets you a reply

Kailkti said:
Wp7 doesn't support multiple cores.
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Except for, you know, the already released dual-core WP7 phones.

Good Point Kallkti, but soon it will. I was at a mircosoft event and we will see an update in a few months to support it. In theory couldnt we just use one core like ....idk the original froyo/GB code, and keep the second core sleeping. I never wrote kernel code im only asking

lol we dont even have a working CM7 or Miui...yet you want this?! i dont think it'll ever happen

GS2 doesn't meet hardware requirements for 6 hardware buttons and who knows what else, but seems to me if someone wants a WM7 phone, you get one.
Another thought - get an HTC HD2 - ROMs available for WM 6.5, 7 and just about every flavor of android available. A little slow (1 GHz) but satisfies all other requests.

I think it'd be awesome, been thinking about this myself. Probably damn difficult if not impossible to do at this point.
My girlfriend has a Samsung focus and it's pretty sweet. I find myself getting jealous over her phone at times especially with the zune pass lol.
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Sui Generis said:
Who dares?
I own a Samsung Galaxy SII T-989 and, because I come from the "Windows" side rather than Linux or Apple, I would like to be able to completely wipe out the Gingerbred ROM that came with the phone and install a "cooked" ROM based on Windows Mobile 7 or, at least Windows Mobile 6.5.
I am hoping that, all those great developers connected to this site and spending so much time on cooking roms and rooting android phones, maybe one day they would look into this project that will become, I am sure, the greatest challenge, the pinnacle of all great things ever accomplished and recorded on this amazing forum.
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Why would you ruin a perfectly good phone and turn it into an unstable brick?

The question is not who dares. But why? Lol
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They have not released any dual core wp7 phones.

Windows Phone 7 will never work unless Microsoft makes it open source. The Hd2 was lucky only because the Hd7 has the same exact internals and even that phone doesn't run Windows flawlessly.
Its like trying to put iOS or RIM's software on the GSII. It will never work and if you are lucky to get it to boot it will be extremely buggy!!!!
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I just don't understand why you would want that OS on such an amazing piece of hardware. WM7 in my opinion is just too limited in the things you can do, hence the reason why people including myself rid of 6.5 from their HD2's.

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Except for, you know, the already released dual-core WP7 phones.
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What windowsphone7 phones have you seen with dual cores? Even the top of the line phones are single core be ause the OS doesn't support it yet.
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wp7 runs extremely smooth and looks very nice. i don't know why this phone has no cool stuff, we have a bunch of competent developers, even cyanogen is working on this phone. i'm hoping that in the next 3 months development will explode for this phone.

like stated before if we can't even get a stable version of cm7 or miui we are deff not getting this here....... lol

If it's looks you want there might be a launcher theme out there you could try
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Sui Generis said:
Who dares?
I own a Samsung Galaxy SII T-989 and, because I come from the "Windows" side rather than Linux or Apple, I would like to be able to completely wipe out the Gingerbred ROM that came with the phone and install a "cooked" ROM based on Windows Mobile 7 or, at least Windows Mobile 6.5.
I am hoping that, all those great developers connected to this site and spending so much time on cooking roms and rooting android phones, maybe one day they would look into this project that will become, I am sure, the greatest challenge, the pinnacle of all great things ever accomplished and recorded on this amazing forum.
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i still have my hd2. its cool as hell but i never used wm6-7. why because it sucks-hard. why would you want that? Oh if you like wm and like your phone, download a wm7 launcher. i think thats going to be the most development youll see.

Charlie Brown said:
The question is not who dares. But why? Lol
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Windows Phone 7.5 is a better OS than Android. Does it have as much developer support? No. But speaking strictly of the OS itself, it's much more efficient, handles battery life much better, is smoother out of the box. It just needs more love from software developers.
That said, what the OP is suggesting is never going to happen. Least of all on the Hercules/T989

OriginalMemnock said:
Windows Phone 7.5 is a better OS than Android. Does it have as much developer support? No. But speaking strictly of the OS itself, it's much more efficient, handles battery life much better, is smoother out of the box. It just needs more love from software developers.
That said, what the OP is suggesting is never going to happen. Least of all on the Hercules/T989
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Ya saying Windows phone anything is better than android is just straight up garbage sorry. If that was the case it wouldn't have 1% marketshare while the richest company in the world is marketing and pushing it.
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[Q] WebOS?

Hi I would ask this in the developer forum but i can't post there yet so I'm stuck here...I was wondering if it would be possible to get webos on the kindle fire 2nd gen I know its not the popular but I think webos would be a great addition to the list of os's we could run...Thanks for reading this.

