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Report lost, keep phone?

Would the phone still function as a wifi device when you report it lost? If im going to pay $100 I much rather keep my current phone for wifi and testing out roms, its a rev 2 with tons of light leakage, some LCD pixel rainbow leakage near the top of the screen,a minor scratch on the screen, battery cover is warped and bent out of shape it barely stays on and theres a ding on the bottom right side.
Don't even think its worth trying to argue with radioshack that I should get a replacement under warranty instead of paying insurance $100 of my hard earned cash.
I can't stand dealing with brick n mortar employees.. they are so aggravating to negotiate with.
Also, in before Sprint employees call "FRAUD!" I think selling me a phone with so many major defects then trying to make an extra $100 off me to replace is more fraudulent.

I won't judge you!
Yes wifi will work fine.

lol, I just deleted my response to your thread in General. FYI, a mod can easily move threads around..
In response to your question:
Yes, your phone will still function as a wifi enabled device
The only possible problem would be it trying to run the Hands-Free-Activation but I think you're good if you leave it powered off for a day after you activate the new one. Also, you can avoid that possibility all together if you put CM on it. Sprint can't activate AOSP builds on their network. I've had to flash back to Sense builds 3 times to get phones switched around between my Sprint account and my Dad's.

Why doesn't everyone do this to have an extra wifi device? Oh, that is why they cost 600 bucks to buy outright.... that's right.
In your situation i see no problem and won't judge.
Everyone else who sees this thread and does it just because they want to browse porn on their couch is what aggravates me.

skydeaner said:
Why doesn't everyone do this to have an extra wifi device? Oh, that is why they cost 600 bucks to buy outright.... that's right.
In your situation i see no problem and won't judge.
Everyone else who sees this thread and does it just because they want to browse porn on their couch is what aggravates me.
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Agreed, the OP doesn't seem to be a crook. I think his logic is pretty sound but the only difference between him and someone doing this for fraudulent personal gain is intent..
I want to offer an opinion about the price point for these phones. Working in the heart of an international company (the third largest in our industry) I am of the opinion that the $600 price point has no relation to the people that commit fraud to get new phones for whatever reason. The price of the phone is $600 because that's what the brilliant business analysts at Sprint, HTC, or whatever consulting group they contracted told Sprint is the sweet spot between profitability and perceived value in the consumers mind, coupled with the subsidized price of $200 with a 24 mo contract. They could sell these phones for $300 and make a diminished profit, or they could sell them for $800 a pop but end up selling half as many.
The price points are built to take a predictable percentage of fraudulent claims in to account. I AM NOT ADVOCATING FRAUD!! I am only suggesting that if no one committed fraud and got free phones or kept "lost or stolen" replacements for WiFi enabled backups.. the price would still be $600. The difference is Sprint, HTC and Asurion would make a greater profit margin.
Again, I am NOT ADVOCATIN FRAUD. If you are a thief then you don't deserve to own an EVO. But I'm tired of seeing people drop the "you are the reason this is so expensive for me" line. It's just not true. It would be more accurate to say "people like you are why Dan Hesse's kid has to settle for a Gallardo when he really wanted a McLaren F1". I do not feel sorry for Dan's kids.. at all.

it likely has little to do with the price of the phone but it certainly has to do with the price you have to pay azurian for the replacement.
while you may not be selling it reporting it lost/stolen is still fraud(as it is not lost or stolen and you are reporting it that way specifically with the intent to keep the existing phone). i wont judge just saying fraud is fraud at least accept the facts.
I also wouldnt be posting your intent to fraud on a public forum but that's just me. chances are nothing will ever happen but if you are the one sucker they catch they can easily track the post back.

nebenezer said:
lol, I just deleted my response to your thread in General. FYI, a mod can easily move threads around..
In response to your question:
Yes, your phone will still function as a wifi enabled device
The only possible problem would be it trying to run the Hands-Free-Activation but I think you're good if you leave it powered off for a day after you activate the new one. Also, you can avoid that possibility all together if you put CM on it. Sprint can't activate AOSP builds on their network. I've had to flash back to Sense builds 3 times to get phones switched around between my Sprint account and my Dad's.
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awesome i love cm6 but cant use it cause it has no 4g but since my first evo will only be wifi it will be perfect, so I should flash cm6 back on then call the insurance and claim it lost?
edit: also turn off the phone untill I get my replacement a good idea too? pop the battery out?

crakerjaks said:
awesome i love cm6 but cant use it cause it has no 4g but since my first evo will only be wifi it will be perfect, so I should flash cm6 back on then call the insurance and claim it lost?
edit: also turn off the phone untill I get my replacement a good idea too? pop the battery out?
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Just put it in airplane mode and make sure GPS is off and I think you should be fine but pulling the battery would be the safest. Tell them its at the bottom of the lake. Then they would have zero reason to even attempt to try and do a locate on it or anything.

Take the battery out. If you can use a app to take pics from the internet I'm sure they can turn location on or find it with it turned off. My 2 cents.
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I hate Sprint/Asurion

So my phone was stolen on Friday. Saturday I filed the claim.
Says it will take 1-3 days. Wed after getting no updates I call, they say should ship that day. Today I call they say it is now 10-14 days.....call Sprint they say there is nothing they can do.
So basically:
1) Go 14 days without a phone
2) Buy a new phone out of my pocket (what was the purpose of insurance again?)
3) Accept a different model phone (what was the purpose of me buying my phone just 2 weeks ago?)

That sucks, but don't you have an old crappier phone you can use while you wait? I know if you get your phone from best buy and buy your insurance through them, they'll give you a loaner phone while you wait for your replacement.

Post like this makes me wonder about insurance. I would not get off the phone till someone helped me.
Did you have lookout or tp app on it? I think your insurance can try to ping it also. But it is probably to late. Still, I would try.
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japper88 said:
That sucks, but don't you have an old crappier phone you can use while you wait? I know if you get your phone from best buy and buy your insurance through them, they'll give you a loaner phone while you wait for your replacement.
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Thats only for damage, Best Buy doesn't cover lost and stolen. Hence why they have no deductible.

