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Got a replacement ATT Tilt2 today

The difference so far has been beyond night and day.
This thing is still very cherry.
I am avoiding adding anything to it right now as I have previously posted that Tilt2 may be a dog.
Kind of thinking I was right.
I will be trying patiently, for a little bit, before I add many programs to it.
The performance within a few minutes of using has been astounding.
Also some interesting, unexpected surprises.
Any and all questions will be accepted.
WOW

nycny said:
The difference so far has been beyond night and day.
This thing is still very cherry.
I am avoiding adding anything to it right now as I have previously posted that Tilt2 may be a dog.
Kind of thinking I was right.
I will be trying patiently, for a little bit, before I add many programs to it.
The performance within a few minutes of using has been astounding.
Also some interesting, unexpected surprises.
Any and all questions will be accepted.
WOW
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I'm curious to hear any specifics on how the behavior of the new one is noticibly different than that of the first one you had...I'm particularly looking for connections/exclusions related to hardware and specific issues.
I'm assuming that your replacement came from the same path/source as the original one? What did you tell them to get them to give you a replacement unit? AT&T branded store, or reseller?
Thanks man, mostly just my hyperactive curiousity asking

sirphunkee said:
I'm curious to hear any specifics on how the behavior of the new one is noticibly different than that of the first one you had...I'm particularly looking for connections/exclusions related to hardware and specific issues.
I'm assuming that your replacement came from the same path/source as the original one? What did you tell them to get them to give you a replacement unit? AT&T branded store, or reseller?
Thanks man, mostly just my hyperactive curiousity asking
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Original purchased through WalMart Lets Talk on Black Friday. (free). hmm..
Equipment failed several times variously along voice audio path.
Replacement from ATT Ft. Worth TX
This thing is still very cherry. Only a couple hours usage.
Have only added MyPhone and contacts from MyPhone Backup.
Opera 9.5 experience has been unusual to me in that it recognized my email profile without any input from me other than inserting sim card and opening Opera 9.5 and selecting mail from ATT Yahoo default web page.
All browsing within Yahoo mail has been very quick.
Not my prior experience, which was very slow to refresh/update.

sirphunkee said:
I'm curious to hear any specifics on how the behavior of the new one is noticibly different than that of the first one you had...I'm particularly looking for connections/exclusions related to hardware and specific issues.
I'm assuming that your replacement came from the same path/source as the original one? What did you tell them to get them to give you a replacement unit? AT&T branded store, or reseller?
Thanks man, mostly just my hyperactive curiousity asking
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Connection/exclusion of what?
What do you mean?
Not getting it.

nycny said:
Connection/exclusion of what?
What do you mean?
Not getting it.
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This thing is still very cherry.
Other than default profile, I will be very reluctant to explore very far from there.

So, is it very cherry?

kimtyson said:
So, is it very cherry?
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lol careful what you ask for
nycny said:
Connection/exclusion of what?
What do you mean?
Not getting it.
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I was just trying to figure out which of the issues you originally had could be attributed to hardware pretty much...but between those, the sound problem you just mentioned, and your considerably improved experience with the new one, it's clear you just had a bum unit all around. Thanks for the feedback though

kimtyson said:
So, is it very cherry?
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Cherry is a fruit, quite delicious to taste, spoils quickly, if not gathered and consumed soon.
Meaning that no software other than default is installed.
Default test module or whatever you want to call it.
Out of the box unmodified other to install MyPhone so I could make some calls.
In the American English idiom, untouched. Virgin.
Working very well.
Windows Mobile ATT most recent stock ROM as far as I can tell.
If you have a question about operation or state of ROM, please ask.
As the cherry my offer won't last long.
Did you read the beginning of the post?
(I can see why some of you older guys get tired with us cherries, we don't last long)

nycny said:
Cherry is a fruit, quite delicious to taste, spoils quickly, if not gathered and consumed soon.
Meaning that no software other than default is installed.
Default test module or whatever you want to call it.
Out of the box unmodified other to install MyPhone so I could make some calls.
In the American English idiom, untouched. Virgin.
Working very well.
Windows Mobile ATT most recent stock ROM as far as I can tell.
If you have a question about operation or state of ROM, please ask.
As the cherry my offer won't last long.
Did you read the beginning of the post?
(I can see why some of you older guys get tired with us cherries, we don't last long)
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Laughing at my self!

