Okay, so I previously have had Cyanogen Mod on my S3, last night I got a bit bored and said, what the heck, let's find something new, so then I found zMod, I downloaded it and was getting ready to flash it onto my phone, I then went into recovery and wiped my SD Card, factory reset, etc. Unfortunatly that wiped my .zip on my SD Card, so I used ADB t oget it back using adb push path\to\file /sdcard/ I then restarted my device and updated from zip, I then got some strange error like could not write, so I attempted to reboot my phone into recovery again, unfortunatly it never vibrated and the screen never turned on. Something strange though, if I plug it into my computer after turning it on (No vibration or screen on) it recognizes it as "QHSUSB_DLOAD"
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OS: Windows 8 x64
CWM: I think it was version 6.something
Thanks for any help you can provide me, I have had the phone for 3-4 months, if worst comes to worst should I attempt to do a warranty claim with Samsung or Sprint?
Sounds like you flashed an international ROM, no fix for that except a JTAG as far as I am aware.
Yeah Zmod is an international zip.
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So should I get someone to do a JTAG on my phone or would it be safer to attempt a warranty claim with Samsung?
RiotShielder said:
Okay, so I previously have had Cyanogen Mod on my S3, last night I got a bit bored and said, what the heck, let's find something new, so then I found zMod, I downloaded it and was getting ready to flash it onto my phone, I then went into recovery and wiped my SD Card, factory reset, etc. Unfortunatly that wiped my .zip on my SD Card, so I used ADB t oget it back using adb push path\to\file /sdcard/ I then restarted my device and updated from zip, I then got some strange error like could not write, so I attempted to reboot my phone into recovery again, unfortunatly it never vibrated and the screen never turned on. Something strange though, if I plug it into my computer after turning it on (No vibration or screen on) it recognizes it as "QHSUSB_DLOAD"
Specifics:
OS: Windows 8 x64
CWM: I think it was version 6.something
Thanks for any help you can provide me, I have had the phone for 3-4 months, if worst comes to worst should I attempt to do a warranty claim with Samsung or Sprint?
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I would just go to sprint its cheaper than JTAG and they have your phone ready for pickup the next day cost me $35 to get mine replaced unless of course u have the insurance then its free or you meet someone that will waive that fee
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I would just go to sprint its cheaper than JTAG and they have your phone ready for pickup the next day cost me $35 to get mine replaced unless of course u have the insurance then its free or you meet someone that will waive that fee
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So do I just tell them upfront what I did or do I say it shut down during an update or something? Also does that require I have some kind of replacement plan, or is it for anyone with a phone with them. Thanks, I should be more careful with these things, I should of probably looked into it a bit more.
Ok, I'm gonna jump in here before this thread gets out of hand (seen it happen to the last 3 threads like this one)
First of, you've had the phone for a couple (3-4) months. Sprint's warranty covers only 15 days, if I recall correctly. Taking it back to the store will do nothing for you.
If you have TEP, then you can claim this on that, but you'll have to pay the $150 deductible. It's pricey but they'll get you a new phone the next day. A lot of people here on xda will recommend that. But there are also people on here that say that claims like this only drive up deductibles for the rest of us. I'll get into that later.
Last thing you can do is a JTAG repair. There are companies that do it for $60, but they take 3-5 business days. Just do a Google search for "JTAG repair S3" and you see it. It's the thing I would recommend, and I'll say why.
By flashing roms, mods, and kernels, we're voiding our warranty. No ifs ands or buts. We need to take responsibility for our mistakes and pay whatever price it is for them. By trying to return it to Sprint, you're basically pushing the cost of your mistake onto them, who then have to push it onto the rest of us. I remember when Sprint's TEP was only a $50 deductible for smartphones, not $150. This price increase is increased mostly due to claims like yours (and increased phone prices, but not as much as you'd think).
I think everyone here would say it's best to learn from our mistakes. In my opinion, the best way to do that is to actually pay the price for them. Pushing that price onto others just teaches us that we can avoid the consequences of our actions.
This is not a personal attack, just my thoughts on the matter. And in a few hours there will be much more people posting less polite responses than mine, so just a heads up.
Ok, end of rant.
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topherk said:
Ok, I'm gonna jump in here before this thread gets out of hand (seen it happen to the last 3 threads like this one)
First of, you've had the phone for a couple (3-4) months. Sprint's warranty covers only 15 days, if I recall correctly. Taking it back to the store will do nothing for you.
If you have TEP, then you can claim this on that, but you'll have to pay the $150 deductible. It's pricey but they'll get you a new phone the next day. A lot of people here on xda will recommend that. But there are also people on here that say that claims like this only drive up deductibles for the rest of us. I'll get into that later.
Last thing you can do is a JTAG repair. There are companies that do it for $60, but they take 3-5 business days. Just do a Google search for "JTAG repair S3" and you see it. It's the thing I would recommend, and I'll say why.
By flashing roms, mods, and kernels, we're voiding our warranty. No ifs ands or buts. We need to take responsibility for our mistakes and pay whatever price it is for them. By trying to return it to Sprint, you're basically pushing the cost of your mistake onto them, who then have to push it onto the rest of us. I remember when Sprint's TEP was only a $50 deductible for smartphones, not $150. This price increase is increased mostly due to claims like yours (and increased phone prices, but not as much as you'd think).
I think everyone here would say it's best to learn from our mistakes. In my opinion, the best way to do that is to actually pay the price for them. Pushing that price onto others just teaches us that we can avoid the consequences of our actions.
This is not a personal attack, just my thoughts on the matter. And in a few hours there will be much more people posting less polite responses than mine, so just a heads up.
Ok, end of rant.
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Yea, I understand what you mean, I'm just trying to see my options. Do you know of any good places to do the JTAG?
http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-jtag-brick-repair/
This place has gotten decent reviews here on xda. I haven't used them, but if you search xda for the name, you should see a number of threads with satisfied customers. From what I've seen, a fairly quick turnaround unless they're unusually busy.
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This place has gotten decent reviews here on xda. I haven't used them, but if you search xda for the name, you should see a number of threads with satisfied customers. From what I've seen, a fairly quick turnaround unless they're unusually busy.
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Okay, thanks. Just hopefully it will be a well-spent $60. My mom's gonna be pissed, but hopefully this will teach me to be more cautious when doing such delicate things
RiotShielder said:
So do I just tell them upfront what I did or do I say it shut down during an update or something? Also does that require I have some kind of replacement plan, or is it for anyone with a phone with them. Thanks, I should be more careful with these things, I should of probably looked into it a bit more.
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I would just tell them it shut off some representatives will just tell you no and you don't need any kind of protection plan if you pay the $35 fee but if you do have a protection plan it will be free
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topherk said:
Ok, I'm gonna jump in here before this thread gets out of hand (seen it happen to the last 3 threads like this one)
First of, you've had the phone for a couple (3-4) months. Sprint's warranty covers only 15 days, if I recall correctly. Taking it back to the store will do nothing for you.
