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What's your next phone?

As the Incredible comes up on its birthday, I've started thinking about other phones to move to. The Thunderbolt is an obvious consideration, as well as the Incredible S. I'm assuming that both will be supported by ROM developers fairly - maybe not to the extent that the Inc is supported, but I think there will be a few choices.
I used another upgrade on my family plan to get the Incredible, so I have an upgrade waiting for whenever I find a phone that's compelling enough to upgrade to (or I break the Incredible...). The Thunderbolt is looking a little more appealing than the Incredible S now, especially because its only a little bit bigger and has 4g for the same data price as the Inc S (at least as i understand it... $30/mo for unlimited LTE, which I assume includes 3g as well?)
Just wondering what you guys had in mind in terms of upgrading. Thoughts?

I'm not planning on changing anytime soon, if they seriously work out a lot of the issues in the TB *maybe* but I doubt it.
The only reason I'd want to upgrade is for 4G, and it's going to be a year or 2 before it gets to my area. To be honest, 3G speeds are perfectly fine for me. Can stream youtube flawless as well as hulu. More speed the better, but no push for me to upgrade.

I think ill get the iPhone 6... JK, I'm on a 2yr contract with my Incredible started 4/29/2010 (got on launch day). So whatever is out in 2012 I guess. Hopefully my dinc will last another year. Surprised I haven't broken it yet.
But how do you go about upgrading to another phone out of contract? Like the thunderbolt, would I just pay the retail price in full (rumored @ $750) and keep the current contract?
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BrettApple said:
But how do you go about upgrading to another phone out of contract? Like the thunderbolt, would I just pay the retail price in full (rumored @ $750) and keep the current contract?
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Pretty much. I bought the Droid 2 when I came over to Verizon and after a few months bought an Incredible full price (the Droid 2 almost covered it via eBay). You just change your device on the website and it doesn't affect your contract.

Thunderbolt For Me!!!

It looks like a lot of devs are going towards the TB. That will probably be the biggest factor in my decision making.

I'll probably use this last annual upgrade to get the TB on a one year contract. With any luck, those getting the TB now will be grandfathered with the $29.99 unlimited LTE for future equipment upgrades.

I will likely upgrade on 1yr contract with TB also. I am not up for upgrade until August, but an account rep approved an early upgrade. The way things are shaping up, it really could be 3rd quarter before anything significantly better drops on VZW. At that point, I could sell the TB and buy the next great phone at retail.

Id just love to have gingerbread with sense, dont need a new phone as my dinc has been great since release date!
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I just couldn't imagine giving up my Dinc
Probably go with the TB when available... but I'll want to see teh DEV support before jumping ship...
The support on the Incredible has been... well.... Incredible

Thunderbolt. I'm not switching providers for a decent android phone.
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bill102938 said:
I just couldn't imagine giving up my Dinc
Probably go with the TB when available... but I'll want to see teh DEV support before jumping ship...
The support on the Incredible has been... well.... Incredible
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I have a DX and a DINC,
I honestly do not see much of a reason to upgrade just yet. with the exception of 4G and front facing cameras, these new phones are not exactly blowing the doors off of the previous models. I love my DINC, and I plan on waiting at least for a while until this winter/next spring..I'm hoping that by then the new phones will be a bit more of an upgrade.
Besides, I at least need to wait to see which devices will or will not have locked bootloaders.

gio2005 said:
I have a DX and a DINC,
I honestly do not see much of a reason to upgrade just yet. with the exception of 4G and front facing cameras, these new phones are not exactly blowing the doors off of the previous models. I love my DINC, and I plan on waiting at least for a while until this winter/next spring..I'm hoping that by then the new phones will be a bit more of an upgrade.
Besides, I at least need to wait to see which devices will or will not have locked bootloaders.
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Which phone do you prefer Incredible or X?
I just bought my Incredible a week ago, I love the dev support and how smooth the phone is, hate the battery life.
I really like the huge DX screen.... Not sure if it would be a good idea to trade.
Thanks

jenna728 said:
Which phone do you prefer Incredible or X?
I just bought my Incredible a week ago, I love the dev support and how smooth the phone is, hate the battery life.
I really like the huge DX screen.... Not sure if it would be a good idea to trade.
Thanks
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The screen was nice and the size wasn't bad...but it can't touch the inc.
Stock it was loaded with so much bloat that it lagged horribly. There were some great roms for it though.
Overall my experience is that I had to rom my X to make it as fast as a stock inc.
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I'm waiting for an HTC Dual-Core phone. The TB isn't enough of an upgrade for me to leave the comfort of my beloved DINC. My dream would be for an HTC Tegra 2 phone but I know it will never happen due to HTC's relationship with Qualcomm. So something Pyramid-esq I'm guessing that'll be coming out this summer.