Ok a question for those who already own a Desire

Guys
I see there's kind of couple minor/major issues with the phone so my question is very general, are you happy with the phone or you would have rather wait for the official release if you could?

Minor issues:
- Market
Umm that would be it IMO. Doesn't bother me, I can download APK's online and use ADB.

cez10 said:
Guys
I see there's kind of couple minor/major issues with the phone so my question is very general, are you happy with the phone or you would have rather wait for the official release if you could?
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I would be interested in the answers to this too. Stuff like speech-to-text which MAY be included in the unlocked/unbranded version - I would certainly rather have that from the get-go, than have to root my phone to have it.
Having said that, I know I will probably root it anyway when some genius works out how to do it, but it would be nice if I had the CHOICE not to

setspeed said:
I would be interested in the answers to this too. Stuff like speech-to-text which MAY be included in the unlocked/unbranded version - I would certainly rather have that from the get-go, than have to root my phone to have it.
Having said that, I know I will probably root it anyway when some genius works out how to do it, but it would be nice if I had the CHOICE not to
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yeah same here, though i dont really wanna brick a phone worth £300-400
brummiesteven said:
Minor issues:
- Market
Umm that would be it IMO. Doesn't bother me, I can download APK's online and use ADB.
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ok, so apart from that your a 100% satisfied user then?

I read somewhere here (in the forum) that SENSE UI has crashed twice (with that guy since he purchased it)
is the sense UI stable even with lots of widgets running? or there is a little bit of un-stable-ness/lag when alot of widgets are active?

NO problems with this phone at all for me, the text to speech is over rated i have it on the Milestone and it doesn't always get it right and is slow.
I might see if i can put the apk file on this and see if it works will let you know.

Jabbypants said:
NO problems with this phone at all for me, the text to speech is over rated i have it on the Milestone and it doesn't always get it right and is slow.
I might see if i can put the apk file on this and see if it works will let you know.
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I still want it! It's part of Android 2.1 and I'm entitled to it, goddamnit!!!

setspeed said:
I still want it! It's part of Android 2.1 and I'm entitled to it, goddamnit!!!
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haha i want it too
this would be my first android phone and i think it wud be pretty cool to use
DAMN!! i want this phone so badly

After the deceiving ringtone volume of the N1 could you say it's the same issue with Desire?
I mean in an average noisy place like a street can you still hear your phone ringing?

vegetaleb said:
After the deceiving ringtone volume of the N1 could you say it's the same issue with Desire?
I mean in an average noisy place like a street can you still hear your phone ringing?
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Haven't been in a noisy place but the phone is much louder than the G1

T-mobile G2

was offically announces five days ago anybody planing on giving up there T-moble TP2 for the G2 or holding on to it until a window seven phone come out?

ya,uhm i go with no....
but ill hold out for next spring when a
Hardened win7 shows itself with exp

BeEazy10 said:
anybody planing on giving up their T-moble TP2 for the G2
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Seems off topic for this forum...but, yes.
So far I haven't heard anything about WP7 that makes it sound like something I'd want to wait for... And I'm tired of missing the apps/features that have come to Android and other OS, and not WM.

MCbrian said:
Seems off topic for this forum...but, yes.
So far I haven't heard anything about WP7 that makes it sound like something I'd want to wait for... And I'm tired of missing the apps/features that have come to Android and other OS, and not WM.
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Oops sorry about being off topic, but yeah same here i hate missing out on the apps etc, but at the same time i like being able to customize my phone like crazy

I hope to get one this weekend. That's if they are released on Friday as they are said to be.

chevy383surfing said:
I hope to get one this weekend. That's if they are released on Friday as they are said to be.
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G2 this weekend?? I don't think so...pre-order, maybe, but the latest rumors call for an Oct 16 launch.
BeEazy10 said:
but at the same time i like being able to customize my phone like crazy
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Me too...which is one reason I'm not interested in WP7 (based on what I've heard so far, it'll be way-locked-down)

yea i think it might be that way for a while until some chefs get a hold of it
but the specs i dont quite like im holding out for an android with specs like the evo or better

ilikepu said:
yea i think it might be that way for a while until some chefs get a hold of it
but the specs i dont quite like im holding out for an android with specs like the evo or better
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same here im going to wait it out, but rumor is that in europe WM7 phone coming out and about three to two weeks. so we should see some video on youtube soon

