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Anyone else getting irritated by HTC?

And there fake release date news for 2.2?

Me, me, me.... damn it HTC
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nah
more irritated with google for not having App2SD functionality in the FIRST android release.
if it wasn't for the bogus 512mb "ROM limit" on installing apps, i wouldnt be awaiting froyo with such baited breath.

Yep been waiting all weekend! We should put a post when someone actually gets the 1st update from htc so we know!
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The weekend is not yet finished. So, I see no reasons to get upset.
And anyway, they might have really started to roll-out, as HTC Germany says.
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Yeah but during weekend is not when its 1 minute over midnight to monday.. it should already been out so people can update whenever they feel like during the weekend.. stop the teasing and just get it out when its so close.

Nope, not at all. You'll get it when you get it. Chill.

wally80 said:
The weekend is not yet finished. So, I see no reasons to get upset.
And anyway, they might have really started to roll-out, as HTC Germany says.
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This. IIRC it was only Germany and NL that "officially" announced it was coming, so nobody else has the right to ***** anyway if it doesnt.

If I wanted to be treated like this I would have bought a iPhone.

Of course I'm not irritated, I have a life!

ix9 said:
nah
more irritated with google for not having App2SD functionality in the FIRST android release.
if it wasn't for the bogus 512mb "ROM limit" on installing apps, i wouldnt be awaiting froyo with such baited breath.
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What limited would that be, and because as far as i'm aware the limit is hardware - the Dell Streak running 1.6 has 2gb available for apps storage.
Regards,
Dave

I really think some people need to step away from the internet and go out and have some fun. If it's here when you get back then you can install; if it's not then not.
Surely an update to your mobile phone can not be the most important thing in your lives...

Not in the least bothered really when it comes, today, tomorrow, next week.
I already have Froyo and its running sweet.

How many stupid Desire users does it take to screw in a lightbulb ?
The be honest I am more irritated by dumb-fu-ks who have more time than brain cells and have to whinge about everything including the firmware release of a completely functional mobile phone. Even worse is the fact that two mouse clicks away is another section of the forum where they could easily download and run about a dozen versions of Android 2.2 hacked/packed/delivered with all the bells and whistles.
So people put the fu-king phone down, chill out, go outside and take a breath of fresh air. You will live longer ....
THE UPDATE WILL COME WHEN IT COMES..... Jumping up and down about it, checking the OTA update on the phone every 2 microseconds and making another 1.4 billion new threads won't make it appear any faster...
Next instalment in the new pointless thread forum - "I fu-ked up my phone when updating the OTA ! Help !!!", "Why won't the HTC OTA work on my Orange/Virgin/crap branded Desire" and my favourite "What's an OTA", oh and another "Anyone got Froyo Update?" (speak of the devil http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741397 )

NutsyUK said:
And there fake release date news for 2.2?
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Nope, not really. Pretty much every company releases dates then has to put it back to some extent, this is nothing new.

fredaroony said:
If I wanted to be treated like this I would have bought a iPhone.
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And your reason? Apple are on time with everything mate. Don't be such a hater lol

If i knew this I would never have bought Desire.

soupratt said:
The be honest I am more irritated by dumb-fu-ks who have more time than brain cells [....]
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you do have a point here. but: why do you get so angry?
you accuse them of having nothing else to do than wait for the froyo release. yet, you fail to convey this in an appropriate manner: In order to make them realize that they are poor souls (whose sole purpose in life is a phone software update), you better tell them in a way they don't perceive as *****ing and hating.
however, the way you get all angry about them raises the suspicion that you yourself have little else to do in your free time. complaining about them doesn't help anyone!

BuroBernd said:
In order to make them realize that they are poor souls (whose sole purpose in life is a phone software update), you better tell them in a way they don't perceive as *****ing and hating.
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Do explain ... I just didn't think I could convey it simply enough without sign language and hand puppets. I really was typing V e r y s l o w l y for those "special" members.
Btw, my tongue is deeply buried in my cheek

mortuus82 said:
Yeah but during weekend is not when its 1 minute over midnight to monday.. it should already been out so people can update whenever they feel like during the weekend.. stop the teasing and just get it out when its so close.
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i beleve they said the "roll out" would START this weekend, that says nothing about anyone actuall getting it this weekend :s do you know what the " roll out " involves? because i dont lol
Nuntius said:
Of course I'm not irritated, I have a life!
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wow someone thats normal i thought i was the only one lol

Android's camera finally works!!!

Thanks to Tiad's amazing work!!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904918

not true, so far only rhod 210 and rhod 400 are working, people with and rhod 100,300 etc. are having issues

So this is a thread that just links to another thread in this same section?..