gio2005 said:
The screen was nice and the size wasn't bad...but it can't touch the inc.
Stock it was loaded with so much bloat that it lagged horribly. There were some great roms for it though.
Overall my experience is that I had to rom my X to make it as fast as a stock inc.
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Thanks for the reply. I guess I will stick with the Incredible then.

my next phone is the thunderbolt. i'm really excited to wait in line at 8:30 am for it tomorrow.
i'm upgrading to 4g for the same reason i upgraded to 802.11n. the population density in the city is just too high. all the cells are just overloaded. verizon's not bad, but AT&T is just horrendous. i actually got AT&T to waive the ETF on my iPhone plan so i could move to VZW and get an OG Droid. anyway, back when i had an 802.11g router my signal strength was fine, but the speeds were just terrible. a 20 second kismac scan just now reveals 45 different wireless networks coursing through my apartment. after moving to wireless n the difference was huge and i'm hoping the same effect will be seen after moving to LTE. i'm also hoping that my signal strength will be better on the 700 mHz band. my office in the Financial District has a not-very-good signal and i hear 700 mHz penetrates further into the built environment.
finally, i'm really stoked to go to a 4.3" screen. i bought an HD2 and took it abroad so i could have a phone with a local sim while traveling. although mobile data speeds in india and bangladesh were pretty awful, i really enjoyed using android on that giant HD2 display. a higher resolution screen would be nice, but i'm ready to move on from my DInc so that's not a requirement for me.
see you in the thunderbolt forums.

I really want the galaxy s 2, hopefully it will come out on Verizon by June 18th
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For all of you that want the Thunderbolt:
Save $70 and use it for the extended battery; Amazon will be selling them at midnight for $179 with a 2 year contract
http://wireless.amazon.com/dp/B004M5HB6U
http://www.androidcentral.com/amazon-will-sell-you-htc-thunderbolt-180-goes-sale-midnight

Droid Incredible 2

I hope this phone will still be available in Sept. That is when i can upgrade. I don't see anything else I'm interested in. I don't want a 4.3 inch phone. Way to damn big.

I completely agree about the size. That really turned me off in the other current models. But in september there may be others that fit this sweet spot. If not I'd bet this will still be on sale. I got my Eris 4.5 months after it launched.

There was a rumor of a mini Mecha (thunderbolt) with 3.5" screen. That may be available. I'm sure they will still have Dinc2s in September
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There's not going to be a whole lot of new stuff for a while. You might see some shrinkage (like the mini Mecha mentioned) of the lightweight hardware, and maybe some of the really delayed stuff will launch (mostly dual core stuff), but the next round of latest and greatest will be close to CES (Consumer Electronics Show) time.

You would be insane to upgrade to this phone in September. There will be a lot better stuff out by then and this one will be a half a year old.
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I just had to use my annual upgrade yesterday on the 6th before verizon changed their data plans. I dont know but something about only 2gb for 30 bucks is a rip off to me (even tho I rarely use that much). I was only a month away from my full discount price but thought unlimited data was worth more than an extra discount. I already got a great deal on the phone I think, 99bucks on vzws site with free shipping for the I2.
Anyway, I just hope I'm going to like the bigger screen coming from the eris. My wife has the first gen incredible and I loved the screen size and this was the best one I could find since I refuse to go with an iphone after coming to love android.
/Thread jack
Since the I2 just came out, why wouldnt it be available in sept?

