Hey guys,
recently rooted my phone (for the first time) and flashed CM10. I've been reading about Kernels and how they can improve battery life and performance and stuff.
I haven't really understood how a kernel would work. Can I just flash it like how I flashed a ROM? Would it 'delete' my earlier CM10 kernel?
Which kernels are compatible with CM10? Which is the best for battery life and snappiness of the processor?
I've heard of Lean,PopcornKernal, and of course, francos.
Thanks,
Sahil
All of them are good. There isn't a best kernel. You should really stay away from asking those questions. And if you don't tune the kernel there is no way to get any difference than from stock.
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Im not sure if cm10 requires its own set of kernels but my phone liked the air kernel (ran cooler) and lean (as a bonus removed the purply tint at lower brightness)
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All of them are good. There isn't a best kernel. You should really stay away from asking those questions. And if you don't tune the kernel there is no way to get any difference than from stock.
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Please explain how you tube your kernel.
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Please explain how you tube your kernel.
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depends on the kernel, on the device and on the user.
mpu/core/iva voltages, smartreflex and color control are a few examples.
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SahilC said:
I haven't really understood how a kernel would work. Can I just flash it like how I flashed a ROM? Would it 'delete' my earlier CM10 kernel?
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kernels are like the engine to a car/rom. They're pretty much what manages and drives everything, whereas the rom is like the entire OS.
Every ROM comes with a kernel by default but it can be replaced simply by flashing a kernel on top of it. Conversely, flashing a rom will replace whatever kernel you're running now with the rom's kernel.
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Please explain how you tube your kernel.
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Many kernels come with their apps (which can be found in their threads), or some apps might have access to some properties. Also, some roms (cm comes to mind) have access to some properties of some kernels, though there was a recent fuss made about incompatibility so its not perfect.
Franco Kernel
Hey guys! I want to root my GN and I'm a bit confused about what Kernel use...
I have seen this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367341
Did anyone try the newest version of Franco Kernel (r292)? What's about stability, battery drains, lags... ?
I'd recommend trying Franco's kernel out, it is supported by a nice updater app that can auto-flash the kernel and keep you informed of updates. Doing a bit of research yourself is also always recommended here - this site is for learning about your device. Good luck!
James bond kernal claims to be best in battry life , bt acc. To me trinity alpha 67 with setcpu profiles provide best results.
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I'd recommend trying Franco's kernel out, it is supported by a nice updater app that can auto-flash the kernel and keep you informed of updates. Doing a bit of research yourself is also always recommended here - this site is for learning about your device. Good luck!
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OK thanks! I'll test it as soon as!
The Best trinity alpha 67 for 4.1.2. .
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Which would be best? I also want to overclock this bad boy....
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Which would be best? I also want to overclock this bad boy....
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Well Franco 18.6 only OCs to 1.35Ghz.
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Soon franco will have an experimental branch and I'll bet we'll have 1.65ghz back
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Overclocking doesn't necessarily man it's better. I'm using francos but undertaking it to 1000. still smooth and lasts longer
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you can still find his old kernels somewhere.... just search for it.
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Which would be best? I also want to overclock this bad boy....
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It's pretty easy to switch between kernels (just put the zip on your external and flash with CWM). Try em both out and let us know which one you think is better.
I'm using Franco's kernel atm and think it's great (still on 18.4) but haven't used the Glados one.
Alright thanks for the input everyone!
It depends on what you need, battery life or performance. etc ?
I was looking at the CM9 Nightly with Trinity kernel or stock IMM76I with Trinity kernel (if it works together...waiting for a reply).
I literally haven't used the phone yet besides speed test and then rooting/unlocking/custom recovery so....just curious to hear opinions
Aokp rom and James bond 3.1 kernel. They will give you stability, performance and fantastic battery life.
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Aokp rom and James bond 3.1 kernel. They will give you stability, performance and fantastic battery life.
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I had read that AOKP is extremely buggy still....
I know even on the Kindle Fire it is as well.
Imnuts butternutz. Seriously. Lacks customization. But its smoothest I've come across
Not buggy at all
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uoY_redruM said:
I was looking at the CM9 Nightly with Trinity kernel or stock IMM76I with Trinity kernel (if it works together...waiting for a reply).
I literally haven't used the phone yet besides speed test and then rooting/unlocking/custom recovery so....just curious to hear opinions
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BAMF hands down with its stock kernal
We need a rule for 'best rom/kernel' posts. There is no such thing and there never will be.
