I have a couple of questions when it comes to the deductible and TEP replacement.
1) Drop damage - I dropped my phone on some pretty rough concrete, scuffed up a corner pretty bad. If I sharpie it it's not really noticeable, but I was wondering if they'll charge me my deductible for that.
2) Water damage - I may have (idk) tripped my internal moisture sensor... left my phone in my pants pocket during a shower, and it was pretty damp when I pulled it out.... I'm not sure how easy those are to trip though. I assume this would result in a deductible charge though?
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Cosmetic damage such as a corner scruff is not covered, not even with a deductible. Just something you have to live with. As for moisture sensor you can check it yourself by looking at your battery.
It's very difficult to damage your device with air moisture. I take my device into the shower multiple times per week and lay it on the edge of the tub on a wash rag to listen to music while I shower. I keep a Trident Aegis case on it (all ports covered). Had it since October and when I opened it to upgrade my cameras the internal indicators were still pristine.
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Wasn't wondering so much about returning it FOR the damage as I was about returning it WITH the damage.
As for internal indicator: Is it white by default? Mine has little red X's on it, though the battery sensor is blank.
Can't you just say you lost it?
1) TEP DOES cover water exposure. I know from experience and it was posted on here by sprint tecs.
2) If your phone is damaged and your going to turn it you might as well say you lost it. You will have to pay the same either way, but you get to keep your old one for parts.
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1) TEP DOES cover water exposure. I know from experience and it was posted on here by sprint tecs.
2) If your phone is damaged and your going to turn it you might as well say you lost it. You will have to pay the same either way, but you get to keep your old one for parts.
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As a Sprint Repair tech i can answer this for ya
1) TEP does cover the water damage but it through assurion for a claim and a deductable of $100.
2) If it's an inhouse exchange you can get it done for free by bringing in your old device, we order a "new" one and then trade you for your damaged one. However if your going to claim lost or stolen that chalks it back upto having the assurion company involved again for the $100 deductable. Hope this helps and if you have anyother questions about it you can shoot me a PM
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It is bad news , then good news, then bad again. My phone was stolen from where I work. It was found 5 hours later. It was really wet when it was found. (we don't know how it got wet, nor for how long it was in water..)I dried it off, put it in rice for 48 hours...I have turned it on, and it stays on for about 3 min. Then it shuts off. It will not start up again unless I take out the battery. And will do the on thing for 3 min again, etc...
So I have questions...If I keep this thing in rice for a longer period, does it have a chance of working? I filed a police report. I have a case #. What are the chances of HTC covering this by warranty? The water indicator mark on the phone itself is pink/red. The battery is pink cross-haired. It doesn't look as pink as the phone unit itself.
I called HTC just now. They are closed until Monday. I just wanted to get some varied opinions. Thanks.
well first question is, do you have insurance for the phone? i dont think HTC would take care of it as of they only replace if the phone has defects, but insurance would, theyll be your best friend in situations like this, happened to my Touch Pro, i put the sucker in rice for 5 days and its working great, only thing is that there still some spots left from the water on the screen, but its barely noticeable, but the day it got wet, called up AT&T and they said theyll send me a new phone, which how i ended up having a Tilt 2
also to add on to this, i dont think the cops can find out who stole it who knows....someone can come up and admit it....
my phone was stolen about a month ago...i just called tmo and submitted a claim via asurion...from your sig, it appears this may not be an option for you...
chances are, they will deny your claim, as the phone is in you possesion and is wet. how are they to know that your phone was stolen as opposed to you getting it wet. as a former claims adjuster, that's how I would view it.
lastly, do you have a cell phone repair shop in your area, it may be worth your while having them take a look at it, rather than getting htc involved...
if you have asurion insurance they shouldnt deny you a claim but it may be different in the area you live in, for me with sprint i must pay a $100 deductible but it covers theft, physical damage, and water damage for a replacement
No, I do not have any insurance on the phone. I have Home Owner's Insurance, but I believe my deductible is prob pretty high.
I don't know about Asurion. It looks like they cover the Carrier's phones, not an unlocked one.