MJL99 said:
I just had to use my annual upgrade yesterday on the 6th before verizon changed their data plans. I dont know but something about only 2gb for 30 bucks is a rip off to me (even tho I rarely use that much). I was only a month away from my full discount price but thought unlimited data was worth more than an extra discount. I already got a great deal on the phone I think, 99bucks on vzws site with free shipping for the I2.
Anyway, I just hope I'm going to like the bigger screen coming from the eris. My wife has the first gen incredible and I loved the screen size and this was the best one I could find since I refuse to go with an iphone after coming to love android.
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Since the I2 just came out, why wouldnt it be available in sept?
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I love this phone coming from the Eris plus its pretty dang fast. The 4" is perfect
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knipp21 said:
I love this phone coming from the Eris plus its pretty dang fast. The 4" is perfect
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Came from the Eris myself and I agree. I just miss CM

Switched OFF Verizon for Nexiii ;}

So this new Galaxy phone Verizon holds exclusivity over in the US is turning out to be a giant flop lol. Verizon holds dominion over this new "Galaxy" device, and therefore it is not the true "Google experience," and therefore is not a Nexus ... The real Nexus just hit the UK and will explode its white hot awesomeness all over Canada soon. Looks like the World has an exclusive over the Nexus and the US has to wait until Dec 4th or whenever,
The true Nexus so far:
1) Is way thinner and not ugly
2) has a hyperskin coating on the back and not brushed aluminum
3) Is bloat-free lol
4) Is already released "exclusively" around the world, excluding the US
5) Is not under the twisted control of an evil carrier
6) Does not have any stupid carrier logos anywhere
7) Is cheaper (Phone itself, and Tmo/ATT plans vs VZW - $30 vs $95)
8) Uses a lot less battery because it doesn't have a huge/premature LTE radio
9) one word: Freedom... use the phone around the world, switch carriers whenever with sim cards
I just switched off Verizon and purchased my unicorn from glorious Handtec.
100Mins, Unlimited Text & Data (5GB of 4G)on T-Mo for $30, can't beat that XD I used to pay $95 on VZW for 450 talk/unl txt+web lol.
Anyone else switched off VZW for the Nex?

How much did the phone cost u?
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
How much did the phone cost u?
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$698 I believe. It would normally be $595 I believe, if you bought it in the UK. But there's a VAT or whatever for importing

Dmw017 said:
So this new Galaxy phone Verizon holds exclusivity over in the US is turning out to be a giant flop lol. Verizon holds dominion over this new "Galaxy" device, and therefore it is not the true "Google experience," and therefore is not a Nexus ... The real Nexus just hit the UK and will explode its white hot awesomeness all over Canada soon. Looks like the World has an exclusive over the Nexus and the US has to wait until Dec 4th or whenever,
The true Nexus so far:
1) Is way thinner and not ugly
2) has a hyperskin coating on the back and not brushed aluminum
3) Is bloat-free lol
4) Is already released "exclusively" around the world, excluding the US
5) Is not under the twisted control of an evil carrier
6) Does not have any stupid carrier logos anywhere
7) Is cheaper (Phone itself, and Tmo/ATT plans vs VZW - $30 vs $95)
8) Uses a lot less battery because it doesn't have a huge/premature LTE radio
9) Can be used on various carriers and around the world
I just switched off Verizon and purchased my unicorn from glorious Handtec.
100Mins, Unlimited Text & 5GB Data on T-Mo for $30, can't beat that XD I used to pay $95 on VZW for 450 talk/unl txt+web lol.
Anyone else switched off VZW for the Nex?
Anyone else switched off Verizon because of the Nex?
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1) "way thinner" = 0.53mm? Really?
2) Where's your source saying the back of the Verizon model is brushed aluminum and not hyperskin?
3) The bloat on the VZW model (from what we know at this time) is TWO pre-installed apps. Big whoop.
4) Yeah the global model is already released, but being on Verizon I'm stuck waiting, which is fine. I've waited a year and a half for this phone, another couple weeks isn't going to kill me.
5) Yeah well, that's life
6) True. But the Verizon model has the logos on the BACK, and on the battery cover no less (not branded on the device itself), so big whoop.
7) You get 5GB data, I have unlimited, $30/mo. And that'll be on Verizon's LTE, so there
8) Where's your evidence that the LTE model uses "a lot [more] battery" because of its radio? Oh right, the phone isn't even out yet... whoops.
9) That's true of any global phone basically.
Have fun with your less phone minutes and capped data. Sure I don't talk on the phone much (and I'm on a family plan), but grandfathered unlimited data ftw.

