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Simple Question.... Re: Kernel

I know I need a Kernel that supports overclocking before I use something like CPUBoost... which one can anyone recommend that is stable and would allow this.
Sorry this is my first time posting in this forum... was using the Eris up until yesterday.
Thanks in advance.

drtchocky said:
I know I need a Kernel that supports overclocking before I use something like CPUBoost... which one can anyone recommend that is stable and would allow this.
Sorry this is my first time posting in this forum... was using the Eris up until yesterday.
Thanks in advance.
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It's all preference, depends on if you are using an AOSP rom or Sense rom. Try them out for yourself and then decide, everyone gets different results.

I'm just throwing this out there we can only overclock our phones a wee bit and it for me at least destroys battery life.
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I am looking to underclock for the most part with screen off settings.... I want to get a full day out of this phone somehow.

drtchocky said:
I am looking to underclock for the most part with screen off settings.... I want to get a full day out of this phone somehow.
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honestly you could probably get away with just installing some of the AOSP kernels floating around the Dev threads...I LOVE invisibleks line of kernels, #28 is a champion for me...but I believe the new Tiamat line of kernels is concentrating on aggressive undervolting...I would give them a try

Might try that... it's weird, coming from an Eris, there's definitely a more professional way about this forum. BUT (big but).... the ROM's seems to be overall more incomplete and I am worried about losing somee functionality. So installing a Kernel would be my best bet I guess.... being I would retain all the functionality of the stock ROM.
Hope I make sense.

Oh the other thing is... when a kernel is AOSP compatible, that means stock ROM also right?

drtchocky said:
Oh the other thing is... when a kernel is AOSP compatible, that means stock ROM also right?
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Nope. Stock is sense.
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PonsAsinorem said:
Nope. Stock is sense.
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well I installed a Kernel that was AOSP compatible and it seems to be working.... weird?

[Q] Gingersense kernals?

with all the new gingersense stuff coming out is anyone working on a kernal that is OC's cause the kingdom rom kinda needs it

I'm sure people are working on it... as always when something comes out, the devs here grab it and do what they want with it.. seems like a pretty rhetorical question..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8903432&postcount=4

werdna87 said:
with all the new gingersense stuff coming out is anyone working on a kernal that is OC's cause the kingdom rom kinda needs it
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+1
sense 3.0 is very nice. just a little slow for me. id really just like the lockscreen from 3.0 on a 2.0 rom

sruel3216 said:
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sense 3.0 is very nice. just a little slow for me. id really just like the lockscreen from 3.0 on a 2.0 rom
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i totally agree but i have noticed even a little OC on some roms makes a ton of difference on their performance

You need source code to compile a custom kernel.
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wdfowty said:
You need source code to compile a custom kernel.
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couldn't we get that from the leak?

werdna87 said:
couldn't we get that from the leak?
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A leak doesn't come with ssource code lol.

GRZLA said:
A leak doesn't come with ssource code lol.
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oh... i know nothing about this but how did we get the source code for the current kernels?

werdna87 said:
oh... i know nothing about this but how did we get the source code for the current kernels?
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HTC will release source after gingersense becomes an OTA, but its up to them when they want to post it really.

GRZLA said:
HTC will release source after gingersense becomes an OTA, but its up to them when they want to post it really.
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so then we are going to be stuck with crappy battery life for a while then and slow sense 3.0 ports... NICE

werdna87 said:
so then we are going to be stuck with crappy battery life for a while then and slow sense 3.0 ports... NICE
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Just be grateful you even have a gingersense 3.0 port to play with. Download Juice Defender if you're really that worried.

I don't think 3.0 needs overclock works fine for me very snappy if u have the patience to let it fully load
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I'm not sure what a KERNAL is. Sounds similar to a kernel Kidding . But kernels will be released over time. You don't necessarily need the source for a kernel, because you can look back to the OG Droid's FroYo leaks had hacked together kernels without any source and it was being overclocked.

