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[Q's]Looking at getting one of these

Hey all, I've been informed by my carrier (Rogers Canada) that I'm eligible for a phone upgrade- and the Optimus G is one of the cheap options!! I have a few questions for the community before I'm totally sold...
1) How big are the /system and /data partitions? I'm on an old Optimus One and it's PAINFULLY low on storage.
2) Any word on NFC working in CM 10.1? I've done searches and whatnot but it seems to be quite the quandary right now. NFC is a pretty big draw for me and unfortunately I read that the hardware chip is different from the Nexus 4.
3) What is the latest root-able stock ROM? A lot of guides I see advise against going past 4.0.3, but I would like to run 4.1 (Google tells me an update was released in December) .
4) What are the odds of custom kernel/ROM support going forward? I have no idea what the community is like for this phone, and these boards look rather sparse. Hack-ability is a big (perhaps the biggest) feature for me too.
I really am leaning towards this phone- it's either the G or a Note 1, and it's a tad behind the times (dual core, 1 gig/ram). Though the Note 1 does have a really active hacking community.
Thanks to anyone who takes the time to reply. Cheers!

Keep everything stock, just root it and delete all the bloat ware.. works great.

1)On korean version sysyem is 2gb and data 25gb

sunami88 said:
Hey all, I've been informed by my carrier (Rogers Canada) that I'm eligible for a phone upgrade- and the Optimus G is one of the cheap options!! I have a few questions for the community before I'm totally sold...
1) How big are the /system and /data partitions? I'm on an old Optimus One and it's PAINFULLY low on storage.
no idea but it's a 32gb phone, there is probably no problem with it.
2) Any word on NFC working in CM 10.1? I've done searches and whatnot but it seems to be quite the quandary right now. NFC is a pretty big draw for me and unfortunately I read that the hardware chip is different from the Nexus 4.
no rom support NFC or hardware cap keys as of now
3) What is the latest root-able stock ROM? A lot of guides I see advise against going past 4.0.3, but I would like to run 4.1 (Google tells me an update was released in December) .
The latest Rogers is rootable (it's easier to root first and update later, keep root). Korean 4.1 update is rootable so I would guess Rogers 4.1 will also be rootable. We actually have a pretty good Can Dev community.
4) What are the odds of custom kernel/ROM support going forward? I have no idea what the community is like for this phone, and these boards look rather sparse. Hack-ability is a big (perhaps the biggest) feature for me too.
As of now there isn't much custom roms (you can see that yourself) But there is lots of potential.
I really am leaning towards this phone- it's either the G or a Note 1, and it's a tad behind the times (dual core, 1 gig/ram). Though the Note 1 does have a really active hacking community.
Thanks to anyone who takes the time to reply. Cheers!
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I also got a OG from Rogers and I might sell it and just use my N4. Storage is not an issue for me. More money in my pochet in the end and endless community support.

I would get a LGOG. The Note is really old and it's going to be two generations behind once new phones are launched in Q1 2013.

Wow, thanks for the replies! All that's left now is hope Rogers doesn't try and pull a fast one on me.
Update: The phone's on order! Can't wait to play around with my new device.

Densitymax said:
Keep everything stock, just root it and delete all the bloat ware.. works great.
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I tend to agree. I was planning on flashing some ROMs, but after playing around with the phone for a few days, I must say I actually like LG 's Android skin. Not as heavily skinned/modded as Sense, but enough tweaks to add to the stock experience rather than detract from it.
In my opinion anyway.
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sunami88 said:
Update: The phone's on order! Can't wait to play around with my new device.
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Once you get it, root it, unlock it and throw the jelly bean Rom on it.. I loved my phone before but I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is better now.. more responsive, some nice built in features and better battery life..
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I'll probably stick with the stock ROM for a while. It'll be nice when some replacement kernel's start turning up. I use CIFS a lot on my current phone, and I would like to have OTG. Hmm, I might be able to insert the relevant modules once I have root...
Hell, if it ever gets Android 5 officially I might not have to flash a third party ROM at all .

Hey LG, waiting for update

when is it estimated that the update will come?

If they are like other venders maybe
never.
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dginsd said:
If they are like other venders maybe
never.
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I am also voting towards "Never" theory.
Also the same fate will be for G2 as G Pro.

dginsd said:
If they are like other venders maybe
never.
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I am also voting towards "Never" theory.
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wowwww! looks like i'll be buying the note 3 instead of this piece of old trash.

Yes you will get timely updates on Samsung.
But if compare ogp phone itself than it is great piece of hardware inside.
Have a great time with note.

polx said:
wowwww! looks like i'll be buying the note 3 instead of this piece of old trash.
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Just an "old piece" but not "trash". Cause I can honestly say it is better then S4, which I previously used.