MCbrian said:
G2 this weekend?? I don't think so...pre-order, maybe, but the latest rumors call for an Oct 16 launch.
Me too...which is one reason I'm not interested in WP7 (based on what I've heard so far, it'll be way-locked-down)
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Mine was pre-ordered. I got a text from T-Mobile 2 days ago letting me know to expect my G2 to arrive within 7 days.

After actually reading that Oct 16 launch article in the link above, the only thing I can figure is that the G2 will be officially released to all customers. New or existing customers. The T-Mobile guy told me on the phone that it would be arriving at my house around the 6th. So, I dunno.. It would not surprise me any if it didn't come out till November 16th. Nothing about the phone companies ever comes as a surprise. But, I am still having fun customizing my TP2 and messing around with the xandroid on the sd card.

wow so there's people on here making off topic posts about the fisher price lookin OS too.

eric12341 said:
wow so there's people on here making off topic posts about the fisher price lookin OS too.
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well this thread haven't been moved yet... so yeah go somewhere with your lame jokes

chevy383surfing said:
After actually reading that Oct 16 launch article in the link above, the only thing I can figure is that the G2 will be officially released to all customers. New or existing customers. The T-Mobile guy told me on the phone that it would be arriving at my house around the 6th. So, I dunno.. It would not surprise me any if it didn't come out till November 16th. Nothing about the phone companies ever comes as a surprise. But, I am still having fun customizing my TP2 and messing around with the xandroid on the sd card.
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It fun customizing the TP2 but i think it time for somthing solid. to much flashing and re-installing app gets annoying after a while

BeEazy10 said:
well this thread haven't been moved yet... so yeah go somewhere with your lame jokes
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not a lame joke, its the truth

Following articles say G2 may be on sale any day now, or may already be available:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/10/t-mobile-gives-stores-permission-to-sell-the-g2-ahead-of-schedule/
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/09/radio-shack-dropping-the-t-mobile-g2-on-october-3rd/

Not sure about the comment about not wanting to give up the ability to customize (like you can on the TP2). There is lots of customization available on Android, on an OS that is vastly smoother, more stable, and has tons of support from app developers.
One of the few things stopping me from going to Android, is the lack of a ATT-compatible handset with a hardware keyboard. And I might be willing to overlook the keyboard requirement.

redpoint73 said:
Not sure about the comment about not wanting to give up the ability to customize (like you can on the TP2). There is lots of customization available on Android, on an OS that is vastly smoother, more stable, and has tons of support from app developers.
One of the few things stopping me from going to Android, is the lack of a ATT-compatible handset with a hardware keyboard. And I might be willing to overlook the keyboard requirement.
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Typing on a phone with a big screen like the HD2 is not that bad.

I'm thinking of going with the Desire Z (virtually identical to the G2).
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same here im going to wait it out, but rumor is that in europe WM7 phone coming out and about three to two weeks. so we should see some video on youtube soon
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Don't think that's got a hardware keyboard though, more of an HD2 equivalent, perhaps ?

BeEazy10 said:
Typing on a phone with a big screen like the HD2 is not that bad.
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People with iPhones have the same description of the screen keyboard: "not that bad". The screen keyboard is never described as "good". "Not that bad" isn't good enough for me. A hardware keyboard is simply faster, more accurate, and therefore a superior input method. It does result in a slightly thicker form factor, but that's a trade-off that is more than worthwhile, IMO. Especially coming from the best hardware keyboard on a phone (the TP2), its pretty tough for me to make a switch to a screen keyboard.

redpoint73 said:
Following articles say G2 may be on sale any day now, or may already be available:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/10/t-mobile-gives-stores-permission-to-sell-the-g2-ahead-of-schedule/
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/09/radio-shack-dropping-the-t-mobile-g2-on-october-3rd/
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People who pre-ordered started receiving the G2 late last week. And the G2 board at T-Mobile Forums has been going nuts for several days...crises rising and falling -- lots of drama.