Matt4542 said:
I'm not sure what a KERNAL is. Sounds similar to a kernel Kidding . But kernels will be released over time. You don't necessarily need the source for a kernel, because you can look back to the OG Droid's FroYo leaks had hacked together kernels without any source and it was being overclocked.
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haha ik i kinda fail at spelling... and i am REALLY happy with the Gingersense 3.0 but i do kinda need battery life also and have found juice defender hasn't done that much

Matt4542 said:
I'm not sure what a KERNAL is. Sounds similar to a kernel Kidding . But kernels will be released over time. You don't necessarily need the source for a kernel, because you can look back to the OG Droid's FroYo leaks had hacked together kernels without any source and it was being overclocked.
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It's probably possible to overclock with a module, like what the Droid X/2 are using. I'm no kernel hacker though, just a lowly porter
There is a tradeoff, however. If you want OC, the battery life will suffer even more than stock.
Best bet is to use SetCPU to set some profiles.

Great conversation but this thread is in the way wrong category. I really wish I was a mod...

wildstang83 said:
Great conversation but this thread is in the way wrong category. I really wish I was a mod...
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woops... sorry about that im kinda new to XDA... i thought it might have to do with development cause it has to do with kernels? idk sorry

No harm intended. Your op just came of as a question which should be in the questions section. Like I said, great topic though.

yah but it was a development related questions so...

werdna87 said:
yah but it was a development related questions so...
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But still a question. Read the link posted on the first page, and the stickies at the top of this forum.

Overclock

Can u overclock the dinc and if u can how do u do it. Thanks in advance
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There are a couple of ways to overclock the dInc, but it depends on which kernel you use and what ROM you have. For froyo, Ziggy's are probably the best. Tiamat is very nice for AOSP gingerbread. An app called SetCPU can be found for free to XDA members on here. Just Google it. There's also a couple free apps on the market. If you're still using froyo, I suggest only Ziggy's because his will allow you to use scripts to change the speed and the voltage at every step and he lays it all out very nicely, including samples that you can just edit and mix together. The benefit of the script is it doesn't use system resources like an app would.
Pushing it to 1.153 should be hard with most kernels so long as they aren't undervolted. Some devices are stable at 1.19 and some even higher. Few will exceed 1.19 though. Overclocking and tweaking kernels can be an interesting thing. Most kernels with a sysfs or ramdisk will allow some kind of scripting. Definitely check out Chad's IncrediControl.

Another good kernel for ASOP Roms (both gingerbread and Froyo) is Incredikernel. Always check and see if the Rom you want to overclockable and if it doesn't say in the OP ask the creator of the Rom, they'd be happy to help you out. Also, make sure you know the correct way to flash a kernel. It's the same way you flash a Rom, so it shouldn't give you any trouble. Happy Flashing and Overclocking!

Thank-you guys. I'm using kingdom rewind 3d so ill ask joelz if it overclockable and if not...so be it. Once again thanks for the replies
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evilstewie23 said:
Thank-you guys. I'm using kingdom rewind 3d so ill ask joelz if it overclockable and if not...so be it. Once again thanks for the replies
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No prob! Always happy to help!

evilstewie23 said:
Thank-you guys. I'm using kingdom rewind 3d so ill ask joelz if it overclockable and if not...so be it. Once again thanks for the replies
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None of the gingersense ROM's will be overclockable until HTC releases the kernel source. Which will happen sometime after we get the OTA. So it's either Froyo Sense or AOSP Gingerbread if you have to overclock.

BrettApple said:
None of the gingersense ROM's will be overclockable until HTC releases the kernel source. Which will happen sometime after we get the OTA. So it's either Froyo Sense or AOSP Gingerbread if you have to overclock.
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I thought about that, but I wasn't for sure. Thanks for the info.
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BrettApple said:
None of the gingersense ROM's will be overclockable until HTC releases the kernel source. Which will happen sometime after we get the OTA. So it's either Froyo Sense or AOSP Gingerbread if you have to overclock.
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ALRIGHT thanks for the info guess ill just have to wait cause I love sense 3.0.
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BrettApple said:
None of the gingersense ROM's will be overclockable until HTC releases the kernel source. Which will happen sometime after we get the OTA. So it's either Froyo Sense or AOSP Gingerbread if you have to overclock.
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Not sure that's true. I'm overclocking the kernel on this Tbolt and there's no source released for it either.

loonatik78 said:
Not sure that's true. I'm overclocking the kernel on this Tbolt and there's no source released for it either.
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could you post a link to the thread of your rom? please

tribbey said:
could you post a link to the thread of your rom? please
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http://www.themikmik.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=278&t=2063
It's not available on XDA anymore. I'm actually running Ziggy's kernel on it now. I'm gonna change my sig in a second.

