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I watched a review of the HTC Desire HD and I gotta say the speed and smoothness of the device is much better than the Desire. I would love to see HTC do the same with the Desire, at least the smoothness in the browser since I can't really browse pages like www.aftonbladet.se without lag and stutter, Engadget.com works perfectly tho, but it's not as complex.
Probably because the HD has a second gen snapdragon with a better gpu. Also the new sense might have some enhancements.
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Probably because the HD has a second gen snapdragon with a better gpu. Also the new sense might have some enhancements.
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yeah the desire HD has a much more powerful cpu, the gpu dosent matter as much as android ui's have no hardware graphics acceleration yet
Then try the miui browser (in android themes and apps thread), works fine with your webpage.
The stock browser sucks.
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I watched a review of the HTC Desire HD and I gotta say the speed and smoothness of the device is much better than the Desire. I would love to see HTC do the same with the Desire, at least the smoothness in the browser since I can't really browse pages like www.aftonbladet.se without lag and stutter, Engadget.com works perfectly tho, but it's not as complex.
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Yeah the new Sense is slightly smoother but you have to agree that this site is crap. There's a limit for a mobile phone. Anyway, wait for Opera this week
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Yeah the new Sense is slightly smoother but you have to agree that this site is crap. There's a limit for a mobile phone. Anyway, wait for Opera this week
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Yes, the site is pretty crap, but if I compare the site on my iPod to the Desire, iPod doesn't lag at all.
No problems here with my Desire, the site loads smooth and scrolls like a rocket try a tweaked rom! i tink it is a mem problem. Good luck
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Yes, the site is pretty crap, but if I compare the site on my iPod to the Desire, iPod doesn't lag at all.
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ipod cant read flash.... turn off your flash plugin in setting then u will get it loads much faster
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ipod cant read flash.... turn off your flash plugin in setting then u will get it loads much faster
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I don't care about flash too much, and I have plugins turned permanent off. I's not a load issue but rather a unsmooth scrolling/stutter while scrolling on some webpages.
i told u try the miui browser and u will see how smooth aftonbladet.se runs.
so in fact it's a software problem. the hardware of the desire is strong enough.
the next sense update should fix this.
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i told u try the miui browser and u will see how smooth aftonbladet.se runs.
so in fact it's a software problem. the hardware of the desire is strong enough.
the next sense update should fix this.
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+1. the site runs as smooth as butter on MIUI browser.
Ouch, that site is a mess! It scrolls fine with cyanogenmod though. The resources used by the sense ui are probably enough to make a difference.
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I watched a review of the HTC Desire HD and I gotta say the speed and smoothness of the device is much better than the Desire. I would love to see HTC do the same with the Desire, at least the smoothness in the browser since I can't really browse pages like www.aftonbladet.se without lag and stutter, Engadget.com works perfectly tho, but it's not as complex.
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frightened who does admin on that site picture and flash overload.go to a gallery or watch news on TV instead freaking hell man
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m.aftonbladet.se is a million times better The news still sucks though!
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m.aftonbladet.se is a million times better The news still sucks though!
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Yeah I know, but I always enjoy reading news sites even if they suck. www.dn.se is quality if you want that.
It's smooth on opera mini
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i don't understand your judging the speed of the desire with one website that doesn't load up properly? doesn't make sense!? look at the benchmarks.
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i don't understand your judging the speed of the desire with one website that doesn't load up properly? doesn't make sense!? look at the benchmarks.
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It's just an example of many cluttered sites that slow up the Desire, obviously.
if you had a 1GHz pc with 512mb RAM i bet you would get the same performance. the issue may not be the desire but with the coding of the website itself. some are just poorly written.
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I watched a review of the HTC Desire HD and I gotta say the speed and smoothness of the device is much better than the Desire. I would love to see HTC do the same with the Desire, at least the smoothness in the browser since I can't really browse pages like www.aftonbladet.se without lag and stutter, Engadget.com works perfectly tho, but it's not as complex.