Potential convert with some questions...

Sup 'droids...
It's time for a new phone and I'm on the hunt doing research. Such a hard choice! I've had a Galaxy S1, S3 and S5 and loved them all so I went and got the S6 the other day without ever reading about it. When I went to install my ROM of choice I found out that Samsung is now officially releasing only the douche ROM...so I returned it 3 days later.
I read that the 5X was going to be released soon and also read some stuff on the Moto X Play (which is what it's called here in Canada, available at Telus). The 5X seems ok...I could potentially wait a month for that delivery (if Telus even carries it), or I could go get the Play or the G4 today--which seems to be the forerunner at this point due to it having slightly better specs than the Play.
My questions relate to custom ROM experiences. I like to have AOSP support with all the fancy settings available to me! I especially like hardware keys. My S3 was able to turn the flashlight on by holding the home key. I know the G4 doesn't have hardware buttons anymore so I'm not even sure if that's a thing. Maybe volume keys instead? That might create problems with track seeking though. Whatever...as long as there are options lol.
So...what kind of experiences--good and bad--have you guys had with this phone? Is there good ROM support? It seems like M will be out soon...does that mean the code will also be available for developers? I see a few ROM's available but unfortunately I can't test them out because I don't actually have the phone.
I'm sure I'll have more questions but thought I'd get a discussion going for those interested in sharing their experiences.
Thanks.

i'm somehow convinced that when the official android M update from LG finally released, the developer scene would start to bud here and there.
but for now, i think the developers are gathering only in some unlocked bootloader variants...

AZDJedi said:
I read that the 5X was going to be released soon and also read some stuff on the Moto X Play (which is what it's called here in Canada, available at Telus). The 5X seems ok...I could potentially wait a month for that delivery (if Telus even carries it), or I could go get the Play or the G4 today--which seems to be the forerunner at this point due to it having slightly better specs than the Play.
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The play is a midranger with a good battery not comparable with a flagship like the G4. Maybe you were thinking of the Style or Pure as its known in the US.
My questions relate to custom ROM experiences. I like to have AOSP support with all the fancy settings available to me! I especially like hardware keys. My S3 was able to turn the flashlight on by holding the home key. I know the G4 doesn't have hardware buttons anymore so I'm not even sure if that's a thing. Maybe volume keys instead? That might create problems with track seeking though. Whatever...as long as there are options lol.
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Not too much at the moment. Just root. To use xposed entails risk as there is no recovery. Unless you can source a H815 euro variant of the G4.
I'm sure I'll have more questions but thought I'd get a discussion going for those interested in sharing their experiences.
Thanks.
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What you need from roms ? that stock with root can't give you.

One Twelve said:
What you need from roms ? that stock with root can't give you.
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I'll be honest, I was about to use my middlefinger to write an aggressive post for you but the intelligent part of my brain said "STOP! THINK!". So I thought...and thought again. Coming from Nexus devices running CM only, on the G4 I have yet to find a reason to even consider a custom ROM. I sometimes miss the pure Android but that's all about it. It's the first time since my Nokia E72 in 2007 I did not switched a ROM for more than a month. Let's see where this goes. Good point mate!

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Coming from Nexus devices running CM only, on the G4 I have yet to find a reason to even consider a custom ROM. I sometimes miss the pure Android but that's all about it. It's the first time since my Nokia E72 in 2007 I did not switched a ROM for more than a month. Let's see where this goes. Good point mate!
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Will you be able to convince the OP of that ?
Otherwise he needs to look elsewhere.