If you have TEP, then you can claim this on that, but you'll have to pay the $150 deductible. It's pricey but they'll get you a new phone the next day. A lot of people here on xda will recommend that. But there are also people on here that say that claims like this only drive up deductibles for the rest of us. I'll get into that later.
Last thing you can do is a JTAG repair. There are companies that do it for $60, but they take 3-5 business days. Just do a Google search for "JTAG repair S3" and you see it. It's the thing I would recommend, and I'll say why.
By flashing roms, mods, and kernels, we're voiding our warranty. No ifs ands or buts. We need to take responsibility for our mistakes and pay whatever price it is for them. By trying to return it to Sprint, you're basically pushing the cost of your mistake onto them, who then have to push it onto the rest of us. I remember when Sprint's TEP was only a $50 deductible for smartphones, not $150. This price increase is increased mostly due to claims like yours (and increased phone prices, but not as much as you'd think).
I think everyone here would say it's best to learn from our mistakes. In my opinion, the best way to do that is to actually pay the price for them. Pushing that price onto others just teaches us that we can avoid the consequences of our actions.
This is not a personal attack, just my thoughts on the matter. And in a few hours there will be much more people posting less polite responses than mine, so just a heads up.
Ok, end of rant.
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First off the 15 day warranty will terminate your contract early and they take you phone away and that's not what were talking about anyway. Because sprint WILL replace your phone no matter how old it is you just have to pay $35 unless of course it has physical damage, cracked screen, broken charger port etc...
Second the TEP covers software and battery issues you ONLY need to pay 150 if its physically damaged and that's the ONLY reason you make a claim otherwise if you have TEP and bricked your phone all they need to do is verify the phone won't boot and they will replace it the next day. Many people are confused about these two things but I know this cuz I replaced my phone many times lol I have bad luck with sprint phones -_-
Third I would only recommend JTAG if sprint denied you or charging you more because it has physical damage and your willing to not have your phone for about a week. In my opinion that would be my last option but chances are sprint will replace your phone for $35 its theyre policy
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jazz995756 said:
I would just tell them it shut off some representatives will just tell you no and you don't need any kind of protection plan if you pay the $35 fee but if you do have a protection plan it will be free
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First off the 15 day warranty will terminate your contract early and they take you phone away and that's not what were talking about anyway. Because sprint WILL replace your phone no matter how old it is you just have to pay $35 unless of course it has physical damage, cracked screen, broken charger port etc...
Second the TEP covers software and battery issues you ONLY need to pay 150 if its physically damaged and that's the ONLY reason you make a claim otherwise if you have TEP and bricked your phone all they need to do is verify the phone won't boot and they will replace it the next day. Many people are confused about these two things but I know this cuz I replaced my phone many times lol I have bad luck with sprint phones -_-
Third I would only recommend JTAG if sprint denied you or charging you more because it has physical damage and your willing to not have your phone for about a week. In my opinion that would be my last option but chances are sprint will replace your phone for $35 its theyre policy
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Okay, would a visible scratch on the screen void it? It's a pretty small scratch, not a crack or anything.
topherk said:
Ok, I'm gonna jump in here before this thread gets out of hand (seen it happen to the last 3 threads like this one)
First of, you've had the phone for a couple (3-4) months. Sprint's warranty covers only 15 days, if I recall correctly. Taking it back to the store will do nothing for you.
If you have TEP, then you can claim this on that, but you'll have to pay the $150 deductible. It's pricey but they'll get you a new phone the next day. A lot of people here on xda will recommend that. But there are also people on here that say that claims like this only drive up deductibles for the rest of us. I'll get into that later.
Last thing you can do is a JTAG repair. There are companies that do it for $60, but they take 3-5 business days. Just do a Google search for "JTAG repair S3" and you see it. It's the thing I would recommend, and I'll say why.
By flashing roms, mods, and kernels, we're voiding our warranty. No ifs ands or buts. We need to take responsibility for our mistakes and pay whatever price it is for them. By trying to return it to Sprint, you're basically pushing the cost of your mistake onto them, who then have to push it onto the rest of us. I remember when Sprint's TEP was only a $50 deductible for smartphones, not $150. This price increase is increased mostly due to claims like yours (and increased phone prices, but not as much as you'd think).
I think everyone here would say it's best to learn from our mistakes. In my opinion, the best way to do that is to actually pay the price for them. Pushing that price onto others just teaches us that we can avoid the consequences of our actions.
This is not a personal attack, just my thoughts on the matter. And in a few hours there will be much more people posting less polite responses than mine, so just a heads up.
Ok, end of rant.
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Much more elegant and polite than I would have put it. I'm seeing way to many of these threads as of late. Maybe this will be the first person to take responsibility for their actions............
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I'm not blaming the dev of zMod in any way, as I should of verified it worked with my phone first; but should he not of put something like "This is for xxx phones only" just to help prevent this happening?
I realized it was posted in the international phone version forums, but I would think they would point it out again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136706
RiotShielder said:
Okay, would a visible scratch on the screen void it? It's a pretty small scratch, not a crack or anything.
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I highly doubt a scratch will do anything just as long as its not a crack I say your good to go
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RiotShielder said:
I'm not blaming the dev of zMod in any way, as I should of verified it worked with my phone first; but should he not of put something like "This is for xxx phones only" just to help prevent this happening?
I realized it was posted in the international phone version forums, but I would think they would point it out again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136706
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Why would they point out that a rom in the international forum is for an international device? I'm pretty sure the rom zip had the device number listed in the name.
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Why would they point out that a rom in the international forum is for an international device? I'm pretty sure the rom zip had the device number listed in the name.
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It actually didn't, all it says is V1, and I am just saying that it would help for people who got there via Google and such, anyway I'm going to see what I can do with it tomorrow, hopefully everything goes smoothly
RiotShielder said:
I'm not blaming the dev of zMod in any way, as I should of verified it worked with my phone first; but should he not of put something like "This is for xxx phones only" just to help prevent this happening?
I realized it was posted in the international phone version forums, but I would think they would point it out again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136706
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From reading this thread I understand your young. But things are written for a reason. Learn a valuable lesson if something is in the Sprint Development section it's for Sprint, if it's in the Verizon Development section it's for Verizon products if it's in the International section it's for International devices.
That's why there are different sections on xda for different devices, different manufacturer and different carriers. If you would have read a little more there are usually 4 or 5 of these threads a week where someone bricked their phone flashing an international rom but had no problem finding the right section when they broke it.
I'm pretty sure this thread will be locked soon enough. But welcome to flashing 101, rule #1 if your on a Sprint variant stick to the threads that say Sprint Development.