Its not a cell phone but I have magic jack for exactly this reason. Awesome device that just plain works and costs almost nothing.

newalker91 said:
The reason you cannot get one for two weeks is because they are completely sold out and backordered. Sales cannot even get their hands on these phones right now. There is no magic warehouse of high demand phones strictly for insurance reasons. The fact that they offered you a similar device until you can get another is proof that they are doing what they can to work with you on it. Let this simply be a lesson that one needs to be more careful with their expensive electronics. You wouldn't leave $600 in cash laying around anywhere someone could even remotely consider walking off with it, why would you do the same with the phone? If in your case it was something more severe such as house being broken into or you were physically assaulted and mugged, then law enforcement should be stepping in so you can receive proper restitution. If you left it in your car and it was broken into, then you should know in times like this to never leave so much as spare change in your car.
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Wow. Just wow.
First off, you're right about there being no magic warehouse of them, and that they're simply unavailable. That's the part that sucks. But you're making a lot of other unreasonable assumptions here. For one thing, they're not offering him another model until his becomes available, they're merely offering him another model. PERIOD. They will not then say, "oh, hey, we got these back in, so we're going to send you one and you send the loaner back." That's not them trying to assist, that's them giving up on a reasonable solution. I think working with a local store to provide a loaner until it's available would be the reasonable solution here, but they're clearly not set up for that, and that's a shame.
And nice "blame the victim" mentality. You sound like the jerks who tell rape victims that it was their fault for dressing that way. The guy got his phone stolen. No world is it his fault that it was stolen. Someone still broke the law and TOOK his property without permission. Period. There's no logic behind telling him that's HIS fault and HE should have known better. How exceptionally rude and thoughtless.
Besides, he did protect himself by buying insurance on his new phone. He did the right thing, knowing stuff happens and these problems occur. He's one of the responsible ones. And the insurance isn't paying off. That's the reality.

newalker91 said:
The reason you cannot get one for two weeks is because they are completely sold out and backordered. Sales cannot even get their hands on these phones right now. There is no magic warehouse of high demand phones strictly for insurance reasons. The fact that they offered you a similar device until you can get another is proof that they are doing what they can to work with you on it. Let this simply be a lesson that one needs to be more careful with their expensive electronics. You wouldn't leave $600 in cash laying around anywhere someone could even remotely consider walking off with it, why would you do the same with the phone? If in your case it was something more severe such as house being broken into or you were physically assaulted and mugged, then law enforcement should be stepping in so you can receive proper restitution. If you left it in your car and it was broken into, then you should know in times like this to never leave so much as spare change in your car.
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Nice troll!

newalker91 said:
Not trolling. It's called playing the devil's advocate. Working for Sprint, I see a lot of bs every day where people do stupid things and result in their phone being lost/stolen. Asurion often times will offer a temporary replacement unit until theirs is available if you escalate the issue. Never once did I say it doesn't suck that his phone was stolen, I'm merely pointing out that in the future this can all be alleviated by being more careful. Starting a thread to flame Sprint/Asurion will result in said person being questioned as to their reasoning for doing so.
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You're a pretty good troll, indeed. Where did you learn these skills?
Troll techniques uses so far:
1. Its OPs fault
2. tl;dr original post --> talk about other crap not relevant to post (like he was offered a loaner phone)
3. Call OP stupid, careless, other flame names
4. Lie blatantly.. about phone availability, policies, etc.
Need I go on?

Didn't know Sprint policies included telling people it's their own fault their phone was stolen. That's a pretty poor reflection on the company, I must say.

TurboFool said:
Didn't know Sprint policies included telling people it's their own fault their phone was stolen. That's a pretty poor reflection on the company, I must say.
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He's just a troll and hes playing a sprint employee on TV.. err.. internet.

LxMxFxD said:
He's just a troll and hes playing a sprint employee on TV.. err.. internet.
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Actually I completely agree with him. I was just as irritated when I read the OP's post. I've had the most top of the line phones since smart phones were on the market, and I've never once been even close to a situation where my phone could get stolen. He's lucky Asurion covers theft at all. Theft is one of the most preventable problems there is.

Lonewuhf said:
Actually I completely agree with him. I was just as irritated when I read the OP's post. I've had the most top of the line phones since smart phones were on the market, and I've never once been even close to a situation where my phone could get stolen. He's lucky Asurion covers theft at all. Theft is one of the most preventable problems there is.
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This. Very much this. The amount of irresponsibility i see every day as a tech is sickening. What is even more disheartening is the greater amount of entitlement.
On that i won't be elaborating, but needless to say I am sorry for the OP, but surely you can comprehend that there simply are little to no refurbs available. Refurbs have to come from somewhere, and that would be returned phones. The phone is little over half a month old, so its not hard to see that the amount of refurbs made and phones returned is creating a backorder limbo, with the rates being about equal. Also, exacerbating the problem is the fact that many are out of 14 days so issues dealing with defects no longer qualify for a new, but a refurb instead.
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How is this Sprints fault?
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I haven't had problems with misplacing my phone, but it does happen. Trust me I treat it like a brick of gold. Fiancée is always saying you care more about your phone, etc. Anyways isn't a replacement what why we pay insurance? If some dumbass hits your car you sure aren't gonna wait two weeks for a rental. Cut the man some slack, **** happens and it could happen to you. At least he's wanting another Epic Touch and not jumping on the iPhone bandwagon. I mean let's go wait in line for a phone that's already outdated...
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Lonewuhf said:
Actually I completely agree with him. I was just as irritated when I read the OP's post. I've had the most top of the line phones since smart phones were on the market, and I've never once been even close to a situation where my phone could get stolen. He's lucky Asurion covers theft at all. Theft is one of the most preventable problems there is.
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Stuff happens. You can't assume that every person who has something does it by ignorance. Now, let's assume I had it stolen because of my ignorance. I am STILL paying $8 a month to cover that ignorance, and it isn't being done.
I just had to go out and buy an Evo 4G in the mean time (obviously I could have bought something less expensive, it was $150, but still). So now I will wait for my Samsung to get to me and promptly cancel my insurance coverage. If I'm going to be SOL anyway paying $96 a year and $100 for the deductible and $150 for a replacement in the meantime I might as well just go without it.
And for the record, I have had more smartphones than I can count on my hands and possibly my toes and have never had one lost, stolen, or KIA due to user error before. But like I said at the beginning, stuff sometimes happens.

So for all those saying that if someone gets something stolen thy are irresponsible? So if I go to work and my house gets broken into its my fault? That is what insurance is for. They cover lost/stolen phones and that is why he pays the $8 bucks a month. I'm glad he told me how asurion works.
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newalker91 said:
People hate to take any blame for their own mistakes, and often times it is best that they hear something that they don't want to hear. As I've clearly stated, not every theft leaves the owner at fault, but often times it does. Phones are constantly left laying on counters at bars, in lunch rooms at work, on benches in locker rooms, etc. and then they are angry for having to pay the deductible. I may piss some individuals off when I ask them how it came about being stolen, but finding out actually is part of my job. Teaching people a little responsibility can go a long way considering they get a limited number of claims.
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your blatant disregard for anything as far as customer service is concerned is scary, now this has turned into a flame war, but oh well you brought it onto yourself. in no way shape or fashion is it your job to see why it was stolen , its your job to hear him say it was stolen ask for the police report and that's it.
So your telling me that if i go into a convenience store leave my phone on the counter for a second while my head is turned that its MY FAULT no its the thief who took it. I have had my car stolen and the police tried to grill me because i left the keys in the car and it running but yet it was my fault. in fact no it was not, because how many people leave their doors unlocked at night does that mean its their fault if they get their house broken into NO!
Now i can see that they may be back ordered and if asurion offered a different phone in the meantime then i would do it.