AZDJedi said:
Sup 'droids...
It's time for a new phone and I'm on the hunt doing research. Such a hard choice! I've had a Galaxy S1, S3 and S5 and loved them all so I went and got the S6 the other day without ever reading about it. When I went to install my ROM of choice I found out that Samsung is now officially releasing only the douche ROM...so I returned it 3 days later.
I read that the 5X was going to be released soon and also read some stuff on the Moto X Play (which is what it's called here in Canada, available at Telus). The 5X seems ok...I could potentially wait a month for that delivery (if Telus even carries it), or I could go get the Play or the G4 today--which seems to be the forerunner at this point due to it having slightly better specs than the Play.
My questions relate to custom ROM experiences. I like to have AOSP support with all the fancy settings available to me! I especially like hardware keys. My S3 was able to turn the flashlight on by holding the home key. I know the G4 doesn't have hardware buttons anymore so I'm not even sure if that's a thing. Maybe volume keys instead? That might create problems with track seeking though. Whatever...as long as there are options lol.
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It's too early for the G4 now. Currently only the EU H815 model has an unlockable bootloader. LG's official page says more devices will be added to the list soon, but I wouldn't count on that. Since you're from Canada and propably won't get the H815 on contract, it'd be risky. If I had your patience, I'd wait for the 5X. You seem to be an Android purist. I wouldn't want to deal with a device running a custom version of Android. Also, even if CM or any other AOSP ROM would make its way to the various variants of the G4, they're going to have these little issues here and there because of bad or missing documentation from the manufacturer. It'll be a buggy experience overall. For example, I'm sure the camera will be a mess on CM/AOSP/A
AZDJedi said:
So...what kind of experiences--good and bad--have you guys had with this phone? Is there good ROM support? It seems like M will be out soon...does that mean the code will also be available for developers? I see a few ROM's available but unfortunately I can't test them out because I don't actually have the phone.
I'm sure I'll have more questions but thought I'd get a discussion going for those interested in sharing their experiences.
Thanks.
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It's great so far. Running vanilla Android was a nice experience but I got bored. Having a custom UI with the option to use a custom vanilla Android is the perfect place for me. But as I said, right now I have no reason to go vanilla.

5X = 32gig no sd
G4 = sd
I can't live with 32gig so G4 fills all my needs. Stock too.
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Thanks for the input guy! I'm glad to hear that the G4 won't have much ROM support for some time--not that I'm glad for the *lack* of support, I'm just happy that I was informed of this *before* I made my purchase lol. There are some things that vanilla doesn't seem to offer me. Some features are not needed (pie and other recent/quick access features, and others I can't even think of cos I never turn them on in my current ROM lol); however, the ability to alter the power menu, the ability to add custom hardware keys (mainly for flashlight; if not a hardware key, then at least a toggle in the tray, or in the power menu), status bar changes (clock, color, battery % in numbers, double-tap for screen off), led control, etc (perhaps all these can be altered with apps or via Xposed. @onetwelve You said above there could be problems with Xposed because there's no recovery. You mean TWRP recovery? You can't mean that, so I'm confused :s).
The lack of camera support would suck. I am by no means a photographer; the main thing I use my camera for are taking random photos and also taking quick snapshots that require a fast-focus to be achieved. It's frustrating when camera apps don't work properly. I think pretty much every camera is going to be good enough for my purposes. 21MP vs 16MP = whoopdeedoo.
SD card support is not a concern for me. I've lived with 16GB for years and it's almost never been a problem unless I record a bunch of videos before I get home. I don't put music on my device (only audiobooks). Getting a 32GB internal memory phone would be like landing in a pot of gold haha!
My buddy has been nagging me to get an iPhone 6 and jailbreak it--he says I'll never turn back...but I'm not sure, I love Android and don't really wanna learn a whole new interface.

AZDJedi said:
Thanks for the input guy! I'm glad to hear that the G4 won't have much ROM support for some time--not that I'm glad for the *lack* of support, I'm just happy that I was informed of this *before* I made my purchase lol. There are some things that vanilla doesn't seem to offer me. Some features are not needed (pie and other recent/quick access features, and others I can't even think of cos I never turn them on in my current ROM lol); however, the ability to alter the power menu, the ability to add custom hardware keys (mainly for flashlight; if not a hardware key, then at least a toggle in the tray, or in the power menu), status bar changes (clock, color, battery % in numbers, double-tap for screen off), led control, etc (perhaps all these can be altered with apps or via Xposed. @onetwelve You said above there could be problems with Xposed because there's no recovery. You mean TWRP recovery? You can't mean that, so I'm confused :s).
The lack of camera support would suck. I am by no means a photographer; the main thing I use my camera for are taking random photos and also taking quick snapshots that require a fast-focus to be achieved. It's frustrating when camera apps don't work properly. I think pretty much every camera is going to be good enough for my purposes. 21MP vs 16MP = whoopdeedoo.
SD card support is not a concern for me. I've lived with 16GB for years and it's almost never been a problem unless I record a bunch of videos before I get home. I don't put music on my device (only audiobooks). Getting a 32GB internal memory phone would be like landing in a pot of gold haha!
My buddy has been nagging me to get an iPhone 6 and jailbreak it--he says I'll never turn back...but I'm not sure, I love Android and don't really wanna learn a whole new interface.
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There is no custom recovery as in there is none for the G4 variant you most likely will be getting in Canada, as of now. However, there are reports of an unofficial Bootloader unlock method coming for many variants of the G4. It's important to note that in this case you must not take OTA updates or the unofficial unlock method won't work. Anyway, no need to get into detail much.
There's no need for a custom recovery since flash fire is enough to get xposed working.
Btw. Is that a Rick & Morty reference?