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Wow....this site....just wow...shoot the coder...
Alright, you're gonna be mad about the topic but I'm being honest here.
I never had a nexus phone and I was hoping that if I got a Galaxy Nexus, the phone wouldn't stutter (in browser and in apps) and it does. On websites the stuttering when scrolling is annoying. The phone is fast (home screen, app drawer, settings) but a lot of apps are jittery and not fluid.
I'm running AOKP Milestone 4 with Lean Kernel v2.4.
So my question is, is it possible to get the Galaxy Nexus to be as smooth as an iPhone? Some reasons would be good because there's no doubting the 4s is very fluid with rare if any hiccups.
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what apps...all mine are as smooth as the iphone.
AOKP is the king of extra features, but if you want smooth you should try Peter Alfonso's Bugless Beast.
The selling point if the iphone 4s is Suri.
My buddy tried to show it off and it didn't work at all.
He was really embarrassed.. It screwed up everything.
I showed him my nexus, and then I proceeded to pull 15 down 13 up in a speed test.
Boy was he jealous of my Nexus.
If all you care about is smooth scrolling, use the stock firmware. It's smoother than most ROMs, but lacks many features in the custom ROMs.
Don't forget, you're running a beta version of community created code. We don't have as much access to the hardware as the original designers, and can't optimize things as easily.
Whinging about it not being as smooth as an iPhone when you're running user created firmware is like complaining that the shelves you built yourself aren't as nice as the ones that your friend paid a professional carpenter to create.
AOKP runs great for most people, myself included, but there are tradeoffs for the extra features.
also, one more thing you gotta take into consideration is that aokp is more for customization. you want more of a rom that works only on stability. i havnt tried m4, but i do know that bamf is amazingly smooth. and alsooo when was the last time you saw the 4s? sure you can slide smoothly but doesnt it matter much more how quick you can load the page? try a diff browser also... mines working perfectly on google chrome and stock.
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If all you care about is smooth scrolling, use the stock firmware. It's smoother than most ROMs, but lacks many features in the custom ROMs.
Don't forget, you're running a beta version of community created code. We don't have as much access to the hardware as the original designers, and can't optimize things as easily.
Whinging about it not being as smooth as an iPhone when you're running user created firmware is like complaining that the shelves you built yourself aren't as nice as the ones that your friend paid a professional carpenter to create.
AOKP runs great for most people, myself included, but there are tradeoffs for the extra features.
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That's a poor analogy. The ROM devs are not building these ROMs from scratch, they are making relatively small changes to the code provided by Google. A better analogy would be assembling an office desk from IKEA (store that sells put-it-together-yourself furniture for you non-U.S. folk) vs having a carpenter friend put it together. Sure your friend might drill a hold here or there to make the fit better, but he isn't carving the shelf out of lumber.
-- also, one more thing you gotta take into consideration is that aokp is more for customization. you want more of a rom that works only on stability. i havnt tried m4, but i do know that bamf is amazingly smooth. and alsooo when was the last time you saw the 4s? sure you can slide smoothly but doesnt it matter much more how quick you can load the page? try a diff browser also... mines working perfectly on google chrome and stock. --
stock browser and chrome are jerky but the stock browser is a little better
Stock software was slow for me too, worse than AOKP M4
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-- what apps...all mine are as smooth as the iphone. --
XDA, web browser, maps
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-- AOKP is the king of extra features, but if you want smooth you should try Peter Alfonso's Bugless Beast. --
Ok I'll try bugless beast ans see if it helps
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android will never be as smooth as the iphone, its running a dalvik client
Do iPhone users just get Android phones and swipe and down all day to see how fluid it moves. You guys know there is much more to the phone then just scrolling pages up and down, right?
You also realize the device is pushing a higher resolution then an iPhone as well so a lot more pixels are in play.
Seriously, even if the GN scrolled smoother then it already does, I don't think I would really give a sh.t......It would not change my experience in the least.