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edfunkycold said:
From reading this thread I understand your young. But things are written for a reason. Learn a valuable lesson if something is in the Sprint Development section it's for Sprint, if it's in the Verizon Development section it's for Verizon products if it's in the International section it's for International devices.
That's why there are different sections on xda for different devices, different manufacturer and different carriers. If you would have read a little more there are usually 4 or 5 of these threads a week where someone bricked their phone flashing an international rom but had no problem finding the right section when they broke it.
I'm pretty sure this thread will be locked soon enough. But welcome to flashing 101, rule #1 if your on a Sprint variant stick to the threads that say Sprint Development.
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Actually I found zMod from CNet, I didn't notice that it was in the international forum until after I had posted this topic.
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The post I'm going to quote below got me wondering. I'm making a new thread here because the other thread was posted in development, and at worst it will be locked and at best merged with the other thread the OP made in Q&A. (EDIT - Looks like it was even worse ... the thread was deleted). So ...
newalker91 said:
Just so you guys are aware, many service centers are going to be adopting a stricter interpretation of the Sprint policies in the near future. I've warned about this, but no one likes to listen.
Class 3 device issue includes total device failure in which the device is unable to function without the replacement of the motherboard. This will now include all devices unable to power on after refurbishing, bricked or not bricked. You will be paying a deductible.
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I'm curious. What percentage of E4GTs that have been brought into you over the past couple of months, that appear to be full hardware failures (won't boot into DL mode or recovery, or anything else), that only "mysteriously" show a blue light when powered on, do you guys suspect are bricks related to flashing in custom recovery on an ICS kernel?
The above makes me wonder if Sprint has seen a large increase in warranty exchanges over the past couple of months on E4GTs (gee I wonder why) thus driving the need to adjust their service policy? Maybe it's something that's been in the works for awhile in an attempt to keep profit margins up, but I'm curious if this phone may have been a catalyst to crack down on full exchanges.
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At my store, we've only seen a few. Each of which they claim to have received a software update (when the most recent to have been pushed was months ago) and only the blue light would power up. The pattern continues on with Motorola Photons as well with the white light when plugged into power and Failed to boot 01, and Nexus S 4G with the unlock symbol and frozen at splash. They claimed to have been using it on a car charger and it just stopped working. All of our customers to bring these issues in so far have been young males (age 16-30). Would be one thing if it were like this only at my current location, but it carries back to the last year I spent at my previous job as well with the same types of excuses and category of customers.
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People just are being lazy and not reading everything before they flash. The outcome is going to be bad for all of us, including the non-lazy. It's sad that it comes down to this. This is exactly why Sprint doesn't allow early upgrades anymore, because people abuse it by selling the new phone and the complain a few months later wanting more.
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I highly doubt sprint pays any more then $199 per device. If you can prove otherwise please do.
lafester said:
I highly doubt sprint pays any more then $199 per device. If you can prove otherwise please do.
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Do you seriously think Apple sells the iPhone to carriers for $199? Not a chance, and the same applies to Android manufacturers. From what I've read, carriers pay around $500 per smartphone, so have about $300 to make up over the 2 year contract term. A little less for Verizon, because they can get away with charging $299 for some devices.
There's a reason they call it a "subsidy".
Edit - Here's a decent article on the subject with a few numbers ... http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=18672&news=Apple+iPhone+ATT+Verizon+Sprint
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At my store, we've only seen a few.
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Can you put any kind of percentage on it? Like 1 in 10, or 1 in 50? I'm curious how often these devices completely fail on their own, and how often it's caused by firmware flashing.
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I highly doubt sprint pays any more then $199 per device. If you can prove otherwise please do.
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Companies like sprint do get phones for a good price from the manufacturer. But you have to look at it from the provider's point of view... Sprint is not making a profit from the time that you first sign a contract. That's why we signed a contract, we agreed to be a customer for the length of the contract in order to get a good price. That's why you get charged for an Early Termination Fee for breaking that contract early.
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I have paid for TEP since my HTC Evo, have not once bricked or even brought any phone back to sprint. It's sad that so many are bricking and not taking responsibility and even worse is when I hear stories of successful returns even without insurance.
Couldn't agree more. If you brick it, its your own fault. You should just pay the 100$ deductible and call it even. If you want to avoid it then either read read and read some more or don't mess with it in the first place. The only people I am not talking about are the devs who found the problems out the hard way. But when they say don't do somehing and you do it because you couldn't be bothered to read a paragraph you should pay up.
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Sorry to say it, but why not just make TEP mandatory for any subsidized smartphone. Maybe a once per device life-cycle brick swap, after that its deductable. If its a bad OTA, Sprint will know and can make exceptions, but other than that, it would be a good idea to just assume everyone roots, and work with it. We can help by not flaming people asking questions regarding flashing when its known that some methods are very risky.
I've mostly held my tongue when seeing people talking about bricking their phones and then lying to Sprint so they can get a replacement at reduced/no cost. The few times I did speak up (as well as a few others) there were responses dogging people for their moral superiority, one person even suggested if I bricked my phone I'd do the same thing, to which I replied I most certainly would not.
I don't judge people. You do what your conscience allows you to live with, as do I. But I will say that I would be pissed if I ever took a truly borked (not by my hand) phone into Sprint and got major hassle because they might assume I'm just one more person futzing up my phone and trying to get a new one.
No one wants to accept their actions may have long term consequences but the truth is, they do. For every bricked phone they've been duped into replacing there's a price to pay and that price is likely going to be spread out to all of us in the form of higher phone prices (if they don't get rid of subsidy pricing altogether), higher insurance rates and possibly even fewer service centers due to cutbacks within the company.
So maybe just be a little extra careful before flashing that next leak or ROM. Read the instructions, read them again, ask questions before flashing and then take responsibility for what ultimately happens.
Okay, I suppose I'll get off my high horse now.
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If you're going to start hurting your own exchange rate and cost Sprint extra money on DBR equipment just so you can make your commission, then there's a lot of failure going on in your location. Your front office is failing to properly analyze the situation and the back office isn't following policy. Do not create the ticket until you know exactly what the situation is, and then you won't be in a bind when you realize you can't fix it and need to violate policy to get a good survey.
As for the percentage of bricked devices we see, I'd say 1 in 100 at the very most. We see between 175-250 phones per day on average. Like I said before, the bricked devices are usually brought in by young males who seem to think they know a lot about their phone. Extensive retail fraud training comes in handy when we can pick out when we're being fed a line because they immediately start over-explaining what was going on when the device just failed and then they start offering explanations as to why their story is valid.
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After the 1st month of the change the increased our csat goals. As for my exchange rate, as a store we are below 20% our goal is 32%. If I miss my goal, guess what, nothing happens. If I miss csat goals, I take a huge paycut. I agree we don't see many unrecoverably bricked phones. According to m&P's we cover rooted devices so whatever... as for dbr'ed phones, I am still the king at spotting liquid damage.