Cool, thanks for the info. So it seems even the G4 won't suffice for me ...guess I'll wait for the X5 and see what happens there. I doubt Telus will carry it so I'll have to buy it outright. Support for that is going to be active and functional?
Never watched Rick & Morty...which did you think I was referencing?

AZDJedi said:
Cool, thanks for the info. So it seems even the G4 won't suffice for me ...guess I'll wait for the X5 and see what happens there. I doubt Telus will carry it so I'll have to buy it outright. Support for that is going to be active and functional?
Never watched Rick & Morty...which did you think I was referencing?
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I guess you mean the 5X? In this case, yes, you can expect the great minds of XDA to develop for this device and since the 5X is relatively cheap and people tending towards mid-high-range devices, you can expect a big fellowship in the 5X development section and forum in general.
Nvm, I was referring to the "whoopdeedoo". Realized that "whoopdeedoo" is a very common saying. Just binge-finished Rick & Morty but somehow my brain is still processing the information.
EDIT: A Rick & Morty reference would be like, uh, like "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub", or "Get shwifty" or how much "Schmeckles" does the Moto X cost and so forth. Wait, what?

AZDJedi said:
Thanks for the input guy! I'm glad to hear that the G4 won't have much ROM support for some time--not that I'm glad for the *lack* of support, I'm just happy that I was informed of this *before* I made my purchase lol.
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Yes, it certainly pays to do your research before you dive in.
There are some things that vanilla doesn't seem to offer me. Some features are not needed (pie and other recent/quick access features, and others I can't even think of cos I never turn them on in my current ROM lol); however, the ability to alter the power menu, the ability to add custom hardware keys (mainly for flashlight; if not a hardware key, then at least a toggle in the tray, or in the power menu), status bar changes (clock, color, battery % in numbers, double-tap for screen off), led control, etc (perhaps all these can be altered with apps or via Xposed. @onetwelve You said above there could be problems with Xposed because there's no recovery. You mean TWRP recovery? You can't mean that, so I'm confused :s).
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am not too knowledgable on the xposed side of things. it was an interaction i had with someone on youtube and they said if you do not have access to kdz, then in case of a boot loop you would not be able to recover. since you're in canada and the carriers there are no better than us carriers, xposed might not be an option unless you REALLY know what you're doing. There's these TOT's instead so somebody more knowledgeable can answer.
The lack of camera support would suck. I am by no means a photographer; the main thing I use my camera for are taking random photos and also taking quick snapshots that require a fast-focus to be achieved. It's frustrating when camera apps don't work properly. I think pretty much every camera is going to be good enough for my purposes. 21MP vs 16MP = whoopdeedoo.
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yeah, vendors keep cameras very close to their chest. Only stock based roms will preserve camera or lets say are more certain to preserve it.
other stuff is going to be buggy or not work too well. this is down to developers so you end up using 3rd party cameras but its not the same as stock when it comes to cameras.
The cameras on the nexii are pretty good from what i've heard. But I would contend that the lack of OIS is an egregious omission when the last two nexii had it. Maddening! why go to the trouble to develop such a good camera and leave it out (!!!)
This means you will have to have a good handhold to avoid blur or camera shake indoors or in low light. But if the light is enough i think you will be happy with the nexus cameras. They really have come a long way since the Nexus 4. In good light i would not be surprised to see them rivaling the S6/G4 in terms of preservation of details. They are that good. But unfortunately thats it.
Btw the nexii are 12MP shooters. Don't let the mega pickles bother you just check out the photos at the pixel level and see for yourself.
SD card support is not a concern for me. I've lived with 16GB for years and it's almost never been a problem unless I record a bunch of videos before I get home. I don't put music on my device (only audiobooks). Getting a 32GB internal memory phone would be like landing in a pot of gold haha!
My buddy has been nagging me to get an iPhone 6 and jailbreak it--he says I'll never turn back...but I'm not sure, I love Android and don't really wanna learn a whole new interface.
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thought the whole point of getting an iphone is that there is no need to do jailbreaking. not nowadays anyway. why would you want to jailbreak ios9 ?