boominz28 said:
your blatant disregard for anything as far as customer service is concerned is scary, now this has turned into a flame war, but oh well you brought it onto yourself. in no way shape or fashion is it your job to see why it was stolen , its your job to hear him say it was stolen ask for the police report and that's it.
So your telling me that if i go into a convenience store leave my phone on the counter for a second while my head is turned that its MY FAULT no its the thief who took it. I have had my car stolen and the police tried to grill me because i left the keys in the car and it running but yet it was my fault. in fact no it was not, because how many people leave their doors unlocked at night does that mean its their fault if they get their house broken into NO!
Now i can see that they may be back ordered and if asurion offered a different phone in the meantime then i would do it.
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And I'm even saying ASSUME I was ignorant. I wasn't, but assume it. Because I agree a little bit you can prevent things from getting stolen, but the point still is they offer the insurance for lost/stolen property, so the ignorance on behalf of the person who loses or has something stolen is irrelevant.
And your last point is the best one. What I was looking for them to do was say "OK, we will send you a comparable device in the meantime, and then you have to send it back to us when yours is returned". If I'm paying the price I do I should not be left without a phone for two weeks.
Instead they told me, BUY a comparable device, use it, send it back in two weeks, and we will refund you.

gpgorbosjr said:
And I'm even saying ASSUME I was ignorant. I wasn't, but assume it. Because I agree a little bit you can prevent things from getting stolen, but the point still is they offer the insurance for lost/stolen property, so the ignorance on behalf of the person who loses or has something stolen is irrelevant.
And your last point is the best one. What I was looking for them to do was say "OK, we will send you a comparable device in the meantime, and then you have to send it back to us when yours is returned". If I'm paying the price I do I should not be left without a phone for two weeks.
Instead they told me, BUY a comparable device, use it, send it back in two weeks, and we will refund you.
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i would get that in writing , now i dont know your financial situation but comparable would mean another 600 buck phone, in my mind i would do it knowing i would get that money in cash in hand , but if they dont and say we will credit your account i wouldnt do it.

I don't think people are understanding the arguments here.
In the past I worked with security to try to help with campus crimes. Main problems being rape and thief. We could have easily have cut down on these problems if it weren't for one greater problem. Just plain stupidity. People ignore the safety advice we were giving them. Late class at night? No friend to walk home with? Call this number and we will come and get you. Guy or girl, it didn't matter. Follow these paths that we have clearly outlined for you while security is beefed up in other places, and still people choose to take short cuts that saved them maybe a few minutes and put their lives at risk. We did everything we could to prevent this from happening and it was as if they did everything they could to make something happened. Police have a negative stereotype and it frustrates me to no end when people ignore them when they are putting their lives on the line to save these people.
But lets get closer to the subject. I had my car broken into. Jacked up my dash taking out my radio. GF was driving it at the time and she forgot to lock my car door. I called the police and once they figured out my door wasn't locked they didn't do anything. It was my fault for not locking my doors and I had told my GF to make sure she locked them and she didn't. If my doors had been locked with my security alarm active my insurance and the police would have been a lot more helpful to me. And who knows, maybe the alarm would have scared them off and avoid the whole situation(broken window at the worse?).
I was personally shocked that the op didn't try to track their phone down. Lookout, plan b, he has insurance so the TEP app would have helped him to. I keep my phone on a belt holster. A few people have grabbed that holster when I was walking in crowded areas and without a quick reaction my phone would have been stolen. Before I had a holster one of my older smart devices fell from my pocket when I was playing games. None of the employees knew where it was. Used another customers smart phone to track mines down behind the employees desk and they just so happened to find it there. Last but not least, it is possible to be robbed and have your phone forcefully taken. You can't plan for every possible thing that could happen to your device. But you can get insurance and install at least one program to help track it down in the event that it is lost.
Any of could be where the OP is right now despite however much planning we do. I personally don't like the way the insurance is handling this. I would expect a loaner device during these times because it helps ease the pain of waiting. And of course the OP is mad at Sprint. They sold him the insurance that put him in this place. Wouldn't you be mad at me if I sold you something and it didn't work when you tried to use it? It should lower your trust in me despite the fact that I didn't have any control over what happened and it worked great for everyone I knew.

Sending my phone in for repair (updated daily)

Thought ill do this to help people that are thinking of sending their phone in for repair.
If its fast, if they do a good job etc..
I called up Samsung UK at 9am UK time 21/05/12 and told them what's wrong with it
This is what is wrong with it;
The screen pops out about quater of a MM on the bottom right
-The phone doesnt always charge when connected to the charger (this has happened about 5times within a month)
-The phone switches off randomly sometimes (This has happened about 3 times within a month)
-Sometimes when i remove the charging cable. On the screen it says charging/ disconnected continuously, If i wasnt aware of it, it would keep happening and burn my screen since the same image is on the screen none stop (This has happened 2 times within two weeks)
-If i shake my phone i hear a rattle sound on the upper back of the phone (This has been there since i bought the phone)
-The touch screen isnt as responsive from when i bought it (I have to take my finger off the screen and try again sometimes)
-WiFi and 3G stops working and i have to reboot my phone to be able to use it (This has happened countless of times)
Some of these faults only happen sometimes but they have happened more then once within a short period of time.
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Quite a lot right? lol. The women took it quite well haha.
They said the bag will be sent out within two working days with Royal Mail, and the repair will take from 5 to 10 working days. I have to send it with other information like proof of purchase contact details etc..
I asked what happens if they send it back and the same/ new faults are still there?
She said we will try and repair it again and if its no good on the 3rd try then they will send me a new one.
The call took about 20minutes. I was on hold for about 5minutes total.
So let the games begin.
ps I set this as my background for fun

LoL @ background!
hope they take care of it...

I got the package this morning around 11am while i was sleeping (i work nights) so i could of sent it today if some one woke me up -_-
Another thing.. the packaging they gave me is an utter joke.
Cheap bubble wrap thats about 2ft by 1ft and a plastic bag(envelope)
I used my own bubble wrap, cardboard, bubble wrap jiffy bag, some more bubble wrap then put it in the envelope with all the information they needed.
I think i over did it a bit but what can i say? Im a bit OCD on stuff like that lol.
I took lots of pictures of my phone so when they send it back to me.. if there is one mark that wasnt there before/ still has the same or new problems its going straight back.
I want to send it back three times because then they will send me a brand new one on the 3rd go haha.
I'm going to post it tomorrow morning.

Hope it works out for you.

You complained about a rattle when you shook your phone? Dude, you're nit picking.
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Smokeey said:
You complained about a rattle when you shook your phone? Dude, you're nit picking.
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I know. I'm trying to give them as many faults as possible to make it harder for them. I just want a new one cause the current one i have has problems.. i dont like repaired phones
My brother had an iphone4.. about 20days before the 1 year warranty ran out he went into the apple store and said the home button doesnt always work. The guy didnt even check it and gave him a brand new one.
I wish all companies had customer service like Apple... even if their products are meh.