Update together w GN2 to 4.3

Guys, grow up please... I've had 2 updates within 1 months... Please be patient... I wouldn't say that LG has no timely updates.... If there are fixes to be done then they will issue them. If it ain't broken why fix it?
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Everything new is not always better. I had a Galaxy nexus before GPRO and with each update the phone received after the SOLID 4.1.2, problems started mounting. These were not just performance issues and this was on a supposed pure Google device. Go visit the Galaxy Nexus forums and see how much folks are downgrading back to 4.1.2 from 4.2.x and 4.3. Case in point, 4.2.1 introduced issues with Bluetooth audio streaming which Google later fixed in 4.2.2. If a phone manufacturer decides to jump to a new release right away, unless they are will to deal with the churn and cost associated with putting out a new release every few months or so to correct problems, they risk taking untested functionality and upsetting their user base when stuff don't work.
I am not sure what the fascination is with 4.3 especially when 4.4 is around the corner. The biggest advantage in 4.3 in my opinion is the addition of Bluetooth LE (which GPRO already has), OpenGL ES for games and TRIM (flash filesystem garbage collection to prevent slow down). The last two would be nice to have but I am willing to wait for 4.3 to fully bake before jumping in. The GPRO is a solid device with ONE big advantage over the Note 3 at the moment. Unlike the Note 3, the GPRO does not have KNOX.

:sly: ^^^^^^^ no offence but how funny you are. Updates are bad, yaaa grapes are sour.

I am not saying updates are bad. I am asking you to use logic. LG does not update the software on their phones often. I knew this well before getting the GPRO. When/if they do provide an update, would you rather them provide one based on the current 4.3 (with all its current issues) knowing that once LG does you are probably stuck with it (good or bad) for a while or would you rather them wait for 4.3.x. I would much prefer they wait (which unfortunately means longer update cycles). Even the Nexus 4 has issues with 4.3 at the moment. 4.3 seems rushed and needs more time to fully bake. The developer community is doing their best to fix some the problems but that means using cooked ROMs which requires an open bootloader. Something I cant see (open bootloader) on the Note3 just yet due to KNOX.
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:sly: ^^^^^^^ no offence but how funny you are. Updates are bad, yaaa grapes are sour.
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lantoine said:
I am not saying updates are bad. I am asking you to use logic. LG does not update the software on their phones often. I knew this well before getting the GPRO. When/if they do provide an update, would you rather them provide one based on the current 4.3 (with all its current issues) knowing that once LG does you are probably stuck with it (good or bad) for a while or would you rather them wait for 4.3.x. I would much prefer they wait (which unfortunately means longer update cycles). Even the Nexus 4 has issues with 4.3 at the moment. 4.3 seems rushed and needs more time to fully bake. The developer community is doing their best to fix some the problems but that means using cooked ROMs which requires an open bootloader. Something I cant see (open bootloader) on the Note3 just yet due to KNOX.
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:sly: lol. Sorry no offense, You really are :sly: So 4.2.2 in g2 is rushed. 1 year is not enough to update to 4.2 leave 4.3. Close the company for selling phones. and leave everything on Google edition.

Personally 4.2 did not bring much to the table compared to 4.1 (again this is my opinion). Name an APP that works on 4.2 and not on 4.1. In many ways 4.2 on phones was a step back in performance compared to 4.1 since 4.2 was really optimized for tablets (large heap sizes, multi-user support, etc.) with some inkling of benefit for phone users. Some of the changes in 4.2 cause massive performance issues (i.e. heap size changes) in phones which after a few iteration (4.2.1, 4.2.2) got ironed out. This only illustrate my point about why it may not be so great to always jumping to the new first. If you want consistent OS updates from a manufacturer then you need to get a Nexus device. If you bought an LG hoping to periodic updates then you made a big mistake.
Prior to getting the GPRO, I had the G2 for 3 days. Do I miss it? Heck no. Why? Because the GPRO is an all around better phone and from the surface you would not be able to tell the G2 is using 4.2.2 and the GPRO 4.1.2. If the GPRO gets 4.2.2 that would be nice but I'm not dying for it. Sure I would like the phone to be updated but I am not going to rely on LG for that and when I am ready to update, I'll find the most stable ROM possible and use that. I've been on the bleeding edge with Google for the pass two years with my Galaxy Nexus. I'm not interested in being a beta tester anymore.
NaveenKumarXDA said:
:sly: lol. Sorry no offense, You really are :sly: So 4.2.2 in g2 is rushed. 1 year is not enough to update to 4.2 leave 4.3. Close the company for selling phones. and leave everything on Google edition.
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^^^^ what do you think? Any possibilities of g2 features coming in next update.

Aside from "Knock Knock" and a few camera tricks, there was really not that much brought to the table by the G2 when compared to the GPRO in terms of features. In fact the GPRO has some features you wont find on some G2s (Wireless charging, true 5.5" screen real estate - G2 claims 5.2" screen but in reality it is more like 5" since the software buttons take up the bottom portion of the screen). The G2 was more about LG participating in the HW spec war presently going on between phone vendors. Most of the minor tweaks I saw on the G2 were with respect LG's Quick APPS which can be easily ported to the GPRO. In fact I think there is already a GPRO ROM that does this. The UI on the phones are so similar that you would have to go to the "About Phone" section to tell that you were on 4.1.2 rather than 4.2.2 on the GPRO.
"Knock Knock" is a nice feature but its only important to have on the G2 since LG placed the darn buttons on the back of the phone. Buttons on the back sounds like a great concept but in actual use the buttons being on the back just felt unnatural. At times I would have to knock the screen more than twice for it to turn on/off. Sometimes I would have to knock harder than I would like as well. Playing with that gimmick was nice for the first few day but when you get over it and start to really use the phone, you start to realize all the moments where having the button on the back is a pain in the behind.
So with that said, I think most of the minor software tweaks I saw on the G2 will make it into the GPRO if it is updated.
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^^^^ what do you think? Any possibilities of g2 features coming in next update.
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^^^ remote learning & hidden guest mode also good daily usability functions. On cm others can see what user account I logged in.
Lg this time nailed with new remote & guest mode. Also knock knock is good for me.