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I have paid for TEP since my HTC Evo, have not once bricked or even brought any phone back to sprint. It's sad that so many are bricking and not taking responsibility and even worse is when I hear stories of successful returns even without insurance.
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I must say I have been paying TEP for 2 phones for over 7 years and way back in the $6 dollar days I think it was. I have been rooting and messing with my phone since my PC6700 and I have not had to use my Ins at all. Hey it sucks to pay for it all those years but I rather have it than not. But you can't knock people for trying to get away with what they can... unfortunately its kinda human nature to get as much as they can out of certain situations...
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Couldn't agree more. If you brick it, its your own fault. You should just pay the 100$ deductible and call it even. If you want to avoid it then either read read and read some more or don't mess with it in the first place. The only people I am not talking about are the devs who found the problems out the hard way. But when they say don't do somehing and you do it because you couldn't be bothered to read a paragraph you should pay up.
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Other than developers there were some in the beginning that got caught up long before some developers took the plunge and borked their phones. I agree if more people read the OP then we would have less issues. They should have an agreement popup when you click to download a rom stating that you read the OP or something. I know it won't work but I am just saying there were like 5 "I think I bricked my phone" threads popping up every 12 hours for a few weeks....
The only phone I have had that would not boot and give a blue led flash was one of our in store demos. It was plugged in all day on a demo loop.
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Do you seriously think Apple sells the iPhone to carriers for $199? Not a chance, and the same applies to Android manufacturers. From what I've read, carriers pay around $500 per smartphone, so have about $300 to make up over the 2 year contract term. A little less for Verizon, because they can get away with charging $299 for some devices.
There's a reason they call it a "subsidy".
Edit - Here's a decent article on the subject with a few numbers ... http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=18672&news=Apple+iPhone+ATT+Verizon+Sprint
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Apple should, since it probably costs them like 50 cents to have a bunch of suicidal chinese workers make their Iphones.
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Apple should, since it probably costs them like 50 cents to have a bunch of suicidal chinese workers make their Iphones.
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I hope to god I don't brick my phone, although with developing its almost unavoidable at some point..
Both I and my dad have made friends with a tech at sprint, he has been helping us out since the old htc hero days, so I would like you other sprint techs to clarify for me..
Last time I had gone in (got my ns4g, mid-july) he had told me that they cover bricked devices, so if anything went wrong in that area, they would replace the device for me.. Never had to use my TEP, and have had it for the past 4 years.
Would they replace my ns4g if I brought it bricked? or would there be a deductable? Not trying to lie to them, just curious. I had developed for it for the past couple months and come close to bricking a few times. If I could use my TEP powers just this once, I would be a happy camper with my ns4g.
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By policy, anything that voids warranty falls under deductible. This includes damage caused by root, misuse or misplacement. Some techs will still help you with the bricking part.
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Thanks for clarifying.. I guess i'll just have to bring it to my friendly sprint tech and see what he can do..
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Lol, I'm still a little shocked at how corporate techs handle LD. A tiny little blemish in the copper and a couple of my techs scream LD! LD! and DBR the phone just to avoid putting in any effort. I see this as a lack of experience in determining the true cause of the customer's problem. In situations where there is a little LD, I just make the customer aware and scrub it off with a little denatured alcohol, run a gold pen over it to re-seal the copper and toss in an anti-tarnish tab to absorb any humidity that would aggregate it. That's how you earn true CSAT.
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So when they come back a week later and have a dead phone, that is shoddy work. Flag it, then offer the cleaning, give no promises. I have seen phones that has been at the bottom of a pool for 15 minutes and my brother is still using it, and I have seen a tiny spot of corrosion on a power ic and the phone will never power on. Just fyi I have been doing this for 9 years now, I have 84 surveys under my belt, which is a lot for a tech, I am 84 for 84. Our repair csat avg for the last year is 82%. Don't tell me how to earn csat, SON. Yes I realized I just started a pissing match on a forum, but I don't like being told I don't know how to do my job. My srss has 3rd party techs come and shadow me to learn the right way to do things.
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84 surveys???? I get 84 surveys a month :x with. 100% csats I might add
Not bragging lol
Ooooook a liiitle lol jk
I can assure you if you have water damage, even in the slightest, I will not be replacing your device so some poor bloke can get your remnufactured board and I have to replace his too...
Ok so I flashed a ROM for an International Galaxy S3 and I have a Sprint Galaxy S3.
The ROMs I found all being on the same forum really messed with my head...
But it will not do anything. The screen is black. If i plug it in nothing happens. If i press buttons nothing happens.
If I take it to Sprint do you think they will be able to get it to work again?
They won't be able to check if i am rooted since it doesnt show anything...
I already looked at the whole JTAG REPAIRs everywhere and I dont want to pay 60$ to fix my phone if Sprint can do it for free
Also I dont want to buy a USB JIG either.
I got this phone couple months back by the way
Sprint won't do it for Free if you are out of warranty. Maybe $35 with luck, $150 if you have TEP.
But you can try... Play the "it just stop working" game.
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csmasn said:
Sprint won't do it for Free if you are out of warranty. Maybe $35 with luck, $150 if you have TEP.
But you can try... Play the "it just stop working" game.
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Yeah cuz fraud is awesome when you act irresponsibly....:victory:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2156714
So then what do you suppose I do?
I could also say," oh I was watching a video on YouTube on how to restore my phone to like make it fresh new; and when I went to recovery mode or something, I guess I made a wrong turn and ended up here "
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So then what do you suppose I do?
I could also say," oh I was watching a video on YouTube on how to restore my phone to like make it fresh new; and when I went to recovery mode or something, I guess I made a wrong turn and ended up here "
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The primary option you're looking for is a JTAG repair.
I believe you can purchase the materials yourself to do it, but if I've read correctly, you'd most likely have to solder stuff to other stuff (technical answer, I know!).
If you don't mind paying someone to repair it, you might want to try out Mobile Tech Videos. I haven't used their services personally and their website looks a bit on the low-budget end of the spectrum, but other XDA members have gone to them and they gave them a positive review.
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The primary option you're looking for is a JTAG repair.
I believe you can purchase the materials yourself to do it, but if I've read correctly, you'd most likely have to solder stuff to other stuff (technical answer, I know!).
If you don't mind paying someone to repair it, you might want to try out Mobile Tech Videos. I haven't used their services personally and their website looks a bit on the low-budget end of the spectrum, but other XDA members have gone to them and they gave them a positive review.