EGOvoruhk said:
So this is a thread that just links to another thread in this same section?..
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you're right... it's really a useless thread!

jookdakang23 said:
Thanks to Tiad's amazing work!!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904918
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Again, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Not to denigrate Tiad's contributions, but you should instead be giving credit to VirusCrazy and BZO instead. I also agree with the previous posters who feel this thread is useless. As anyone who has been following camera progress knows, the latest info on camera dev work can be found in the [DEV - Camera (Diamond, Blackstone, Raphael, Rhodium) ] Camera tests thread.

one day day everything will probably work on devices that didnt originally run android but when that day comes well all have probably upgraded.
thats why u see most people drop development...they upgrade to a true device.
anyways tho they are right only some work

Blu3ManiC said:
one day day everything will probably work on devices that didnt originally run android but when that day comes well all have probably upgraded.
thats why u see most people drop development...they upgrade to a true device.
anyways tho they are right only some work
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that's true, but you forget that some of the phones are amazing, like the touch pro 2, atm. in my eyes this is an beautifull phone, an big keyboard, 2 camera's, big touch screen (to bad its no multi touch, ah well) the htc 7 pro is also cool yeah but think about how much this phone will cost, the price of that phone will be an normal buying price (im talking about the device without an subscription) in about 2 years, and then there will be another new phone everyone wants. You can say that upgrade is probably the best option, but is it financial the best way?
In my opinion the best way for these htc phones is for some people maybe learning the development process. Being able to fix your own bugs on the android port, that way it will be easier to port android (or other new mobile operating systems even tough they wont have the same builds, you will have some basic knowledge so it will be easier) to new phones faster because more and more people have the knowledge of it.
But this is just my opinion
I recently bought an touch pro 2 and im dying to get an good android port on it.
2 weeks ago i started learning the process of how android actualy works
atm. i dont understand allot but i sure do understand allot,
And if everyone stops developing for the htc touch pro 2, i will continue learning it (i am seeing myself being 50 and finnaly having an properly ported android on this phone lol.)

shatred said:
not true, so far only rhod 210 and rhod 400 are working, people with and rhod 100,300 etc. are having issues
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im using rhod 100 and camera is working ;o

cipendejls said:
im using rhod 100 and camera is working ;o
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explain to me what you did...
Just used the all the files tiad provided?
or did you used other files beside his?

I have a 210 and the camera never worked with this build. I could likely have done something wrong.

Worked for me
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I have a 210 and the camera never worked with this build. I could likely have done something wrong.
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Well, I have a 210 and it works for me also. I have tried the code scanning software also and it works as well. Just drop all files into the appropriate folders as told in the install guide from that page. Mine works like a charm and pics are just as good as WinMo.

shatred said:
explain to me what you did...
Just used the all the files tiad provided?
or did you used other files beside his?
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i used only files that he gave us. nothing more besides that i edited startup to rhod100

I'll double check the thread, but I don't believe it specifies folders that need to be used. Everything else worked. And the fxcamera didn't crash. It simply didn't show any image on the screen. Rereading it, it does say "open all apps then reboot. Not exactly sure what that means...Open every single application on the phone? That would be odd...

4.0.3 vs 4.0.4 stock browser

I 've seen that the stock browser between 4.0.2/4.0.3 has become a lot better.
All the changelogs(4.0.4) say that stock browser has become "noticeably faster". But I haven't quite get if this is against 4.0.2(which was the last official release) or 4.0.3.
P.S. Can anyone extract the apk and post it or link to it? Because I heard that if you install the new gapps you have to wipe fully. I am not asking for something against the rules...right?

Just download the Gapp and extract the browser from there.

I thought about that but I am too noob to believe it is so easy!
Let's see

I extracted the browser for you.
http://www.mediafire.com/?abfai9vfj7ds8un
Cheers.

After the permissions it says "Application not installed". Maybe my AOKP M3 doesn't qualify somehow. Thanks though

matrixlord said:
After the permissions it says "Application not installed". Maybe my AOKP M3 doesn't qualify somehow. Thanks though
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Just replace the shortcut on the dock.

Yeah, it should work on any 4.0.3 ROM. Just replace the file in system/app and change the dock shortcut.

Oh! Thanks, got it now. I didn't know I could just copy it to /system/app...

mattymac said:
I extracted the browser for you.
http://www.mediafire.com/?abfai9vfj7ds8un
Cheers.
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I didn't expect it to be that much more noticeably quicker than 4.0.3! I was using Chrome, but now I've uninstalled it and switched back to this.
Thanks!