Guest mode most likely relies on the multi-user capability introduced in 4.2 so if that is something you are specifically looking for then you are unfortunately at the mercy of LG. All of the other G2 features you mentioned below MAY (no certain) be hardware specific to the G2. We know the GPRO has the hardware to transmit IR but what we don't know is if it has the circuitry to receive IR for learning. Same goes for "knock knock" in that we don't know if there is any hardware required to make it work.
If LG updates the GPRO to 4.2 or above, I can easily see them bring guest mode to the GPRO. If hardware is not the limiting factor for IR learning I think we will see that one too. Knock Knock on the other hand may remain a G2/"future LG phone" feature even if it is purely a software implementation. LG is in the phone business to make money and right now the "knock knock" feature is one of their prime differentiator. This unfortunately means that if you want it you will have to buy the latest and greatest hardware from them. They are not going to bring it back to older platforms because they want you to upgrade. Again this is just my opinion. Hopefully LG proves me wrong.
NaveenKumarXDA said:
^^^ remote learning & hidden guest mode also good daily usability functions. On cm others can see what user account I logged in.
Lg this time nailed with new remote & guest mode. Also knock knock is good for me.
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lantoine said:
Personally 4.2 did not bring much to the table compared to 4.1 (again this is my opinion). Name an APP that works on 4.2 and not on 4.1.
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Granted it's not that it's not totally working, but Android 4.2 correctly supports group sms messaging.
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And be able to move apps from internal to sd card natively.

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Granted it's not that it's not totally working, but Android 4.2 correctly supports group sms messaging.
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New VZW G4 Thread

I see that there are new carrier-specific groups. Pretty sweet! Root and bootloader unlocks are just around the corner.
How is everyone liking their VZW G4? Which device did you come from?
My previous device was the G2 and i loved it! The G4 is a great upgrade.
Don't forget to go put your name down to donate to the root and bootloader bounty! We owe a lot to these devs! :highfive:
*EDIT* - People keep asking about root and bootloader - The devs have found multiple ways to root and plan on releasing the first root method soon. They also say they are on track for a global bootloader unlock method. Stay patient and you'll have your root! Enjoy!

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I see that there are new carrier-specific groups. Pretty sweet! Root and bootloader unlocks are just around the corner.
How is everyone liking their VZW G4? Which device did you come from?
My previous device was the G2 and i loved it! The G4 is a great upgrade.
Don't forget to go put your name down to donate to the root and bootloader bounty! We owe a lot to these devs! :highfive:
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I came from the S6 and am liking the G4 very much. It wasn't much of a upgrade but the camera and manual mode really drew me to the G4 along with the removable battery and extSD. They are both great devices but in the end for something different I went with the G4.
EDIT: Great idea on the new thread structure, I was just thinking if they were going to do this.
EDIT 2: Back to the S6 for me... the G4 is too buggy for me. The one i just had had to be returned because of camera problems. It's a shame because I was really liking it until I took some outdoor photos.

Do you guys know how to take pictures in manual mode with raw format? How many other features are missing from our phones that the other carriers left alone?

Came from the G3, which I passed along to my father. I've been flashing it for him to feed my habit, but things are starting to look up for the G4 now.

Came from the S5 which I came from the S4..glad to be done with Sammy
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Give me root or give me death! Coming from an HTC m8, Galaxy Nexus, Droid X.

I came from the S4 was pretty happy with that phone (actually I'm still happy with that phone) but the G4 just looked like a great upgrade. Can't beat the SD card slot and removable battery.

I had the GS4 before this, and Sam lost me with what they ditched in the GS6 design. The LG G4 has made me a very happy customer, and I marvel at its performance. Even better, I get an extra sd card and battery through that promotion!

I'm still rocking a G3 until the G4 gains root access.
The G3 has been the most boring phone I've had. I really enjoy flashing roms, but life is just too busy now. Which is why the G3 (and I assume the G4 will be as well) is so great. This phone with root and TweaksBox is perfect. I just froze a few things, added a few features and changed the colors and I have a stable device that has everything I want and need.

Came from G2. Missed having a removable battery and SD card. Love the camera, wish there was an option to change the resolution though. I didn't think I would like the curve as much as I do. A little put off by how much Verizon stripped the LG features too. All in all I'm just as happy as the day I got my G2. I was actually sold on the nexus 6, but I couldn't get over my love of the back buttons.
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I had a G2, then a G3, and now a G4. In between these I had bought and returned a Droid Turbo, S6, One M8, and likely 1-2 more, but I always found myself coming back to LG.
I prefer the looks and ergonomics of the G3 the best out of all of them, it looked and felt much smaller than the G4, and looks more premium. The G4 has excellent performance and the best camera out of all of them though, so it makes up for it.

Umm hey guys, I have been trying my best to keep up with the root info on vzw g4, and last I heard, no luck and no bootloader unlock... Now, i dont want to jump the gun, BUT i have found a way to enable oem unlock. Is this something that has been accomplished yet? Or am I just all happy for nothing?