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Not to mention iPhone 4S GPU absolutely blows away any other mobile GPU on the market, and on top of that pushes fewer pixels.
iPhone 4S is a graphical beast.
Have you turned on Hardware Acceleration in the Settings?
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Have you turned on Hardware Acceleration in the Settings?
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Yes, it's turned on
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Not to mention iPhone 4S GPU absolutely blows away any other mobile GPU on the market, and on top of that pushes fewer pixels.
iPhone 4S is a graphical beast.
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The iPhone 4 is smooth as well and the GPU isn't as good as the iPhone 4S
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Do iPhone users just get Android phones and swipe and down all day to see how fluid it moves. You guys know there is much more to the phone then just scrolling pages up and down, right?
You also realize the device is pushing a higher resolution then an iPhone as well so a lot more pixels are in play.
Seriously, even if the GN scrolled smoother then it already does, I don't think I would really give a sh.t......It would not change my experience in the least.
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Jerky scrolling is annoying (in the browser and in XDA app)...it's as if the frame rate is running at 20fps as opposed to 60fps
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android will never be as smooth as the iphone, its running a dalvik client
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If that's true then that sucks.
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If that's true then that sucks.
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of course its true, everything is in java
and of course don't forget about the fact that Android handles the UI in a different way compared to iOS (the UI isn't prioritised or something along those lines).
Hi, I sold my SGS2 and bought the One X thinking it would be at least a smooth as the SGS2.
But its not! I've installed the latest Leedroid without sense, but still in general the phone is laggy.
Especially when scrolling in apps and stuff.
Also Go Luancher EX, wich was the fastest on my SGS2 is so laggy, especially when scrolling in widgets like the calendar widget.
What's going on here, isn't this supposed to be a beast of a phone?!
It's not the phone it's the apps that are not optimised for ics. Had the same problem with the Nexus.
You will find that things improve over the next few months as developers update their apps and Google tweak ics.
I had the s2 too which was great but love the hox so much more.
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It's not the phone it's the apps that are not optimised for ics. Had the same problem with the Nexus.
You will find that things improve over the next few months as developers update their apps and Google tweak ics.
I had the s2 too which was great but love the hox so much more.
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Hmm ok.
I was actually thinking of selling it, and to go for the SGS3 when it comes out, but the problem could be the same on that phone then?
I tried it from shop and it was fast like a hellhound. Don't blame your phone if you are using custom ROM. It's new technology. Be patient. Okay I can't test it yet in long scale because it looks like my friend has signed my parcel. I gave my keys when I left the apartment. When weekend is over, I can tell my experience with this phone.
So long my gf is all I got...
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I agree with the previous comments, my one x had to be reset twice to factory because it had slowed down painfully slow in the first few days of ownership.
I've now only installed the apps that have been upgraded (check reviews for ics problems).
Since I've been more careful with the apps my phone has been flying with no slow downs in the last week.
I find it weird apps that are not running can affect the phone so badly, cest la vi.
Back up your files (even though you shouldn't lose them) and reset, you will be happy with the phone again
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Mine is extremely laggy when transitioning between screens although I'm now only using 3 screens with 2 sense widgets and a handful of shortcuts its still really choppy for what is supposed to be a really powerful phone
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I got no lag at all. Using sense, widgets on all screens, scrolls butter smooth between screens.
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Hi, I sold my SGS2 and bought the One X thinking it would be at least a smooth as the SGS2.
But its not! I've installed the latest Leedroid without sense, but still in general the phone is laggy.
Especially when scrolling in apps and stuff.
Also Go Luancher EX, wich was the fastest on my SGS2 is so laggy, especially when scrolling in widgets like the calendar widget.
What's going on here, isn't this supposed to be a beast of a phone?!
