Talk about a let down, we were so close to having this thing on our E4GT but it seems to have never been fixed. Now there is TWRP 2.1 and still no dice. I've never been a fan of CWM and I'm getting jealous of all the cool touch recoveries my brother has on his evo 3d. Don't get me started on CWM Touch, lol.
Maybe if we got together and shown that we still want this it could happen? The whole idea of the recovery rewriting itself after every flash was pretty cool.
I had read on one of the developers twitter that twrp had broken up. I also heard they were going to release the code for it for others to use but don't quote me on that.also that developer said he was working on a completely new kind of recovery
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Agrabren was the member of Team Win that Rootzwiki gave the E4GT to from our phone winning the poll. Then a month or so later Agrabren and Team Win parted ways, before TWRP was functional on our phone. Since then, Agrabren has been working on his own recovery project called Phoenix. So, who knows if our phone will ever see TWRP support, and who knows what if anything Agrabren ever did with his E4GT.
Links with some details:
http://phx-recovery.blogspot.com/2012/01/twrp-final-chapter.html
http://www.teamw.in/blog/15
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Agrabren was the member of Team Win that Rootzwiki gave the E4GT to from our phone winning the poll. Then a month or so later Agrabren and Team Win parted ways, before TWRP was functional on our phone. Since then, Agrabren has been working on his own recovery project called Phoenix. So, who knows if our phone will ever see TWRP support, and who knows what if anything Agrabren ever did with his E4GT.
Links with some details:
http://phx-recovery.blogspot.com/2012/01/twrp-final-chapter.html
http://www.teamw.in/blog/15
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Cool, thanks for the info!
Dchibro said:
Agrabren was the member of Team Win that Rootzwiki gave the E4GT to from our phone winning the poll. Then a month or so later Agrabren and Team Win parted ways, before TWRP was functional on our phone. Since then, Agrabren has been working on his own recovery project called Phoenix. So, who knows if our phone will ever see TWRP support, and who knows what if anything Agrabren ever did with his E4GT.
Links with some details:
http://phx-recovery.blogspot.com/2012/01/twrp-final-chapter.html
http://www.teamw.in/blog/15
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Thanks for the info. I asked about this in a thread yesterday but nobody answered.
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Wish we could just get CWM Touch to work so then Rogue could do his thing with it.
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Wish we could just get CWM Touch to work so then Rogue could do his thing with it.
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I actually put the new TWRP 2.1 on my Nexus and had a problem flashing within the first 24 hours so I went back to the touch recovery which has been flawless on that phone. I would like to see the issues ironed out myself
TWRP 2.0 hard-bricked my original Evo 4G, as it did many other Evos. It will be a cold day in hell if I ever install anything from Team Win on my phones.
However, this whole idea of touch recoveries really baffles me. I am obviously not new to the touch recovery idea, and I agree that it's nicer, but the question is; what is the big deal? If you are a "flashaholic" (I hate that term), you may go into recovery a few times a week, and all you're doing is clearing caches and flashing a new ROM, mod, etc. So does the extra 60 seconds that it takes to fiddle with the volume and power buttons make that big of a difference? I am perfectly happy with a regular recovery that is known to work without problems. So what is this whole deal about "being jealous of all of the cool touch recoveries." I mean honestly, of all of the things to be jealous about, you guys occupy your minds with a touch recovery.
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TWRP 2.0 hard-bricked my original Evo 4G, as it did many other Evos. It will be a cold day in hell if I ever install anything from Team Win on my phones.
However, this whole idea of touch recoveries really baffles me. I am obviously not new to the touch recovery idea, and I agree that it's nicer, but the question is; what is the big deal? If you are a "flashaholic" (I hate that term), you may go into recovery a few times a week, and all you're doing is clearing caches and flashing a new ROM, mod, etc. So does the extra 60 seconds that it takes to fiddle with the volume and power buttons make that big of a difference? I am perfectly happy with a regular recovery that is known to work without problems. So what is this whole deal about "being jealous of all of the cool touch recoveries." I mean honestly, of all of the things to be jealous about, you guys occupy your minds with a touch recovery.
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I only like it to save the wear and tear on my volume rocker but I don't flash ROMs on my Epic Touch near as much as on my Nexus so that really doesn't come into play. I actually went back to good old regular CWM5 when I flashed 4.0.4 on my NS4G and its just as good. When I tried to flash a ROM with TWRP 2.1 this morning it hung at the splash screen. I used Flash Image GUI to put touch recovery on since I had the img and the same ROM zip flashed with no problems
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TWRP 2.0 hard-bricked my original Evo 4G, as it did many other Evos. It will be a cold day in hell if I ever install anything from Team Win on my phones.
However, this whole idea of touch recoveries really baffles me. I am obviously not new to the touch recovery idea, and I agree that it's nicer, but the question is; what is the big deal? If you are a "flashaholic" (I hate that term), you may go into recovery a few times a week, and all you're doing is clearing caches and flashing a new ROM, mod, etc. So does the extra 60 seconds that it takes to fiddle with the volume and power buttons make that big of a difference? I am perfectly happy with a regular recovery that is known to work without problems. So what is this whole deal about "being jealous of all of the cool touch recoveries." I mean honestly, of all of the things to be jealous about, you guys occupy your minds with a touch recovery.