Everyone coming from the S4: I'm glad to see I'm not the only one ditching Samsung for their anti-user policies. I have owned every Galaxy phone 1-5. Not anymore. I've all but decided on the G4 for my upgrade next week. Excited about developments here!
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Umm hey guys, I have been trying my best to keep up with the root info on vzw g4, and last I heard, no luck and no bootloader unlock... Now, i dont want to jump the gun, BUT i have found a way to enable oem unlock. Is this something that has been accomplished yet? Or am I just all happy for nothing?
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Are you talking about the option in Developer options to Enable OEM Unlock? If so, that's old news. It doesn't mean you can unlock your bootloader. It's just one more hurdle before unlocking it.

Okay, just making g sure.. Back to rooting exploring.. Hey, but at least I should get some brownies for showing up right?? Where might one find a list of tried exploits or is there no such list?

I've been an android user since 2012, and this January something possessed me and I bought an iPhone 6 after having a really bad experience with the Droid Turbo. Then I realized what a monster I had become and I sold my iPhone and got the G4. Best decision I've made, and root is just going to make this great phone greater.

Tomyk89 said:
I see that there are new carrier-specific groups. Pretty sweet! Root and bootloader unlocks are just around the corner.
How is everyone liking their VZW G4? Which device did you come from?
My previous device was the G2 and i loved it! The G4 is a great upgrade.
Don't forget to go put your name down to donate to the root and bootloader bounty! We owe a lot to these devs! :highfive:
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Hey mate, the Lounge was up and running, I assume as you were posting this thread. There's no reason for two similar threads.
How about changing yours to a "Which device did you come from" thread?
Thanks @Tomyk89

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I came from the S6 and am liking the G4 very much.
EDIT 2: Back to the S6 for me... the G4 is too buggy for me.
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That was fast!
You had a defect. This camera is the main reason I haven't returned the phone. My problem is some 3D apps not loading.
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Do you guys know how to take pictures in manual mode with raw format? How many other features are missing from our phones that the other carriers left alone?
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Yes. We do know how to take DNG photos.
The vs986 is missing smart settings, but they give us the search in settings.
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Give me root or give me death! Coming from an HTC m8, Galaxy Nexus, Droid X.
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The more I use phones the less I need root. I'm debloated and... Well, that's the only thing I "need" root for.

fr4nk1yn said:
That was fast!
You had a defect. This camera is the main reason I haven't returned the phone. My problem is some 3D apps not loading.
Yes. We do know how to take DNG photos.
The vs986 is missing smart settings, but they give us the search in settings.
The more I use phones the less I need root. I'm debloated and... Well, that's the only thing I "need" root for.
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I took a greater look today and I found the option in the manual mode for raw format.
But I am starting to wonder if I have a defective phone. My battery life is horrible, I am only getting maybe two hours of on screen time and I dont use my phone most days. I have tried factory reset, not loading third party apps and the like but it still wont go above the 2 hour mark of on screen time.

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I took a greater look today and I found the option in the manual mode for raw format.
But I am starting to wonder if I have a defective phone. My battery life is horrible, I am only getting maybe two hours of on screen time and I dont use my phone most days. I have tried factory reset, not loading third party apps and the like but it still wont go above the 2 hour mark of on screen time.
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I had the battery drain once. It was 3 hours for me, but it was only once.
They have the raw setting hidden in plain sight. I googled it.
Reviewers all out the G4 up against the S6 and its nearly as good as my older point and shoots. You need to check further into defects.

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I had the battery drain once. It was 3 hours for me, but it was only once.
They have the raw setting hidden in plain sight. I googled it.
Reviewers all out the G4 up against the S6 and its nearly as good as my older point and shoots. You need to check further into defects.
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I am thinking my unit is defective, there are other issues that I have been having as well. I think that I am going to call and get them to send a replacement.

Any XL Custom ROM's also have a Pixel variant?

So bummed to be a Pixel owner these days. I don't know if there is a device running android with as little support as there is for the Sailfish. Do any of the Pixel XL custom ROM's also have a Pixel version? I like the phone but am getting so so bored with it. These dual boot partitions are pretty much the kiss of death for development activity, can't say I really blame devs who steer clear. Anyway, was just curious. Thanks to anyone who takes the time to ready the note from my little pity party. :silly:

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So bummed to be a Pixel owner these days. I don't know if there is a device running android with as little support as there is for the Sailfish. Do any of the Pixel XL custom ROM's also have a Pixel version? I like the phone but am getting so so bored with it. These dual boot partitions are pretty much the kiss of death for development activity, can't say I really blame devs who steer clear. Anyway, was just curious. Thanks to anyone who takes the time to ready the note from my little pity party. :silly:
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How long have you been an Android user? I don't know about you, but coming from eclair, it's come a looooong way. While I love custom roms on most devices, stock Android has gotten really good.

dictionary said:
How long have you been an Android user? I don't know about you, but coming from eclair, it's come a looooong way. While I love custom roms on most devices, stock Android has gotten really good.
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@dictionary - I've been on Android since my old HTC Aria (2010 - running eclair also). Yeah, stock is a pretty good experience these days. I just think that like a lot of users I was pretty excited about the prospects of Google putting out this phone, expecting it to be like the Nexus series. There are still some things missing, and I'm not a huge fan of Xposed modules to compensate. This is about the longest I've had a handset in about 5 years without switching, so I do like it. Anyway, think I'll just have to try a different phone next... or, I just get a cheaper, second device to satisfy my flashing whims.

