So I know what AOKP and AOSP both stand for, but I'm not quite sure what they are. What makes it so that some ROMs called themselves AOSP but others don't? I thought AOSP just meant Android Open Source Project... so wouldn't every ROM be an AOSP that isn't the stock Sprint ROM?
Another question I have is about Android 4.0.4. From my understanding, most ROMs are Android 4.0.3. But if the Sprint leaks are all 4.0.3, where are people getting 4.0.4 from? What are the major differences anyways?
Sorry for the noob questions. I've just been wondering for awhile and whenever I search, I can never find a good description asides from what the acronyms AOKP and AOSP stand for.
Most roms that call themselves AOSP are made to look as close as possible to stock android. Also, the reason we are able to have Android 4.0.4 roms is because those roms are ports from other devices rather than built straight from the leaks. The only noticeable difference between 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 is better battery life.
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Most roms that call themselves AOSP are made to look as close as possible to stock android. Also, the reason we are able to have Android 4.0.4 roms is because those roms are ports from other devices rather than built straight from the leaks. The only noticeable difference between 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 is better battery life.
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Ohh makes sense, thanks. What about AOKP then? Would that be everything else? I always heard that Kang meant to either improve on someone's ideas or steal it.
AOSP is straight up Android, no manufacturer over lay (TouchWiz, Sense, Blur). The AOSP roms tend to have a lot more tweaks and customizability since they are built from Android source, and our devs, as generous as they are, like to include goodies for us to make our phones as cool as possible.
AoSP (aokp,cm9,codename) are built from Google's source repos. This is also where 4.0.4 is from, its the next update for ICS with many bug fixes including video(Netflix,YouTube) and video in browser working, as well as many other numerous bug fixes within the code. The manufacturers have 4.0.3 have already put alot of work into it and will continue using it as their base until they have the initial release out then will start merging 4.0.4 into their upstream, to be included I'm the next round of OTA's. Anything 4.0.4 is AOSP meaning pure android no 3rd party manufacturer UI such as TouchWiz(Samsung),Blur(Motorola),or Sense(HTC). AOSP is what ships on the Nexus line, also called the Google experience.
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iniz94 said:
Ohh makes sense, thanks. What about AOKP then? Would that be everything else? I always heard that Kang meant to either improve on someone's ideas or steal it.
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Kang does mean stolen code. AOKP is a rom built by a group that likes to call themselves Team Kang.
Makes a lot of sense, thanks everyone! Never knew that aosp was a customized vanilla rom
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Kang does mean stolen code. AOKP is a rom built by a group that likes to call themselves Team Kang.
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Stolen? Like from other programmers Roms? Does the scene support this?
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Android is open source meaning no one owns anything, its all shared under the Apache license. So technically no one is stealing anything, a Kang is using other developers code and either adding your own onto it or combining multiple sources to make the existing code better
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I have a quick question, why do I have to go back to a rooted EL26 to flash AOKP/AOSP? Why can't I use the current recovery like rouge recovery? Is it not the same?
abusedcloth said:
I have a quick question, why do I have to go back to a rooted EL26 to flash AOKP/AOSP? Why can't I use the current recovery like rouge recovery? Is it not the same?
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I believe it is to avoid bricking of phones. Ics rouge is known to brick phones so that's why you can't flash using well not recommended
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daniel4653 said:
I believe it is to avoid bricking of phones. Ics rouge is known to brick phones so that's why you can't flash using well not recommended
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What about EL29 rouge recovery?
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EL29 is a repacked version of CWM, ICS flashes are most successful on bare CWM. You go to EL26 (a stock CWM) to help prevent issues, its the safest route to (and from) ICS
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Stolen? Like from other programmers Roms? Does the scene support this?
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Android is open source meaning no one owns anything, its all shared under the Apache license. So technically no one is stealing anything, a Kang is using other developers code and either adding your own onto it or combining multiple sources to make the existing code better
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I never said anything about how the word Kang applies to Android. In general it means stolen code but in this case it means improving on the source code.
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What is an aosp kernel? How is it different from the kernels we have like Genocide or even stock? What is different between CM7's kernel and our EF02 kernel?
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What is an aosp kernel? How is it different from the kernels we have like Genocide or even stock? What is different between CM7's kernel and our EF02 kernel?
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Asop Colonel?.......