RedBlueGreen said:
I know. I'm trying to give them as many faults as possible to make it harder for them. I just want a new one cause the current one i have has problems.. i dont like repaired phones
My brother had an iphone4.. about 20days before the 1 year warranty ran out he went into the apple store and said the home button doesnt always work. The guy didnt even check it and gave him a brand new one.
I wish all companies had customer service like Apple... even if their products are meh.
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lmao. You obviously don't know much about Apple customer service, it costs $99/year per device + $49/"incident". If you call 91 days after you purchase your device they won't even talk to you about your device/software or anything until you purchase the $99 service.
Every iPhone comes with one year of hardware repair coverage and 90 days of telephone technical support. AppleCare+ for iPhone extends repair coverage and technical support to two years from the original purchase date of your iPhone and adds coverage for up to two incidents of accidental damage due to handling, each subject to a $49 service fee.1 With AppleCare+ for iPhone, Apple experts can help troubleshoot issues over the phone or at an Apple Retail Store. They’ll answer questions about iOS, Apple iPhone apps such as Mail, iMessage, and Calendar, and help you solve interconnectivity issues between your iPhone and Mac or PC. And if your iPhone needs service under the plan, Apple technical support representatives can even set up a repair during the same call.
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http://store.apple.com/us/product/APP_IPHONE_PLUS_AUTO-110480

WiredPirate said:
lmao. You obviously don't know much about Apple customer service, it costs $99/year per device + $49/"incident". If you call 91 days after you purchase your device they won't even talk to you about your device/software or anything until you purchase the $99 service.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/APP_IPHONE_PLUS_AUTO-110480
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My mom called at day 96. If you act like you now nothing about this then they might let it slide. She got a new phone free somehow.
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WiredPirate said:
lmao. You obviously don't know much about Apple customer service, it costs $99/year per device + $49/"incident". If you call 91 days after you purchase your device they won't even talk to you about your device/software or anything until you purchase the $99 service.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/APP_IPHONE_PLUS_AUTO-110480
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I'm in the UK so its probably different over here.. no?
My brother didn't spend anything extra on the phone... just the phone itself.
Maybe you don't know much about Apples customer service?
I know Americans get f'ed a lot on phones.

RedBlueGreen said:
I know. I'm trying to give them as many faults as possible to make it harder for them. I just want a new one cause the current one i have has problems.. i dont like repaired phones
My brother had an iphone4.. about 20days before the 1 year warranty ran out he went into the apple store and said the home button doesnt always work. The guy didnt even check it and gave him a brand new one.
I wish all companies had customer service like Apple... even if their products are meh.
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I did something like this back when I had the 3GS. I waited until I decided I was buying the Nexus One, went to the Apple store and said the battery wasn't working correctly. The guy went in the back and came out with a brand new phone which went on Craigslist immediately after.
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Flippy125 said:
I did something like this back when I had the 3GS. I waited until I decided I was buying the Nexus One, went to the Apple store and said the battery wasn't working correctly. The guy went in the back and came out with a brand new phone which went on Craigslist immediately after.
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Its quite funny.
The best thing is that the iPhone doesnt devalue much.

Orange_furball said:
My mom called at day 96. If you act like you now nothing about this then they might let it slide. She got a new phone free somehow.
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RedBlueGreen said:
I'm in the UK so its probably different over here.. no?
My brother didn't spend anything extra on the phone... just the phone itself.
Maybe you don't know much about Apples customer service?
I know Americans get f'ed a lot on phones.
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One year hardware warrantee, 90 day tech support via phone. Which leaves much to be desired IMO. Almost all products offer 1yr hardware support, Android does not charge $99/yr to help you diagnose a problem over the phone. Imo saying Apple has superior customer service is so assbackards it borders on mentally challenged. As far as what I personally know about Apple and their CS, I've been an Apple device owner for years, same for Android. Both have good qualities, both have poor qualities. But I have no delusions of which are which. I'm not going off somebody else's experience, somebody who as far as I am concerned (since we don't have an XDA username for them) has no credibility on this forum. I posted the link and quote directly from Apples website, it's kind of hard to disagree with that, and if either of you would have actually read it you would have seen that hardware is warranted for 1yr.

WiredPirate said:
One year hardware warrantee, 90 day tech support via phone. Which leaves much to be desired IMO. Almost all products offer 1yr hardware support, Android does not charge $99/yr to help you diagnose a problem over the phone. Imo saying Apple has superior customer service is so assbackards it borders on mentally challenged. As far as what I personally know about Apple and their CS, I've been an Apple device owner for years, same for Android. Both have good qualities, both have poor qualities. But I have no delusions of which are which. I'm not going off somebody else's experience, somebody who as far as I am concerned (since we don't have an XDA username for them) has no credibility on this forum. I posted the link and quote directly from Apples website, it's kind of hard to disagree with that, and if either of you would have actually read it you would have seen that hardware is warranted for 1yr.
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Every iPhone comes with one year of hardware repair coverage
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The phone wasnt repaired. You go off of your experiance and ill go off of my own
Anyway.. lets ditch this Apple talk.. and stick with Samsung.

RedBlueGreen said:
The phone wasnt repaired. You go off of your experiance and ill go off of my own
Anyway.. lets ditch this Apple talk.. and stick with Samsung.
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You mean i go off my experience and you'll go off your brothers experience. You quoted me quoting Apple about the "repair" thing btw, just follow the link and see for yourself, that's what is written on Apples website.
Sure we will drop the Apple talk, just thinking about AppleCare pisses me off, don't know why anyone would prefer it.

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You mean i go off my experience and you'll go off your brothers experience. You quoted me quoting Apple about the "repair" thing btw, just follow the link and see for yourself, that's what is written on Apples website.
Sure we will drop the Apple talk, just thinking about AppleCare pisses me off, don't know why anyone would prefer it.
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well me and my dad was with him so its basically my own experiance too..
I dont see why anyone would buy extended warranty .. its a rip off.
btw just one hour and i can post my phone =O

That was my whole reasoning, I don't see why anyone would rather HAVE to pay for the extended, much less pay for phone support during the normal warrantee period. Hopefully you are more than satisfied with your new device, I will be asleep in an hour but I'll come check it out tomorrow.

Sent it!
I'm using my mums HTC wildfire for now lol

Curious to see how it goes - Samsung USA wouldn't accept my European GN to repair a broken screen...not even for money. I may have to send it back to Europe to get it fixed.

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Curious to see how it goes - Samsung USA wouldn't accept my European GN to repair a broken screen...not even for money. I may have to send it back to Europe to get it fixed.
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That sucks. How much does it cost to ship over to.. lets say the UK

Still haven't received it yet
I think it should come today or tomorrow.

Sprint customer service help

Hi all. I'm looking for some help with sprint as the title says. I love the E4GT but I have had like 6 replacements since November (when I bought the phone) and apparently sprint doesn't want to do anything but give me the same phone or the conquer, but obviously this isn't acceptable. So I have been on the phone with a store employee or a csr everyday for the past two weeks but no one seems to understand the trouble I have had to go through to get absolutely nowhere.
A little back ground: last year I had the Evo shift and I had various problems with the replacements but most notably one that I took to the store on the same day I got it and found out that the MB had corrosion. So Sprint, after much haggling, gave me an upgrade and I bought the E4GT. the issues with the E4GT have been updates bricking the phone, capacitive buttons activating without being pressed, overheating, and camera malfunctioning. Any advice on where to go next or what to do would be appreciated.
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Having worked in customer service. You are a complainer. Doesn't make you a bad guy its just who you are. You had the shift complained enough to get E4GT, now you want to keep complaining until you get another one. And when you go to a store and they will see your record. That's all they will see is that you are a complainer. It doesn't matter what carrier you go to. They still buy the same manufacturers phones for the most part. They aren't going to give you another free upgrade. Which is what you want. Let's just cut to the chase. It sounds like you want an Iphone. Instead of complaining to trying and get one. You sell your E4GT and buy the Iphone that you want.

