What is the difference between AOKP and AOSP? I see these two terms thrown around a lot but I've never been able to find a very good explanation of what exactly AOSP is. I know what they stand for abs I know that AOKP is a specific ROM, but what is the difference?
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What is the difference between AOKP and AOSP? I see these two terms thrown around a lot but I've never been able to find a very good explanation of what exactly AOSP is. I know what they stand for abs I know that AOKP is a specific ROM, but what is the difference?
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AOSP is the Android Open Source Project, i.e. the Android codebase that Google makes available to developers. See here, for example.
AOKP is a specific AOSP-based ROM, i.e. a ROM developed using the AOSP codebase as a starting point.
Is CyanogenMod AOSP-based as well? Is that why ParanoidKANGdroid can combine it with AOKP and ParanoidAndroid?
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Yes cyanogenmod is based off of AOSP.
Technically anything android is based on aosp as it is the source code. An aosp rom simply means pure google. Basically any nexus stock Rom could be considered aosp.
Kang on the other hand means "jacking" or borrowing a version spicing it up and making it your own that's why you have aokp a "kang of aosp". You're going to see a lot of kangs thrown around.
Feel free to add or correct me if I'm wrong.
To verify that we are on the same page:
Can there be a AOSP ROM that you can simply flash do a device like the i747 without the carrier bloatware or any other modifications?
Now things are making sense And yes, according to the previous post, technically a stock ROM, whichever version of Android you go for could be flashed, and be pure Android, no bloatware.
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drinfernoo said:
Now things are making sense And yes, according to the previous post, technically a stock ROM, whichever version of Android you go for could be flashed, and be pure Android, no bloatware.
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What I want to get is a ROM for my i747 that doesn't have any AT&T bloatware installed but is still 4.1.2 current.
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What I want to get is a ROM for my i747 that doesn't have any AT&T bloatware installed but is still 4.1.2 current.
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4.1.2 isn't current any more; 4.2.1 is.
If you're enjoying your stock experience other than the bloatware, what I'd do is root your device and use something like Titanium Backup to freeze out the bloatware that you don't want to use - thus, you can keep doing what you've been doing and be happily bloat-free.
If you want to go further than that, by all means go ahead... it's fun to experiment and find out what works best for you.
I like custom ROMs mostly because I hate TouchWiz lol
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drinfernoo said:
I like custom ROMs mostly because I hate TouchWiz lol
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which one is better aosp or aokp
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So I know what AOKP and AOSP both stand for, but I'm not quite sure what they are. What makes it so that some ROMs called themselves AOSP but others don't? I thought AOSP just meant Android Open Source Project... so wouldn't every ROM be an AOSP that isn't the stock Sprint ROM?
Another question I have is about Android 4.0.4. From my understanding, most ROMs are Android 4.0.3. But if the Sprint leaks are all 4.0.3, where are people getting 4.0.4 from? What are the major differences anyways?
Sorry for the noob questions. I've just been wondering for awhile and whenever I search, I can never find a good description asides from what the acronyms AOKP and AOSP stand for.
Most roms that call themselves AOSP are made to look as close as possible to stock android. Also, the reason we are able to have Android 4.0.4 roms is because those roms are ports from other devices rather than built straight from the leaks. The only noticeable difference between 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 is better battery life.
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Most roms that call themselves AOSP are made to look as close as possible to stock android. Also, the reason we are able to have Android 4.0.4 roms is because those roms are ports from other devices rather than built straight from the leaks. The only noticeable difference between 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 is better battery life.
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Ohh makes sense, thanks. What about AOKP then? Would that be everything else? I always heard that Kang meant to either improve on someone's ideas or steal it.
AOSP is straight up Android, no manufacturer over lay (TouchWiz, Sense, Blur). The AOSP roms tend to have a lot more tweaks and customizability since they are built from Android source, and our devs, as generous as they are, like to include goodies for us to make our phones as cool as possible.
AoSP (aokp,cm9,codename) are built from Google's source repos. This is also where 4.0.4 is from, its the next update for ICS with many bug fixes including video(Netflix,YouTube) and video in browser working, as well as many other numerous bug fixes within the code. The manufacturers have 4.0.3 have already put alot of work into it and will continue using it as their base until they have the initial release out then will start merging 4.0.4 into their upstream, to be included I'm the next round of OTA's. Anything 4.0.4 is AOSP meaning pure android no 3rd party manufacturer UI such as TouchWiz(Samsung),Blur(Motorola),or Sense(HTC). AOSP is what ships on the Nexus line, also called the Google experience.