Wow, never heard of it, had to look it up... Well if its open source it might be possible, but it doesn't look like its using a android base, only a Linux base from what I read. And yes I know android is Linux based but there's some stuff that's compiled a certain way for android Linux. Like the fact we use a android arm compiler and such and some android options in the kernel defconfig. I don't have time to look into it myself, I already am trying to debug Firefox OS, which from what I heard may be similar to webOS in the sense I think both are HTML driven. I have a port running on the 7" HD, shouldn't take much doing to compile a build for the other models as well, I just haven't gotten around to it. I might take a look at webOS's source code just to see what kinda porting process it has but from what I read its more of an os used on TV's than phones at the moment. Then again that was wiki.
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I forgot about Firefox os I think it would be awesome to have it running I could try and help you port it if you wouldn't mind guiding me a little in the beginning. I will also see about porting web os myself but it could take along time.
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My Firefox port is pretty much ready to compile for the other kindles theoretically, I just might have to adjust some selinux properties like I did on the 7" that overlapped with ones set by hashcode. I was just holding off on building it for the other devices because of numerous bugs I've been trying to fix but I don't know c++ and I haven't had any devs volunteer. I might run a build off sometime this week I'll let you test since I don't have the device. I might have to clear my Firefox os source code directory out soon to make room for a project I'm trying to do on a old pos phone that has hardly any support. Long story short I'm cheap, have no micro-sdcard's handy, and can't flash any ROMs on it from cwm without a sdcard so I said why not compile twrp... Then I found out that I couldn't find any of the device tree published for the cm 10.1 build... But yea maybe I'll build a test build and see if it works, more than likely though I'm assuming video playback will be broken. If you know any c++ and want to help with porting I have the source code published on my github with some instructions, just look at my thread in the 7" dev section. Not sure if I committed the gralloc fix changes yet to the repo so it switches out of shmem.
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I don't know any c++ but within the next few months I'll hopefully be getting into college for c++ and java and I do plan on learning a little before then so hopefully with enough work we could get Firefox os running just as good as android on these tablets
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Sweet, I should try signing up again this year and see if I can get in myself. Had issues in the past because I don't have an SAT on record due to some unfortunate circumstances.
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im going to my community college and i'll be able to take the SAT placement test there that might be something you could look into i dont know how community colleges to it other states or cities but where i live thats an option

I assume we can take SAT's here at the colleges but I graduated highschool about 3 years ago so I need some prepping.
Well good news is I updated some of the setup so now I can begin a port for kf2, bad news is I am missing something from my manifest I assume, and so I keep getting a nice "no rule to make target" error, I have a theory as to what I'm missing but I'm not positive.
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Awesome I can't wait until Firefox is on here and due to some health issues ( flu like cold ) I havent touched my computer in a few days I should get back to working on stuff today of tomorrow tho
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[ROOT] Install a full Linux distribution on Amazon HD 10?

Cross posting this from another thread I made. For those of you, who now have Root, I am wondering if any of you would be interested in installing a Linux Distribution alongside your Android OS...well Fire OS. I have tested this on 4 devices so far, one being the Amazon HD 8.9. Since the HD 10 just got root, I am interested to see how a Linux OS would work on Fire OS, if at all. This would be a fully operational installation of a Linux distribution that runs alongside of Android.
If you're concerned about bricking your tablet, don't worry, this is very, very low risk, and pretty much impossible to brick your device. It will either work, or it won't. It's that simple. Note you need at least 4GB free space of internal storage, or if you have an sdcard slot, you can partition part of it to install a Linux distribution (that will be part two of my guide). I believe this will be a success on these tablets because I've tested it on three vastly different Samsung devices, with success on all of them. Samsung customizes (butchers) the framework in much of the same fashion as Amazon. If it works on the Kindle 8.9, it should work equally as good, maybe even better on the HD 10.
Please see my long, but detailed XDA guide.

Got it working but, its not proper. App Image runner ontop of the OG OS.

darksoul21 said:
Got it working but, its not proper. App Image runner ontop of the OG OS.
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I'm not sure what you mean?

DragonFire1024 said:
I'm not sure what you mean?
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Its like running a VM. Is there a way to get a full install instead?

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Its like running a VM. Is there a way to get a full install instead?
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This is a 'full install.' you need the VNC if you want a graphical interface. You can also use a ssh client, but I haven't been able to figure that out yet.
If you want to replace android with Linux, it just isn't possible anymore. For now, this is about as good as you are going to get. I'm almost done with the second Guide. Perhaps that's more what you mean.