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Im jealous because the geek in me says "wow, thats cool". But really the redeeming quality of TWRP2 to me was that you wouldn't have to worry about bundling the recovery with the kernel anymore. That is an annoyance with this phone that I flat out do not like.
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Im jealous because the geek in me says "wow, thats cool". But really the redeeming quality of TWRP2 to me was that you wouldn't have to worry about bundling the recovery with the kernel anymore. That is an annoyance with this phone that I flat out do not like.
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That's an interesting point, and it was something that I didn't expect when I first came to the E4GT from the Evo. However, if the phone is designed to have the kernel bundled with the recovery, perhaps it's best not to mess with it. I do agree that it's annoying to have to have the bundle, but if it's true what you said about TWRP not being bundled with a kernel, this makes me even more weary of trying it out.
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That's an interesting point, and it was something that I didn't expect when I first came to the E4GT from the Evo. However, if the phone is designed to have the kernel bundled with the recovery, perhaps it's best not to mess with it. I do agree that it's annoying to have to have the bundle, but if it's true what you said about TWRP not being bundled with a kernel, this makes me even more weary of trying it out.
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I am curious about this now too! I know that CWM backups don't show in TWRP. It has its own folder but I don't know if the kernel/recovery being bundled is phone specific or if TWRP is truly separate
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I am curious about this now too! I know that CWM backups don't show in TWRP. It has its own folder but I don't know if the kernel/recovery being bundled is phone specific or if TWRP is truly separate
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Supposedly the way it worked was no matter what kernel or recovery you flashed, TWRP rewrote itself after every flash, thus giving you TWRP all the time. I think thats how I understood it.
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Supposedly the way it worked was no matter what kernel or recovery you flashed, TWRP rewrote itself after every flash, thus giving you TWRP all the time. I think thats how I understood it.
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Ok, that makes sense. But if that's what happens, then it's really no different than you flashing a new kernel/recovery package after each new ROM flash, it's just that this step is done for you automatically. I've been doing to ODIN leaks for a long time now so I don't remember how typical 3rd party ROMs are packaged, but does each ROM come with it's own kernel/recovery, or is it standalone? I know that with the Evo, you would flash a ROM and the kernel if you wanted to, but the recovery was untouched. Here, I think I typically flashed a ROM, and then kernel/recovery package right after, so the process is really no different from the Evo. I just kept the Rogue package on my SD card. And a second point, let's say that what you are saying is true, that TWRP rewrites itself after every flash, then how do you get rid of it if you want something else? I personally don't really like the idea of turning control of my device to some automated code.
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Ok, that makes sense. But if that's what happens, then it's really no different than you flashing a new kernel/recovery package after each new ROM flash, it's just that this step is done for you automatically. I've been doing to ODIN leaks for a long time now so I don't remember how typical 3rd party ROMs are packaged, but does each ROM come with it's own kernel/recovery, or is it standalone? I know that with the Evo, you would flash a ROM and the kernel if you wanted to, but the recovery was untouched. Here, I think I typically flashed a ROM, and then kernel/recovery package right after, so the process is really no different from the Evo. I just kept the Rogue package on my SD card. And a second point, let's say that what you are saying is true, that TWRP rewrites itself after every flash, then how do you get rid of it if you want something else? I personally don't really like the idea of turning control of my device to some automated code.
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Yea I was wondering that myself, the bit about how to get rid of it. I would assume there would be an option to not rewrite somewhere in the interface. I guess we will never know lol.
I love twrp on my evo 3d its awesome. I would love to see it on this phone or perhaps phoenix
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So far I have zero complaints about this phone, there are some ui things I would like fixed, and I know can be fixed via rooting, but they just don't seem to be enough to push me over the edge. I have files downloaded and ready to go, but just can't seem to take the plunge. I thought I had my first los today, but the phone recovered as soon as I was back in signal(if it hadn't that would have done it).
So why should I root?
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You can always revert back to the stock kernel if you have an issue (or have them that frequently that you can't stand it). Anybody who thinks that once you root there is no way to go back is an idiot. "lol, I got no LOS then I rooted and even though I put stock kernel back its all [email protected] lol" not true.
I got 2 LOS in the first week stock...rooted...got a bit more than usual, but nothing crazy. Flashed stock kernel back, still rooted, didn't have another for a few weeks until I flashed a new kernel...flashed back, have had none...etc etc etc, YMMV, but, umm, I don't think you have anything to be afraid of. Just know what you are doing...don't just flash stuff and figure it out later. Know why you want something and how to 'put it back'...also having/making a USB jig would be a good idea, but not necessary.
You can get them for like $3 on amazon or build one with a microUSB cable and $1 worth of stuff from radioshack.
I don't know about you but I certainly didn't get this phone to NOT mod it.
I didn't get the phone to keep it stock, not really worried about los, it recovers after flying for 2 hours with no signal, rooting shouldn't make much difference., planning on using viperom and lostkernel.