I have found if the ROM is developed well enough, overclocking is not needed. You wont see too many benefits.

vince47 said:
I have found if the ROM is developed well enough, overclocking is not needed. You wont see too many benefits.
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On 3G, not really. On fast WiFi or LTE, yes. That's when you're looking at situations where the device isn't waiting for data. That's where you'll see the bigger benefits of overclocking.

loonatik78 said:
On 3G, not really. On fast WiFi or LTE, yes. That's when you're looking at situations where the device isn't waiting for data. That's where you'll see the bigger benefits of overclocking.
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Notion seconded
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Kind of off topic, but what benchmarks (apps) are you guys using to determine the effectiveness of your overclock?

baboonsRus said:
Kind of off topic, but what benchmarks (apps) are you guys using to determine the effectiveness of your overclock?
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Doesn't really matter. Quadrant, linpack... you're comparing same setup to same setup. An overclock on one isn't going to yield comparatively different results when compared to any other... at least it SHOULDN'T.

This may be a stupid question...I am having trouble with all the kernels and ROMs determining what is a safe OC for my DInc. I am flashing CM7.0.3 now and I read that it's got OC built-in. I just wanted to OC to whatever is definitely safe. Is that 1.113 GHz or 1.153 GHz as indicated earlier in the thread?
Or is it something I'm going to have test on my device to see if it exhibits a specific symptom?

piperp said:
This may be a stupid question...I am having trouble with all the kernels and ROMs determining what is a safe OC for my DInc. I am flashing CM7.0.3 now and I read that it's got OC built-in. I just wanted to OC to whatever is definitely safe. Is that 1.113 GHz or 1.153 GHz as indicated earlier in the thread?
Or is it something I'm going to have test on my device to see if it exhibits a specific symptom?
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Your milage may vary, but usually when things become unstable you can't really naviagte to anything and you get a bunch of reboots, or so it has been in my case, but again YMMV.
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piperp said:
This may be a stupid question...I am having trouble with all the kernels and ROMs determining what is a safe OC for my DInc. I am flashing CM7.0.3 now and I read that it's got OC built-in. I just wanted to OC to whatever is definitely safe. Is that 1.113 GHz or 1.153 GHz as indicated earlier in the thread?
Or is it something I'm going to have test on my device to see if it exhibits a specific symptom?
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Every kernel dev has his own choices for kernel voltage and that's usually the single biggest variable in what stable will be. 1.113 should be stable for most devices though.

Thanks for the responses. I tried 1.113 on CM7 (7.0.3) on my Incredible and I started getting constant reboots. I put it back to 998. Maybe I'll try another setting later.

Best stable working rom?

Hello everyone! I receive my Dinc2 tomorrow and I am coming from the crappy locked down DX2 I was using cm7 on the x2. But since I am new to this device I was wondering what is the best solid running rom with everything working? The cm7 you have now? I would love to try ics but it seems most still have issues? Those I can play with those on my days off but need a solid phone for work.
Last question since I have never had a unlocked bootloader then will stock kernal work with most these roms? I already have the software downloaded to downgrade and s off. I will used the revolution way to do so and get cwr. Thanks in advance and I look forward to using this new device and hopefully meet some nice people like I did on the x2
Also for the record I did search around but being new to this site I was not sure what is up to date.

I recommend SkyRaider Zeus for stability or ICS if you're more daring.

Yo, go miui, I had cm7dx2 and never tried ace's miui, but miui dinc2 is awesome. I use the gb miui 1.12.90 because I like its stability. Never tried ics miui because I fell in love so much I haven't found time to switch!
Coming from cm7 dx2, I didn't think that zeus was as full featured, but hey maybe you'll like it.
And welcome to the community! Congrats on making the jump from big evil moto!
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Thanks for the feedback! I have been reading as much as I can since Friday. Downloaded software to get the s off and cwr. I will make a nano back up and try out a rom. Miui I have to admit I tried Dragonzkiller alpha and stayed with cm7. I have heard great things about Miui so I might give it a shot. I know cm7 should also be good. I am just to new to know if there are any other roms better that I never heard of before. Well thanks again back to searching and reading post.