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$698 I believe
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Wow. I see it on Handtec for 434 euros or something around there ... That's 600$ if u convert it.. am I missing the VAC's or whatever? I thought I read that we didn't have to pay those in US
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_hyperdude said:
1) "way thinner" = 0.53mm? Really?
2) Where's your source saying the back of the Verizon model is brushed aluminum and not hyperskin?
3) The bloat on the VZW model (from what we know at this time) is TWO pre-installed apps. Big whoop.
4) Yeah the global model is already released, but being on Verizon I'm stuck waiting, which is fine. I've waited a year and a half for this phone, another couple weeks isn't going to kill me.
5) Yeah well, that's life
6) True. But the Verizon model has the logos on the BACK, and on the battery cover no less (not branded on the device itself), so big whoop.
7) You get 5GB data, I have unlimited, $30/mo. And that'll be on Verizon's LTE, so there
8) Where's your evidence that the LTE model uses "a lot [more] battery" because of its radio? Oh right, the phone isn't even out yet... whoops.
9) That's true of any global phone basically.
Have fun with your less phone minutes and capped data. Sure I don't talk on the phone much (and I'm on a family plan), but grandfathered unlimited data ftw.
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1) yeah specwise i dont think .5 is too big a number, but when u compare the two side-by-side .. its somewhat really bad lol, and the colors r kinda diff? i dunno
2) oh it was on androidforums I believe, but if you look at the finish on the back of each Nexus you can see they are not the same.
3) Yeah the bloat is no big deal, i just think its the principal of the matter ya know?
6) same thing principal of the matter.. supposed to be a nexus, but again most ppl wouldnt care about this
7) wow nice dude. yeah im kind of worried about going over 5gb but it should be cool as long as i use wifi when i stream music (which is next to never ;p lol)
8) its just a known fact that LTE tech atm is premature and battery consumption is nuts with the 1st gen radios. This should be a lot better next year. Also, the Razr has good battery i hear, not because the radio isnt killign the battery, but because of the awesome Smart Battery (or something) app in the phone.
9) yeah i was tryign to say its cool cuz its a global phone, even though i dont travel lol.
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Wow. I see it on Handtec for 434 euros or something around there ... That's 600$ if u convert it.. am I missing the VAC's or whatever? I thought I read that we didn't have to pay those in US
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yeah u know i did the same thing yesterday lol. i was like wow $600 for importing is super cheap.. but theres some kind of fee or something that applies only when ur at the checkout i dunno, but i paid $698 which is the lowest price everywhere so far

Dmw017 said:
1) yeah specwise i dont think .5 is too big a number, but when u compare the two side-by-side .. its somewhat really bad lol, and the colors r kinda diff? i dunno
2) oh it was on androidforums I believe, but if you look at the finish on the back of each Nexus you can see they are not the same.
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As for the battery cover finish, I attached a snap from the Getting Started video uploaded the other day. Looks like hyperskin to me. (At least as well as I can see)
Where have you seen an actual side-by-side comparison shot of the two models? I know someone at Android Central made one based on a screenshot from one of the videos, but I'm pretty sure the colors and thickness of the LTE one look different because of different lighting in the pictures.
And as for the fact that Verizon messing somewhat with a little bit of the software on the phone as going against the principle of having a Nexus, I understand where you're coming from, but Verizon is by no means corrupting the spirit of this phone. This model (4G LTE, SCH-i515?) is Verizon-specific, so doesn't Verizon have some sort of right to do SOMETHING with it? All the GSM carriers selling the GSM unlocked model get identical phones, so no wonder they aren't carrier branded. Just saying.
I'm perfectly happy with the little changes Verizon is making, so long as they don't encrypt the bootloader or do anything to impede being able to get timely OS updates. (Yes, I know it won't be instant rollout like with the GSM model). This is the first time a Nexus phone has come to Verizon, and I'll be getting it

Do you have a link to were you bought it. I'm seriously considering doing the same thing, based on your list in your original post. I'm also tired of waiting.

_hyperdude said:
As for the battery cover finish, I attached a snap from the Getting Started video uploaded the other day. Looks like hyperskin to me. (At least as well as I can see)
Where have you seen an actual side-by-side comparison shot of the two models? I know someone at Android Central made one based on a screenshot from one of the videos, but I'm pretty sure the colors and thickness of the LTE one look different because of different lighting in the pictures.
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Just that one screenshot you mentioned, I think you may be right about the lighting, still pretty thick in comparison though, just in terms of overall shape.. kind of weird
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Do you have a link to were you bought it. I'm seriously considering doing the same thing, based on your list in your original post. I'm also tired of waiting.
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http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5527/samsung-galaxy-nexus-16gb--sim-free-unlocked-
Most reliable place to get the Nexus imo You should order quick if you want in on the first shipment, hopefully they haven't sold out yet.