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@dictionary - is been on Android since my old HTC Aria (2010 - running eclair also). Yeah, stock is a pretty good experience these days. I just think that like a lot of users I was pretty excited about the prospects of Google putting out this phone, expecting it to be like the Nexus series. There are still some things missing, and I'm not a huge fan of Xposed modules to compensate. This is about the longest I've had a handset in about 5 years without switching, so I do like it. Anyway, think I'll just have to try a different phone next... or, I just get a cheaper, second device to satisfy my flashing whims.
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I can agree to all that. Next device might be a One Plus build. I had the One Plus One, and actually loved it. Didn't have the screen or other issues others had. Their Dev community is pretty much Nexus One level, so you're covered there. Affordable too. Just pray you don't need to contact them directly lol

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I can agree to all that. Next device might be a One Plus build. I had the One Plus One, and actually loved it. Didn't have the screen or other issues others had. Their Dev community is pretty much Nexus One level, so you're covered there. Affordable too. Just pray you don't need to contact them directly lol
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I've wanted to try a OnePlus but I'm on Verizon. Pretty much none of those Chinese OEM's make CDMA variants of their phones. At least not ones that cover all the VZW LTE bands. The new Huwawei might come to VZW, but it's also priced as a flagship. I'm sort of hoping the Essential community picks up now that the device is basically being given away for a shave and a haircut considering its specs. Not 100% sure if they've followed the same dual boot partition scenario, I know that the Razer phone does. I might hold out to see what LG does. They're dropping the G line and rebranding their flagship.

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I've wanted to try a OnePlus but I'm on Verizon. Pretty much none of those Chinese OEM's make CDMA variants of their phones. At least not ones that cover all the VZW LTE bands. The new Huwawei might come to VZW, but it's also priced as a flagship. I'm sort of hoping the Essential community picks up now that the device is basically being given away for a shave and a haircut considering its specs. Not 100% sure if they've followed the same dual boot partition scenario, I know that the Razer phone does. I might hold out to see what LG does. They're dropping the G line and rebranding their flagship.
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I'd love an Essential Phone. If they come out with another device, and fix their pricing, they may be a contender. I honestly love the LG v30, but would only buy the unlocked version

what are the odds of getting root on this phone

I know it's only out for reviewers and what not but I'm looking forward to the device, not only that but I'm looking to upgrade my rooted V20 and wanted to know the chances of the G7 being rooted

Only European and US unlocked will get official bootloader unlock (as far as we have seen in many variants before) and root other variant may or may not find a way to root

numpea said:
Only European and US unlocked will get official bootloader unlock (as far as we have seen in many variants before) and root other variant may or may not find a way to root
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Well that's blows

Joe199799 said:
Well that's blows
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Yup. And that is exactly the reason the v30 will be my last LG phone. At least the new HTC comes out soon and HTC has previously been dev friendly

Josh McGrath said:
Yup. And that is exactly the reason the v30 will be my last LG phone. At least the new HTC comes out soon and HTC has previously been dev friendly
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Honestly it's a shame I was seriously looking at this phone, but what's more unfortunate is I'm starting to feel rooting is going the way of the dodo, more or less for big brands Samsung and LG for instance. HTC has always been pretty Dev friendly, it's just a shame I stuck with Android all this time because I had the freedom to root and do whatever I wanted and now it's just become a hollow shell of itself

I'd say odds are piratically zero unless you get an unlocked variant, even then it can take months for LG to release the code for unlock. I am looking elsewhere manufacture wise. I have a G3 and it is on its last legs.

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Yup. And that is exactly the reason the v30 will be my last LG phone. At least the new HTC comes out soon and HTC has previously been dev friendly
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Honestly it's a shame I was seriously looking at this phone, but what's more unfortunate is I'm starting to feel rooting is going the way of the dodo, more or less for big brands Samsung and LG for instance. HTC has always been pretty Dev friendly, it's just a shame I stuck with Android all this time because I had the freedom to root and do whatever I wanted and now it's just become a hollow shell of itself
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For all of you that say HTC is so great, Let me tell you.. I was once a huge LG fan back in the G3 days and V10(Which went knowwhere) and then I said I would never touch another LG again, So I went HTC10,
was great at first, a bit pricey for the money, But to make a long story short. all HTC's battery suck.. your device will die within 1 year. but you will notice the issue way before, like 6 months to less..
when it happen to me, I thought maybe it was just me, then after me, other friends of mine, started having issues, and then friends of theirs had issues, and coming from a Developer on HTC10,
I can tell you, the scene sucks. the users can be rude, even know that is everywhere.. but cant explain unless your a dev, and even know you can s/off which will cost you 25.00, no biggie, lets you rebrand your device too... and unlock your bootloaders, but as for scene, Its not really there.. a few roms and a few things, but nothing big.. I created PureFusionOS originally on a HTC10, and I created Nebula Kernel Originally on a LG G3,
then Ported the first EAS Kernel to HTC10 on MM then N and not on Oreo......... So, dev friendly as it is, it has its draw backs.. I personally wont get another HTC do to the crappy batteries..
If none believe me, click on the Telegram group on my sig and ask in there.. you will see for your self.......
as for the oods of getting root, anything is possible.. look at the v30.. look at the g6 and v20 and so on, Most didnt think that would happen... its a challenge.. I wouldnt say you would get it soon,
but sooner or later.. if you truly want software and dont care about hardware, get OP6........................... But if you want a device that can outperform most others, Samsung,LG and Google.............
yeah sony too.. just not a fan of Sony.............