Maybe tomorrow I will root
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flyboy1100 said:
I didn't get the phone to keep it stock, not really worried about los, it recovers after flying for 2 hours with no signal, rooting shouldn't make much difference., planning on using viperom and lostkernel.
Maybe tomorrow I will root
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The only thing I can tell you is that read the directions and understand ODIN for all of the ODIN stuff you do. That is one of the ways you can brick the fnck out of this phone...not paying attention in ODIN. Don't write a partition if you are not told to...and try to only use it to flash a kernel+CWM and flash everything else from CWM if and when possible.
If you aren't worried about LOS (and it is real and under the right circumstances it'll effect every phone...reboot...no big deal...if it is flash a pulled stock kernel) then go for it.
I haven't tried ViperROM on this phone yet, but, I can tell you from my time with the E3D that kid knows what he's doin'....I'm sure this ROM is no different and I've heard nothing but great things about the LoST kernel.
If you don't want to root, don't. Why would anyone want to pressure you?
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Tell us how it goes. You won't be disappointed.
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If U need convincing, you probably don't need it.
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Someone convince me to strangle my puppy. I love him and all and he is very well mannered but if you guys can talk me into strangling him, I will.
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If U need convincing, you probably don't need it.
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I agree. You root cause u want to. If u want someone to convince u then maybe u shouldn't.
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I don't understand why some people view this almost like losing their virginity, trying a drug or robbing a liquor store. It's a very well understood technical process with very specific pros and cons that are also very well understood.
Yep. First android phone for me, and I bought it with the full intention of making it MY phone. After all, they are basically an additional limb for most people, no? (I'd say if you're registered with xda that is most likely the case! ) So you might as well go balls to the walls, right? If you're not into that kind of thing, then keep it stock! This phone is AMAZING just sitting at the home screen...it looks awesome! It is a great piece of technology, with plenty of great features and capability, and will serve you very well whether its rooted or not. Good luck with whatever you do!
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If you don't want to root, don't. Why would anyone want to pressure you?
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Not looking for pressure. I will probably root it tomorrow or next week
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Because all the cool kids are doing it!
I broke down and did it yesterday when someone said viper ROM solved his app freezing due to using a ton of CPU usage bug. So far, so good.
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OP if you are on EG30 baseband could you extract the modem.bin file for us so we could test it?
I would just stay stock. Honestly, no offense to the developers, but there is just nothing substantial out there. If you want a couple of different themes, you could consider rooting, but other than that every ROM I have flashed provided close to nothing really.
I mean, what? Battery percentage mod? Removed CIQ? "Speed" tweaks? A reboot option?
Nothing made this phone faster or more efficient than stock touchWiz. There is no real difference except that people like to flash, so they would flash anything.
Sorry. That's just my take on it.
Wait for MIUI or CM.
I gotta say i miss root, I was finicky on rooting my epic 4g ad once I did, oooh lord I never looked back , of course I've stumbled into troubles but following directions, I got back on track and learned a few this gs along the way, now what's stopping me on rooting the ET4G is not having the actual way to go back to full true stock,like we were able to do on the epic 4g with using Odin, giving you a factory full stock phone , or any older device, since we don't have true stock roms and kernels, unless I'm wrong g of course and I've been missing out! If so direct me!
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I gotta say i miss root, I was finicky on rooting my epic 4g ad once I did, oooh lord I never looked back , of course I've stumbled into troubles but following directions, I got back on track and learned a few this gs along the way, now what's stopping me on rooting the ET4G is not having the actual way to go back to full true stock,like we were able to do on the epic 4g with using Odin, giving you a factory full stock phone , or any older device, since we don't have true stock roms and kernels, unless I'm wrong g of course and I've been missing out! If so direct me!
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We have stock roms to ODIN, but it's not factory stock. We have the factory stock kernel that was pulled from a stock phone. What we lack is an OEM RUU to make it 100%-in-every-way-stock.
That said, I have trashed my 4G and wifi somehow on multiple occasions due to rampant recklessness on my part. I just factory-wiped (apparently...I don't remember that part but I must have) and flashed the ODIN rooted stock (with stock kernel) and it fixes everything every time.
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We have stock roms to ODIN, but it's not factory stock. We have the factory stock kernel that was pulled from a stock phone. What we lack is an OEM RUU to make it 100%-in-every-way-stock.
That said, I have trashed my 4G and wifi somehow on multiple occasions due to rampant recklessness on my part. I just factory-wiped (apparently...I don't remember that part but I must have) and flashed the ODIN rooted stock (with stock kernel) and it fixes everything every time.
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So then you recommend rooting this early?
i rooted so i could have wifi tethering and control over CPU speeds (via setcpu) in addition, there's some neat functionality that starburst ROM allows:
- better lock screens
- motion controlled silencing of phone
- battery % viewing
some people care about the speed tweaks (i haven't noticed any speed increase) and ciq (i don't really care for this), but there are several reasons to root. that being said, if you don't need the additional functionality of the phone, then preserve your phone's warranty!
Yea I'd say stay stock in terms of the ROM and kernel, but hell yea why not root? Right now I'm running stock kernel with CWM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305099) and the stock ROM with root and busybox (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282415) and I love it. I was running Midnight ROM but I went back to stock to see if that helped the LoS issues at all. If you're like me and really just want control over the hotspot feature and CPU underclocking (things of that nature) then def go stock rooted fo shoski.