I was in hopes that HTC would cover it since I didn't get it wet myself. It was stolen from my office at school...( a &*#@ student did it). Since I have a police report and case #, I can verify that it was stolen and discovered "wet." You don't think HTC would accept that? I mean, it is all true.
It is so discouraging.
Rock and a hard place
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No, I do not have any insurance on the phone. I have Home Owner's Insurance, but I believe my deductible is prob pretty high.
I don't know about Asurion. It looks like they cover the Carrier's phones, not an unlocked one.
I was in hopes that HTC would cover it since I didn't get it wet myself. It was stolen from my office at school...( a &*#@ student did it). Since I have a police report and case #, I can verify that it was stolen and discovered "wet." You don't think HTC would accept that? I mean, it is all true.
It is so discouraging.
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It's unfortunate what happened yes, but HTC only feels responsibility to cover repairs that are related to faulty manufacturing...even though you can prove that it's not your fault the phone was stolen or damaged, those are both issues that only some type of insurance would cover, I'm sorry to say. Assurion is the company that provides harware insurance to most of the major carriers, but yes I think it's only offered on phones bought from/through the carrier itself....you would know if you had it because there'd be a small (~$10) charge on your bill each month for it.
What if I got a Square Trade warranty?
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What if I got a Square Trade warranty?
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Well sure if you had that on the phone then you should be just fine...their terms clearly say they cover immersion, so they shouldn't give you any hassle about it. Although, I do see that their fine print states "unlocking a cell phone after purchase will void the warranty"...so don't know if you might get a hassle for the custom ROM, or if they only care about carrier unlocking.
Now, if you don't have the Square Trade warranty yet and were thinking about purchasing it and then submitting this claim, they might have an exclusion period where you can't make a claim within the first x number of days after buying the warranty, if the phone isn't brand new when you purchase the coverage (that's not unheard of in the 3rd-party warranty business)
EDIT: Yes, they do have a 60-day exclusion period...anything happening in that period is considered to be "pre-existing". And, it looks like you have to purchase the coverage within the first 30 days after the auction that you bought it from.
Suggest you do the following:
1) Batteries are easily damaged by water and can become a silent fire hazard, so remove and dispose of the battery Leave the back cover off the phone.
2) Give the phone a very thorough bath in distilled water (no soap or anything) to remove any contaminants. Optionally, disassemble phone first.
3) Shake as much water as possible out of the phone
4) Wrap phone securely in paper towel
5) Place phone in a bowl of instant rice, and cover bowl with plastic wrap
6) Put bowl in a sunny place
7) 24 hrs after there is no more condensation on the plastic wrap, your phone is as dry as it ever is going to be
8) Put new battery in phone, replace cover, and charge for full charge cycle
With a little luck, your phone will be working as good as new.
Thanks. I will try above steps. I will keep you posted here.
So out of curiosity, I tried the phone again. It comes on for 3 minutes, then goes blank. (shuts off) While it is on, the phone itself gets really hot, as well as the battery when I remove it. What is this a sign of?
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So out of curiosity, I tried the phone again. It comes on for 3 minutes, then goes blank. (shuts off) While it is on, the phone itself gets really hot, as well as the battery when I remove it. What is this a sign of?
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Did you try following the advice where it said to replace the battery? You can get them dirt cheap on ebay if you havnt. I would try that first myself as that would save a lot of time AND money if thats all it is.
You also might be able to get a new battery from your carrier. I've heard of people walking in and saying hey I only get so many minutes out of my battery and they just give them a new one. I would go in NOT say anything about dropping your phone in the water and saying the battery only lasts three minutes, then show them how it turns off after. You may end up getting a free one.
Again thats assuming you bought it from your carrier and not direct from HTC. If you didnt.. ebay!
I finally got a different battery put in the phone. I also did a hard reset. The phone went thru the process of booting up, setting up phone for 1st time, etc...it stayed on for about 5 min. Then.....BLACK...BLANK screen. Now when I try to start it up, it will only last about 60 seconds.
Suggestions on what to do next? Thanks.
Time for a new phone!!
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Time for a new phone!!