Literally like asking, "whose the best comedian?" or "What's the best type of fruit?"
Its all subjective. Just read the description of each rom/kernel and determine which one is the best for your personal needs.
It's pretty to switch up rom/kernel combinations, especially when you first get your phone.
Try GummyNex and Franco kernel.
Also, I highly recommend you stay away from AOKP. Alot of the posts about "this phones laggy etc etc" keep coming from people who are running AOKP. Just avoid it, maybe dab in it.
CM9 is pretty good for me too with franco.
I think the best is liquid smooth and franco
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Have you thought about paranoid android? I run it with james bond kernal.. its built upon cm9.. hacked nova/market.. its a tablet hybrid. That means it gives you the function of a tablet while still maintaining the aesthetics of a phone.. its really a great rom. Its in its early stages but is still one of a kind. Check it out in either the cdma or GSM section..
I posted a screen shot of it.
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I use franco kernel with stock rom
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Stock ftw.
teach a man to fish, you feed him for life. teach a man to fastboot, and you create competency. and less threads on xda.
You should try black ice with lean kernel - great battery life, nice theme and smooth. I personally had random reboots with liquidsmooth and aokp but otherwise they were great roms.
I ran stock with Trinity kernel for a few hours then flashed Liquid 1.35 with Trinity and have been using it since. Really smooth and fast. Battery seems good thus far. Really enjoying it.
Coming from N1 as a ROM whore, so to speak, I'm sure I'll end up trying every which one.
Thanks for all the suggestions.
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Hey redrum! Nice seeing you here!
I'm not much for changing ROMs on this phone yet since I don't feel there aren't many worth using. I'd like something more reliable than a nightly. I think you remember I did say many times I am no fan of nightlies when I had the N1
The best combo I've tried so far is either LiquidSmooth plus Leankernel or CM9 + franco (or stock cm) kernel. I don't think AOKP is all that fast.
Right now, though, I run stock everything besides CWM. Still unlocked bootloader and rooted, though. Gosh, I miss 4EXT recovery
Ive had mine for a month now and have been running cm 9 the whole time......mainly used franco....which was great...tried glados which didnt like my phone much.....switched to trinity recently....clear winner is trinity...for me. Easily the best performer.....and battery life has been better so far
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Best ROM/Kernel combos
ROMS: AOKP & GummyNex
Kernels: Lean Kernel & Franco Kernels
Silky smooth Buttery Blazin' Fastness
Tons of customization
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Hey redrum! Nice seeing you here!
I'm not much for changing ROMs on this phone yet since I don't feel there aren't many worth using. I'd like something more reliable than a nightly. I think you remember I did say many times I am no fan of nightlies when I had the N1
The best combo I've tried so far is either LiquidSmooth plus Leankernel or CM9 + franco (or stock cm) kernel. I don't think AOKP is all that fast.
Right now, though, I run stock everything besides CWM. Still unlocked bootloader and rooted, though. Gosh, I miss 4EXT recovery
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Hey, good to see you here as well!
Yeah, so far I'm highly enjoying Liquid with Trinity. I was going to run stock with Trinity but I just couldn't resist lol.
I'm hoping Max brings 4EXT Touch to the GNexus as well. I posted in his thread in the N1 section. Would love that recovery here.
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I use franco kernel with stock rom
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So you can flash kernals to stock on gnex?
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So you can flash kernals to stock on gnex?
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ya you can flash kernels to stock rom as long as its rooted
Hi there, new Nexus user here and have just currently flashed AOKP M5. Just wondering if that comes with its own kernel or do I have to pick my own?
it comes with a stock kernel. You have the option to flash another one if you so please. These other kernels allow for over clock and under volt. And other numerous features. Being a new person I would stick to stock and later on try other kernels.
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it comes with a stock kernel. You have the option to flash another one if you so please. These other kernels allow for over clock and under volt. And other numerous features. Being a new person I would stick to stock and later on try other kernels.
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Every AOKP version (including M5) I have flashed comes with FAUX kernel, at least, that is what franco.kernel Control app tells me before I flash franco.kernel.
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Hi there, new Nexus user here and have just currently flashed AOKP M5. Just wondering if that comes with its own kernel or do I have to pick my own?
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I use Franco and Trinity...Trinity is best for battery life. Both are great and other kernel are good too but for me these have been the best for battery which to me is very important.
Hey all,
Just wanted to see which ROM/Kernel everyone is using. I'm looking to get the best battery life I can. I'm currently using Sammy but I've heard that the stock kernel is good as well? I'd love to hear everyone's recommendations and suggestions.