It should be here Tuesday. Been doing some homework, however, some quick Q's for you pros.
I'm coming from an HTC Evo4G and Evo3D, so Odin is somewhat unfamiliar...
What is the "best" root method?
Is most everything on the Epic similar to that of the Fascinate? I've rooted and flashed MIUI on one of those...
Anything I need to avoid like the plague????
Thanks!!!!
monkeybone12 said:
It should be here Tuesday. Been doing some homework, however, some quick Q's for you pros.
I'm coming from an HTC Evo4G and Evo3D, so Odin is somewhat unfamiliar...
What is the "best" root method?
Is most everything on the Epic similar to that of the Fascinate? I've rooted and flashed MIUI on one of those...
Anything I need to avoid like the plague????
Thanks!!!!
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You might want to look into QBKing77's videos, it'll probably help you out a lot.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6B97247164921053&feature=plcp
Also, if you go into the development section and look around a bit, you'll be able to find useful things, as well as answers to questions you may have, quite quickly.
Hope it helps, and enjoy this awesome phone!
monkeybone12 said:
It should be here Tuesday. Been doing some homework, however, some quick Q's for you pros.
I'm coming from an HTC Evo4G and Evo3D, so Odin is somewhat unfamiliar...
What is the "best" root method?
Is most everything on the Epic similar to that of the Fascinate? I've rooted and flashed MIUI on one of those...
Anything I need to avoid like the plague????
Thanks!!!!
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Touch recovery unless u like pretty bricks lol, i came from og evo and used oneclick odin and auto root to root my et4g only took about 10mins search the dev thread for them they were buried a little ways down when i rooted on friday and i had to read for a cpl hours to familiarize my self with all the new terms and the real differnces in the setup of this phone vs the evo but i previously owned a samsung intercept which was similar in setup so a refresher was all i really needed and familiarizing myself with the updated methods (odin vs swupdater) etc
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Touch recovery unless u like pretty bricks lol, i came from og evo and used oneclick odin and auto root to root my et4g only took about 10mins search the dev thread for them they were buried a little ways down when i rooted on friday and i had to read for a cpl hours to familiarize my self with all the new terms and the real differnces in the setup of this phone vs the evo but i previously owned a samsung intercept which was similar in setup so a refresher was all i really needed and familiarizing myself with the updated methods (odin vs swupdater) etc
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I use Touch Recovery and I have no issues at all..
Mark.J.Linskiy said:
You might want to look into QBKing77's videos, it'll probably help you out a lot.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6B97247164921053&feature=plcp
Also, if you go into the development section and look around a bit, you'll be able to find useful things, as well as answers to questions you may have, quite quickly.
Hope it helps, and enjoy this awesome phone!
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Thanks a bunch! Been looking through the wiki and development. Looking like some great Devs on this phone!
-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Touch recovery unless u like pretty bricks lol, i came from og evo and used oneclick odin and auto root to root my et4g only took about 10mins search the dev thread for them they were buried a little ways down when i rooted on friday and i had to read for a cpl hours to familiarize my self with all the new terms and the real differnces in the setup of this phone vs the evo but i previously owned a samsung intercept which was similar in setup so a refresher was all i really needed and familiarizing myself with the updated methods (odin vs swupdater) etc
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Using Touch Recovery on my Evo4G, LOVE IT!
Thanks for the heads up on the auto root method, sounds up my alley coming from revolutionary and unr3voked.
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Thanks a bunch! Been looking through the wiki and development. Looking like some great Devs on this phone!
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No problem.
There are definitely great Developers on this phone.
My personal favorite ROM is by Rujelus22, he also just released a Beta Kernel with Touch Recovery.
Good Luck!
the "Touch Recovery" as long as you use one that is baked into a kernel is fine (ie rogue Hitman Kernel) Part of the issue at least with everything I've been reading is that when people use the "TEMP" touch (from say the clockwork app in market that allow a "temporary" touch recovery to be put in place) is when a lot of people have had issues. I use the Hitman repack and I've yet to experience any issues with it ever.
As for rooting the phone I do it the tried and true way always with Odin. I kept a Stock EG30 (what this phone came with at launch) Odin restore on my computer with sfhub's auto root. It takes a few longer to do a root process (I do believe that sf made a EG30 auto root that comes in Odin form Odin that and you have root with busybox and superuser)
Like I said I just go about it differently. That's how I root my friends phones and they don't mind the few extra minutes or so that it takes cause once it's done they have a phone always in 100% working order and ready to go.
Touch recovery bricks when you try to come back to GB from ics through cwm.
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Touch recovery bricks when you try to come back to GB from ics through cwm.
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Thanks for the heads up.
cidica said:
the "Touch Recovery" as long as you use one that is baked into a kernel is fine (ie rogue Hitman Kernel) Part of the issue at least with everything I've been reading is that when people use the "TEMP" touch (from say the clockwork app in market that allow a "temporary" touch recovery to be put in place) is when a lot of people have had issues. I use the Hitman repack and I've yet to experience any issues with it ever.