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Roughly, it's the Nexus kernel ported to the Epic. Though, I believe they need the GB source for Epic to figure out what to alter to make it work properly. The other option is to build it from the ground up, which they're also attempting.
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What is an aosp kernel? How is it different from the kernels we have like Genocide or even stock? What is different between CM7's kernel and our EF02 kernel?
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Aosp means android open source project. An aosp kernel, or rom, is one built from googles source, not samsungs.. and lacks proprietary drivers and/or software...
Cm7 is basicaly an aosp kernel, but with attempts to boot on epic.. it also includes changes made by cyanogenmod team
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So its a kernel from android source, from google. But doesn't have drivers that samsung's source has? Why aren't samsung's sources merged/included/whatever into google's source?
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So its a kernel from android source, from google. But doesn't have drivers that samsung's source has? Why aren't samsung's sources merged/included/whatever into google's source?
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Htc and moto would be mad at google for bricking their customers phone.
They are merged when Samsung releases its version.
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So its a kernel from android source, from google. But doesn't have drivers that samsung's source has? Why aren't samsung's sources merged/included/whatever into google's source?
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Depending on what you meant, the would be. Ultimately they COULD start over if they wanted to, I imagine, but they don't. It's google's kernel + how to actually work this specific hardware. People are waiting for the "work this specific hardware" changes, not really the google part.
Mainly they're waiting because it's not worth investing 2 months into figuring out something that's going to be handed to you in 2 months.
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Mainly they're waiting because it's not worth investing 2 months into figuring out something that's going to be handed to you in 2 months.
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I finally rooted my phone and don't know what to do from here. I want a rom with good performance and good battery life. Which do you guys think is best? And what's aosp and open kang?
Thanks
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The best thing to do is test different ROMs your self as all you are going to get is 20 different responses telling you to use different rom and kernel combinations.
Saying that my recommendation is AOKP by romann and Trinity kernel from morfic.
AOSP - Android Open Source Project, this is what all android software starts of from. The GN runs android in its purest form so a lot of devs use AOSP in there thread titles.
AOKP - Android Open King Project, this is a play on AOSP. People refer to something being kanged something has been taken and used without permission. It's used in an ironic sense most of the time as XDA has a lot of copy and paste devs who take without asking.
In reality AOKP has many original features and tweaks in it that make it one of the most unique and customisable roms available.
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I finally rooted my phone and don't know what to do from here.
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This may sound a little harsh but if you don't know what you want root for it's likely that you don't need root at all. I would use stock ICS for a little while longer and revisit the custom ROMs later.
Lol I have rooted before my x10 and HTC desire and my touch 4g and Samsung vibrant but don't know what's a good rom for galaxy nexus and what aosp is or aokp till the last comment cleared everything and answered my question. So ya I know how to root and load custom rom
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This may sound a little harsh but if you don't know what you want root for it's likely that you don't need root at all. I would use stock ICS for a little while longer and revisit the custom ROMs later.
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AOKP is been my favorite ROM and it has so much customization but what happen to all AOKP threads ? They all closed. Is any Dev developing AOKP because on AOKP site they are up to Jelly bean and so far we don't have anything for our device. Thank you once again to all devs for giving us so much freedom and choice.
We have a dev who is gonna be attempting to build from source, i don't know where that thread went. Patience is my only advice it'll be here soon enough.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30401539
Source built JB AOKP for E4GT
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I'm working on it. This is my first build from source for a non supported device so its not exactly easy going... lots to learn. I had jay close my thread that mattix linked you to since it served no purpose. I hope to have it booting this weekend/ early next week and will post in development when its ready
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Thank you
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I'm working on it. This is my first build from source for a non supported device so its not exactly easy going... lots to learn. I had jay close my thread that matrix linked you to since it served no purpose. I hope to have it booting this weekend/ early next week and will post in development when its ready
Thank you very much for even trying that because only few devs have tried previcously and all threads are closed. So if you need tester let me know. I still use AOKP .
Thank you.
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I love AOKP too but after all threads started to close and devs disappear I gave up on it, then went CM but perpetual alpha and some issues I gave up on any customizations, root etc. Now I only use stock or combinations of different stock parts like modems or kernels that flash only via Odin.
Will try later cp AOKP JB and CM10 but when they are more mature.
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I love AOKP too but after all threads started to close and devs disappear I gave up on it, then went CM but perpetual alpha and some issues I gave up on any customizations, root etc. Now I only use stock or combinations of different stock parts like modems or kernels that flash only via Odin.