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Having worked in customer service. You are a complainer. Doesn't make you a bad guy its just who you are. You had the shift complained enough to get E4GT, now you want to keep complaining until you get another one. And when you go to a store and they will see your record. That's all they will see is that you are a complainer. It doesn't matter what carrier you go to. They still buy the same manufacturers phones for the most part. They aren't going to give you another free upgrade. Which is what you want. Let's just cut to the chase. It sounds like you want an Iphone. Instead of complaining to trying and get one. You sell your E4GT and buy the Iphone that you want.
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What he said....only more nicely!

not trying to fight here but im a complainer because i have not had a phone for a month though im paying for service. and yes i have thought about an iphone because im not loyal to a manufacturer. also it becomes a problem when i can't even get an E4GT anymore because of having too many replacements within a year, while also not being given any good replacement option or anything. i would pay the etf but i dont think i should have to given my luck with their services.
someone else got any advice or input?

i would pay the etf but i dont think i should have to given my luck with their services.
someone else got any advice or input?
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I'm not arguing...just stating the obvious....the squeaky wheel get's oiled. Your not squeaking enough.
Be persistent, stand your ground, and if all else fails, email corporate.
Your posts are intelligent, which means you can craft a very concise email explaining your troubles. Explain exactly what you want and how you want it. Then if that doesn't work, write another....and then another. Complain louder and eventually your cry's will fall on sympathetic ears. Just know that there is no magic combination. I've been told that 3 replacements and you can choose a different device. Honestly, there's only one device better than our and that's the S3.
Good luck.
(note...what he said...only more nicely)

Ok well thanks for making my case.
If you haven't gotten service fora month call customer service for your credit. Seems easy enough? For having worked in customer service. I have little sympanty when you refuse to take replacement device. Ohh why because it won't work like the last one. That a very defeatest attitude. And its no wonder you aren't happy. NO phone is perfect. But I'm sure you know this. What you want is a free phone for nothing. YOU ARE LIMITING YOUR OPTIONS!!!!
1. Pay the ETF and leave. People with good credit have that option.
2. Sell the phone and buy another one. You can get a good 150-200 for it
3. Quit complaining
4. Try the conquer, maybe it will stop you from complaining. But I doubt it.
For the complaining that you have done at the sprint store, over the phone, and now coming here. You could have worked a part time temp job for a couple weeks to paid for another phone by now. What you want is a free phone go to another board if you want a way to scam them.

Call up Samsung for a sammich.
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I'm not arguing...just stating the obvious....the squeaky wheel get's oiled. Your not squeaking enough.
Be persistent, stand your ground, and if all else fails, email corporate.
Your posts are intelligent, which means you can craft a very concise email explaining your troubles. Explain exactly what you want and how you want it. Then if that doesn't work, write another....and then another. Complain louder and eventually your cry's will fall on sympathetic ears. Just know that there is no magic combination. I've been told that 3 replacements and you can choose a different device. Honestly, there's only one device better than our and that's the S3.
Good luck.
(note...what he said...only more nicely)
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Thanks for the advice Hotspace. I'm done feeding the troll.

ludrose said:
Thanks for the advice Hotspace. I'm done feeding the troll.
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No trolling, you wanted help. I didn't tell you what you wanted to hear.
My bad didn't know I had to play down to my competition here. Its unfortunate that out of all the other options I present. Complaining is the only one you see as a viable option. That's sad

i had an issue when i bricked my phone lol jk.. but naw man, you need to figure out what it is your doing to mess up your phones..we honestly have one of the best phones from sprint besides (like said already) the sgs3. how could u go through six devices lol. either way sounds like sprint already helped you once in letting you upgrade early and they wont do it again. so you had issues with your evo shift too? sounds fishy.. gotta love it when people dont tell the story right. how about buying a phone outright? then upgrade when its time like the rest of us
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I'm all for against corporate greed and the first to advocate for consumer's rights...but 6 phones with "problems." And you also had issues with prior phones. You sure you're not causing the issues? I was somewhat with you until you acknowledged that you did think about the Iphone. So maybe there is more to your story that you're letting us to believe. I believe you received fair advice on what you should do.
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ludrose said:
Hi all. I'm looking for some help with sprint as the title says. I love the E4GT but I have had like 6 replacements since November (when I bought the phone) and apparently sprint doesn't want to do anything but give me the same phone or the conquer, but obviously this isn't acceptable. So I have been on the phone with a store employee or a csr everyday for the past two weeks but no one seems to understand the trouble I have had to go through to get absolutely nowhere.
A little back ground: last year I had the Evo shift and I had various problems with the replacements but most notably one that I took to the store on the same day I got it and found out that the MB had corrosion. So Sprint, after much haggling, gave me an upgrade and I bought the E4GT. the issues with the E4GT have been updates bricking the phone, capacitive buttons activating without being pressed, overheating, and camera malfunctioning. Any advice on where to go next or what to do would be appreciated.
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you need to be transfer to the retention department explain your story. Try and get a record for all thr e tocket info and replacement records. Then ask to be xfered to the multipule devices departmentthey will help u out. Ask for an other device or a non referb replacement. Sprint CSRs are mostly under educated or badly trained . Its just fact they are horri fic. I am dealing with multipule people on the higer levels right now they email me and i have dorect numbers. If u need assitance PM me . I am in the middle of a huge deal right now where they are actually throttling data and they admit to the problem but claim they dont have control thet have multi sent devices too.

nickespi said:
you need to be transfer to the retention department explain your story. Try and get a record for all thr e tocket info and replacement records. Then ask to be xfered to the multipule devices departmentthey will help u out. Ask for an other device or a non referb replacement. Sprint CSRs are mostly under educated or badly trained . Its just fact they are horri fic. I am dealing with multipule people on the higer levels right now they email me and i have dorect numbers. If u need assitance PM me . I am in the middle of a huge deal right now where they are actually throttling data and they admit to the problem but claim they dont have control thet have multi sent devices too.
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lol cool story bro.. so your deep in a deal with sprint and have them admitting to throttling? whats your point exactly? retention dept is the dept that saves customers from cancelling service.. if its that hard for him to get a new phone im sure hed get the go ahead and cancel with etf or else they would have offered him a upgrade already.. and what is the multiple devices dept? a special team to deal with repeat offenders who every phone they have has issues somehow to obtain new phones?
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lol cool story bro.. so your deep in a deal with sprint and have them admitting to throttling? whats your point exactly? retention dept is the dept that saves customers from cancelling service.. if its that hard for him to get a new phone im sure hed get the go ahead and cancel with etf or else they would have offered him a upgrade already.. and what is the multiple devices dept? a special team to deal with repeat offenders who every phone they have has issues somehow to obtain new phones?
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Props on understanding what he wrote... wtf (I had to read it twice to make sense of it)

fenixjn said:
Props on understanding what he wrote... wtf (I had to read it twice to make sense of it)
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Yeah its pretty hard to type on my phone lol..sorry. But yes those are the correct steps about going to get a new phone. The retention department usally takes situations more serious and are usally more willing to direct your call properly. I guess a lot of peoe are use to prints ****ty customer service..u need to control the situation as much as u can or saddly u wont get much.
Sorry for the typos..lol my phone to is all jacked up theyre tying to send me a different phone now this is my thrid one! Always trwated perfect not a drop or sxratch 2 days old my i ad..heres to the referbs jk lol..
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And yes multi device department! Try it!