As for rooting the phone I do it the tried and true way always with Odin. I kept a Stock EG30 (what this phone came with at launch) Odin restore on my computer with sfhub's auto root. It takes a few longer to do a root process (I do believe that sf made a EG30 auto root that comes in Odin form Odin that and you have root with busybox and superuser)
Like I said I just go about it differently. That's how I root my friends phones and they don't mind the few extra minutes or so that it takes cause once it's done they have a phone always in 100% working order and ready to go.
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I'd love a link if you have any handy.
Odin did seem pretty simple when I've used it before. What is this I keep reading about a flash count? Is there a limited time you can flash roms?
monkeybone12 said:
I'd love a link if you have any handy.
Odin did seem pretty simple when I've used it before. What is this I keep reading about a flash count? Is there a limited time you can flash roms?
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there is a counter in the bootloader. After a non standard ROM is flashed, the counter is triggered and you get the "triangle of shame" that let's service people know you've flashed a ROM on your phone / voided your warranty. A USB jig can reset the triangle and the counter. you can get 'em on Amazon, Ebay, or you can make a jug for next to nothing...
Good luck and welcome to the fold! You're gonna love it!
P.S. I'm a firm proponent of the 4.0 Blazer ROM. Buttery smooth fast and great battery life... (FB15 modem)
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there is a counter in the bootloader. After a non standard ROM is flashed, the counter is triggered and you get the "triangle of shame" that let's service people know you've flashed a ROM on your phone / voided your warranty. A USB jig can reset the triangle and the counter. you can get 'em on Amazon, Ebay, or you can make a jug for next to nothing...
Good luck and welcome to the fold! You're gonna love it!
P.S. I'm a firm proponent of the 4.0 Blazer ROM. Buttery smooth fast and great battery life... (FB15 modem)
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Oh, THAT'S ALL? Lol... I was thinking it was something different.
It should be here in a matter of 12-16 hours... Freaking stoked. Thanks for the Rom recommendation! Looking to try a few off of the bat. MIUI has always been one of my faves, but 4.0 Blazer will be flashed too!
I came from the evo too this phone was a little confusing at first but a little reading and it makes sense real quick ive settled on team nocturnals dark ics blend rom with stock kernel and fb21 modem and im getting about 6-8hrs screen on time
Edit: im at 10hrs 36mins on battery 8hrs 46mins screen on been trying to see how long it would last me with heavy use today been browsing xda most of the time and my display is 83% battery use cuz i have my brightness at about 80%
Edit 2: i forgot to mention im at 46% battery left on stock 1800 battery as well with that usage rediculous compared to my evo that was 3500 battery times for me my 1800 in my evo would be dead at 8 hrs screen on
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I'm gonna throw this out there and hopefully prevent some bad things, I am a lurker who reads a TON. I am gonna strongly caution you against using touch recovery. Far too many phones have been getting bricked lately. Also, don't pay too much attention to modems or odin at first, eventually you'll get curious and go for it, but it's not really necessary for most things. If you are gonna go for odin, I'd suggest buying the mobile odin app from the market. Very handy app.
But be warned, stay away from touch recovery for now. Wait for the kinks to be ironed out.
monkeybone12 said:
I'd love a link if you have any handy.
Odin did seem pretty simple when I've used it before. What is this I keep reading about a flash count? Is there a limited time you can flash roms?
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look up qbking77 on youtube, he has great videos for this phone including the 1-click method to root this phone. Also, I believe buying a jigg will reset the counter on odin
Freeroot said:
I'm gonna throw this out there and hopefully prevent some bad things, I am a lurker who reads a TON. I am gonna strongly caution you against using touch recovery. Far too many phones have been getting bricked lately. Also, don't pay too much attention to modems or odin at first, eventually you'll get curious and go for it, but it's not really necessary for most things. If you are gonna go for odin, I'd suggest buying the mobile odin app from the market. Very handy app.
But be warned, stay away from touch recovery for now. Wait for the kinks to be ironed out.
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Thanks for the advice. Not falling on deaf ears.
Snagged up mobile odin BTW, looks pretty slick!
DAMN.... THAT was easy!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I came from the evo too this phone was a little confusing at first but a little reading and it makes sense real quick ive settled on team nocturnals dark ics blend rom with stock kernel and fb21 modem and im getting about 6-8hrs screen on time
Edit: im at 10hrs 36mins on battery 8hrs 46mins screen on been trying to see how long it would last me with heavy use today been browsing xda most of the time and my display is 83% battery use cuz i have my brightness at about 80%
Edit 2: i forgot to mention im at 46% battery left on stock 1800 battery as well with that usage rediculous compared to my evo that was 3500 battery times for me my 1800 in my evo would be dead at 8 hrs screen on
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I heard BATT life was outstanding on this little devil. Let's hope!
I ended up almost 15 hrs onbattery with close to 12 hrs screen on when i plugged in at18% last night
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What roms are those of you who arent crazy (aka those on ICS) using (aka those still using gingerbread roms). Having some odd problems with my rom im on currently, so im looking to see whats still good (Seeing as things havnt been updated for a while).