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I did check out their website before but I was just wondering if sprint would do it for less to nothing $
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I did check out their website before but I was just wondering if sprint would do it for less to nothing $
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I'm gonna stick with what The Root said, and say the following:
You done messed up, son. You flashed a ROM knowing full well that there was a chance it'd brick your phone. Now it's bricked because you didn't read all the information available to you. To expect Sprint to pay for your mistake is, if I may be frank, irresponsible. I know $60 may be a lot to some people, but you were messing around with a $500 piece of technology. But I'd say it'd be much better to take this situation as a learning experience, and in the future you'll never brick your phone again because you'll make sure to do 3 or 4 google searches and really do your due diligence before flashing something on your phone.
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I'm gonna stick with what The Root said, and say the following:
You done messed up, son. You flashed a ROM knowing full well that there was a chance it'd brick your phone. Now it's bricked because you didn't read all the information available to you. To expect Sprint to pay for your mistake is, if I may be frank, irresponsible. I know $60 may be a lot to some people, but you were messing around with a $500 piece of technology. But I'd say it'd be much better to take this situation as a learning experience, and in the future you'll never brick your phone again because you'll make sure to do 3 or 4 google searches and really do your due diligence before flashing something on your phone.
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For what it's worth, I just paid the $150 TEP on my phone because I was trying to upgrade my TWRP to 2.4.2.0 and something happened that caused me to brick my phone. I know lots of people have said 'Oh, just go in and they'll do a factory replacement' but honestly you can get a phone the next day if you pay the fee.
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For what it's worth, I just paid the $150 TEP on my phone because I was trying to upgrade my TWRP to 2.4.2.0 and something happened that caused me to brick my phone. I know lots of people have said 'Oh, just go in and they'll do a factory replacement' but honestly you can get a phone the next day if you pay the fee.
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Yes, but that's a bit different than "wondering if sprint would do it for less to nothing $"
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Yes, but that's a bit different than "wondering if sprint would do it for less to nothing $"
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That's my point.........just accept that you screwed up and pay the consequences of your actions.
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For what it's worth, I just paid the $150 TEP on my phone because I was trying to upgrade my TWRP to 2.4.2.0 and something happened that caused me to brick my phone. I know lots of people have said 'Oh, just go in and they'll do a factory replacement' but honestly you can get a phone the next day if you pay the fee.
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Wait what you are saying is I can just take it into the sprint store and I'll get a new phone the next day? Yes I know it is really irresponsible but like other people I have seen, we got confused with how the rooms are placed on the threads I am not saying that I will just give sprint my phone and make them suffer for my mistakes, but I was just asking
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Wait what you are saying is I can just take it into the sprint store and I'll get a new phone the next day? Yes I know it is really irresponsible but like other people I have seen, we got confused with how the rooms are placed on the threads I am not saying that I will just give sprint my phone and make them suffer for my mistakes, but I was just asking
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What I was saying is that if you file a replacement claim with Assurion, then they'll overnight you a phone.
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Wait what you are saying is I can just take it into the sprint store and I'll get a new phone the next day? Yes I know it is really irresponsible but like other people I have seen, we got confused with how the rooms are placed on the threads I am not saying that I will just give sprint my phone and make them suffer for my mistakes, but I was just asking
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It depends. Do you pay the monthly TEP fee for your phone? If you're enrolled in the program (and pay the monthly fee), you can walk into a store and (for most situations) get a new (or most-likely refurbished) phone the same or next day (for the low, low cost of the $150 deductible). Typically no questions asked.
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It depends. Do you pay the monthly TEP fee for your phone? If you're enrolled in the program (and pay the monthly fee), you can walk into a store and (for most situations) get a new (or most-likely refurbished) phone the same or next day (for the low, low cost of the $150 deductible). Typically no questions asked.
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They can't give you a new one, they can only send you the 'certified replacements'......it has to do with agreements they have with Samsung. You can get a swapped brand spanking new one provided you are within the 14 day post purchase window.
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They can't give you a new one, they can only send you the 'certified replacements'......it has to do with agreements they have with Samsung. You can get a swapped brand spanking new one provided you are within the 14 day post purchase window.
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Ah, I stand corrected. Also, I just remembered that you don't have to go into the store, just file a claim online.
I have only used the TEP once (for my old EVO 4G). Do you have to return the old phone?
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Ah, I stand corrected. Also, I just remembered that you don't have to go into the store, just file a claim online.
I have only used the TEP once (for my old EVO 4G). Do you have to return the old phone?
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Yeah....but when they ship you the replacement phone, they also ship you the pre-paid envelope to ship back the defective device.
Andybkn said:
Ok so I flashed a ROM for an International Galaxy S3 and I have a Sprint Galaxy S3.
The ROMs I found all being on the same forum really messed with my head...
But it will not do anything. The screen is black. If i plug it in nothing happens. If i press buttons nothing happens.
If I take it to Sprint do you think they will be able to get it to work again?
They won't be able to check if i am rooted since it doesnt show anything...
I already looked at the whole JTAG REPAIRs everywhere and I dont want to pay 60$ to fix my phone if Sprint can do it for free
Also I dont want to buy a USB JIG either.
I got this phone couple months back by the way
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Play dumb and pay the deductible.
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DraggyWan said:
Play dumb and pay the deductible.
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You mean to go to the store and just pretend I don't know what happened? How much would the deductible be? I do not have TEP... If it is more than 60$ then might as well get it repaired in that one JTAG REPAIR website
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You mean to go to the store and just pretend I don't know what happened? How much would the deductible be? I do not have TEP... If it is more than 60$ then might as well get it repaired in that one JTAG REPAIR website
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They're not going to be able to fix it. JTAG might be your best option.
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You mean to go to the store and just pretend I don't know what happened? How much would the deductible be? I do not have TEP... If it is more than 60$ then might as well get it repaired in that one JTAG REPAIR website
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If you dont have TEP then the best option is the JTAG repair
In the post it is suggested to file an insurance claim.....I don't think it is right for XDA to sticky/pin a thread that suggest defrauding your carrier.
Although I agree pointing out the fact of "not flashing other carrier's ROMS," I do however disagree with suggesting fraud. The statement in the post contradicts itself. I have flashed ROMS since Android/Blackberry has been around and if I bricked it.....I bought it.....Warranty does not cover "wannabe programmers."
Just my 2 cents.
Just for reference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2156714
DO NOT FLASH INTERNATIONAL ROMS!!!!!
Just a reminder to avoid you making an expensive paperweight. Flash only ROMs made for you carrier!
If you do screw up, man up and pay your deductible for insurance instead of trying to fraud your carrier for a warranty replacement.
The thread clearly states NOT to defraud the carrier. The post recommends a claim against insurance. This is not contradicting since the insurance is through a third party that the user pays for and not the actual carrier.
Insurance is there to cover any damage you cause. What is the difference between a "wannabe programmer" and someone who drops their phone in the toilet?