you need to be transfer to the retention department explain your story. Try and get a record for all thr e tocket info and replacement records. Then ask to be xfered to the multipule devices departmentthey will help u out. Ask for an other device or a non referb replacement. Sprint CSRs are mostly under educated or badly trained . Its just fact they are horri fic. I am dealing with multipule people on the higer levels right now they email me and i have dorect numbers. If u need assitance PM me . I am in the middle of a huge deal right now where they are actually throttling data and they admit to the problem but claim they dont have control thet have multi sent devices too.
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ludrose said:
Hi all. I'm looking for some help with sprint as the title says. I love the E4GT but I have had like 6 replacements since November (when I bought the phone) and apparently sprint doesn't want to do anything but give me the same phone or the conquer, but obviously this isn't acceptable. So I have been on the phone with a store employee or a csr everyday for the past two weeks but no one seems to understand the trouble I have had to go through to get absolutely nowhere.
A little back ground: last year I had the Evo shift and I had various problems with the replacements but most notably one that I took to the store on the same day I got it and found out that the MB had corrosion. So Sprint, after much haggling, gave me an upgrade and I bought the E4GT. the issues with the E4GT have been updates bricking the phone, capacitive buttons activating without being pressed, overheating, and camera malfunctioning. Any advice on where to go next or what to do would be appreciated.
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OK so I'm sure you'll accuse me of trolling like the other guy who gave reasonable advice... but you talk about the evo shift and its "replacements" (plural!) and how this got you a free upgrade, now you've gone through e4gt's at a rate of almost one a month since you've bought the damn thing. Newsflash dude, they boot loyal, on time paying customers of years for using too much roaming data, in the past few years they've eliminated all of the awesome legacy discounts that they used to offer via retentions (eg I used to get a 40% monthly statement credit, seriously) I've been on sprint for 12 years now, have 4 lines with them, and always pay my bill on time and they still just let me out of my contract and said take your business elsewhere after I complained about the loss of said discount (I ended up staying as sprint was still cheaper than vzw or att). Long story short you are costing them money, they don't care if you're happy and if you keep pushing them they'll end your contract. This may excite you but keep in mind sprint is consistently rated the highest in customer service, so good luck pulling this kind of crap on another carrier, I'll doubt you have much luck...
Furthermore how have you had multiple phones bricked by updates? And even if this is really the case only the ICS update could brick it unrecoverably... does not seem possible that you've had more than one e4gt brick taking the OTA to ICS, if that... capacitive button wonkyness is a known ICS bug, and not necessarily a hardware problem, you should have downgraded to GB or tried other ICS ROMs if it bothered you that much.... overheating also most likely has its source in a software problems (an app is causing it), not hardware.... also what do you mean by overheating? These things are passively cooled, if you use it a lot doing intensive things its going to get HOT.... lastly camera malfunctioning? Seriously? What does that even mean, also the camera is modular, I would imagine the sprint tech would have just replaced it as opposed to sending out a refurb if that was the actual issue.
To sum up this long rambling post the problem is not with the phone, its you... it is statistically impossible that you've somehow managed to get god knows how many "bad" evo shifts followed by 6 "bad" e4gt's... sprint isn't going to do anything for you nor do I think they should.... take the advice already offered and just buy a damn iPhone, clearly you can't differentiate between hardware and software issues, and apple will be happy to help you, they'll make a fortune off you as you'll probably be the most frequent genius bar customer ever
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OK so I'm sure you'll accuse me of trolling like the other guy who gave reasonable advice... but you talk about the evo shift and its "replacements" (plural!) and how this got you a free upgrade, now you've gone through e4gt's at a rate of almost one a month since you've bought the damn thing. Newsflash dude, they boot loyal, on time paying customers of years for using too much roaming data, in the past few years they've eliminated all of the awesome legacy discounts that they used to offer via retentions (eg I used to get a 40% monthly statement credit, seriously) I've been on sprint for 12 years now, have 4 lines with them, and always pay my bill on time and they still just let me out of my contract and said take your business elsewhere after I complained about the loss of said discount (I ended up staying as sprint was still cheaper than vzw or att). Long story short you are costing them money, they don't care if you're happy and if you keep pushing them they'll end your contract. This may excite you but keep in mind sprint is consistently rated the highest in customer service, so good luck pulling this kind of crap on another carrier, I'll doubt you have much luck...
Furthermore how have you had multiple phones bricked by updates? And even if this is really the case only the ICS update could brick it unrecoverably... does not seem possible that you've had more than one e4gt brick taking the OTA to ICS, if that... capacitive button wonkyness is a known ICS bug, and not necessarily a hardware problem, you should have downgraded to GB or tried other ICS ROMs if it bothered you that much.... overheating also most likely has its source in a software problems (an app is causing it), not hardware.... also what do you mean by overheating? These things are passively cooled, if you use it a lot doing intensive things its going to get HOT.... lastly camera malfunctioning? Seriously? What does that even mean, also the camera is modular, I would imagine the sprint tech would have just replaced it as opposed to sending out a refurb if that was the actual issue.
To sum up this long rambling post the problem is not with the phone, its you... it is statistically impossible that you've somehow managed to get god knows how many "bad" evo shifts followed by 6 "bad" e4gt's... sprint isn't going to do anything for you nor do I think they should.... take the advice already offered and just buy a damn iPhone, clearly you can't differentiate between hardware and software issues, and apple will be happy to help you, they'll make a fortune off you as you'll probably be the most frequent genius bar customer ever
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cool story bro. got no reason to lie here, if i did then i just be wasting mine and others' time.

ludrose said:
cool story bro. got no reason to lie here, if i did then i just be wasting mine and others' time.
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Maybe you just don't realize that its user error. Who wants to think of themselves as a nūb.
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What I want to know is how you were able to convince Sprint to upgrade you and give you a monthly supply of replacement phones. That is what I call negotiating!