DragonFire1024 said:
This is a 'full install.' you need the VNC if you want a graphical interface. You can also use a ssh client, but I haven't been able to figure that out yet.
If you want to replace android with Linux, it just isn't possible anymore. For now, this is about as good as you are going to get. I'm almost done with the second Guide. Perhaps that's more what you mean.
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Its a Virtual Machine running on top of android. So your stuck with the available resources from the primary OS (android).
Its better than nothing since this device is basically dead on this Forum.

darksoul21 said:
Its a Virtual Machine running on top of android. So your stuck with the available resources from the primary OS (android).
Its better than nothing since this device is basically dead on this Forum.
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Not true. You can download apps and what not. You can do just about the same things as you could in a desktop with Linux. You have git, gcc, etc. But at the moment l, unless you have a Nexus, this is the best there is. The virtual aspect is unavoidable.

DragonFire1024 said:
Not true. You can download apps and what not. You can do just about the same things as you could in a desktop with Linux. You have git, gcc, etc. But at the moment l, unless you have a Nexus, this is the best there is. The virtual aspect is unavoidable.
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You can do all that in a virtual machine. What he's saying is, since it's a vm, you only get access to system resources not in use by the host operating system. No complaints. Again, it's better than nothing if that kind of thing is what you're looking for.

sturner83 said:
You can do all that in a virtual machine. What he's saying is, since it's a vm, you only get access to system resources not in use by the host operating system. No complaints. Again, it's better than nothing if that kind of thing is what you're looking for.
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Right. But you can interact with those resources. This has always been the only mass way to install Linux. There used to be a way, but I couldn't replicate it. Keep an eye on Ubuntu though.

I'm interested but will it run native or chroot?

Franzferdinan51 said:
I'm interested but will it run native or chroot?
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Supposed to be both, but have only been able to get chroot going.
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I think native might require BL unlock but I'm not even close to an expert I will say that it whould be cool to port a ChromeOS varient chromium or cloudready even

Franzferdinan51 said:
I think native might require BL unlock but I'm not even close to an expert I will say that it whould be cool to port a ChromeOS varient chromium or cloudready even
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I think, though I'll have to look, I had a Gentoo Android installation. I never tried it and not sure if I still have it. Supposedly it just needs installing into /data. I'll look for it and a link and post my findings a little later.
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Not close to expert on Android on ARM myself, although I used to dumpster dive for 386 PCs when I discovered linux and 486s we're just coming out, and I was "stuck" with a 68k Mac. Bought the first bootable Linux CD back in the 90s (Debian), got Linux running on a DEC Alpha soon after, so I've been around the block. I don't see any reason at all to get linux on a Fire except as an academic challenge. ChromiumOS (and ChromeOS) are crippled Linux. Period. CloudReady is just Chrome tweaked for old x86 PCs. Linux itself would just give you some extra developer tools, maybe. Perhaps a pro might secretly do penetration testing with a Kindle that way, but it would be like trying to fish with firecrackers. Might as well get a RPi. Is there a particular app you want to run? I can see trying to break from Amazon's walled garden with an alt Android, but anything else and you might as well write your own OS. That's about the level of challenge you're talking about. Dragonfire1024- am I right? I don't mean to be harsh, just realistic. Personally, I'd rather spend time on development boards like the Pi, than reverse engineer a Fire to that extent.

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Not close to expert on Android on ARM myself, although I used to dumpster dive for 386 PCs when I discovered linux and 486s we're just coming out, and I was "stuck" with a 68k Mac. Bought the first bootable Linux CD back in the 90s (Debian), got Linux running on a DEC Alpha soon after, so I've been around the block. I don't see any reason at all to get linux on a Fire except as an academic challenge. ChromiumOS (and ChromeOS) are crippled Linux. Period. CloudReady is just Chrome tweaked for old x86 PCs. Linux itself would just give you some extra developer tools, maybe. Perhaps a pro might secretly do penetration testing with a Kindle that way, but it would be like trying to fish with firecrackers. Might as well get a RPi. Is there a particular app you want to run? I can see trying to break from Amazon's walled garden with an alt Android, but anything else and you might as well write your own OS. That's about the level of challenge you're talking about. Dragonfire1024- am I right? I don't mean to be harsh, just realistic. Personally, I'd rather spend time on development boards like the Pi, than reverse engineer a Fire to that extent.
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To each their own I guess. My goal is to at some point get nethunter to work in a better capacity than this guide. There's a lot more you can do with parts of Linux. For example, attempt to root other devices, build parts of or whole ROMs, etc.
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Has there been any progress on this? I'm looking to use this as digital signage where there isn't space in a wall box for a RPi or similar SBC.

sorry for posting this question here but it I've tried to find a better place and failed...what's the best option(s) for this thing if it hasn't been rooted already? I'm ready to just sell it and move on if I can't do something other than what Amazon intended.

Ubuntu touch on fire hd 8
I would love to put Ubuntu touch on my 8" fire has this been done and can I use ubports to do it and what works??