Yes! It's not just my idea! Right?
I can browse/scroll desktop version youtube very smoothly
(Can't wait for the 4.0.4 GSM!!!)

Google should've really launched the phone with 4.0.4. As everyone knows, first impressions are key. I knew the Gnex would only get better but most reviewers were so harsh.

itch808 said:
Google should've really launched the phone with 4.0.4. As everyone knows, first impressions are key. I knew the Gnex would only get better but most reviewers were so harsh.
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You are certainly right. But GN is a developer's phone. And carriers tend to have allergies to easy-to-unlock phones so they don't care anyway. And the actual clients(unfortunately) are the carriers, not us. That's why nexus phones never sell, as they should anyway. Take for example Nexus one which was a lot ahead of its time.
At least when ICS comes formally to Razr and SGS2, it is going to be awesome for the users. And then there will be the SGS3 with a very mature ICS.
(You cannot imagine the amount of bloatware Vodafone installs at their mobiles here in Greece )

itch808 said:
Google should've really launched the phone with 4.0.4. As everyone knows, first impressions are key. I knew the Gnex would only get better but most reviewers were so harsh.
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My GSM was just fine out of the box back in November, sure the battery life wasn't as good as it now but more than enough to get thru a day of heavy use. I really had no complaints as it was. Maybe my memory is just bad though, what was so wrong with it at release?

Can this be installed on CM9 for Galaxy S II I'm asking due to different resolution. Or it doesn't even matter?

Konstantinos said:
Can this be installed on CM9 for Galaxy S II I'm asking due to different resolution. Or it doesn't even matter?
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just try it and find out, it only takes 10 seconds to figure it out

Don't want to screw the app. I'm asking some with experience form other ROMs. Not if he has already done it.

Just bought an HTC One X. Mistake?

After I made the purchase, I started reading about a lot of bugs, so I have a few questions:
1. Do games run great on this device?
2. Are there home screen redraws (where you click home button to get out of an app and go to home screen, but it's blank for a couple seconds until the home screen slowly redraws itself)?
3. Is the external speaker loud?
4. Is there any lag/slowdown?
5. does it run on AT&T in the USA (hspa) just fine without screwing with any settings?

Also I noticed the menu button comes up in pretty much every app which takes away like 0.2" of the screen. Disappointing.

brian85 said:
After I made the purchase, I started reading about a lot of bugs, so I have a few questions:
1. Do games run great on this device?
2. Are there home screen redraws (where you click home button to get out of an app and go to home screen, but it's blank for a couple seconds until the home screen slowly redraws itself)?
3. Is the external speaker loud?
4. Is there any lag/slowdown?
5. does it run on AT&T in the USA (hspa) just fine without screwing with any settings?
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if u already have the device with you why dont u try these urself

What he said

brian85 said:
Also I noticed the menu button comes up in pretty much every app which takes away like 0.2" of the screen. Disappointing.
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This is not a fault with the phone, g nexus takes up the same space with its soft buttons. The software needs to be changed, it's not a deal breaker IMO.
Have to assume OP has not yet received the phone.
1. Don't play games
2. Not that I have seen
3. Seems fine to me, better than my G Nexus
4. That is down to user perception, mine seems fine
5. Check the supported frequencies of the device and your carrier (sorry in the uk)
The majority of your concerns will be addressed by updates if they exit
Thanks
Barry

It's like anything. The 1st version of the new software is usually buggy. The first version of 4.0.1 on the gnex was not the best but now 4.0.4 is out it is a lot better. Games run really well though.
I also use nova launcher and the home screen is much faster.

saj2001ind said:
if u already have the device with you why dont u try these urself
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I ordered it online. Not here yet.

brian85 said:
5. does it run on AT&T in the USA (hspa) just fine without screwing with any settings?
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My one was imported from Singapore, and came with pre-loaded APN settings that I could select for AT&T if I choose the reset to default option in the APN list. However, the APN that it came with was only the 'wap.cingular' APN that standard 3G devices use. It will work with any data plan for phones including the data plan for feature phones. If you want to get the fastest speeds, you will have to add a 'Phone' APN and make sure that your account is provisioned with an HSPA+ data plan.

I'm thinking about canceling my order. I'm reading about WAY too many bugs.

There's nothing wrong with the hardware it's excellent, software needs a couple updates that's about it, it's a fantastic device.

brian85 said:
I'm thinking about canceling my order. I'm reading about WAY too many bugs.
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Install a custom ROM or wait a day or two for the OTA and the bugs will all be sorted. With Android (Especially HTC devices with their huge developer community) it doesn't make sense to base your purchase on software issues.

brian85 said:
I'm thinking about canceling my order. I'm reading about WAY too many bugs.
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okay.have fun with your SG3 or whatever.bye

A major software update is coming very, very soon.