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Ohh makes sense, thanks. What about AOKP then? Would that be everything else? I always heard that Kang meant to either improve on someone's ideas or steal it.
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Kang does mean stolen code. AOKP is a rom built by a group that likes to call themselves Team Kang.
Makes a lot of sense, thanks everyone! Never knew that aosp was a customized vanilla rom
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Kang does mean stolen code. AOKP is a rom built by a group that likes to call themselves Team Kang.
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Stolen? Like from other programmers Roms? Does the scene support this?
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Android is open source meaning no one owns anything, its all shared under the Apache license. So technically no one is stealing anything, a Kang is using other developers code and either adding your own onto it or combining multiple sources to make the existing code better
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I have a quick question, why do I have to go back to a rooted EL26 to flash AOKP/AOSP? Why can't I use the current recovery like rouge recovery? Is it not the same?
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I have a quick question, why do I have to go back to a rooted EL26 to flash AOKP/AOSP? Why can't I use the current recovery like rouge recovery? Is it not the same?
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I believe it is to avoid bricking of phones. Ics rouge is known to brick phones so that's why you can't flash using well not recommended
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daniel4653 said:
I believe it is to avoid bricking of phones. Ics rouge is known to brick phones so that's why you can't flash using well not recommended
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What about EL29 rouge recovery?
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EL29 is a repacked version of CWM, ICS flashes are most successful on bare CWM. You go to EL26 (a stock CWM) to help prevent issues, its the safest route to (and from) ICS
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Stolen? Like from other programmers Roms? Does the scene support this?
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Android is open source meaning no one owns anything, its all shared under the Apache license. So technically no one is stealing anything, a Kang is using other developers code and either adding your own onto it or combining multiple sources to make the existing code better
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I never said anything about how the word Kang applies to Android. In general it means stolen code but in this case it means improving on the source code.
Hey,
Just curious why there isn't an AOSP rom in the making or anything. There's pretty much every other rom available either in beta or stable but I'm just surprised that an AOSP rom hasn't been started. My assumption is that it would be easier to port AOSP compared to AOKP or CM, but I'm probably wrong in that statement. Anyways, just curious why there isn't one.
Thanks
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Hey,
Just curious why there isn't an AOSP rom in the making or anything. There's pretty much every other rom available either in beta or stable but I'm just surprised that an AOSP rom hasn't been started. My assumption is that it would be easier to port AOSP compared to AOKP or CM, but I'm probably wrong in that statement. Anyways, just curious why there isn't one.
Thanks
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AOKP is AOSP with some mods, CM is a more heavily modified version of AOSP.
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Right, I knew that, but they are still not pure AOSP considering all of the mods put into the roms.
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Right, I knew that, but they are still not pure AOSP considering all of the mods put into the roms.
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The closest your going to get to aosp is cm10
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Andrew149 said:
The closest your going to get to aosp is cm10
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Second closest is NexusMod Zero
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842175
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I am having a hard time deciding if I want to go back to TW with stock JB. So far I am really happy with CM10 except for minor bugs here and there but what about you guys, Have you changed from CM10 to JB?
How do you like it?
Is it as fast and snappy'?
I miss the stock camera, the email layout, some gestures (txt to talk, Facebook integrated with contacts) and other lil' things here and there but that is about it.
Let me know.
I switched back. Its nice, smooth and snappy, but I do miss the vanilla aosp that cm10 delivers.....
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Just jumped from cm10 to this partly because ill be sending my phone to samsung soon. It is snappier if not the same than cm10. Quadrant score is 6100
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I like both will use TouchWiz JB when need complete stock everything working 100% and then go to AOSP/AOKP when I want to have more fun with themes and such.
Yep I switched. I had been using all of the JB Leaks and had strangely poor performance but recently was able to attribute that to the "media server" taking up a disproportionate amount of CPU time and I was able to fix that. Everything's good.
I tried out the stock OTA and then switched right back. IMO nothing beats this stable CM 10.0 build.
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I tried out the stock OTA and then switched right back. IMO nothing beats this stable CM 10.0 build.
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Except having a camera that can save to SD card, ammirite!!!
Kidding aside, I switched back from CM to stock just a few days before the JB update and am glad I did. I've always used CM ROMs with previous phones, but this was the first time that there were simply too many things that should just work right that simply were not working right. The stock JB is definitely snappy, camera is great, GPS works instantaneously (was another gripe I was having with CM).