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Yeah, it's time to throw in the towel on this one I'm afraid
EDIT: I don't see for sure that you followed steps 5-7 in datawrhsdoc's instructions above...did you? It may be past that point yet, but it's the only other thing that might have had any chance of helping you
I had already done the rice trick. Thanks for following up. dang this just pisses me off.
yeah, if you turned on the phone while the electronic components were wet, chances are something fried inside. time for a new phone.
and why would htc pay to repair this phone? warranty only covers manufacturer's defects.
on the positive side, you can find tp2's for about 250.00 right now.
So installing a zagg shield like I have done countless of times, spray shield lightly, install shield, squeegee out bubbles... Phone turned on and booted fine, and than the screen went crazy.
The water indicator at the bottom of the phone does show a slight water mark, so I am out of luck in that department... what's the best way to go about getting a new one? I know sprint does not cover water damage, but with the 7$ insurance can't you just pay a 50$ deductible?
Be careful around water with this thing, my Nexus one and Mytouch never had a issue when installing a shield or getting caught out in a slight rain drizzle.
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I think the insurance deductible for evo is $150. You can try returning it and say it was doa. They may not check it since you just got it.
Sorry to hear yours got water damaged. I just got the sprint insurance on my evo. But what you're saying is that sprint insurance doesn't cover water damage...correct?
If that's the case since I bought my evo off of ebay, I'm going to buy the squaretrade insurance also.i think they cover water damage.
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pirarre said:
Sorry to hear yours got water damaged. I just got the sprint insurance on my evo. But what you're saying is that sprint insurance doesn't cover water damage...correct?
If that's the case since I bought my evo off of ebay, I'm going to buy the squaretrade insurance also.i think they cover water damage.
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Insurance covers anything. Warranty does not cover water damage.
Guess I'll run by sprint tomorrow and see what they say....
I think the deductible is actually 100$, but... either way I'll find out tomorrow.
Still can't believe that slight amount of water did that though, I figured it would be sealed up tighter.
Did u squeegiethe water towards the earpieceor what? I don't see how this could happen......
TAKE OUT THE BATTERY NOW. Then put it and the battery in rice for 24 hours and then try it. If it doesn't work then you broke it by leaving the battery in thus far. You can go back and complain and they might give u another for free. Otherwise you have to pay the insurance.
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TAKE OUT THE BATTERY NOW. Then put it and the battery in rice for 24 hours and then try it. If it doesn't work then you broke it by leaving the battery in thus far. You can go back and complain and they might give u another for free. Otherwise you have to pay the insurance.
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Heh, that was the first thing I did... It's been in the rice ever sense.
Going to try it in the morning and see what happens. If it doesn't work I'll go to sprint and pay the 100$ something, and get a new one. Sucks though for sure.
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Heh, that was the first thing I did... It's been in the rice ever sense.
Going to try it in the morning and see what happens. If it doesn't work I'll go to sprint and pay the 100$ something, and get a new one. Sucks though for sure.
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Now I know I am not the only smart one in the world! jk
Where are the water damage indicators on the phone?
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Where are the water damage indicators on the phone?
Sent from my Sprint HTC Evo
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One on the battery and the other is on the bottom of the phone under the battery.
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One on the battery and the other is on the bottom of the phone under the battery.
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Sprint really took some liberties with the placement of the water damage indicator. It couldn't be any closer to the edge of the battery door without physically being outside the case itself. I managed to get a droplet of water on it already when I was applying my invisible shield so my warranty is essentially shot. Thank goodness I put TEP on immediately after purchasing the phone.
You are supposed to let your phone dry for 24 hrs (if not at least half that). Why would you power it up immediately after applying it is beyond me...
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One on the battery and the other is on the bottom of the phone under the battery.
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So the water sensors are those small checkered striped things?
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Sprint really took some liberties with the placement of the water damage indicator. It couldn't be any closer to the edge of the battery door without physically being outside the case itself. I managed to get a droplet of water on it already when I was applying my invisible shield so my warranty is essentially shot. Thank goodness I put TEP on immediately after purchasing the phone.