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Maybe you just search before posting. This might help you because it also affects custom roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599214
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Mine is extremely laggy when transitioning between screens although I'm now only using 3 screens with 2 sense widgets and a handful of shortcuts its still really choppy for what is supposed to be a really powerful phone
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This is the reason why mine isn't laggy anymore.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599214
Hit the thanks button and leave a reply if it helps
(don't understand why you folks don't search the forum before posting!!)
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Hi, I sold my SGS2 and bought the One X thinking it would be at least a smooth as the SGS2.
But its not! I've installed the latest Leedroid without sense, but still in general the phone is laggy.
Especially when scrolling in apps and stuff.
Also Go Luancher EX, wich was the fastest on my SGS2 is so laggy, especially when scrolling in widgets like the calendar widget.
What's going on here, isn't this supposed to be a beast of a phone?!
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How are you lagging on LeeDroid? It's smooth as butter for me.
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I swithed over to Apex launcher today. Took most of the day to get it all setup the way I like it. Apex runs very very smooth!!! Wigets on every screen.
Stock was sooooo laggy it was driving me crazy. You do lose alot of the sense wigets which sucks but I spend the day downloading and finding some good ones.
This should work for me if or until HTC fixes the issue.
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How are you lagging on LeeDroid? It's smooth as butter for me.
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Well Leedroid is fast, but I guess the problem is ICS. I mean the scrolling lag in many apps, including the widgets in my previous favo launcher: go launcher ex.
Nova is much smoother indeed, but the icons on homescreen are misaligned.
I mean they are to high, and at the bottom there's to much open space.
Is that the same for everybody?
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I got no lag at all. Using sense, widgets on all screens, scrolls butter smooth between screens.
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No lag on my stock One-X send very nice to me...
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As per the title, will I miss the Quad Core? Especially concerned about smoothness in the browser, for example scrolling when viewing flash elements is as if the flash element wasnt there on the One X.
Im considering the swap as I want a Nexus device for dev support and can have a bit of money left over for the next Nexus if I do this swap.
It will not be a regret! I was a fan of the build quality of the one x and its speed but the nexus with jb on it ownes the one x (in my opinion). Plus there is a port of HTC sense 4.0 if you are a fan of sense!
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It will not be a regret! I was a fan of the build quality of the one x and its speed but the nexus with jb on it ownes the one x (in my opinion). Plus there is a port of HTC sense 4.0 if you are a fan of sense!
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Thanks for the reply mate. How does the battery life compare (screen on times)? And does the Nexus feel "cheap" this is one criticism i see levelled at it a lot. I have the option of the S3 but that does look ugly and cheap (too much chrome and too much shine as well as too much plastic.)
I will miss the One X's looks but I love the look of the Nexus, particularly on the front.
Could you give me a test of browser/flash performance? How is it on the Youtube website scrolling when the video is playing? Are button presses on the flash object (like pressing play/mute/pause) instant? I'm a heavy flash user (cricket/football/Sky Sports streaming) so this is important to me.
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Thanks for the reply mate. How does the battery life compare (screen on times)? And does the Nexus feel "cheap" this is one criticism i see levelled at it a lot. I have the option of the S3 but that does look ugly and cheap (too much chrome and too much shine as well as too much plastic.)
I will miss the One X's looks but I love the look of the Nexus, particularly on the front.
Could you give me a test of browser/flash performance? How is it on the Youtube website scrolling when the video is playing? Are button presses on the flash object (like pressing play/mute/pause) instant? I'm a heavy flash user (cricket/football/Sky Sports streaming) so this is important to me.
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Extremely smooth. Flash hasn't been updated for jb. However you can still use the one for ICS. I haven't used flash but everything else works great. The battery life does fine.
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Extremely smooth. Flash hasn't been updated for jb. However you can still use the one for ICS. I haven't used flash but everything else works great. The battery life does fine.
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Could someone test out http://www.computerandvideogames.com/ website on desktop mode and let me know scrolling performance/scrolling lag on the Nexus?
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Could someone test out http://www.computerandvideogames.com/ website on desktop mode and let me know scrolling performance/scrolling lag on the Nexus?