New update for A51 & A71

Samsung has released a new software update bringing a range of leading Galaxy S20 features to the Galaxy A series. Galaxy A51 and A71 device users will now be able to harness some of the Galaxy S20 series’ powerful innovations, designed to make the way we capture, connect and share more dynamic than ever before.
https://news.samsung.com/global/gal...features-thanks-to-the-latest-software-update
Update 14-07-2020: Updated received on my unlocked A71.
It's 1842,98MB

It's brilliant that Samsung keeps updating the A series but honestly (probably besides some security patches) there is nothing interesting in this update
I guess that for pictures and videos pro users already use filmic Pro, open camera or port of Google camera
The rest is just gimmick.

DonAndress said:
It's brilliant that Samsung keeps updating the A series but honestly (probably besides some security patches) there is nothing interesting in this update
I guess that for pictures and videos pro users already use filmic Pro, open camera or port of Google camera
The rest is just gimmick.
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Yeah, I'm waiting for the OneUI 2.1 update

JordyEGNL said:
Yeah, I'm waiting for the OneUI 2.1 update
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What does it do?
I replace all stock Launchers with Nova. Will OneUI 2.1 make sense for me?

DonAndress said:
What does it do?
I replace all stock Launchers with Nova. Will OneUI 2.1 make sense for me?
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You can search online for the difference between the two. I really want Audio Share so I can share audio with friends

DonAndress said:
It's brilliant that Samsung keeps updating the A series but honestly (probably besides some security patches) there is nothing interesting in this update
I guess that for pictures and videos pro users already use filmic Pro, open camera or port of Google camera
The rest is just gimmick.
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Everytime I'm here I always see a distasteful post from you. If you're not happy with your device and support it comes with it then do yourself a favor, sell it and buy something else.
Thanks.

Yepi69 said:
Everytime I'm here I always see a distasteful post from you. If you're not happy with your device and support it comes with it then do yourself a favor, sell it and buy something else.
Thanks.
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ROTFL [emoji28]
Where did you see me saying that I'm not happy with my phone? I actually think it's brilliant (especially the battery) while costs a fraction of S20 [emoji3]
But at the same time I'm not gonna praise all software changes it gets if I don't like it. That's called being a fanboy, buddy.
You seem not to understand what I say. But you can always ask [emoji6]

Yepi69 said:
Everytime I'm here I always see a distasteful post from you. If you're not happy with your device and support it comes with it then do yourself a favor, sell it and buy something else.
Thanks.
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Same goes for you towards any forum. He never said he don't like the phone, only commenting the update, wich is helpful in general or specific.

andreoide said:
Same goes for you towards any forum. He never said he don't like the phone, only commenting the update, wich is helpful in general or specific.
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No it doesn't, more than once I've seen this user say this or that about the phone or the apps in it. Not talking about this thread either.

Yepi69 said:
No it doesn't, more than once I've seen this user say this or that about the phone or the apps in it. Not talking about this thread either.
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What? Prove it then. With links to my posts. I honestly can't recall complaining about this phone. No prove means you're just talking rubbish.
I did not complain about the apps, but I admit I complained about system apps not allowed to be removed (those additional from Samsung). But dude this is always the case with all phones besides android one
I will also complain about Samsung not letting the camera to be fully used by 3rd party apps (I can't get 60 fps videos, and when I set 120 fps, the phone records in 3 fps). Do you buddy think it's fair to purchase any thing and not be able to use it however the hell you want? Jeese... But again, very popular practice.
And now - hang on and sit down - other people complain about the latest system update not me - them. I've put on hold the update as I generally don't update anything.