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JungleKing76 said:
The thread clearly states NOT to defraud the carrier. The post recommends a claim against insurance. This is not contradicting since the insurance is through a third party that the user pays for and not the actual carrier.
Insurance is there to cover any damage you cause. What is the difference between a "wannabe programmer" and someone who drops their phone in the toilet?
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The difference is: the Carrier insurance is for physical damage/loss/stolen.......not self inflicted software failure. Contact any provider: insurance is not in place to save you after you have "f_cK'ed your phone up.
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The thread clearly states NOT to defraud the carrier. The post recommends a claim against insurance. This is not contradicting since the insurance is through a third party that the user pays for and not the actual carrier.
Insurance is there to cover any damage you cause. What is the difference between a "wannabe programmer" and someone who drops their phone in the toilet?
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Agreed. I have no problem sending someone to get a refurbished phone through insurance. That's why you're paying for the insurance. I only have problems with people trying to get Sprint to pay for their mistakes. In the short run, they save a couple of bucks. In the long run, that practice will only lead to increased prices for us all.
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Agreed. I have no problem sending someone to get a refurbished phone through insurance. That's why you're paying for the insurance. I only have problems with people trying to get Sprint to pay for their mistakes. In the short run, they save a couple of bucks. In the long run, that practice will only lead to increased prices for us all.
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https://protection.sprint.com/
Coverage
Total Equipment Protection has got you covered for just about any situation that may derail your day. Whether your phone is broken, beaten, lost, or stolen, we quickly re-connect you with all the people and places that matter to you.
Total Equipment Protection covers you for the following:
Loss
Theft
Physical or liquid damage
Mechanical and electrical failure due to defect or normal wear and tear
Flashing and bricking your phone does not get covered under this-----this is why deductibles go up...over use of insurance by people who should not be flashing their devices....
fyi, I still love you guys.
This rom seems pretty snappy. Looks great also.. Awesome work here man, keep up the good work.
LOL.. just getting one in before the removal..
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LouRock said:
This rom seems pretty snappy. Looks great also.. Awesome work here man, keep up the good work.
LOL.. just getting one in before the removal..
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As far as this being off topic, it is because it is in a sticky----in this section. :good:
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The difference is: the Carrier insurance is for physical damage/loss/stolen.......not self inflicted software failure. Contact any provider: insurance is not in place to save you after you have "f_cK'ed your phone up.
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A bricked phone is a damaged. I bought my phone. I damaged my phone I pay for my insurance.
If you accidentally drop your phone how different is it really from accidentally bricking it?
"Contact any provider" wahhhh I cost a multi billion dollar company a hundred or so bucks. So so sorry for costing them a fraction of a second of revenue. They lock MY phone's down. I'm still paying those bastards ten bucks a month for 4g I don't have yet.
They can bite me.
I'm giving them ten dollars a month for nothing. If I **** up a phone, I'm ok with letting a billionaire pay for it.
I won't defraud them. I'm going to pay my deductible.
But I'm not going to pay 650$
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A bricked phone is a damaged. I bought my phone. I damaged my phone I pay for my insurance.
If you accidentally drop your phone how different is it really from accidentally bricking it?
"Contact any provider" wahhhh I cost a multi billion dollar company a hundred or so bucks. So so sorry for costing them a fraction of a second of revenue. They lock MY phone's down. I'm still paying those bastards ten bucks a month for 4g I don't have yet.
They can bite me.
I'm giving them ten dollars a month for nothing. If I **** up a phone, I'm ok with letting a billionaire pay for it.
I won't defraud them. I'm going to pay my deductible.
But I'm not going to pay 650$
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It's not about that......It's funny how a thread like this can bring out the "Trolls." This thread is only about changing the sticky so it does not suggest going by way of insurance.......It should just be a simple "You are SOL" if you brick your phone.
Please, "Trolls" go back under the rocks......go flame somewhere else. Goodness!!
And for the record......if a phone gets bricked because of flashing a bad ROM.....it's like throwing it at the ground......because you sure did not flash the ROM by accident.....
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https://protection.sprint.com/
Coverage
Total Equipment Protection has got you covered for just about any situation that may derail your day. Whether your phone is broken, beaten, lost, or stolen, we quickly re-connect you with all the people and places that matter to you.
Total Equipment Protection covers you for the following:
Loss
Theft
Physical or liquid damage
Mechanical and electrical failure due to defect or normal wear and tear
Flashing and bricking your phone does not get covered under this-----this is why deductibles go up...over use of insurance by people who should not be flashing their devices....
fyi, I still love you guys.
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Interesting, I did not know that it does not explicitly say "bricked phones."
I was looking through the detailed coverage plan (with all it's legalese), and came across the exceptions and none of them seemed to invalidate the warranty based on modified software. The closest thing I could find was this section (In Section II, exceptions):
H. Loss caused by or resulting from use of the Covered Property in a manner for which it was not designed or intended by the manufacturer. Loss caused by or resulting from failure to follow the manufacturer's installation, operation or maintenance instructions.
This seems to be limiting their liability for things outside the phone. Like you cannot claim the cost of fixing your car from when you ran into that building while texting behind the wheel (not following the manufacturer's operating instructions).
I don't know... I was trying to look through the document with an unbiased eye, but I do like having the safety-net of having insurance in case I brick my phone.
Let me know if you find anything in there that voids the coverage based on modified systems (ROMs, rooting, etc).
This is not about pointing the fingers and telling people they are wrong.
It's about the things that go on without being said. I do not think XDA should be outright saying to file an insurance claim.
That is what this is ultimately about.
Sorry if I have caused a lot of corinaries/ruptured veins.
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Ok there is no need for this thread at all, even less in Development section.
PLEASE READ ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING, AND IF YOU QUESTION ANYTHING ASK IN THE Q AND A SECTION! Do not flash ANYTHING NOT MADE FOR YOUR SPECIFIC MODEL OF S3, THIS INCLUDES INTERNATIONAL ROMS. If you don't know what you are about to do, DON'T DO IT, ask somebody first. This is freaking common sense to me, and most of us, but I know a lot of people lack that skill these days. And if you still end up bricking your device get a JTAG, DON'T COMMIT FRAUD BY GOING TO THE STORE AND ACTING LIKE A OBLIVIOUS IDIOT THAT HAS NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED. Take some responsibility for your mistakes and actions, that YOU alone did, and pay the insurance claim or JTAG. I know this isn't the first time this has been talked about, and surely not the last, but maybe this will prevent one freaking brick, and we won't have to see. HELP I BRICKED MY PHONE!................
This is a good thread, say thanks to the op, for FAQs http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38172219
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This should maybe go into the general section.
GiantJay said:
This should maybe go into the general section.
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This should be plastered on billboards every 1/4 mile across the entire planet.
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I agree if this continues to occur. I would expect to begin to see higher cost for phones and insurance premiums for everyone.