I'm using the current AOKP (actually i haven't installed the update from today yet) as well as the latest Ktoonez's KT747 kernel and have nothing but great things to say about the battery life. The KT747 also comes with Ktweaker for overclocking and undervolting which when balanced properly can increase performance all the while actually improving battery life.
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I'm using the current AOKP (actually i haven't installed the update from today yet) as well as the latest Ktoonez's KT747 kernel and have nothing but great things to say about the battery life. The KT747 also comes with Ktweaker for overclocking and undervolting which when balanced properly can increase performance all the while actually improving battery life.
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+ 1 billion to this lol. Get the newest ROM and kernel from last night WOW, you'll think you phone is on crack its so fast. Just be sure to follow directions in each respective op.
i really like having TouchWiz. any suggestions?
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i really like having TouchWiz. any suggestions?
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I have tried a few and always end up going back to rooted stock. Samsung did a good job with their stock rom on the s3.
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i really like having TouchWiz. any suggestions?
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Kyan, ariel, team ressurection, miui, try one, make a nandroid, try another, make a nandroid, flash another one....... they all are great ROMs . Nobody can tell which is the best for you. Wipe flash and backups welcome to xda
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First of all.. A very happy New Year to all
Ok.. There are many roms on xda and kernals too
If someone has figured it out.. could anyone tell me which rom-kernel combination is the best for battery (and settings to if needed)
Thanks in advance
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Stock
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First of all.. A very happy New Year to all
Ok.. There are many roms on xda and kernals too
If someone has figured it out.. could anyone tell me which rom-kernel combination is the best for battery (and settings to if needed)
Thanks in advance
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There is no such thing as best. My phone and your phone are not identical, even though they may have very been from the same production lot. Nor are the individual circumstances under which two given people use their phones identical. Something that performs extremely well on one phone may very well boot loop on another.
Do some research by reading the applicable dev forum, and then try some different combinations for yourself to see if they work for you under your unique set of circumstances.
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I am using Cataclysm ROM with the inbuilt kernel that comes with it and I am completely happy with the battery life.
I could get 2 days out of my device on general usage.
You could try that.
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Stock
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I REALLY doubt you will get the BEST battery performance out of stock.
KERNEL.
there is no best combo, there is only the best combo for you and your device. for me its rasbean jelly rom with trinity kernel. but whats best for me and my device might not be right for you and your device.
I've been using cataclysm with Franco kernel for a while and have been very satisfied.
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Agreed, there is no best. I've had good luck with muzzy's aosp room and Trinity kernels. But you might not like that combo. I'm not interested in gaming for instance, so my needs might be different than yours. Try different combos and you'll discover your own best.
Ok.. got it.. thanks everyone
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stock rom is the best in my opinion
I think Xylon (014) with the default lean kernel gives good battery life. Tried the ROM with Franco 358 but i went back to lean.
Also, i make site that my most of my apps aren't running in the background and using up the battery... That's what the FAQs from Franco's OP in his thread mentions.
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I get over 5 hours screen on time and a flawless smooth ROM with heavy usage with both data and WiFi on with xylon stable and ak purity kernel running Wheatley gov. I just addressed this on the xylon thread. Works well for me and some others.. Have a look its worth the flash to see.
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Best I have found is stock.
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Check my sig. I can't use any rom other than paranoid. I've tried many different kernels, but i keep going back to Franco.
Whatever combo I use, no more than 2hrs of screen time and 16hrs of standby.
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I had great luck with Xylon (latest) with Tiny (latest)
Just flashed Evolution 3.0 and Lean Kernel (latest) and after 2 days I am satisfied.
Good Luck.
Xlon + faux123
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For me it's I've been on Muzzy's French Vanilla on stock kernal. However, I've read good things about tiny's kernal too but I haven't tried it myself.
As a noob in the android community, and after trying different roms, i like rasbean the most for different reasons, but on choosing a kernel, for example trinity, there are a lot of options. What's the difference? I really not get it :silly:
for example, TNP1536-512-JB-4.1.2-STABLE67
So this one is max 1536Mhz CPU and max 512 GPU i read on derkernel site
So there's a different setting for graphics (gpu)? I always tought CPU was working between 1536-512 Mhz?
And euh, when i have trinity's app, i can change the settings of this kernel to get this one? (TNP1344-384-JB-4.1.2-STABLE67)
So this is the same kernel but with different settings?
Please make me a little bit smarter