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You did that by putting the Zagg on? I ordered one of those half price on Monday. I've had them for my iPhones, iPads etc. But for some strange reason I'm having second thoughts about putting it on this phone.
Obviously something was done incorrectly here. The sticker on the bottom of the battery is not a water indicator...mine was red out of the box.
No, it wasn't dredge. It was crosshatched red & white, it looks semi-pinkish. When it gets wet, it's a DEEP red color, can't be ignored.
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No, it wasn't dredge. It was crosshatched red & white, it looks semi-pinkish. When it gets wet, it's a DEEP red color, can't be ignored.
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Ok I see now....yeah mine is pink and white checkered look. But when it get activated it gets even more red?
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i just noticed my sensor under battery is pink with red checkers...am i screwed
think with me for a moment, couldn't you cover the wet strip with a small paper cut out and then put some of the cut out self laminate over the whole strip? if these are that temperamental to water such as an invisible shield prep spray then this might be worth doing. ive never done it nore have i seen EVO's strip im just throwing ideas out there.
Zagg good for laptop and ipad type of things I had it on mi iphone and
last me two months or so had it on my hd2 same thing guess carrying it around in your hand make the product stretching or something corners where were perfect starts to peal that's on cellphones
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The other day I forgot to remove the evo out of my pockets and went swimming with it. It was submerged for a good 4 or 5 minutes and its been in a bag of rice for two days so far. The wetness indicator is pink on both battery and the device. Theres still some water in the lcd screen and its slowly drying little by little. However I tried to boot it up and its stuck on the "HTC EVO 4G" screen... I can only access the screen when you press vol down + power. Look like it needs to be replaced.
Couple questions that I have:
1. I have the $7 a month insurance option and I don't mind paying the $100 fee but do they cover water damage? Will they give me a new phone?
2. My phone is fully rooted with CM6 rom on there... are they going to find out? How can I fully wipe this out before I make the switch?
3. Do you know if the EVO are still out of stock/backordered at this moment? How long should I expect the new replacement?
Thanks in advance.
Covered
The asurion insurance certificate (that is what you have) says it covers liquid damage. I presume swimming leads to liquid damage.
My son's EVO was shattered in early July and it took about 10 days from start of claim until the replacement arrived.
I can't imagine that they would find out about the rooting. Even if they did, how can that explain why they should not cover the liquid damages. LOL
dude, if your paying the $7 insurance either way your stuck paying the $100 deductible so just report it stolen so you have an extra battery and back cover... just keep that bad boy for parts
bummer!
you are in luck thou.. anything accidental including water damage is covered.
Nobody cares about rooting that's just software which is re-written when the phone is refurbished (and yours is probably toast anyway).
My friend had one replaced and it took about 11 days or so...the supply is probably still low and demand high for these phone so it might be a bit of a wait
BTW when your submit the damaged phone to asurion, they do not want the battery.
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dude, if your paying the $7 insurance either way your stuck paying the $100 deductible so just report it stolen so you have an extra battery and back cover... just keep that bad boy for parts
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do I have to file a police report in order to do report it stolen?
Don't mess with insurance fraud. Even for a damaged phone I had to sign an affidavit that this is what happened. Just submit for water damage - you can add a battery AND charger for less than 15 bucks on eBay.
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Keep the battery. You don't have to send it to them. As for the back cover, I guess it sank in the river......
thanks. i will report it for water damage... but most likely i will receive a refurbished evo right?
Hi all,
So was very happy with my Nexus until I had the battery indicator/ charging issue noted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21029770#post21029770
So went down to Vodafone store (general ball ache as it is ~15 miles away, had to take morning off work, also they had no loaner phones!) they sent it off for repair getting me to sign to say if water damage I would have to pay.
So they have sent it off now I get a call saying the water damage indicators say it is a water damage issue. I have never got the phone wet or suffered any form of water damage. That being said it hasn't been in a waterproof bag its whole life.
I'm pretty pissed as they want £100 for repair, which I refuse to pay. I could repair it myself but I don't think I should have to as its only 6 months old. 2 questions really:
1) has anyone else had this issue with water indicators when no water damage?