Check out Blazer ROM, and Calkulins ROM.
cds0699 said:
Check out Blazer ROM, and Calkulins ROM.
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Ahh is blazer still being update? or atleast updated since the beginning of this year? and as far as calks gingerbread rom, i wasnt a fan. to many tweaks that caused random issues for me ( think it had to do with some of the powersaver scripts and whatnot). But yeah if blazer is still smooth and awesome i might give that a try.
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Ahh is blazer still being update? or atleast updated since the beginning of this year? and as far as calks gingerbread rom, i wasnt a fan. to many tweaks that caused random issues for me ( think it had to do with some of the powersaver scripts and whatnot). But yeah if blazer is still smooth and awesome i might give that a try.
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Im on blazer 4.0 smooth as butter
Back from my "scotsman vacation"
Bear gri11z said:
Im on blazer 4.0 smooth as butter
Back from my "scotsman vacation"
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holy crap blazer 4.0 DOES look awesome. Thanks guys. Totally goin to blazer
On Blazer 3.5 and FB27 modem.
HaiKaiDo said:
Ahh is blazer still being update? or atleast updated since the beginning of this year? and as far as calks gingerbread rom, i wasnt a fan. to many tweaks that caused random issues for me ( think it had to do with some of the powersaver scripts and whatnot). But yeah if blazer is still smooth and awesome i might give that a try.
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Yep, last updated February 20th.
Blazer 4.1
Too sexy
iSaint said:
Blazer 4.1
Too sexy
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Show off........ Lol
iSaint said:
Blazer 4.1
Too sexy
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your old siggy was much more sexy
I didn't realize ics was bricking phones. I've been going to and from ics since the initial release. I think it's more that people are just being careless and not paying attention to what they are doing *or* they are doing something like using rom manager or touch recovery. Which if you haven't heard, DO NOT USE EITHER OF THESE ON OUR PHONES.
What I've learned through out my time flashing is:
1. Use the one-click ODIN+Root+Data Wipe for EL29 (Latest GB release).
2. If a custom recovery is required, wait for one to be created which matches the current build you have, ex. FB21 + FB21 Repack w/CWM. Usually the dev's are pretty good at getting one put together.
3. Do not restore back ups, ever. I repeat EVER.
4. Make sure all the drivers are installed before doing anything. (Samsung Kies, etc.)
5. If you need to get custom recovery for EL29, use the AutoRoot stickie, which has a 100% success rate.
6. Wipe, Wipe, Wipe, and more Wipe. I can't repeat that enough, but make sure you wipe every chance you get. Hell, wipe before flashing, after flashing, flash again, etc.
I keep the majority of my apps on Dropbox, and have my contacts synced through Exchange (Sprint server).
I have yet to brick a phone.
Strongsteve's rom. Nothing else need be said.
Up and comming Arts forum http://little-melon.com/Forum
I made a full thread on how to prevent bricking your phone when using ICS roms, it's perfectly fine to use ICS as long as you don't get careless, heres my thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
Freeroot said:
I didn't realize ics was bricking phones. I've been going to and from ics since the initial release. I think it's more that people are just being careless and not paying attention to what they are doing *or* they are doing something like using rom manager or touch recovery. Which if you haven't heard, DO NOT USE EITHER OF THESE ON OUR PHONES.
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Well i would have to disagree with this. I was in the dev irc when the first bricks happened. Including sbrissen, a few of his testers and then recently steadyhawking (who obviously got another phone already). Has nothing to do with carelessness, theres just some problems with the process as a whole right now.
xST4T1K said:
I made a full thread on how to prevent bricking your phone when using ICS roms, it's perfectly fine to use ICS as long as you don't get careless, heres my thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
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Until I hear from Steady or sbrissen that the issue is completely gone. I appreciate the effort, but since we dont know EXACTLY what it is (hell there could be even more things that we dont know that are causing it) no ICS for this guy.
PS: You should add rouge recovery to the list of bricks suspects. Thats how steady bricked his phone the other day. he was in his own recovery and it still did it.
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Well i would have to disagree with this. I was in the dev irc when the first bricks happened. Including sbrissen, a few of his testers and then recently steadyhawking (who obviously got another phone already). Has nothing to do with carelessness, theres just some problems with the process as a whole right now.
Until I hear from Steady or sbrissen that the issue is completely gone. I appreciate the effort, but since we dont know EXACTLY what it is (hell there could be even more things that we dont know that are causing it) no ICS for this guy.
PS: You should add rouge recovery to the list of bricks suspects. Thats how steady bricked his phone the other day. he was in his own recovery and it still did it.
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WOAHH. I had no idea steady bricked his phone. I knew t.c.p. did. This adds a new dimension to this thing.
HaiKaiDo said:
Well i would have to disagree with this. I was in the dev irc when the first bricks happened. Including sbrissen, a few of his testers and then recently steadyhawking (who obviously got another phone already). Has nothing to do with carelessness, theres just some problems with the process as a whole right now.
Until I hear from Steady or sbrissen that the issue is completely gone. I appreciate the effort, but since we dont know EXACTLY what it is (hell there could be even more things that we dont know that are causing it) no ICS for this guy.