Ihatepullups said:
Yo, go miui, I had cm7dx2 and never tried ace's miui, but miui dinc2 is awesome. I use the gb miui 1.12.90 because I like its stability. Never tried ics miui because I fell in love so much I haven't found time to switch!
Coming from cm7 dx2, I didn't think that zeus was as full featured, but hey maybe you'll like it.
And welcome to the community! Congrats on making the jump from big evil moto!
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Where are you finding that version of Miui? I looked at the sticky with rom list in development. I do not see it except for ics version.
When I searched for sky raider only themes were coming.g up.

Travisdroidx2 said:
Where are you finding that version of Miui? I looked at the sticky with rom list in development. I do not see it except for ics version.
When I searched for sky raider only themes were coming.g up.
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That version of MIUI can be found here
And SkyRaider Zeus can be found here

klabit87 said:
That version of MIUI can be found here
And SkyRaider Zeus can be found here
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Thank you very much. This device has so many things it can do. It makes the DX2 look like a toy. And my screenname is cursed by it lol. So glad to leave motorola!

Lol if you have any questions about skyraider don't hesitate to email/pm me. I had that rom from when it was in beta status up until about 2 weeks ago I switched to aeroevans cm9. Skyraider is the most stable sense rom I ever tried.
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Thanks I am sure as I learn more I will be trying many roms including ics

You will need to flash a custom CWM for ICS though.

sjpritch25 said:
You will need to flash a custom CWM for ICS though.
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??? I never did. And I am running cwm 5.0.2.0
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sjpritch25 said:
You will need to flash a custom CWM for ICS though.
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Thanks!! That is very good to know. I was happy with cm7 before. I like the looks of skyraider rom. One thing I am not sure about on the x2 nanodroid did not change the kernal. Will in on this? So if I make a stock nano am I safe to flash away in a sense?

Travisdroidx2 said:
Thanks!! That is very good to know. I was happy with cm7 before. I like the looks of skyraider rom. One thing I am not sure about on the x2 nanodroid did not change the kernal. Will in on this? So if I make a stock nano am I safe to flash away in a sense?
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Nandroid backs up your kernel and rom. So say you nand a sense rom and has a custom kernel for it. And you then flash cm9 with aeros kernel. When you restore the nand you will have sense and the sense kernel again.
Also I ran gb miui from the time we got it till we got ics. If you have any questions about miui shoot me or ubuntunerd a pm.
Dear Inc2 owners..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068236
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killall drmserver

Wow this is so awesome! Thank you all for the help! I am a noob to this phone but not to the site. I will catch up fast thanks again! This phone blows my x2 out the water. Also to knipp21 thanks for the tip! I have read enough to know you are a local expert someone I can trust. I look forward to reading your post to others and learning what I can. Thanks again!
Also any preferred kernels or should I just stick with stock?

Travisdroidx2 said:
Wow this is so awesome! Thank you all for the help! I am a noob to this phone but not to the site. I will catch up fast thanks again! This phone blows my x2 out the water. Also to knipp21 thanks for the tip! I have read enough to know you are a local expert someone I can trust. I look forward to reading your post to others and learning what I can. Thanks again!
Also any preferred kernels or should I just stick with stock?
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For miui you can do stock. I used aeros kernels back then. Now I use them on his ics rom. His v9 kernel works for aosp gb too so try it out.
Also one thing I do in miui is use with go launcher. Or create a folder in the stock launcher to use as an "app drawer"
Another rarely told thing is this phone is over clock able to 1.8 but best performance is around 1.5 and most ppl stay around 1.2 with the smartassv2 or on demand.
Anything else just search and ask me if you can't find it. Most of the x2 guys have been pretty good so far. Glad to have y'all here
Dear Inc2 owners..
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Thank you again so much! Tomorrow I will be happy to add to your thank meter I ran out already.