[Q] Bricked S3 after failed ROM flash

Okay, so I previously have had Cyanogen Mod on my S3, last night I got a bit bored and said, what the heck, let's find something new, so then I found zMod, I downloaded it and was getting ready to flash it onto my phone, I then went into recovery and wiped my SD Card, factory reset, etc. Unfortunatly that wiped my .zip on my SD Card, so I used ADB t oget it back using adb push path\to\file /sdcard/ I then restarted my device and updated from zip, I then got some strange error like could not write, so I attempted to reboot my phone into recovery again, unfortunatly it never vibrated and the screen never turned on. Something strange though, if I plug it into my computer after turning it on (No vibration or screen on) it recognizes it as "QHSUSB_DLOAD"
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OS: Windows 8 x64
CWM: I think it was version 6.something
Thanks for any help you can provide me, I have had the phone for 3-4 months, if worst comes to worst should I attempt to do a warranty claim with Samsung or Sprint?

Sounds like you flashed an international ROM, no fix for that except a JTAG as far as I am aware.

Yeah Zmod is an international zip.
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So should I get someone to do a JTAG on my phone or would it be safer to attempt a warranty claim with Samsung?

RiotShielder said:
Okay, so I previously have had Cyanogen Mod on my S3, last night I got a bit bored and said, what the heck, let's find something new, so then I found zMod, I downloaded it and was getting ready to flash it onto my phone, I then went into recovery and wiped my SD Card, factory reset, etc. Unfortunatly that wiped my .zip on my SD Card, so I used ADB t oget it back using adb push path\to\file /sdcard/ I then restarted my device and updated from zip, I then got some strange error like could not write, so I attempted to reboot my phone into recovery again, unfortunatly it never vibrated and the screen never turned on. Something strange though, if I plug it into my computer after turning it on (No vibration or screen on) it recognizes it as "QHSUSB_DLOAD"
Specifics:
OS: Windows 8 x64
CWM: I think it was version 6.something
Thanks for any help you can provide me, I have had the phone for 3-4 months, if worst comes to worst should I attempt to do a warranty claim with Samsung or Sprint?
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I would just go to sprint its cheaper than JTAG and they have your phone ready for pickup the next day cost me $35 to get mine replaced unless of course u have the insurance then its free or you meet someone that will waive that fee
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jazz995756 said:
I would just go to sprint its cheaper than JTAG and they have your phone ready for pickup the next day cost me $35 to get mine replaced unless of course u have the insurance then its free or you meet someone that will waive that fee
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So do I just tell them upfront what I did or do I say it shut down during an update or something? Also does that require I have some kind of replacement plan, or is it for anyone with a phone with them. Thanks, I should be more careful with these things, I should of probably looked into it a bit more.

Ok, I'm gonna jump in here before this thread gets out of hand (seen it happen to the last 3 threads like this one)
First of, you've had the phone for a couple (3-4) months. Sprint's warranty covers only 15 days, if I recall correctly. Taking it back to the store will do nothing for you.
If you have TEP, then you can claim this on that, but you'll have to pay the $150 deductible. It's pricey but they'll get you a new phone the next day. A lot of people here on xda will recommend that. But there are also people on here that say that claims like this only drive up deductibles for the rest of us. I'll get into that later.
Last thing you can do is a JTAG repair. There are companies that do it for $60, but they take 3-5 business days. Just do a Google search for "JTAG repair S3" and you see it. It's the thing I would recommend, and I'll say why.
By flashing roms, mods, and kernels, we're voiding our warranty. No ifs ands or buts. We need to take responsibility for our mistakes and pay whatever price it is for them. By trying to return it to Sprint, you're basically pushing the cost of your mistake onto them, who then have to push it onto the rest of us. I remember when Sprint's TEP was only a $50 deductible for smartphones, not $150. This price increase is increased mostly due to claims like yours (and increased phone prices, but not as much as you'd think).
I think everyone here would say it's best to learn from our mistakes. In my opinion, the best way to do that is to actually pay the price for them. Pushing that price onto others just teaches us that we can avoid the consequences of our actions.
This is not a personal attack, just my thoughts on the matter. And in a few hours there will be much more people posting less polite responses than mine, so just a heads up.
Ok, end of rant.
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topherk said:
Ok, I'm gonna jump in here before this thread gets out of hand (seen it happen to the last 3 threads like this one)
First of, you've had the phone for a couple (3-4) months. Sprint's warranty covers only 15 days, if I recall correctly. Taking it back to the store will do nothing for you.
If you have TEP, then you can claim this on that, but you'll have to pay the $150 deductible. It's pricey but they'll get you a new phone the next day. A lot of people here on xda will recommend that. But there are also people on here that say that claims like this only drive up deductibles for the rest of us. I'll get into that later.
Last thing you can do is a JTAG repair. There are companies that do it for $60, but they take 3-5 business days. Just do a Google search for "JTAG repair S3" and you see it. It's the thing I would recommend, and I'll say why.
By flashing roms, mods, and kernels, we're voiding our warranty. No ifs ands or buts. We need to take responsibility for our mistakes and pay whatever price it is for them. By trying to return it to Sprint, you're basically pushing the cost of your mistake onto them, who then have to push it onto the rest of us. I remember when Sprint's TEP was only a $50 deductible for smartphones, not $150. This price increase is increased mostly due to claims like yours (and increased phone prices, but not as much as you'd think).
I think everyone here would say it's best to learn from our mistakes. In my opinion, the best way to do that is to actually pay the price for them. Pushing that price onto others just teaches us that we can avoid the consequences of our actions.
This is not a personal attack, just my thoughts on the matter. And in a few hours there will be much more people posting less polite responses than mine, so just a heads up.
Ok, end of rant.
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Yea, I understand what you mean, I'm just trying to see my options. Do you know of any good places to do the JTAG?

http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-jtag-brick-repair/
This place has gotten decent reviews here on xda. I haven't used them, but if you search xda for the name, you should see a number of threads with satisfied customers. From what I've seen, a fairly quick turnaround unless they're unusually busy.
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topherk said:
This place has gotten decent reviews here on xda. I haven't used them, but if you search xda for the name, you should see a number of threads with satisfied customers. From what I've seen, a fairly quick turnaround unless they're unusually busy.
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Okay, thanks. Just hopefully it will be a well-spent $60. My mom's gonna be pissed, but hopefully this will teach me to be more cautious when doing such delicate things