PS: You should add rouge recovery to the list of bricks suspects. Thats how steady bricked his phone the other day. he was in his own recovery and it still did it.
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Completely understandable, I would add it but the only problem is there is no way of knowing what he was doing when it bricked, an action has to be done for a phone to brick and without knowing that action I can't say "don't use rogue" or people would think I'm an idiot and nobody would be on ICS if that were the case, but I've been using ICS since the leaks came out and never had an issue once following my own guide (using rogue everytime btw).
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Completely understandable, I would add it but the only problem is there is no way of knowing what he was doing when it bricked, an action has to be done for a phone to brick and without knowing that action I can't say "don't use rogue" or people would think I'm an idiot and nobody would be on ICS if that were the case, but I've been using ICS since the leaks came out and never had an issue once following my own guide (using rogue everytime btw).
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I agree with you and I haven't had any problems either. and I mean since fb09 all the way to the current calk build. If Steady did actually brick his phone like the guy says, then there is probably some other reason that we are unaware of. Steady seems to have a pretty good grasp on what he's doing. That kinda scares me, but I have yet to find where he posted about bricking his device or a warning to stay away from ics or something along those lines :skeptical:
xST4T1K said:
Completely understandable, I would add it but the only problem is there is no way of knowing what he was doing when it bricked, an action has to be done for a phone to brick and without knowing that action I can't say "don't use rogue" or people would think I'm an idiot and nobody would be on ICS if that were the case, but I've been using ICS since the leaks came out and never had an issue once following my own guide (using rogue everytime btw).
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lol no one would think youre an idiot. Just mention that rouge recovery also runs the risk of bricking and refer anyone that doesnt believe you to steady's bricked phone .
PS: Steady used to brag to me that he used his recovery constantly to flash back and fourth to ICS...and then bricked
After all the playing around I did with ICS, I had to switch back due to the GPS issues and needing it to work for a road trip. I have no idea what bit of flashing/odin magic I did but I have Calkulins ROM running better than I've ever seen - UI is so snappy. I know it's a stock rooted kernel, but I'm not sure about the modem. Is that under "baseband version"?
So i have seen a few things about CWM touch and was wonder if anyone else is on it and if they prefer it over regular CWM?
Even if you don't have it but you have heard good or bad about it your opinion would be helpful.
Im on the fence whether i want to go through with it and do it or not.
let me know!
I use it and I like it . The only reason I use it because I flash a lot of ROMs and I don't want to wear out my power but and volume buttons like I did my old phone from flashing so much ROMs .
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yeah i try and flash a lot as well. ive never wore out any buttons though, so props on that! XD
Yeah i think im going to jump in and try it, it just looks like a cool mod, not to mention if it works i HATE the jumping and skipping.
I personally prefer non-touch recoveries. And besides, I've seen a lot of "I accidentally touched the screen and it flash xxxx" posts.
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I personally prefer non-touch recoveries. And besides, I've seen a lot of "I accidentally touched the screen and it flash xxxx" posts.
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That is the one thing i worried about. but in my case i think it will be fine, I take a lot of precaution when i flash things. I try to be sitting at the desk, my kid up and animals locked up.
Other then the accidentally flashing problem any other problems?
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That is the one thing i worried about. but in my case i think it will be fine, I take a lot of precaution when i flash things. I try to be sitting at the desk, my kid up and animals locked up.
Other then the accidentally flashing problem any other problems?
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There were some compatibility issues with the older 5-series CWM touch recoveries, but I believe it is sorted out with the 6-series. I'm not aware of anything, but best to have a gander at the CWM thread in the dev section.
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I personally prefer non-touch recoveries. And besides, I've seen a lot of "I accidentally touched the screen and it flash xxxx" posts.
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I used to feel this way, and held out for a long time, but made the switch a couple of months ago and have been accident free thus far, even with nightlies. My inspiration was eliminating as much use of the vol key as well; if it's anything like the power button it's just waiting for the right moment to break :victory:
It seems obvious that a Verizon user can't flash a Sprint ROM (Although I admit I don't know exactly why unless S3 ROMS have PRL, PRI, NV, etc in them, too) but can a Sprint user flash a kernel for the S3 that he found on, say, a forum for Verizon S3 users?
Also, as long as I'm asking, CWM was not a good Recovery for the Evo and TBH, I don't really like it now. How much better is TWRP?? Does it handle back-ups and restores better?? I have to think it does since CWM just makes a single image without being able to select what components you actually want to back up
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It seems obvious that a Verizon user can't flash a Sprint ROM (Although I admit I don't know exactly why unless S3 ROMS have PRL, PRI, NV, etc in them, too) but can a Sprint user flash a kernel for the S3 that he found on, say, a forum for Verizon S3 users?
Also, as long as I'm asking, CWM was not a Recovery for the Evo and TBH, I don't really like it now. How much better is TWRP?? Does it handle back-ups and restores better?? I have to think it does since CWM just makes a single image without being able to select what components you actually want to back up
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I wouldn't flash anything unless it's for Sprint, some have reported they do work but rotations are upside down..