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I switched back. Its nice, smooth and snappy, but I do miss the vanilla aosp that cm10 delivers.....
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Cyanogen Mod is not vanilla Android.
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I was wondering how people would compare stock android camera vs the galaxy s3 camera. To me it seems like you would be losing features if you switched to a AOSP based rom, atlease until they are based on 4.2.
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I did, couldn't handle Cyanosh*t mod
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I did, couldn't handle Cyanosh*t mod
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Hold on there Cyanogenmod is far from sh*t. They do us all a great service, for free, by giving us the ability to truely own our devices and customize it the way we want.
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Master_sk3 said:
I was wondering how people would compare stock android camera vs the galaxy s3 camera. To me it seems like you would be losing features if you switched to a AOSP based rom, atlease until they are based on 4.2.
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Correct, the stock camera has a lot more features, at least a lot more that comes with the CM10 rom
I thought about it but i have always been a sucker for AOKP and CM10 since the my touch 4g, the reason I bought this phone was the fact that Samsung is usually dev friendly and usually has aosp ROMs available
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Cyanogen Mod is not vanilla Android.
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Its the closest thing to vanilla aosp for sgs3. please enlighten me and let me know what you think is the closest...
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I did change from cm10 nightly to stock jb official because the features touchwiz have are just amazing.:thumbup:
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Touch wiz may be bloated.... But the features are awesome. The motion and sharing options are way ahead of stock Android. IMO not since HTC Hero has a "skin" actually added something good to android.
We can have most of the best features and still have tw options with jb roms. I don't see a benefit to running aosp on the s3.
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I switch between Official JB and CM10 Stable. Both are great and I just cant seem to settle.
Running the last nightly cm10
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Shayd93 said:
I did, couldn't handle Cyanosh*t mod
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Just because you couldn't handle it doesn't mean it's sh*t.. You need to know what you're doing. But it's okay if you're inexperienced, just don't bash something great because you don't know what you're doing.
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krackerjac said:
Its the closest thing to vanilla aosp for sgs3. please enlighten me and let me know what you think is the closest...
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Cyanogen Mod has plenty of stuff added, it is far from vanilla Android.
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Hi!
This is my first post on the xda Forums; I've just been a lurker for a while now. I am still learning the ins/outs of Smartphone modifications/rooting/roms etc, so forgive my noobyness.
I've recently (two days ago) Rooted my Rogers S3, and Flashed Paranoid Android 2.55 Onto it. I'm loving it! However The battery life is something I'm not too keen on, so I've been lurking google for hours upon hours, forums etc, and I'm seeing that a popular Kernal people are using to cut down on battery drainage + Smoothen things up, is LeanKernal.
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Now, I've poked around quite a bit, and I've read through something like 75+ pages of this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845836
But just for the sake of not Bricking my phone / Digging a hole I'm not educated enough to get myself out of; I'd like to ask:
Is LeanKernal what I am looking for/compatible with, my P.A flashed Rogers S3?
Or any other tips for me?
Much appreciated!
Lean kernel is compatible with AOSP ROMs. The developer should have a clearly-marked download link.
That being said - if you can't find the answer you're looking for by yourself, don't flash it. It's very easy to brick a device by making one small mistake.
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Cuddlesy said:
Lean kernel is compatible with AOSP ROMs. The developer should have a clearly-marked download link.
That being said - if you can't find the answer you're looking for by yourself, don't flash it. It's very easy to brick a device by making one small mistake.
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Lean kernel is designed for aosp ROMs but the new ones are based on a different Linux version. If you install paranoid android 2.55 with the newest lean kernel it will never boot. You need to either find am older lean kernel or flash the newest paranoidandroid.
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KorGuy123 said:
Lean kernel is designed for aosp ROMs but the new ones are based on a different Linux version. If you install paranoid android 2.55 with the newest lean kernel it will never boot. You need to either find am older lean kernel or flash the newest paranoidandroid.
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I read people were using lean kernel 1.6 for paranoid android. I'm more than willing to try another compatible kernel if anyone has suggestions for a smooth one that can help with battery life extension
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I read people were using lean kernel 1.6 for paranoid android. I'm more than willing to try another compatible kernel if anyone has suggestions for a smooth one that can help with battery life extension
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All the kernels get updated frequently. I'm using the Paranoidandroid 3.15beta and Tasks latest Underwear kernel and it's working fantastic.