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Tried the page u posted, no lag or stutters whatsoever. The galaxy nexus stock browser is one of the smoothest and quickest browsers out there, even back on ics days, no need to mention JB, everything just flies
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Tried the page u posted, no lag or stutters whatsoever. The galaxy nexus stock browser is one of the smoothest and quickest browsers out there, even back on ics days, no need to mention JB, everything just flies
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Brilliant. Just trying to think of things I could throw at you lot here - I know what works smooth on the One X and what doesn't. For one thing CVG on desktop mode would have lag from when you put your finger on the screen to the actual scroll taking place.
PCgamer.com was also similarly troublesome on the One X.
What "Screen On" times can I expect with a Nexus? I get 3/4 hours on the One X
You'll get comparable screen on times. Most people get in the three to four hour range. Some less though, and I have seen upwards of five plus hours. A lot will depend on your setup and kernel of choice.
The One X is a nice phone, one that would be tempting to me, as I do like Htc's build quality.
The Nexus doesn't feel overly cheap to me or like to much plastic. I think that may be due to the Glass front and I run a cover so that kinds of changes the feel of the textured back to me.
I do really like the dev community and support that the Nexus receives. One of the reasons that it would be hard for me to leave the Nexus.
Good luck in your choice.
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Brilliant. Just trying to think of things I could throw at you lot here - I know what works smooth on the One X and what doesn't. For one thing CVG on desktop mode would have lag from when you put your finger on the screen to the actual scroll taking place.
PCgamer.com was also similarly troublesome on the One X.
What "Screen On" times can I expect with a Nexus? I get 3/4 hours on the One X
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Trust me, i owned htc and samsung phones, and since my htc desire days i stopped using stock browsers and dolphin was the main one on all phones that followed. after getting the gnex i was still skeptical about stock browsers, but it's really the best browser i've tried so far, adding to it's speed all the cool stuff like guick controls and inverted screen rendering, u just can't go wrong with it. Furthermore the jelly bean experience is far away from anything available on any other android device out there. I posted a youtube link a while ago about a review for JB on gnex , a part of the review concentrates on browser performance, i'll post the link here as soon as i get to my pc (don't feel like searching over my phone)
Edit: as for screen on times, it depends if u're planing to get the gsm or cdma (verizon/sprint) version. I have a gsm one and on ics i used to get continuosly over 5hrs screen on. On jb it dropped to ~ 4-4.5 hrs , i think Google Now is eating the battery, (giving me navigation and calculating traffic to home) even though i don't need it, and actually i'm still enjoying all these JB features so i guess i'll turn some of those uneeded gnow cards OFF soon, pretty sure it'll improve my battery life more
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I've gotten the best battery life of any Android phone on this one.
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Guys you're being ridiculously helpful and I'm seriously tempted to jack in the One X and get the Nexus tomorrow even!
That review you mentioned above would be great to see.
What JB ROM/Kernel combo would you recommend and could you point me in the direction of the thinnest case for the back of the phone?
I'd be on GSM in the UK BTW.
Does overclocking to the 4460's 1.5ghz massively impact battery life? And how effective is undervolting? I've read you can UV the CPU/GPU and Screen as well as another chip?
For the fella above that had the ONE X would you say the camera/screen is markedly better on the HTC or is it negligible? Screen more important than camera to me.
Also is this colour accuracy patch still in use with many Kernels? The ONE X screen is streets ahead in terms of colour IMO and this seems to certainly help? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1521195
Lastly just to reaffirm, scrolling performance with a flash video playing is instantaneous?
Don't even need 1.5ghz. Its smooth at 1036mhz.
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here is the vid i mentioned , it was done on the developer preview 4.1, the official 4.1.1 has been furthermore polished
also take a look at this
as for overclock, u don't need it
I too have a HOX and ordered a Nexus the other night. It'll be here tomorrow. I can give you a hands-on account of the switch after that!