Dmw017 said:
1) yeah specwise i dont think .5 is too big a number, but when u compare the two side-by-side .. its somewhat really bad lol, and the colors r kinda diff? i dunno
2) oh it was on androidforums I believe, but if you look at the finish on the back of each Nexus you can see they are not the same.
3) Yeah the bloat is no big deal, i just think its the principal of the matter ya know?
6) same thing principal of the matter.. supposed to be a nexus, but again most ppl wouldnt care about this
7) wow nice dude. yeah im kind of worried about going over 5gb but it should be cool as long as i use wifi when i stream music (which is next to never ;p lol)
8) its just a known fact that LTE tech atm is premature and battery consumption is nuts with the 1st gen radios. This should be a lot better next year. Also, the Razr has good battery i hear, not because the radio isnt killign the battery, but because of the awesome Smart Battery (or something) app in the phone.
9) yeah i was tryign to say its cool cuz its a global phone, even though i dont travel lol.
yeah u know i did the same thing yesterday lol. i was like wow $600 for importing is super cheap.. but theres some kind of fee or something that applies only when ur at the checkout i dunno, but i paid $698 which is the lowest price everywhere so far
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There's no fee for importing. its £425 which is around $675. and they charge £15 for delivery to the US. so it comes out to $695 including everything.

Dmw017 said:
Just that one screenshot you mentioned, I think you may be right about the lighting, still pretty thick in comparison though, just in terms of overall shape.. kind of weird
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I'm fairly sure it looks weird because he photoshopped it out of a video, not out of a press shot or something. Basically impossible to judge size and shape that definitively off of cutting an image out of a video.
Even if the phone is a tad thicker than 9.47mm like it's advertised to be, I won't complain. Just like I didn't complain about how thick my OG is (for the record, the GN is the thickness of the OG Droid minus the screen)

Topics like this one are the *EXACT* problem I have with this forum. People spouting knowledge about a topic they know nothing about.
Nobody even knows how the LTE version performs...so making assumptions about it is completely ridiculous. You make a post about all these "facts" when, in fact, very few of them are even true or confirmed. Allow me to go through the list:
1) Is way thinner and not ugly
.50mm is absolutely nothing...most people wouldn't notice the difference. Ugly? It looks identical.
2) has a hyperskin coating on the back and not brushed aluminum
You have no idea what the back of this phone is made out of...don't make assumptions.
3) Is bloat-free lol
Assumptions? Yes. Nobody knows for sure there is "bloatware" on it. The video everybody talks about is using a pre-release version of the hardware and software and Verizon might have paid to have the apps displayed in that video.
4) Is already released "exclusively" around the world, excluding the US
Because it's a different phone...the LTE model is a different phone than the one released around the world.
5) Is not under the twisted control of an evil carrier
lol
6) Does not have any stupid carrier logos anywhere
Firstly, they're on the back. Secondly, get a $1 battery cover and suddenly they're gone!
7) Is cheaper (Phone itself, and Tmo/ATT plans vs VZW - $30 vs $95)
Nobody knows what the price is, so your assumptions are invalid and ignorant. As for the plans...what? What TMo or AT&T plan is $30? I have AT&T and for the lowest amount of minutes and unlimited text and data I pay around $90. On Verizon the same thing is $90. I'm mad at the difference.
8) Uses a lot less battery because it doesn't have a huge/premature LTE radio
lol the reason you're saying this is because you haven't *used* LTE. Firstly, the LTE version has a bigger battery...meaning the "less battery" is pretty much negated. Secondly, it has ****ING LTE. The difference is speed is incredible (my Galaxy Tab connects at around 25/10Mbps...which is actually faster than my home internet).
9) Can be used on various carriers and around the world
I'm very mad at this too. It's too bad that the one time I leave the country every other year I'll have to use my company phone. Then again, I'll be on vacation...so I won't be using that, either. Not a problem.

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Most reliable place to get the Nexus imo You should order quick if you want in on the first shipment, hopefully they haven't sold out yet.
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Thanks, I think it's sold out now. I might as well just keep waiting but, i will bookmark that site just in case.

Dmw017 said:
Just that one screenshot you mentioned, I think you may be right about the lighting, still pretty thick in comparison though, just in terms of overall shape.. kind of weird
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5527/samsung-galaxy-nexus-16gb--sim-free-unlocked-
Most reliable place to get the Nexus imo You should order quick if you want in on the first shipment, hopefully they haven't sold out yet.
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that site says "Stock is expected 21/11 However if stock arrives earlier in the UK be rest assured we will have it. Please check our blog entry for up to date info"
does that mean the first batch is already out? the 21/11 is the 2nd batch?