DonAndress said:
What? Prove it then. With links to my posts. I honestly can't recall complaining about this phone. No prove means you're just talking rubbish.
I did not complain about the apps, but I admit I complained about system apps not allowed to be removed (those additional from Samsung). But dude this is always the case with all phones besides android one
I will also complain about Samsung not letting the camera to be fully used by 3rd party apps (I can't get 60 fps videos, and when I set 120 fps, the phone records in 3 fps). Do you buddy think it's fair to purchase any thing and not be able to use it however the hell you want? Jeese... But again, very popular practice.
And now - hang on and sit down - other people complain about the latest system update not me - them. I've put on hold the update as I generally don't update anything.
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Can you guys please discuss this somewhere else? Thank you

DonAndress said:
What? Prove it then. With links to my posts. I honestly can't recall complaining about this phone. No prove means you're just talking rubbish.
I did not complain about the apps, but I admit I complained about system apps not allowed to be removed (those additional from Samsung). But dude this is always the case with all phones besides android one
I will also complain about Samsung not letting the camera to be fully used by 3rd party apps (I can't get 60 fps videos, and when I set 120 fps, the phone records in 3 fps). Do you buddy think it's fair to purchase any thing and not be able to use it however the hell you want? Jeese... But again, very popular practice.
And now - hang on and sit down - other people complain about the latest system update not me - them. I've put on hold the update as I generally don't update anything.
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If you put updates don't hold, don't complain when something else doesn't work as intended.

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If you put updates don't hold, don't complain when something else doesn't work as intended.
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Dude, you don't even ready what I write or you constantly have problems understanding
What I point out is not due to software issues. It is all intended and common amongst manufacturers. Most can be fixed by AOSP (which we don't have) except the camera limitations. That's entirely Samsung.
Anyway, stop talking to me. Seems like you have no clue...

DonAndress said:
Dude, you don't even ready what I write or you constantly have problems understanding
What I point out is not due to software issues. It is all intended and common amongst manufacturers. Most can be fixed by AOSP (which we don't have) except the camera limitations. That's entirely Samsung.
Anyway, stop talking to me. Seems like you have no clue...
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Well you are right in one way ?
I've seen you complain about system apps and the Google framework in it's entirety, but yeah. Obviously I don't have a clue right? ?
You want an Android One device, buy one. Simple as that.

DonAndress said:
Dude, you don't even ready what I write or you constantly have problems understanding
What I point out is not due to software issues. It is all intended and common amongst manufacturers. Most can be fixed by AOSP (which we don't have) except the camera limitations. That's entirely Samsung.
Anyway, stop talking to me. Seems like you have no clue...
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Yepi69 said:
Well you are right in one way ?
I've seen you complain about system apps and the Google framework in it's entirety, but yeah. Obviously I don't have a clue right? ?
You want an Android One device, buy one. Simple as that.
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Can you guys please make a new thread and don't spam this one with your discussion? Thank you

As for updates , my UK unlocked A71 is still on April 1 update , I know the A 71 will get updates in a " big " lump.. every quarter, but I would prefer incremental updates, rather than a huge update .. if it ever gets here .. i want to to keep stock , romed before ... done it .. hence keep stock

drchip42 said:
i want to to keep stock , romed before ... done it .. hence keep stock
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Hmm you didn't have good experience with different roms?

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Hmm you didn't have good experience with different roms?
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No it was fab , got want I wanted etc.. but I've been there done that, it was good, but took time. hence now just want " out of the box" with nova launcher. It's even helped me get full java games, apps, etc on my Chromebook .
That's why I'm still here, as they say " once you tweak you can never turn back!!"

Being new to Samsung and how they update their devices, how long does it usually take for the update to hit all channels/versions of the phone? I have the Panama version of the A71 and have not yet received the update. Just curious as to what to expect so I don't have to spam the update button throughout the day.

arecad said:
Being new to Samsung and how they update their devices, how long does it usually take for the update to hit all channels/versions of the phone? I have the Panama version of the A71 and have not yet received the update. Just curious as to what to expect so I don't have to spam the update button throughout the day.
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I'm in the same place. I have the a71 but am new to Samsung and how they update.