Travisdroidx2 said:
Thank you again so much! Tomorrow I will be happy to add to your thank meter I ran out already.
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Haha no problem. As long as you don't ask how to fix the market in aeros cm9 or for the camera fix in aokp we are all good jk
If you are liking sense so far give condemned souls sense rom a shot too.
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Lol no I read that part already market what market????

knipp21 said:
For miui you can do stock. I used aeros kernels back then. Now I use them on his ics rom. His v9 kernel works for aosp gb too so try it out.
Also one thing I do in miui is use with go launcher. Or create a folder in the stock launcher to use as an "app drawer"
Another rarely told thing is this phone is over clock able to 1.8 but best performance is around 1.5 and most ppl stay around 1.2 with the smartassv2 or on demand.
Anything else just search and ask me if you can't find it. Most of the x2 guys have been pretty good so far. Glad to have y'all here
Dear Inc2 owners..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068236
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Is it a significant difference if you overclock to 1.2Ghz? Mine is currently running on 1GHz, and I was worried about the battery life then.

Thank you all specially Knipp21 and litetaker. You both helped me out alot. I flashed miui in a matter of minutes. Looked very sweet but so new to me I am not sure how to get it set up and stable for me yet. So I will come back to it. Then flashed the CM7 what I am used to so I can get it ready for work tomorrow. I look forward to flashing different roms and wven trying the ICS. I love the fact that the nano backups actually change the kernal as well this phone is bad ass!

Galaxy Nexus Kernel?

Hey guys,
recently rooted my phone (for the first time) and flashed CM10. I've been reading about Kernels and how they can improve battery life and performance and stuff.
I haven't really understood how a kernel would work. Can I just flash it like how I flashed a ROM? Would it 'delete' my earlier CM10 kernel?
Which kernels are compatible with CM10? Which is the best for battery life and snappiness of the processor?
I've heard of Lean,PopcornKernal, and of course, francos.
Thanks,
Sahil

All of them are good. There isn't a best kernel. You should really stay away from asking those questions. And if you don't tune the kernel there is no way to get any difference than from stock.
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Im not sure if cm10 requires its own set of kernels but my phone liked the air kernel (ran cooler) and lean (as a bonus removed the purply tint at lower brightness)
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ÜBER™ said:
All of them are good. There isn't a best kernel. You should really stay away from asking those questions. And if you don't tune the kernel there is no way to get any difference than from stock.
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Please explain how you tube your kernel.
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jakeneal22 said:
Please explain how you tube your kernel.
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depends on the kernel, on the device and on the user.
mpu/core/iva voltages, smartreflex and color control are a few examples.
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SahilC said:
I haven't really understood how a kernel would work. Can I just flash it like how I flashed a ROM? Would it 'delete' my earlier CM10 kernel?
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kernels are like the engine to a car/rom. They're pretty much what manages and drives everything, whereas the rom is like the entire OS.
Every ROM comes with a kernel by default but it can be replaced simply by flashing a kernel on top of it. Conversely, flashing a rom will replace whatever kernel you're running now with the rom's kernel.
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Please explain how you tube your kernel.
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Many kernels come with their apps (which can be found in their threads), or some apps might have access to some properties. Also, some roms (cm comes to mind) have access to some properties of some kernels, though there was a recent fuss made about incompatibility so its not perfect.

Franco Kernel
Hey guys! I want to root my GN and I'm a bit confused about what Kernel use...
I have seen this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367341
Did anyone try the newest version of Franco Kernel (r292)? What's about stability, battery drains, lags... ?

I'd recommend trying Franco's kernel out, it is supported by a nice updater app that can auto-flash the kernel and keep you informed of updates. Doing a bit of research yourself is also always recommended here - this site is for learning about your device. Good luck!

James bond kernal claims to be best in battry life , bt acc. To me trinity alpha 67 with setcpu profiles provide best results.

PoorOldMoot said:
I'd recommend trying Franco's kernel out, it is supported by a nice updater app that can auto-flash the kernel and keep you informed of updates. Doing a bit of research yourself is also always recommended here - this site is for learning about your device. Good luck!
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OK thanks! I'll test it as soon as!

The Best trinity alpha 67 for 4.1.2. .
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