Will try later cp AOKP JB and CM10 but when they are more mature.
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Just a few points. I'm not sure what you mean by devs leaving. We have as many now as we ever did. If you're referring to AOKP specifically times_infinity decided he didn't want to work on it anymore. His old builds are still available and very stable and he is still putting out awesome aosp ROMs for this phone. Regarding the alpha status of our aosp based ROM choices I think you're getting hung up on the name. With the innumerable threads I see around here complaining about this or that issue with stock I'd have no problem recomending someone use cm9/cm10/aokp as their daily driver... I've never had a serious issue with any of them. Or if you still don't trust the "alphas" there are some truly great tw based ROMs like goodness and blukuban that definitely deserve a shot. Just my 2 cents.....
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Just a few points. I'm not sure what you mean by devs leaving. We have as many now as we ever did. If you're referring to AOKP specifically times_infinity decided he didn't want to work on it anymore. His old builds are still available and very stable and he is still putting out awesome aosp ROMs for this phone. Regarding the alpha status of our aosp based ROM choices I think you're getting hung up on the name. With the innumerable threads I see around here complaining about this or that issue with stock I'd have no problem recomending someone use cm9/cm10/aokp as their daily driver... I've never had a serious issue with any of them. Or if you still don't trust the "alphas" there are some truly great tw based ROMs like goodness and blukuban that definitely deserve a shot. Just my 2 cents.....
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If the aosp roms are alpha, id call ff18 a prealpha and fh13 a beta lol they have just as many if not more bugs than any of the aosp roms out. Hell even the aokp ports by TCP were more stable than stock seems to be. I flashed an ff18 leak to update my prl and profile, full wipe didn't load anything but TiBu so I could get mobile Odin with the flash kernel instead of having to redownload it and it was FC city as soon as it booted, process.acore, systemui kept FC over and over I ended up flashing the blukuban to do my updates before jumping back to aokp
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What is the difference between AOKP and AOSP? I see these two terms thrown around a lot but I've never been able to find a very good explanation of what exactly AOSP is. I know what they stand for abs I know that AOKP is a specific ROM, but what is the difference?
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What is the difference between AOKP and AOSP? I see these two terms thrown around a lot but I've never been able to find a very good explanation of what exactly AOSP is. I know what they stand for abs I know that AOKP is a specific ROM, but what is the difference?
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AOSP is the Android Open Source Project, i.e. the Android codebase that Google makes available to developers. See here, for example.
AOKP is a specific AOSP-based ROM, i.e. a ROM developed using the AOSP codebase as a starting point.
Is CyanogenMod AOSP-based as well? Is that why ParanoidKANGdroid can combine it with AOKP and ParanoidAndroid?
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Yes cyanogenmod is based off of AOSP.
Technically anything android is based on aosp as it is the source code. An aosp rom simply means pure google. Basically any nexus stock Rom could be considered aosp.
Kang on the other hand means "jacking" or borrowing a version spicing it up and making it your own that's why you have aokp a "kang of aosp". You're going to see a lot of kangs thrown around.
Feel free to add or correct me if I'm wrong.
To verify that we are on the same page:
Can there be a AOSP ROM that you can simply flash do a device like the i747 without the carrier bloatware or any other modifications?
Now things are making sense And yes, according to the previous post, technically a stock ROM, whichever version of Android you go for could be flashed, and be pure Android, no bloatware.
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Now things are making sense And yes, according to the previous post, technically a stock ROM, whichever version of Android you go for could be flashed, and be pure Android, no bloatware.
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What I want to get is a ROM for my i747 that doesn't have any AT&T bloatware installed but is still 4.1.2 current.
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What I want to get is a ROM for my i747 that doesn't have any AT&T bloatware installed but is still 4.1.2 current.
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4.1.2 isn't current any more; 4.2.1 is.
If you're enjoying your stock experience other than the bloatware, what I'd do is root your device and use something like Titanium Backup to freeze out the bloatware that you don't want to use - thus, you can keep doing what you've been doing and be happily bloat-free.
If you want to go further than that, by all means go ahead... it's fun to experiment and find out what works best for you.
I like custom ROMs mostly because I hate TouchWiz lol
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I like custom ROMs mostly because I hate TouchWiz lol
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which one is better aosp or aokp
I used the CM9 Rom on my Epic and generally enjoyed it. With the SG3, what seems to be the Rom of choice for most to offer and stability?