The Evo most certainly had cwm for a recovery as its the recovery my wife used on her Evo, you might be talking about the Evo lte but I'm 85% sure they have cwm also since its the most popular recovery out there.. the newer versions of twrp have been giving some people problems with backups and restores lately so if you go with twrp go with an older version... 2.3.3.0 is rock solid...
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It seems obvious that a Verizon user can't flash a Sprint ROM (Although I admit I don't know exactly why unless S3 ROMS have PRL, PRI, NV, etc in them, too) but can a Sprint user flash a kernel for the S3 that he found on, say, a forum for Verizon S3 users?
Also, as long as I'm asking, CWM was not a Recovery for the Evo and TBH, I don't really like it now. How much better is TWRP?? Does it handle back-ups and restores better?? I have to think it does since CWM just makes a single image without being able to select what components you actually want to back up
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I would advice against it. I haven't tried it myself, but I have read about a few people that have flashed Kernels not for their Carriers.It did not turn out well. I do not know if that's the rule, or the exception. Just know that I would not do it. As for CWM on the SGS3. I have yet to have any issues with it. It is a far cry from the OG EVO days. Much improved IMO.
Kernel's are individual for each carrier. The components and file locations are all different. You will end up with a brick in most cases. This is for the GSIII we are speaking of. Other devices such as the Galaxy Nexus shares kernel across all carriers.
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Kernel's are individual for each carrier. The components and file locations are all different. You will end up with a brick in most cases. This is for the GSIII we are speaking of. Other devices such as the Galaxy Nexus shares kernel across all carriers.
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OK, thanks, guys.
@flastnoles11 of course the Evo had CWM. But that was the worst recovery for the Evo, since it didn't wipe properly and the Evoi is a very temperamental device when it comes to proper wipes before flashing a ROM.
On a side-note, I really HATE when people say something like you did when you wrote "The Evo most certainly had cwm for a recovery as its the recovery my wife used on her Evo, you might be talking about the Evo lte but I'm 85% sure they have cwm also since its the most popular recovery out there".
I stated that I just came form the Evo. My Signature includes a comprehensive guide I wrote for the Evo. I have almost 1500 thank yous listed because of my work on the Evo. My signature includes the signature bar for my dev team, including an icon for the Evo. I''m a (Currently suspened (( ) RC because of the Evo work I did. There's a pretty good chance that I know what I'm talking about and wasn't making a mistake.
Sorry for the rant. It's just one of my pet peeves. No disrespect intended. Just unfortunately using you as a scapegoat here
I just came from the evo 4g LTE.. There's a cwm recovery for it but it dont work at all.. It messes with misc partition.. So the only recovery thats works for the evo LTE is twrp.. I had the evo 4g.. Then the evo 3d.. Then evo 4g lte.. Now jumped ship to samsung!!
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OK, thanks, guys.
@flastnoles11 of course the Evo had CWM. But that was the worst recovery for the Evo, since it didn't wipe properly and the Evoi is a very temperamental device when it comes to proper wipes before flashing a ROM.
On a side-note, I really HATE when people say something like you did when you wrote "The Evo most certainly had cwm for a recovery as its the recovery my wife used on her Evo, you might be talking about the Evo lte but I'm 85% sure they have cwm also since its the most popular recovery out there".
I stated that I just came form the Evo. My Signature includes a comprehensive guide I wrote for the Evo. I have almost 1500 thank yous listed because of my work on the Evo. My signature includes the signature bar for my dev team, including an icon for the Evo. I''m a (Currently suspened (( ) RC because of the Evo work I did. There's a pretty good chance that I know what I'm talking about and wasn't making a mistake.
Sorry for the rant. It's just one of my pet peeves. No disrespect intended. Just unfortunately using you as a scapegoat here
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Well as you said, there was cwm for it and in your original post you said there wasn't, I was just pointing out that there was.... If you don't want to be corrected, don't make false statements!
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Well as you said, there was cwm for it and in your original post you said there wasn't, I was just pointing out that there was.... If you don't want to be corrected, don't make false statements!
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Ahh, my bad. That was typo. It was supposed to say CWM wasn't a good recovery for the Evo....
Nooblube said:
I just came from the evo 4g LTE.. There's a cwm recovery for it but it dont work at all.. It messes with misc partition.. So the only recovery thats works for the evo LTE is twrp.. I had the evo 4g.. Then the evo 3d.. Then evo 4g lte.. Now jumped ship to samsung!!
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Glad you saw the light after soo long in the dark!!
Welcome to the Galaxy family!!
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Glad you jumped ship to Samsung HipKat. The SGS3 is a beast. As for CWM, vs TWRP. Like I said previously, CWM IMO is better than TWRP on the SGS3. But that's just from experience. Tried them both and CWM came out on top.
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prboy1969 said:
Glad you jumped ship to Samsung HipKat. The SGS3 is a beast. As for CWM, vs TWRP. Like I said previously, CWM IMO is better than TWRP on the SGS3. But that's just from experience. Tried them both and CWM came out on top.
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Agree 100%
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Agree 100%
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I guess my question now concerns backups....
I tried a backup on CWM and got something about not mounting drive. Then I read about IME & QPST backups?? Aggghhh... so confusing..... I miss Evo nandroids already lol
And guys, help me out and push for a US Cellular forum. Thx!