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I too have a HOX and ordered a Nexus the other night. It'll be here tomorrow. I can give you a hands-on account of the switch after that!
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What ROM are you running? I know HOX is getting JB but why keep it when I can have £100 spare and have a similar performing phone, with most support and instant AOSP pushes?
Please hurry with your account because I will probably be rushing off to make the exchange tomorrow myself! Haha
Achieved it yesterday. Well actually almost everyday. Stock jb with stock kernel. Only rooted deoxdexed, bigxie version. I don't use setcpu or anything. Gps and bluetooth on when needed. And since I don't use nfc, I turned it off and greatly improved the battery too. Auto sync are all on, auto-brightness n also plume updating every 30 minutes.
Btw, I use it alongside my one x too. The thing is, it's been 24 hours since I last touch my one x. Damn it that shows how much I love nexus and aosp! You won't regret it mate. I prefer using my nexus over one x in anything! Really tiring waiting for CM to come official for one x. Grrr...
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Achieved it yesterday. Well actually almost everyday. Stock jb with stock kernel. Only rooted deoxdexed, bigxie version. I don't use setcpu or anything. Gps and bluetooth on when needed. And since I don't use nfc, I turned it off and greatly improved the battery too. Auto sync are all on, auto-brightness n also plume updating every 30 minutes.
Btw, I use it alongside my one x too. The thing is, it's been 24 hours since I last touch my one x. Damn it that shows how much I love nexus and aosp! You won't regret it mate. I prefer using my nexus over one x in anything! Really tiring waiting for CM to come official for one x. Grrr...
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How much difference is there between the screen and camera? Can you see pixels on the screen of the nexus being pentile or is it as pin sharp as the One X (which looks like a magazine print to be honest).
How would you rate performance of the Nexus in relation to the One X ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMusBwaMKMw
The lag here worries me, its definitely not like that on the One X with ICS its butter smooth
You won't miss a damn thing. Go for it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMusBwaMKMw
The lag here worries me, its definitely not like that on the One X with ICS its butter smooth
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That guy is a moron. Also, full YouTube can make some desktops cry.
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I can't say on the Stock Browser with Ics, as I was using Chrome. But on JB with the stock browser, I just opened Youtube, and had no lag at all. Very smooth. I've been really impressed with the improvements to the Stock Browser in JB. I tried Chrome, and it was choppy. With the performance of the Stock Browser, I see no reason to use anything else now though.
What everyone else has said about not needing to overclock. Very true. I run at 1036 with no issues. I will push it up to 1500 if I want to run a bench test, but other than that, there really is no reason for me to OC.
The Gpu can be OC'd. I haven't noticed a lot of difference between 384 and 512. I don't play a lot of labor intense games though. Jelly Defense and Ski Safari are the only two games I have installed at the moment. Even the stock 307 setting works fine for these.
I have tried a few of the Kernels, but have been using Trinity exclusively now for the past few months both on Ics and now on Jb. It's all subjective to personal taste though. If you make the switch, there are many Kernels and roms to choose from, all with there pluses.
I've got a One X and a nexus 7, I'm running the same live wallpaper on both (flames) and on the N7 it is silky smooth yet on the One X it stutters every now and then... Now is this due to the so called project butter in jelly bean? Or could there be another reason?
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I've got a One X and a nexus 7, I'm running the same live wallpaper on both (flames) and on the N7 it is silky smooth yet on the One X it stutters every now and then... Now is this due to the so called project butter in jelly bean? Or could there be another reason?
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Possibly, there is a rom right now with Project Butter hacks enabled on it called OrdroidX, been using it for the past few days and it's been brilliant. This should go in the Q&A section though.
Stuttering problems with live wallpapers was fixed in sense 4.1
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Stuttering problems with live wallpapers was fixed in sense 4.1
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yup lol my one x on Sense 4.1 is smoother and faster than my over hyped Nexus7
yes the N7's launcher and transitions are smooth but man that thing is slow to a crawl when you multitask
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... the N7's launcher and transitions are smooth but man that thing is slow to a crawl when you multitask
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Think there might be something wrong with your N7 there buddy.