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I agree if this continues to occur. I would expect to begin to see higher cost for phones and insurance premiums for everyone.
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TEP/asurion have already begun to creep up in price from ~$7/month to ~$11/month deductible from $100 to $200. Early upgrades, premier membership etc have been stripped. This is due to the abuse of the generous in house warranty services sprint provides for their customers so they don't have to wait weeks for the mfg. Sprint could just as easily tell you to go eff yourself and deal with the manufacturer just like any other retailer does. They have absolutely 0 legal or moral responsibility to honor the manufacturer warranty in store, they do so as a courtesy.
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Anyone else notice how the most common ROM causing these bricks is the Omega ROM?
In case you are unaware, omega happens to be "the end" of the Greek alphabet. How fitting that so many phones should meet their "end" with that ROM...
Irony is a bastard.
Putting the ILLA in KILLA since 1985
Edit: Just before I posted, the thread above this one was someone asking if it was OK to flash the Omega ROM on the Sprint S3... Didn't notice till I backed out of this thread after I posted. I laughed a little.
All these people's mistakes and then them committing fraud (as the OP stated), will make future phone prices go up. At this rate, by time the S5 comes out, it will be close to $1000 -___-
I see you guys have the same issues in the s3 forum as we do in the i727. The world is the same everywhere! Chin up, carry on.
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I suspect returns of bricked phones are lost in the noise of general warranty replacements. Samsung's sold what, 40 million GS3s? (Or is it "only" 20 million? I can't remember.) Only a tiny fraction of these buyers come to forums like this one or AC, and only a small fraction of those who go to AC ever root (I suspect the percentage is higher here, but we're still a tiny fraction of phone buyers). And of that small number who root, only a fraction brick their phones.
When a bricked phone gets returned to Samsung, I suspect they can reflash the device, and put it into the refurb pool for future warranty replacements.
Does that mean I don't blame people for messing with things they don't understand and turning their phones into expensive door stops? No, but mistakes happen. None of us are immune from that disease. Nor do I condone people who brick their phones through their own stupidity returning them to the carrier for replacement. I just suspect the cost impact is negligible. I'm willing to bet Assurian's price increases are driven by broken screens far more than by bricked phones.
I agree, I haven't bricked one device ever.
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Giant.... You aren't perfect whatsoever. So don't make yourself out to seem like it. Everyone has flaws an us as human beings, we're prone to mistakes. Returning a bricked phone here an there won't cause any issues as in insurance prices.
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DraggyWan said:
Giant.... You aren't perfect whatsoever. So don't make yourself out to seem like it. Everyone has flaws an us as human beings, we're prone to mistakes. Returning a bricked phone here an there won't cause any issues as in insurance prices.
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If you return a bricked device by playing stupid, you're committing fraud which is A) morally wrong and B) can be legally wrong depending on the circumstances. Samsung and Sprint both have the right to bill you the full amount of the replacement device if they so choose after you've defrauded them out of a new one. The warranty does not cover bricks, physical damage or anything other than manufacturer defects. It's a moral issue, most honest people would take responsibility for their error and pay for their mistake instead of playing dumb and cheating their way into a free device because they screwed up. It doesn't matter if someone isn't perfect it's all about being responsible for your own actions and not being a self entitled scumbag and thinking Samsung and/or Sprint should pay for your dumbass mistake because you couldn't be bothered to pay attention to what the hell you're doing when messing with your $700 device. As a matter of fact I paid full price off contract for my Note 2, I screwed it up (not bricked but borked my IMEI so it wouldn't connect to the network) I didn't try to claim a warranty on it, I paid full price for a new device since I fu*ked mine up all on my own.
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If you return a bricked device by playing stupid, you're committing fraud which is A) morally wrong and B) can be legally wrong depending on the circumstances. Samsung and Sprint both have the right to bill you the full amount of the replacement device if they so choose after you've defrauded them out of a new one. The warranty does not cover bricks, physical damage or anything other than manufacturer defects. It's a moral issue, most honest people would take responsibility for their error and pay for their mistake instead of playing dumb and cheating their way into a free device because they screwed up. It doesn't matter if someone isn't perfect it's all about being responsible for your own actions and not being a self entitled scumbag and thinking Samsung and/or Sprint should pay for your dumbass mistake because you couldn't be bothered to pay attention to what the hell you're doing when messing with your $700 device. As a matter of fact I paid full price off contract for my Note 2, I screwed it up (not bricked but borked my IMEI so it wouldn't connect to the network) I didn't try to claim a warranty in it, I paid full price for a new device since I fu*ked mine up all on my own.
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I've committed fraud since I did brick my phone cept I paid the 100 dollar deductible.
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EndlessDissent said:
Anyone else notice how the most common ROM causing these bricks is the Omega ROM?
In case you are unaware, omega happens to be "the end" of the Greek alphabet. How fitting that so many phones should meet their "end" with that ROM...
Irony is a bastard.
Putting the ILLA in KILLA since 1985
Edit: Just before I posted, the thread above this one was someone asking if it was OK to flash the Omega ROM on the Sprint S3... Didn't notice till I backed out of this thread after I posted. I laughed a little.
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Disagree. The rom isn't causing bricks. People who don't read cause them. Like guns don't kill people. People kill people.
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DraggyWan said:
I've committed fraud since I did brick my phone cept I paid the 100 dollar deductible.
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The insurance covers accidental damage. We are talking about people who play dumb to get it replaced under warranty for free/$35 not people who pay for TEP and then pay the deductible. That would be owning up for your mistake and actually paying for it. Big difference than not having insurance and getting a replacement under the manufacturer warranty as a defect cuz you go in and say "gee idk what happened it just stopped working" knowing damn well why it "just stopped working" because they didn't pay attention and flashed sh*t for the wrong device.
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I like to break stuff!
DraggyWan said:
Giant.... You aren't perfect whatsoever. So don't make yourself out to seem like it. Everyone has flaws an us as human beings, we're prone to mistakes. Returning a bricked phone here an there won't cause any issues as in insurance prices.
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Never said I was perfect, and I am the first to admit I am not. Thank you for putting words in my mouth though.
GiantJay said:
Never said I was perfect, and I am the first to admit I am not. Thank you for putting words in my mouth though.
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Uh huh... No problem my friend.