Eliminater74 said:
For all of you that say HTC is so great, Let me tell you.. I was once a huge LG fan back in the G3 days and V10(Which went knowwhere) and then I said I would never touch another LG again, So I went HTC10,
was great at first, a bit pricey for the money, But to make a long story short. all HTC's battery suck.. your device will die within 1 year. but you will notice the issue way before, like 6 months to less..
when it happen to me, I thought maybe it was just me, then after me, other friends of mine, started having issues, and then friends of theirs had issues, and coming from a Developer on HTC10,
I can tell you, the scene sucks. the users can be rude, even know that is everywhere.. but cant explain unless your a dev, and even know you can s/off which will cost you 25.00, no biggie, lets you rebrand your device too... and unlock your bootloaders, but as for scene, Its not really there.. a few roms and a few things, but nothing big.. I created PureFusionOS originally on a HTC10, and I created Nebula Kernel Originally on a LG G3,
then Ported the first EAS Kernel to HTC10 on MM then N and not on Oreo......... So, dev friendly as it is, it has its draw backs.. I personally wont get another HTC do to the crappy batteries..
If none believe me, click on the Telegram group on my sig and ask in there.. you will see for your self.......
as for the oods of getting root, anything is possible.. look at the v30.. look at the g6 and v20 and so on, Most didnt think that would happen... its a challenge.. I wouldnt say you would get it soon,
but sooner or later.. if you truly want software and dont care about hardware, get OP6........................... But if you want a device that can outperform most others, Samsung,LG and Google.............
yeah sony too.. just not a fan of Sony.............
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Sony phones are locked down tighter than a nuns vagina so I won't go that way again.
I had an htc M9 and the battery was TERRIBLE. 3 hours I was at 60pct of little use, and this was brand new. So the battery issue has to be better than it was then. But most of us buy our phones and never plan to keep then longer than a year Max and most of us also use the payments so the OP6 and others like it are not affordable, especially for my broke ass.
LG makes great phones, they really do, but I want absolute control over something I legally own (for the time being ) and I think everyone else feels the same way. I haven't given up on LG just yet but for time being, I'm using the Motorola z2 force soley cause it can be rooted easily...well I thought easily anyway. Google's seemless update confuses me with two.
That being said, my hopes are still up, hanging by a string for the next LG model, but this time I won't buy it until root is achieved/released..if ever.

Sigh.
I swore to never own another LG phone after the G4 fiasco, but here I am a few years later - literally about to pull the trigger.
I don't care about the notch or the AI features - I just wanted a good phone with: a headphone jack, bigger screen, and most of all - a wide angle lens. I had my heart set out on an ASUS Zenfone 5 for a while but the wide angle camera has apparently been somewhat disappointing.
I currently own a Pixel 2 XL and a Galaxy S8+ Exynos version, both have been a blast to have because of the ease of being able to flash a new ROM and what not. I know for a fact that having this new G7 means losing the ability to customise the phone, but I'm left with little options as my desires for a wide angle lens has become far too great. I could get a secondary lens for my DSLR but snapping pictures very quickly with a phone has become the norm. Oh well, I'm probably going to get the G7, I'm prepared for a locked bootloader

Question what about for the Verizon editions are those going to be unlocked by Verizon and allowed to root?

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Question what about for the Verizon editions are those going to be unlocked by Verizon and allowed to root?
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Verizon will never unlock the bootloaders on any phone they sell. Basically, if you want root, the general rule is to not buy Verizon phones 99pct of the time they are not unlockable

I though while ago few years there was a law passed that allowed modifications to phones legal?

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I though while ago few years there was a law passed that allowed modifications to phones legal?
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I think that law may have been to physically mod phones? I can't quite remember.
But yeah, Verizon = no bootloader unlock, ever. I am hoping T-Mobile's buy one get one free promo will get the phone in more user's hands. More users should lead to more desires for development. The last LG phone I had was the G4 and there was an odd way of getting root on the phone.. I really hope there will be devs to work on the G7. As always, I'm ready to donate money to get root and the ability to flash ROM's.. honestly, I just want AOSP icons on the statusbar :laugh: I hate ugly statusbar icons!

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I think that law may have been to physically mod phones? I can't quite remember.
But yeah, Verizon = no bootloader unlock, ever. I am hoping T-Mobile's buy one get one free promo will get the phone in more user's hands. More users should lead to more desires for development. The last LG phone I had was the G4 and there was an odd way of getting root on the phone.. I really hope there will be devs to work on the G7. As always, I'm ready to donate money to get root and the ability to flash ROM's.. honestly, I just want AOSP icons on the statusbar :laugh: I hate ugly statusbar icons!
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Considering how incredibly slow LG was to add the V30 unlock codes to the official site, and still no OFFICIAL support for the open market V30/V30+ US998 model, I have serious doubts the G7 will be added to the list, at all. If you have a European variant, I envy you. They DO have laws that require companies to allow for modification. The US has pathetic loopholes in right to repair which even Apple and Microsoft scoff at, let along a smaller company like LG. They simply don't care about the dev or modder community. They would much rather have you get a new phone every year because the former was crippled by poor software and lack of support.
I'm rocking a LG G3 vs985 and it is really in bad shape now that thermal issues have led to SD card failure. I might have to reflow the solder to get it working long enough to see if the G7 will get root, or if there are alternatives.