Few things:
1. I always keep my phones stock, so no roms for me.
2. I would never buy a phone that has touchwiz on it.
3. Has a software update already been announced? When will it be available?

What if update to fix the issues will come after 2-3 months. Too long! it should have been less buggy if HTC didn't rushed it.

I'll give it a shot. If I don't like it, I'll send it right back.

peacekeeper05 said:
What if update to fix the issues will come after 2-3 months. Too long! it should have been less buggy if HTC didn't rushed it.
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1. Chillax!
2. The update is coming! Soon! HTC aint stupid, they have just been to fast this time! BUT they made it... they were the first with a quadcore smartphone! Now they are working there asses of, to save face, because they know that the software wasnt interely ready! Sit back... relax... its coming!
Otherwise... their business will suffer big time... and thats bad... for them!

MrGarak said:
There's nothing wrong with the hardware it's excellent, software needs a couple updates that's about it, it's a fantastic device.
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When it comes to hardware I believe in HTC for producing best from what they can. Planning to Buy the HTC One X next week.
I believe that Android IC is very RAW at this moment and not all the manufacturers would take the risk to get their hands dirty but HTC did.
Lets wait for some stable ROM's coming on XDA

brian85 said:
I'm thinking about canceling my order. I'm reading about WAY too many bugs.
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If you want a bug free phone, don't get one that's been out for two weeks. Get one that's been out for a year or more.
Maybe a Sensation (XE/XL).

New update for A51 & A71

Samsung has released a new software update bringing a range of leading Galaxy S20 features to the Galaxy A series. Galaxy A51 and A71 device users will now be able to harness some of the Galaxy S20 series’ powerful innovations, designed to make the way we capture, connect and share more dynamic than ever before.
https://news.samsung.com/global/gal...features-thanks-to-the-latest-software-update
Update 14-07-2020: Updated received on my unlocked A71.
It's 1842,98MB

It's brilliant that Samsung keeps updating the A series but honestly (probably besides some security patches) there is nothing interesting in this update
I guess that for pictures and videos pro users already use filmic Pro, open camera or port of Google camera
The rest is just gimmick.

DonAndress said:
It's brilliant that Samsung keeps updating the A series but honestly (probably besides some security patches) there is nothing interesting in this update
I guess that for pictures and videos pro users already use filmic Pro, open camera or port of Google camera
The rest is just gimmick.
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Yeah, I'm waiting for the OneUI 2.1 update

JordyEGNL said:
Yeah, I'm waiting for the OneUI 2.1 update
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What does it do?
I replace all stock Launchers with Nova. Will OneUI 2.1 make sense for me?

DonAndress said:
What does it do?
I replace all stock Launchers with Nova. Will OneUI 2.1 make sense for me?
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You can search online for the difference between the two. I really want Audio Share so I can share audio with friends

DonAndress said:
It's brilliant that Samsung keeps updating the A series but honestly (probably besides some security patches) there is nothing interesting in this update
I guess that for pictures and videos pro users already use filmic Pro, open camera or port of Google camera
The rest is just gimmick.
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Everytime I'm here I always see a distasteful post from you. If you're not happy with your device and support it comes with it then do yourself a favor, sell it and buy something else.
Thanks.

Yepi69 said:
Everytime I'm here I always see a distasteful post from you. If you're not happy with your device and support it comes with it then do yourself a favor, sell it and buy something else.
Thanks.
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ROTFL [emoji28]
Where did you see me saying that I'm not happy with my phone? I actually think it's brilliant (especially the battery) while costs a fraction of S20 [emoji3]
But at the same time I'm not gonna praise all software changes it gets if I don't like it. That's called being a fanboy, buddy.
You seem not to understand what I say. But you can always ask [emoji6]

Yepi69 said:
Everytime I'm here I always see a distasteful post from you. If you're not happy with your device and support it comes with it then do yourself a favor, sell it and buy something else.
Thanks.
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Same goes for you towards any forum. He never said he don't like the phone, only commenting the update, wich is helpful in general or specific.

andreoide said:
Same goes for you towards any forum. He never said he don't like the phone, only commenting the update, wich is helpful in general or specific.
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No it doesn't, more than once I've seen this user say this or that about the phone or the apps in it. Not talking about this thread either.