2) Is there any way to argue that water damage isn't even a little bit of a factor here as it wasn't water damaged and is likely a physical issue with the actual USB slot?
I may well be buying an HTC one x as a friend said he had the same issue with his SII and I'm generally not all that impressed with Samsung build quality.
Cheers y'all
The water damage indicators is not very reliable. Demand that they provide other proof that the stickers. If water have damaged the USB port then it clearly should be visible proof of this on the port.
Also let them read this: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=23789 Samsung should be painfully aware of this issue and their flake USB port.
So you signed an agreement to pay the repair costs if there was water damage. The phone does have water damage and you refuse to pay? Interesting...
Unfortunately those indicators can change color just from having the phone in the bathroom while taking a shower.
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El Daddy said:
So you signed an agreement to pay the repair costs if there was water damage. The phone does have water damage and you refuse to pay? Interesting...
Unfortunately those indicators can change color just from having the phone in the bathroom while taking a shower.
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The steam can also cause actual water damage
Still, water indicators do tend to get set off all the time without having any actual damage done. They're very unreliable and are only present to give companies an easy way out of warranties as they're designed to go off very easily (your sweat can set them off if handled enough).
El Daddy said:
So you signed an agreement to pay the repair costs if there was water damage. The phone does have water damage and you refuse to pay? Interesting...
Unfortunately those indicators can change color just from having the phone in the bathroom while taking a shower.
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They won't take the phone to the repair centre unless you sign the repair agreement. I don't have to pay anything unless I want the phone fixed but I refuse to pay £100 for £5 worth of parts and a trained monkey jamming it in. Especially as the Samsung Repair Centre charges £40 for the same job.
I would happily pay if there had been an actual liquid damage incident but I refuse to be screwed over not sealing up my phone in a vacuum on a humid day.
All of this is on top of the fact that the I have had the phone for 6 months and it has broke due to shoddy build quality.
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They won't take the phone to the repair centre unless you sign the repair agreement. I don't have to pay anything unless I want the phone fixed but I refuse to pay £100 for £5 worth of parts and a trained monkey jamming it in. Especially as the Samsung Repair Centre charges £40 for the same job.
I would happily pay if there had been an actual liquid damage incident but I refuse to be screwed over not sealing up my phone in a vacuum on a humid day.
All of this is on top of the fact that the I have had the phone for 6 months and it has broke due to shoddy build quality.
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there is more than 1 indicator on every phone. there's usually 2, most of the time 3.
have them take pictures of all of them.
Hi ...all
My god what a day ...I. Finally was able to flash Franco kernel and a good 4.2 ROM ...after that I placed my phone in my pocket feeling real happy seeing that my nexus got the latest software ...placing my phone into my pocket wanting to revise before I sleep ...then all hell breaks loose ...my farking pants have a huge hole maybe bitten by a rat or something and I didn't know ..and my phone dropped onto the ground pretty damn hard ...and there's a prominent scratch at the bottom right hand of ny phone oh my goodness my heart cracked....i dont have a screen protector nor or cover sincr i cant afford one....is there a solution? How much will it cost to repair it? Its actually a rather small cosmetic issue but...mannnn ....is there a protector that can cover the front of my phone or anything? Please help
roughly ~$150 for the digitizer/screen combo if you do it yourself. Or leave it and get a cheap screen protector online or at a local shop
$10 screen protector with free shipping
http://www.amazon.com/Skinomi-TechSkin-Protector-Lifetime-Warranty/dp/B005OTKTMQ
garrr 150?? that's so darn expensive! does this kind of damage covered by warranty? well to be honest after the panic strike is over i realized the damage although is pretty obvious and visible i isn't too serious ...after taking sometime to cool down i realized i am lucky my internal hardware wasn't damage ...i think i will just get a cover to cover up the damage as much as i can
No damage is covered by warranty. Only HW/SW defects.
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No damage is covered by warranty. Only HW/SW defects.
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In fact if you send it into them with such damage, they will charge you for repairs at market cost (as quoted from a CS rep from Sammy)