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Think there might be something wrong with your N7 there buddy.
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read my lips "multitask and jumping between apps"
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read my lips "multitask and jumping between apps"
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Haven't experienced any slowdown on my n7 either. What sort of apps you running? Must say I'm so impressed with how smooth and fast the n7 is that I'm starting to think there is something wrong with my one X.
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eightlegs said:
Haven't experienced any slowdown on my n7 either. What sort of apps you running? Must say I'm so impressed with how smooth and fast the n7 is that I'm starting to think there is something wrong with my one X.
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the LAG thread --__--
Cleargrey said:
I don't know if this has been mentioned and I have only skipped through the thread and done a quick search, so forgive me if this has been spoken about already. The issue most people are facing is probably hardware. It's explained in depth on the Anandtech review, page 6 "NAND and WIFI performance".
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6073/the-google-nexus-7-review/6
Basically, the memory chips are low quality and can suffer badly when read/writing. I say badly, though not as badly as the TF700. This was explicitly the reason I didn't buy the Infinity because I couldn't justify spending that amount of cash on something so beautiful that is severely hampered by something that, for my uses, will hamper me quite a bit. So to put a good spin on it, the Nexus 7 costs less that half the price of the Infinity and has better read/write performance. And my G.Nex is better than both!
So the software/app changes are merely toning down a hardware issue. I'm not going to say "fault" because it was a cost choice by Asus and we know the Nexus 7 is relatively cheap. Why they made a similar choice in the Transformer line is beyond me.
Just turned off all updates for Currents. We'll see how it helps me.
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Cool thanks for that. So all being said my HOX should be better than the n7 but it simply isn't. I love this phone but fear I have been excusing its flaws far too long. Time to get a replacement I think.
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Since I also own a Nexus 7 and a One X, I ran two benchmarks, AnTuTu and Quadrant. The I/O performance in AnTuTu was almost the same, just like the other results. In Quadrant the results were completely different, the I/O score on the result on the One X was in the 9000 and on the Nexus 7 it was around 1900, almost 5 times lower. What to trust, we're do these huge differences come from? Is Quadrant not suited for Jelly Bean?
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Since I also own a Nexus 7 and a One X, I ran two benchmarks, AnTuTu and Quadrant. The I/O performance in AnTuTu was almost the same, just like the other results. In Quadrant the results were completely different, the I/O score on the result on the One X was in the 9000 and on the Nexus 7 it was around 1900, almost 5 times lower. What to trust, we're do these huge differences come from? Is Quadrant not suited for Jelly Bean?
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Well, it depends what you test. If you test sequential read, you'll get one characteristic, if you test 4KB random write, you'll get something very different.
I have a class 6 SD card that's 1000 times faster in iops (4KB random write) than another more expensive class 10 card from the same manufacturer. Of course, the other can sequential read about twice mine. The differences are more than surprising.
I have a galaxy nexus and, yes, it is smoother with JB. The one x will be smoother too, once it gets it.
eightlegs said:
Cool thanks for that. So all being said my HOX should be better than the n7 but it simply isn't. I love this phone but fear I have been excusing its flaws far too long. Time to get a replacement I think.
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awesome one nagger out! :good:
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wph said:
Since I also own a Nexus 7 and a One X, I ran two benchmarks, AnTuTu and Quadrant. The I/O performance in AnTuTu was almost the same, just like the other results. In Quadrant the results were completely different, the I/O score on the result on the One X was in the 9000 and on the Nexus 7 it was around 1900, almost 5 times lower. What to trust, we're do these huge differences come from? Is Quadrant not suited for Jelly Bean?
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check thread and nevermind the testes
everyone complaining from the same thing on the N7
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Dr.Paul said:
I have a galaxy nexus and, yes, it is smoother with JB. The one x will be smoother too, once it gets it.