Not sure if I'm willing to pay close to $700, the most I would want to pay is $600. I'm really having a hard time not pressing that place order button But $700 is crazy for a phone

KiNG OMaR said:
Not sure if I'm willing to pay close to $700, the most I would want to pay is $600. I'm really having a hard time not pressing that place order button But $700 is crazy for a phone
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What's an extra $100 if your already spending so much on a phone
But yeah, you use this thing every single day and it is much, much, much, more than just a phone Think of the extra $100 as a fee for getting this sexy unicorn two months early, anddd if the 32GB comes out in the next 90 days, you can return this one and buy that one (<--my plan, im going to keep the box + receipt ;p)
Edit: Btw just thought I'd let you guys know that Wrapsol is already selling the Ultra shields for the Nexy, "facebook" coupon knocks off 10% and imo its the best shield ever smoother than gorilla glass + u get a lifetime warrenty

KiNG OMaR said:
Not sure if I'm willing to pay close to $700, the most I would want to pay is $600. I'm really having a hard time not pressing that place order button But $700 is crazy for a phone
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I'd have a lot easier time swallowing $700 if it were 32gb...

farfromovin said:
I'd have a lot easier time swallowing $700 if it were 32gb...
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Thats about normal. A smartphone is usually $600+ unlocked. The Droid Razr is $650 on verizon (month to month plan). The galaxy nexus would probably be the same price.

Payed 715 for mines and i am in the first batch. Should have it by next sat. Damm 1 more week!
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BiGMERF said:
Payed 715 for mines and i am in the first batch. Should have it by next sat. Damm 1 more week!
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next sat? why so long, doesnt it come out 21st

Offered a 4 day old Nexus for £300

As the thread states my friend just got a Nexus on contract and is using it to pay off his O2 contract as he already has a sim free iPhone 4S.
I can sell my GS2 for around £200-230 so just need to pay the difference to get it up to £300
Played around with it a tiny bit and it looks ok but not really sold on it however I do love the pure google experience (previous nexus one owner)
Good deal or not?

Yeah! Honestly, I got this phone yesterday and you will NOT be disappointed. The screen, the smoothness of ICS, it's just a freaking monster man. And You're only going to be paying around £70-£100 for the phone so you can't go wrong!
Edit: Just read you already own a GS2. I would not be so sure then, it depends on how desperate you are to get ICS, because once that hits the GS2 the only thing that will be to the Nexus' advantage is the screen and dev support, which is more than enough for me to go for the Nexus lol.

Decisions decisions....

Get it! and sell it me small profit for yourself

It's really a beast! Some of my favorite things are the screen,led,and the software buttons they are geinus!

Honestly, if I were you, I would wait until next year Q2 2012 when it is rumoured that quad core phones that are coming out. I'm pretty sure there are already ICS roms for the Galaxy S2 and you're getting it next year anyway from Samsung. However, I haven't had any experience with the Nexus so I can only tell you from what I think, I haven't actually compared the fluidity and smoothness of both phones.

keep your gs2 and wait.for.ice.
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Good deal, go for it while you can still get that for your GS2.
I sold my GS2 for the Nexus and haven't looked back. It's just a better overall device and probably one of the coolest gadgets I've owned.

pukemon said:
keep your gs2 and wait.for.ice.
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Don't listen to this idiot. He's the biggest troll on the Galaxy Nexus forums and only posts useless comments/complaints. You should definetely go for the Nexus - pure Google experience, HD screen, etc
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Gotta agree. There are a few users here that I see post the same useless drivel. Makes ya wonder.
Anyway, like I said before, go for it. You won't be disappointed.
Side note: The touch screen buttons have just made other Android devices look antiquated.

I am pretty sure I will if my friend doesn't decide to keep it.

£300 is not a great deal considering a brand new one sells for around £428.79. If you do not like it, you should be able to sell it for more than £300.

King Shady said:
Don't listen to this idiot. He's the biggest troll on the Galaxy Nexus forums and only posts useless comments/complaints. You should definetely go for the Nexus - pure Google experience, HD screen, etc
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nice signature. lol.