RiotShielder said:
So do I just tell them upfront what I did or do I say it shut down during an update or something? Also does that require I have some kind of replacement plan, or is it for anyone with a phone with them. Thanks, I should be more careful with these things, I should of probably looked into it a bit more.
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I would just tell them it shut off some representatives will just tell you no and you don't need any kind of protection plan if you pay the $35 fee but if you do have a protection plan it will be free
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topherk said:
Ok, I'm gonna jump in here before this thread gets out of hand (seen it happen to the last 3 threads like this one)
First of, you've had the phone for a couple (3-4) months. Sprint's warranty covers only 15 days, if I recall correctly. Taking it back to the store will do nothing for you.
If you have TEP, then you can claim this on that, but you'll have to pay the $150 deductible. It's pricey but they'll get you a new phone the next day. A lot of people here on xda will recommend that. But there are also people on here that say that claims like this only drive up deductibles for the rest of us. I'll get into that later.
Last thing you can do is a JTAG repair. There are companies that do it for $60, but they take 3-5 business days. Just do a Google search for "JTAG repair S3" and you see it. It's the thing I would recommend, and I'll say why.
By flashing roms, mods, and kernels, we're voiding our warranty. No ifs ands or buts. We need to take responsibility for our mistakes and pay whatever price it is for them. By trying to return it to Sprint, you're basically pushing the cost of your mistake onto them, who then have to push it onto the rest of us. I remember when Sprint's TEP was only a $50 deductible for smartphones, not $150. This price increase is increased mostly due to claims like yours (and increased phone prices, but not as much as you'd think).
I think everyone here would say it's best to learn from our mistakes. In my opinion, the best way to do that is to actually pay the price for them. Pushing that price onto others just teaches us that we can avoid the consequences of our actions.
This is not a personal attack, just my thoughts on the matter. And in a few hours there will be much more people posting less polite responses than mine, so just a heads up.
Ok, end of rant.
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First off the 15 day warranty will terminate your contract early and they take you phone away and that's not what were talking about anyway. Because sprint WILL replace your phone no matter how old it is you just have to pay $35 unless of course it has physical damage, cracked screen, broken charger port etc...
Second the TEP covers software and battery issues you ONLY need to pay 150 if its physically damaged and that's the ONLY reason you make a claim otherwise if you have TEP and bricked your phone all they need to do is verify the phone won't boot and they will replace it the next day. Many people are confused about these two things but I know this cuz I replaced my phone many times lol I have bad luck with sprint phones -_-
Third I would only recommend JTAG if sprint denied you or charging you more because it has physical damage and your willing to not have your phone for about a week. In my opinion that would be my last option but chances are sprint will replace your phone for $35 its theyre policy
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jazz995756 said:
I would just tell them it shut off some representatives will just tell you no and you don't need any kind of protection plan if you pay the $35 fee but if you do have a protection plan it will be free
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First off the 15 day warranty will terminate your contract early and they take you phone away and that's not what were talking about anyway. Because sprint WILL replace your phone no matter how old it is you just have to pay $35 unless of course it has physical damage, cracked screen, broken charger port etc...
Second the TEP covers software and battery issues you ONLY need to pay 150 if its physically damaged and that's the ONLY reason you make a claim otherwise if you have TEP and bricked your phone all they need to do is verify the phone won't boot and they will replace it the next day. Many people are confused about these two things but I know this cuz I replaced my phone many times lol I have bad luck with sprint phones -_-
Third I would only recommend JTAG if sprint denied you or charging you more because it has physical damage and your willing to not have your phone for about a week. In my opinion that would be my last option but chances are sprint will replace your phone for $35 its theyre policy
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Okay, would a visible scratch on the screen void it? It's a pretty small scratch, not a crack or anything.

topherk said:
Ok, I'm gonna jump in here before this thread gets out of hand (seen it happen to the last 3 threads like this one)
First of, you've had the phone for a couple (3-4) months. Sprint's warranty covers only 15 days, if I recall correctly. Taking it back to the store will do nothing for you.
If you have TEP, then you can claim this on that, but you'll have to pay the $150 deductible. It's pricey but they'll get you a new phone the next day. A lot of people here on xda will recommend that. But there are also people on here that say that claims like this only drive up deductibles for the rest of us. I'll get into that later.
Last thing you can do is a JTAG repair. There are companies that do it for $60, but they take 3-5 business days. Just do a Google search for "JTAG repair S3" and you see it. It's the thing I would recommend, and I'll say why.
By flashing roms, mods, and kernels, we're voiding our warranty. No ifs ands or buts. We need to take responsibility for our mistakes and pay whatever price it is for them. By trying to return it to Sprint, you're basically pushing the cost of your mistake onto them, who then have to push it onto the rest of us. I remember when Sprint's TEP was only a $50 deductible for smartphones, not $150. This price increase is increased mostly due to claims like yours (and increased phone prices, but not as much as you'd think).
I think everyone here would say it's best to learn from our mistakes. In my opinion, the best way to do that is to actually pay the price for them. Pushing that price onto others just teaches us that we can avoid the consequences of our actions.
This is not a personal attack, just my thoughts on the matter. And in a few hours there will be much more people posting less polite responses than mine, so just a heads up.
Ok, end of rant.
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Much more elegant and polite than I would have put it. I'm seeing way to many of these threads as of late. Maybe this will be the first person to take responsibility for their actions............
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I'm not blaming the dev of zMod in any way, as I should of verified it worked with my phone first; but should he not of put something like "This is for xxx phones only" just to help prevent this happening?
I realized it was posted in the international phone version forums, but I would think they would point it out again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136706

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Okay, would a visible scratch on the screen void it? It's a pretty small scratch, not a crack or anything.
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I highly doubt a scratch will do anything just as long as its not a crack I say your good to go
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I'm not blaming the dev of zMod in any way, as I should of verified it worked with my phone first; but should he not of put something like "This is for xxx phones only" just to help prevent this happening?
I realized it was posted in the international phone version forums, but I would think they would point it out again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136706
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Why would they point out that a rom in the international forum is for an international device? I'm pretty sure the rom zip had the device number listed in the name.
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Why would they point out that a rom in the international forum is for an international device? I'm pretty sure the rom zip had the device number listed in the name.
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It actually didn't, all it says is V1, and I am just saying that it would help for people who got there via Google and such, anyway I'm going to see what I can do with it tomorrow, hopefully everything goes smoothly

RiotShielder said:
I'm not blaming the dev of zMod in any way, as I should of verified it worked with my phone first; but should he not of put something like "This is for xxx phones only" just to help prevent this happening?
I realized it was posted in the international phone version forums, but I would think they would point it out again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136706
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From reading this thread I understand your young. But things are written for a reason. Learn a valuable lesson if something is in the Sprint Development section it's for Sprint, if it's in the Verizon Development section it's for Verizon products if it's in the International section it's for International devices.
That's why there are different sections on xda for different devices, different manufacturer and different carriers. If you would have read a little more there are usually 4 or 5 of these threads a week where someone bricked their phone flashing an international rom but had no problem finding the right section when they broke it.
I'm pretty sure this thread will be locked soon enough. But welcome to flashing 101, rule #1 if your on a Sprint variant stick to the threads that say Sprint Development.
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edfunkycold said:
From reading this thread I understand your young. But things are written for a reason. Learn a valuable lesson if something is in the Sprint Development section it's for Sprint, if it's in the Verizon Development section it's for Verizon products if it's in the International section it's for International devices.
That's why there are different sections on xda for different devices, different manufacturer and different carriers. If you would have read a little more there are usually 4 or 5 of these threads a week where someone bricked their phone flashing an international rom but had no problem finding the right section when they broke it.
I'm pretty sure this thread will be locked soon enough. But welcome to flashing 101, rule #1 if your on a Sprint variant stick to the threads that say Sprint Development.
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Actually I found zMod from CNet, I didn't notice that it was in the international forum until after I had posted this topic.