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galaxy nexus funny enough is currently the fasted JB device in terms of UI, like i said T3 is crippled by the IO on the N7
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and i dont get the point of this thread, we all know that the 4.0.4 Sense 4.1 update brought the UI to project butter 60fps smooth level and the entire phone is brisk now
hamdir said:
and i dont get the point of this thread, we all know that the 4.0.4 Sense 4.1 update brought the UI to project butter 60fps smooth level and the entire phone is brisk now
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Really? I'd agree about not really seeing the point of this thread but I still find Sense 4.1 pretty 'stuttery' (not actual overall performance, just the transitions) compared to AOSP - especially things like the way Sense doesn't always bother doing the app draw appearance animation, or only does about 5 frames of it. It's a shame really, given that I actually quite like using it, and I really miss the camera.
The funny thing is that when I first got the HOX I thought it was really fast relative to what came before and couldn't understand why you were complaining about Rosie not running smoothly and patching the launcher to flatten it out! It all depends on your point of reference, I suppose - and mine has changed since using AOSP 4.1 on this particular device.
Azurael said:
Really? I'd agree about not really seeing the point of this thread but I still find Sense 4.1 pretty 'stuttery' (not actual overall performance, just the transitions) compared to AOSP - especially things like the way Sense doesn't always bother doing the app draw appearance animation, or only does about 5 frames of it. It's a shame really, given that I actually quite like using it, and I really miss the camera.
The funny thing is that when I first got the HOX I thought it was really fast relative to what came before and couldn't understand why you were complaining about Rosie not running smoothly and patching the launcher to flatten it out! It all depends on your point of reference, I suppose - and mine has changed since using AOSP 4.1 on this particular device.
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yes it was a stuttery n no longer after the update, its not JB locked smooth on all fronts, transitions are 60fps just the few odd places where its not as smooth, n my point of reference is my native JB nexus 7
ur really willing to loose all functionality of sense including camera for the last 10% of smooth? and this is not sense fault, its an issue ICS as the entire android world knows already and hence JB's project butter
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yes it was a stuttery n no longer after the update, its not JB locked smooth on all fronts, transitions are 60fps just the few odd places where its not as smooth, n my point of reference is my native JB nexus 7
ur really willing to loose all functionality of sense including camera for the last 10% of smooth? and this is not sense fault, its an issue ICS as the entire android world knows already and hence JB's project butter
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Actually, it is Sense. I was just trying one of the new CM9 builds out, and it's still markedly smoother scrolling around in the app draw, up and down settings, through home screens, around web pages, etc.
Unless you know of a Sense 4.1 ROM that's smoother than the latest Ordroid or ViperX? I suppose it is just a matter of getting used to it - as I said, it's purely cosmetic. I just really notice the micro-stutter and really inconsistent framerates when scrolling around. Actual app launches and most of the functionality are actually faster in an hTC-based ICS ROM than in JB...
All using faux123's latest, obviously
OK, i agree that on the begining HTC make a "Half X" and it was everything but not smooth ... but what are you guys want now? I mean, fo what are you guys using your phone, scrolling the whole day thrue the appdrawer and if it stutters going straight to xda and crying over HTC?
If you ask me, i have a great phone now that can handle every app and game out there
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the LAG thread --__--
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Yep, If you do anything on the nexus 7 that involves accessing the memory it will slow down. I really dislike the n7 because of this but the price is still reasonable for what you're getting. It's my comic book reader, movie viewer so I don't mind if it lags doing other stuff.
Feepitee said:
Possibly, there is a rom right now with Project Butter hacks enabled on it called OrdroidX, been using it for the past few days and it's been brilliant. This should go in the Q&A section though.
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No there isn't it isn't "project butter" at all its a few build prop tweaks which must custom roms have by default
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Yup someone just posted a lag fix for the nexus 7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875712