Eliminater74 said:
For all of you that say HTC is so great, Let me tell you.. I was once a huge LG fan back in the G3 days and V10(Which went knowwhere) and then I said I would never touch another LG again, So I went HTC10,
was great at first, a bit pricey for the money, But to make a long story short. all HTC's battery suck.. your device will die within 1 year. but you will notice the issue way before, like 6 months to less..
when it happen to me, I thought maybe it was just me, then after me, other friends of mine, started having issues, and then friends of theirs had issues, and coming from a Developer on HTC10,
I can tell you, the scene sucks. the users can be rude, even know that is everywhere.. but cant explain unless your a dev, and even know you can s/off which will cost you 25.00, no biggie, lets you rebrand your device too... and unlock your bootloaders, but as for scene, Its not really there.. a few roms and a few things, but nothing big.. I created PureFusionOS originally on a HTC10, and I created Nebula Kernel Originally on a LG G3,
then Ported the first EAS Kernel to HTC10 on MM then N and not on Oreo......... So, dev friendly as it is, it has its draw backs.. I personally wont get another HTC do to the crappy batteries..
If none believe me, click on the Telegram group on my sig and ask in there.. you will see for your self.......
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I am currently researching various sites such as XDA now being in the market for a new smartphone out of necessity. That necessity...... Echoing the quoted portion of your previous post...... Is " thanks " to the battery of my HTC 10. I write this with my HTC 10 tethered to a charger because not connected to power once the status bar battery icon shows 70 % it is a very short wait until it bootloops with the only course of action then being a vol. Down + power button combo press to get into download mode...... Select power off...... And connect the HTC 10 back to a power source ( at which point it displays that the 70 % screen on battery power remaining is actually around 8 %.
The HTC 10 battery does indeed suck. Researching now for a new smartphone is leading me to think there are only 2 options that tick the boxes of my wants...... Among those wants being latest hardware with a Good + camera, SD card slot for storage expansion, and ability to be rooted. It appears the 2 smartphones to come the closest to meeting those wants are the LG G7 and Samsung S9 ( and unfortunately it appears presently the want of root may not happen with either of those 2 smartphone options [ Snapdragon versions. ] )
I suppose I could deal with my always-needing-to-be-tethered HTC 10 a little while longer to enter the U12 in the purchase running ( that I presume will be rootable ) but I will be concerned of having another battery nightmare with a HTC smartphone......
Ganuke

I haven't rooted my phones for a few years now. I dont see the necessity for it anymore ( I respect the opinion of others who have their reasons for rooting.. i just have no justifiable reason for myself)
I still use xda a lot for reviews , q&a , discussions etc just not for development.
To me, phones have come a loooooong way from the days of the LG G2x etc where rooting was a MUST if you wanted a phone that could even last the entire day

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I am currently researching various sites such as XDA now being in the market for a new smartphone out of necessity. That necessity...... Echoing the quoted portion of your previous post...... Is " thanks " to the battery of my HTC 10. I write this with my HTC 10 tethered to a charger because not connected to power once the status bar battery icon shows 70 % it is a very short wait until it bootloops with the only course of action then being a vol. Down + power button combo press to get into download mode...... Select power off...... And connect the HTC 10 back to a power source ( at which point it displays that the 70 % screen on battery power remaining is actually around 8 %.
The HTC 10 battery does indeed suck. Researching now for a new smartphone is leading me to think there are only 2 options that tick the boxes of my wants...... Among those wants being latest hardware with a Good + camera, SD card slot for storage expansion, and ability to be rooted. It appears the 2 smartphones to come the closest to meeting those wants are the LG G7 and Samsung S9 ( and unfortunately it appears presently the want of root may not happen with either of those 2 smartphone options [ Snapdragon versions. ] )
I suppose I could deal with my always-needing-to-be-tethered HTC 10 a little while longer to enter the U12 in the purchase running ( that I presume will be rootable ) but I will be concerned of having another battery nightmare with a HTC smartphone......
Ganuke
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I'm actually in the exact same boat as you - although my battery isn't quite as bad on the HTC 10 yet, it's definitely dying 2 or more times a day on me. It's a great phone and I wouldn't be itching for an upgrade if the battery was still good. I like the U12+ but after this(and previously my One M8) having both battery or charging port related issues, wireless charging on my next device is a must. Unfortunately like you said both the Snapdragon S9+ and the G7 are the only current real options and neither of them seem to be getting any traction in the root department. The s9+ is especially interesting to me because I would think the USA would have a HUGE market for people buying and modifying that phone but it seems as though that just isn't so.
Back to the G7 - this is the first time I've ever even considered an LG and this device looks freaking great, but I want to not only de-bloat and adblock, but also have the ability to run free WiFi tether on Sprint as well as the fun of changing out ROMs(although the older and busier I get the more tedious this becomes).
Eagerly watching from the sidelines on what happens with this phone though!