Battery life if device, app and user specific so you'll have to just experiment.
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KorGuy123 said:
All the kernels get updated frequently. I'm using the Paranoidandroid 3.15beta and Tasks latest Underwear kernel and it's working fantastic.
Battery life if device, app and user specific so you'll have to just experiment.
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that's why I am asking for a recomendation based on what I'm currently using. rather than reflash a different ROM for the time being I'd like to find a kernal to use with what I have
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that's why I am asking for a recomendation based on what I'm currently using. rather than reflash a different ROM for the time being I'd like to find a kernal to use with what I have
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Edit.....
I don't think you can use that one. It's for 4.2 not 4.1
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KorGuy123 said:
Edit.....
I don't think you can use that one. It's for 4.2 not 4.1
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what would you recommend for 4.1 on a rogers S3?
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what would you recommend for 4.1 on a rogers S3?
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Go to settings > about phone. If android version is 4.1.2 use this. http://www.mediafire.com/?99f7dn0gya0bb20
This is the latest ktoonz kernel for 4.1.2
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Awesome. Ktoonz was another I had been looking into, and heard good things about; so thank you very much for your help Korguy123. It's appreciated, and sorry for my noobyness XD I'm working on Levelling up so to speak haha.
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Awesome. Ktoonz was another I had been looking into, and heard good things about; so thank you very much for your help Korguy123. It's appreciated, and sorry for my noobyness XD I'm working on Levelling up so to speak haha.
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Don't apologize. We all start somewhere. When I get off work I'll look into which lean kernel you can use. Give ktoonz a couple charge cycles to see how it's working before you start tweaking any of the performance settings.
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Hello I've been using touchwiz based roms and feel like using a more vanilla based ROM and was wondering what's the best build and that is glitch free. I'd greatly appreciate your commentary
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Hello I've been using touchwiz based roms and feel like using a more vanilla based ROM and was wondering what's the best build and that is glitch free. I'd greatly appreciate your commentary
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"Glitch Free" is a relative term. All 4.2.x Roms have some glitches, but there are many glitches that I overlook because they don't affect me.
That being said, the best way to find out which Rom you want to use is to try them out! The three that I always cycle through are:
LiquidSmooth (this is my base, I flash others to compare it to this)
Slim Bean
Carbon Rom
Now there are other ones that people have said good things about, including (but not limited to):
Deviant Xone
PAC Rom
Hope this helps, even though I basically just replicated the front page of the Original Android Sub-forum.
averymlewis said:
Hello I've been using touchwiz based roms and feel like using a more vanilla based ROM and was wondering what's the best build and that is glitch free. I'd greatly appreciate your commentary
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You can't really have a "best" ROM. The effectiveness of a ROM depends on the user. Every user has different needs. If you're looking for the most stable ROM out there, your best bet is staying on stock touchwiz. If you're looking to try out AOSP, you'll have to flash a couple of ROMs. I run Slim Bean build 3. The newest build is on Linux 3.4 and I have found bad battery life. Build 3 was released only a couple weeks ago. Using dkp kernel and Slim build 3, I have found these to be my "best" setup. I am finding very little bugs and I have great battery life and performance. You'll have to flash a few ROMs and kernels before you find out what works best for you. Have fun flashing! Good luck mate
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topherk said:
"Glitch Free" is a relative term. All 4.2.x Roms have some glitches, but there are many glitches that I overlook because they don't affect me.
That being said, the best way to find out which Rom you want to use is to try them out! The three that I always cycle through are:
LiquidSmooth (this is my base, I flash others to compare it to this)
Slim Bean
Carbon Rom
Now there are other ones that people have said good things about, including (but not limited to):
Deviant Xone
PAC Rom
Hope this helps, even though I basically just replicated the front page of the Original Android Sub-forum.
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+1 I'm partial to liquidsmooth for 4.2 right now
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@OP
If you're asking for a "best" ANYTHING, you should think twice before posting. As said, this is all relative. It depends on your usage, your definition of "stability", and what you consider to make something "good".
When I say the "best" I mean exactly what I said. What is the best to you and there are many ROMs that are very stable. But what's the most stable version of that ROM.
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To seek the impossible dream, to reach for the unreachable star,..... Your asking a question that only you can answer for yourself. If you search you will see this has been asked 100ds of times in these forums and most of these threads get locked.
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