Yepi69 said:
No it doesn't, more than once I've seen this user say this or that about the phone or the apps in it. Not talking about this thread either.
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What? Prove it then. With links to my posts. I honestly can't recall complaining about this phone. No prove means you're just talking rubbish.
I did not complain about the apps, but I admit I complained about system apps not allowed to be removed (those additional from Samsung). But dude this is always the case with all phones besides android one
I will also complain about Samsung not letting the camera to be fully used by 3rd party apps (I can't get 60 fps videos, and when I set 120 fps, the phone records in 3 fps). Do you buddy think it's fair to purchase any thing and not be able to use it however the hell you want? Jeese... But again, very popular practice.
And now - hang on and sit down - other people complain about the latest system update not me - them. I've put on hold the update as I generally don't update anything.

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What? Prove it then. With links to my posts. I honestly can't recall complaining about this phone. No prove means you're just talking rubbish.
I did not complain about the apps, but I admit I complained about system apps not allowed to be removed (those additional from Samsung). But dude this is always the case with all phones besides android one
I will also complain about Samsung not letting the camera to be fully used by 3rd party apps (I can't get 60 fps videos, and when I set 120 fps, the phone records in 3 fps). Do you buddy think it's fair to purchase any thing and not be able to use it however the hell you want? Jeese... But again, very popular practice.
And now - hang on and sit down - other people complain about the latest system update not me - them. I've put on hold the update as I generally don't update anything.
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Can you guys please discuss this somewhere else? Thank you

DonAndress said:
What? Prove it then. With links to my posts. I honestly can't recall complaining about this phone. No prove means you're just talking rubbish.
I did not complain about the apps, but I admit I complained about system apps not allowed to be removed (those additional from Samsung). But dude this is always the case with all phones besides android one
I will also complain about Samsung not letting the camera to be fully used by 3rd party apps (I can't get 60 fps videos, and when I set 120 fps, the phone records in 3 fps). Do you buddy think it's fair to purchase any thing and not be able to use it however the hell you want? Jeese... But again, very popular practice.
And now - hang on and sit down - other people complain about the latest system update not me - them. I've put on hold the update as I generally don't update anything.
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If you put updates don't hold, don't complain when something else doesn't work as intended.

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If you put updates don't hold, don't complain when something else doesn't work as intended.
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Dude, you don't even ready what I write or you constantly have problems understanding
What I point out is not due to software issues. It is all intended and common amongst manufacturers. Most can be fixed by AOSP (which we don't have) except the camera limitations. That's entirely Samsung.
Anyway, stop talking to me. Seems like you have no clue...

DonAndress said:
Dude, you don't even ready what I write or you constantly have problems understanding
What I point out is not due to software issues. It is all intended and common amongst manufacturers. Most can be fixed by AOSP (which we don't have) except the camera limitations. That's entirely Samsung.
Anyway, stop talking to me. Seems like you have no clue...
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Well you are right in one way ?
I've seen you complain about system apps and the Google framework in it's entirety, but yeah. Obviously I don't have a clue right? ?
You want an Android One device, buy one. Simple as that.

DonAndress said:
Dude, you don't even ready what I write or you constantly have problems understanding
What I point out is not due to software issues. It is all intended and common amongst manufacturers. Most can be fixed by AOSP (which we don't have) except the camera limitations. That's entirely Samsung.
Anyway, stop talking to me. Seems like you have no clue...
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Yepi69 said:
Well you are right in one way ?
I've seen you complain about system apps and the Google framework in it's entirety, but yeah. Obviously I don't have a clue right? ?
You want an Android One device, buy one. Simple as that.
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Can you guys please make a new thread and don't spam this one with your discussion? Thank you

As for updates , my UK unlocked A71 is still on April 1 update , I know the A 71 will get updates in a " big " lump.. every quarter, but I would prefer incremental updates, rather than a huge update .. if it ever gets here .. i want to to keep stock , romed before ... done it .. hence keep stock

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i want to to keep stock , romed before ... done it .. hence keep stock
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Hmm you didn't have good experience with different roms?

DonAndress said:
Hmm you didn't have good experience with different roms?
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No it was fab , got want I wanted etc.. but I've been there done that, it was good, but took time. hence now just want " out of the box" with nova launcher. It's even helped me get full java games, apps, etc on my Chromebook .
That's why I'm still here, as they say " once you tweak you can never turn back!!"

Being new to Samsung and how they update their devices, how long does it usually take for the update to hit all channels/versions of the phone? I have the Panama version of the A71 and have not yet received the update. Just curious as to what to expect so I don't have to spam the update button throughout the day.

arecad said:
Being new to Samsung and how they update their devices, how long does it usually take for the update to hit all channels/versions of the phone? I have the Panama version of the A71 and have not yet received the update. Just curious as to what to expect so I don't have to spam the update button throughout the day.
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I'm in the same place. I have the a71 but am new to Samsung and how they update.