Darkning said:
I'm actually in the exact same boat as you - although my battery isn't quite as bad on the HTC 10 yet, it's definitely dying 2 or more times a day on me. It's a great phone and I wouldn't be itching for an upgrade if the battery was still good. I like the U12+ but after this(and previously my One M8) having both battery or charging port related issues, wireless charging on my next device is a must. Unfortunately like you said both the Snapdragon S9+ and the G7 are the only current real options and neither of them seem to be getting any traction in the root department. The s9+ is especially interesting to me because I would think the USA would have a HUGE market for people buying and modifying that phone but it seems as though that just isn't so.
Back to the G7 - this is the first time I've ever even considered an LG and this device looks freaking great, but I want to not only de-bloat and adblock, but also have the ability to run free WiFi tether on Sprint as well as the fun of changing out ROMs(although the older and busier I get the more tedious this becomes).
Eagerly watching from the sidelines on what happens with this phone though!
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Not a good thing reading that you had battery related issues on a previous HTC smartphone as well as the 10...... As far as my thought of a U12 being in the running for my next soon-to-be purchase each new day I become increasingly frustrated with needing to be constantly tethered to a power source with my HTC 10. I also have a Google Nexus 10 tablet ( that I believe has HTC battery hardware ) which in the past few months has been major off-and-on issues that after online researching of others experiencing the same thing attribute likely to HTC battery hardware in the Google Nexus 10. Early reviews of the HTC U12 do seem promising...... But after the cost of a flagship phone I do not want to find myself having the same battery nightmare a little over a year from now as I am with this HTC 10.
It is a real shame as so long as I am tethered to a power source my HTC 10 still runs like a champ in every other aspect. Another shame is something you mentioned in root / mod activity on XDA seems to have really declined for most smartphone brands...... And that does not give me hope of there arriving root for either the Samsung S9 or LG G7. If I am destined for the LG G7 I am considering holding out for one of the 2 merchants listed on the LG website to get in stock a carrier unlocked version of it...... In hopes that could make it a little easier / likely for eventual bootloader unlock and root. If not I will just have to get use to it being my first Android smartphone that I did not have root on.
With that scenario in mind I have been researching on alternate methods to try and do as close to some of the basic things I have always utilized with root. One thing you mention is debloat. Searching with a phrasing similar to " remove bloat no root " did return a result from XDA that I likely will try And there do exist adblock, firewall, etc. apps that do not require root...... But my guess is they will not function as well as those with root. I have had a few Samsung, a couple Motorola, and this one HTC ( 10 ) branded smartphones...... A purchase of a G7 would be my first LG as well......
Ganuke

Ganuke2kx said:
Not a good thing reading that you had battery related issues on a previous HTC smartphone as well as the 10...... As far as my thought of a U12 being in the running for my next soon-to-be purchase each new day I become increasingly frustrated with needing to be constantly tethered to a power source with my HTC 10. I also have a Google Nexus 10 tablet ( that I believe has HTC battery hardware ) which in the past few months has been major off-and-on issues that after online researching of others experiencing the same thing attribute likely to HTC battery hardware in the Google Nexus 10. Early reviews of the HTC U12 do seem promising...... But after the cost of a flagship phone I do not want to find myself having the same battery nightmare a little over a year from now as I am with this HTC 10.
It is a real shame as so long as I am tethered to a power source my HTC 10 still runs like a champ in every other aspect. Another shame is something you mentioned in root / mod activity on XDA seems to have really declined for most smartphone brands...... And that does not give me hope of there arriving root for either the Samsung S9 or LG G7. If I am destined for the LG G7 I am considering holding out for one of the 2 merchants listed on the LG website to get in stock a carrier unlocked version of it...... In hopes that could make it a little easier / likely for eventual bootloader unlock and root. If not I will just have to get use to it being my first Android smartphone that I did not have root on.
With that scenario in mind I have been researching on alternate methods to try and do as close to some of the basic things I have always utilized with root. One thing you mention is debloat. Searching with a phrasing similar to " remove bloat no root " did return a result from XDA that I likely will try And there do exist adblock, firewall, etc. apps that do not require root...... But my guess is they will not function as well as those with root. I have had a few Samsung, a couple Motorola, and this one HTC ( 10 ) branded smartphones...... A purchase of a G7 would be my first LG as well......
Ganuke
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The prior HTC phone (One m8) didn't really have battery issues, but the charging port (microusb) failed on me. I believe this is going to be much less of an issue going forward with USB C connections so I wouldn't really say that's a major concern. I've had HTC phones all the way back to the EVO 4G, and generally did not have issues with battery or power related things. At this point we're going off topic though. Hopefully someone with the talent and ability finds a passion in figuring out root for the G7.

Darkning said:
At this point we're going off topic though. Hopefully someone with the talent and ability finds a passion in figuring out root for the G7.
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Allllthoooough...... If you and I continue conversing regardless of topic maybe we can bump the thread count up high enough to attract a talented and abled person to take a look here and ultimately detail a root strategy for the LG G7 ( can always hope. )
So on that thought...... How Is the weather where you are ?
Ganuke