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I used the CM9 Rom on my Epic and generally enjoyed it. With the SG3, what seems to be the Rom of choice for most to offer and stability?
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All the touchwiz rom are stable, the difference between them are themes and features like multi window. 4.2 AOSP roms are a w.I.p imo, but the little bugs can be tolerated.
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Like said above, touchwiz is stable but I favor CM10. Awesome ROM. People say AOSP is always buggy, but I can tolerate it. I love cyanogenmod
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Miui or aokp
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@OP, we're steering this conversation towards rom types because as your question stands now, its gonna get locked.
I dont yet have this phone, but I love Sense. Sense, sense, sense roms all the way
Especially Sense 4.0+. Beautiful.
MIUI seems kinda bland to me, but AOSP is simple and sweet
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it sounds like most people like either CM10 or AOSP. any techies out there able to explain what one has that the other does not? I have used CM for years, but unfamiliar with AOSP. The other thing i liked having for the Epic, was I was able to switch back and forth between the stock rom and CM9 for Sprint updates. Can i still do that with the GS3? I was looking for the Stock Rom to have as a zip but did not find it on the forum. Helps with Sprint updates
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it sounds like most people like either CM10 or AOSP. any techies out there able to explain what one has that the other does not? I have used CM for years, but unfamiliar with AOSP. The other thing i liked having for the Epic, was I was able to switch back and forth between the stock rom and CM9 for Sprint updates. Can i still do that with the GS3? I was looking for the Stock Rom to have as a zip but did not find it on the forum. Helps with Sprint updates
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CM is an AOSP style rom.
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what does CM10 offer that the stock rom does not?
Fo sho its the Rom to have and use is the Chemistry Rom because I have a GS3 fleshed to boost and all my main functions I need all work with this ROM. My mms and my voice mail. And with Ktweaks kernel I am getting some serious battery time on this ROM so its over all the perfect ROM right now to have. And my man Sac is there every step of the way to give support and help with any issues
If you use cm10 or any aosp or aokp rom you lose all the goodies in touchwiz like motion effects.
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Personally I like MOAR ROM, great list of features and you can theme it however you want during install
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what does CM10 offer that the stock rom does not?
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It gives you a clean, stock android look, theme able, no bloatware, uses less ram. I have heard better battery life but I don't know. It has CM10 tweaks. If you can wait till cm10.1 is stable, it should be pretty awesome.
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does anyone know if there is a zip file of the stock 4.1.1. rom out there so that if I do download cm10 rom, i could switch back and forth between CM10.1 and stock rom
Make a backup in recovery. Thats what its there for
I like to break stuff!
Agreed. Backups are good
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I used the CM9 Rom on my Epic and generally enjoyed it. With the SG3, what seems to be the Rom of choice for most to offer and stability?
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Most of the roms in the Dev section are rock solid (minus a few bugs which are normal in almost everything) the only way to figure out which you are going to like is to read the OP of a few that sound interesting, flash and take it for a drive (give a day or two typically) unless you can't stand it. MOAR, TPR, and FAT ASS (Cartman Edition of TPR) are all great TW based roms, offer all the fun of normal TW.. Incredible themeing options via Morphology.
Free GS3 is another great rom (from what i hear) as well. I haven't personally ran this one either, but does work with Morphology for themeing options.
Just scan the dev section. You'll find a good fit.
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. MOAR, and FAT ASS (Cartman Edition of TPR) are all great TW based roms,.
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Is it just me, I don't recall ever seeing those in the dev section. Unless those are just nicknames
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Is it just me, I don't recall ever seeing those in the dev section. Unless those are just nicknames
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The Peoples Rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013463&highlight=fat+ass
Mother of All Roms (MOAR) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2116531&highlight=fat+ass
Fat Ass (TPR KANG) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2086302&highlight=fat+ass
Just nicks for the roms, minus the last one.. here's the direct links.
TN's rom is the best thing around right now in my opinion. Its got all the latest and greatest mods (multi, ink, 8 lock-screens, skip tracks) while keeping the stability of TW.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2063895
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I used the CM9 Rom on my Epic and generally enjoyed it. With the SG3, what seems to be the Rom of choice for most to offer and stability?
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Well buddy that's a matter of personal preference. Find out what you like your phone to do and find a rom that suit your needs. Unfortunately you won't get a definitive answer on this subject. Trial and error until you find what you like.
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