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Look, I work in real insurance, homeowners currently, and I see first hand on a daily basis how the few affect the whole. Every time a fraudulent claim slips past we have to recoup the money somehow or we go bankrupt and can no longer provide our services to those who deserve them. Typically we recoup the losses by raising everyone's premium. So even tho the amount of policy holders who commit fraud is a small percentage of the total number of policy holders, their crooked tactics effect the honest policy holders negatively when we have to raise their premium. It's part of doing business. No company is in business to give money away, they're in business to make a profit. Fraud even on a small scale effects everyone as a whole when the company realizes they aren't bringing in enough profit to at least break even they increase their prices to make up the losses so that they can continue providing their services and paying their employees. When Samsung/Sprint realize they aren't making the profit vs the device's going out of inventory guess what's going to happen? That's right prices will go up to make up for that lost money. Sprint already loses money hand over fist by purchasing the device's at a premium and then subsidizing them to the customers at a loss in hopes of making up those losses in monthly payments on the contract. This is why the contract is typically 24 months to guarantee they have your commitment to pay for their services so that they actual post a profit on that device they kindly discounted over 60% for you. This is also why there is an ETF on the contract so if you decide to leave early they can recoup the money subsidized on the device, and even then the ETF doesn't cover the full cost of the device.
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I like to break stuff!
miller710 said:
Disagree. The rom isn't causing bricks. People who don't read cause them. Like guns don't kill people. People kill people.
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Meh. Semantics... Regardless, it's still the most-flashed ROM mentioned in the "I BRICKED MY PHONE!" threads, and it's still ironic.
Putting the ILLA in KILLA since 1985
EndlessDissent said:
Meh. Semantics... Regardless, it's still the most-flashed ROM mentioned in the "I BRICKED MY PHONE!" threads, and it's still ironic.
Putting the ILLA in KILLA since 1985
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Yeah but you cant blame the rom. Blame the people lol. If you flash an international rom your fault. Not theirs
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If you already gave your Note 7 back for a refund but for some reason are still reading these Forums, say "HAY!"...
So much termoil in here I'm just watching it crash and burn.... *cough*
Loved my N7.. Got S7E.. For now.
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Itchiee said:
So much termoil in here I'm just watching it crash and burn.... *cough*
Loved my N7.. Got S7E.. For now.
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Same here. Got the S7 Edge on Tmobile Jump on Demand. If the 8 comes out and impresses us enough I may go to that in the spring/summer. Missing the Note. But the S7 edge is certainly holding its own
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I wonder if any devs are planning to keep their unit?
At this point it's more a study in human psychology than a device forum. You have venting posts from those that are pissed about what they endured, genuine hardship stories from those that bought third party that are orphans, and those in denial rationalizing away the incident and bolstering each others reasoning for keeping the phone. You normally have to pay for theatre this good.
I have a replaced note 7, I will wait the s8 launch, here my carrier will honor the 1 year warranty period, and, for that period, the exchange as well, so, in the meantime, I will enjoy my note 7, and, if I decide within the warranty period, will get a full refund, it is win-win situation!
winol said:
my carrier will honor the 1 year warranty period
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No one, at least no authorized dealer, is going to repair a Note7 under warranty or for cash. If something happens to it and if whatever that something is falls under warranty you'll be give the option of exchanging the phone for something else. To repair a recalled phone and put it back in the owner's hands is irresponsible and leaves whoever did it liable should the phone have an incident.
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BarryH_GEG said:
At this point it's more a study in human psychology than a device forum. You have venting posts from those that are pissed about what they endured, genuine hardship stories from those that bought third party that are orphans, and those in denial rationalizing away the incident and bolstering each others reasoning for keeping the phone. You normally have to pay for theatre this good.
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Don't forget, you also have the morally superior and socially responsible people who know far better than anyone else, who are happily and vigorously spewing toxic file hate towards anyone who's still using the phone and even remotely contemplates the idea of keeping it, or even keeping it for a short period of time until they can figure out what phone to replace it with.
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BarryH_GEG said:
No one, at least no authorized dealer, is going to repair a Note7 under warranty or for cash. If something happens to it and if whatever that something is falls under warranty you'll be give the option of exchanging the phone for something else. To repair a recalled phone and put it back in the owner's hands is irresponsible and leaves whoever did it liable should the phone have an incident.
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It may even be illegal to do that in Canada. Possibly illegal in the USA too.
I know in Canada, you can't give or sell a recalled product to anyone (unless they are involved in the recall and you are giving it to them to give your device back under that recall). I kind of wonder if a business would be liable under the consumer protection and safety act if they repaired a recalled product and gave it back. I assume they would, because they knowingly gave someone (a customer, no less), a recalled and "dangerous" product.
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Don't forget, you also have the morally superior and socially responsible people who know far better than anyone else, who are happily and vigorously spewing toxic file hate towards anyone who's still using the phone and even remotely contemplates the idea of keeping it, or even keeping it for a short period of time until they can figure out what phone to replace it with.
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It may even be illegal to do that in Canada. Possibly illegal in the USA too.
I know in Canada, you can't give or sell a recalled product to anyone (unless they are involved in the recall and you are giving it to them to give your device back under that recall). I kind of wonder if a business would be liable under the consumer protection and safety act if they repaired a recalled product and gave it back. I assume they would, because they knowingly gave someone (a customer, no less), a recalled and "dangerous" product.
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Yeah seems like many are scoffing at people still using the device until they can replace it which is amusing ....and I can do even better than that .I returned and got a refund for my first one, then quickly realized i made a mistake getting rid of it so got another one lol.
Simple fact is there is not currently anything on the market which can replace it at least for me.
And anyone who has a problem with that, tell someone who cares what you think because I dont
Illegal or not they can still be bought and be repaired.... if parts are available which admittedly would likely be an issue.
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force70 said:
Yeah seems like many are scoffing at people still using the device until they can replace it which is amusing ....and I can do even better than that .I returned and got a refund for my first one, tjen quickly alized i made a mistake getting rid of it so got another one lol.
Simple fact is there is not currently anything on the market which can replace it at least for me.
And anyone who has a problem with that, tell someone who cares what you think because I dont
Illegal or not they can still be bought and be repaired.... if parts are available which admittedly would likely be an issue.
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*GASP*
You must be morally bankrupt! Where is your sense of social responsibility and justice?
Think of the children!
If it only saves one life, it's worth it!
Who even NEEDS a phone like the Note 7 anyways? I mean, really, phones like that have no place in a civilized society.
Hey! Waiting for Samsung to ship me the "explosion proof box" to ship my phone back to Samsung.
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I just arranged an appointment to have my Note 7 returned on 3 November.
I am still sticking around because I am waiting for a report from Samsung, explaining what caused the batteries to combust.
Hey! And I'm with the other guy, this is better then any movie out right now. There is great drama on this forum. We have elation, sorrow, revenge, love, hate, and everything between.
I hate you all. I love you. It's outrageous. It's fantastic.
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my phone went back and I've moved on, but still watch this just to see when the problem is actually stated and to see if the people sticking with the phone blow up.
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Hey! And I'm with the other guy, this is better then any movie out right now. There is great drama on this forum. We have elation, sorrow, revenge, love, hate, and everything between.
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Yeah kind of like how married people are after 10 15 20 years
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