It kind of depends. Since you already have a GS2 it's not really an upgrade but a lateral move from one phone to the next. The GN2 will definitely outlive the GS2 as far as official updates and dev support is concerned, but the GS2 already has plenty dev support right now and will likely have it for as long as you own/use the phone. The screen on the GN is way better, the processor is just as good, the GPU and camera on the GS2 are the only real advantages so it pretty much evens out in my book. It really is going to come down to personal preference. The reason I jumped to the nexus line was because I was a Vibrant owner and never saw a froyo update on my phone while Samsung promised and promised. The dev community and custom gone were the only things keeping me happy with my phone. About a week after the Nexus S was released I walked into a Best Buy and put my phone running a custom froyo rom with an overclocked processor up against a bone stock display model and the display model Nexus won every battle. I bought the phone a few days later and haven't looked back since. Now there are a few caveats to the story, one being that I had a variant of the GS and that Samsung had indeed finished the froyo update about two months before the release of the Nexus S (just not for the American variants) but at the end of the day, the Nexus S is going to receive an official update of ICS and the GS isn't despite them having nearly all the same hardware components. The devs are still there and they will give the phone a proper update but it would be easier with an official kernel to play with. Just my thoughts. Personally I'd go with the GN unless you plan on playing multiple high end games that require you to have a better GPU.
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The stock google experience is swaying it for me right now and it looks like I will have to pay a minimum of £80 to £100 + selling my GS2.
Will see my mate on Thursday and take it from there and will let everyone know if I suddenly become a GN owner
My wife said no I cannot trade so I said it's an christmas present to myself so may have to sweeten her up a bit haha

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£300 is not a great deal considering a brand new one sells for around £428.79. If you do not like it, you should be able to sell it for more than £300.
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Actually its a very very good deal. Its 429 + vat which is more like £520. Also considering its from his friend and not some random stranger he can be pretty sure there's not some weird fault with it or something dodgy. Its pretty close to having a brand new phone with £220 off
Personally for around £100 I would probably upgrade. I agree with other posts its more of a lateral move, but the SGS2 is soooo common now, especially in the UK, and its coming up to a year old soon. The Galaxy Nexus will stay 'new' for a while. Also remember the GN resolution is the native resolution for ICS and what it was designed for. Although other phones with lower resolutions will also get ICS i'm sure there'll be some compromises somewhere.
Anyway its all opinion, but for me i'm slightly for the GN. BTW I upgraded from a N1 to a Galaxy Nexus, and my only experience of a SGS2 is 5 minutes with my friends one at the pub.

Interesting as o2 would let me pay off my remaining 2 months of my contract so i could get the galaxy nexus earlier.
They told me they do not allow this anymore and for that they have lost a customer, they never even tried to do me a deal.
I pay £41 a month for unlimited everything on my new contract which would mean i will pay £984 over the 24 month contract.
Hes going to be well out of pocket once he pays off his contract is o2 let him.

Text my mate to say I am going for the GN so now it's just down to when I go and get some cash for my phone and when I get to see him next.
Good timing as well as he was considering selling it tomorrow!

I bought a galaxy nexus and returned to my s2...
Only the screen is better on this phone and the new os, everything else isnt worth spendig money on it...

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Interesting as o2 would let me pay off my remaining 2 months of my contract so i could get the galaxy nexus earlier.
They told me they do not allow this anymore and for that they have lost a customer, they never even tried to do me a deal.
I pay £41 a month for unlimited everything on my new contract which would mean i will pay £984 over the 24 month contract.
Hes going to be well out of pocket once he pays off his contract is o2 let him.
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It's costing my friend around £200 to pay off O2 and he managed to get the GN for FREE on 12 months at vodafone so he will actually make around £100 from this and will also be on a 12 month agreement not 18-24 months.
On o2 he pays £37-38 a month and Vodafone will be £41 a month so makes sense really for him to sell it and for me to buy it lol

Value of our phones decreasing

Checking swappa and the value of our phone's have gotten STUPID cheap.
380? the hell?
i bought mines in feburary on swappa for 590! lol.
stop selling this phone so cheap guys. its still imo the best phone out.
sure it doesnt have a 1080 screen or 13mp camera or 4.2.2 BUT, the screen size and spen are enough to keep me on it.
in short, STOP SELLING THEM FOR DIRT CHEAP

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Checking swappa and the value of our phone's have gotten STUPID cheap.
380? the hell?
i bought mines in feburary on swappa for 590! lol.
stop selling this phone so cheap guys. its still imo the best phone out.
sure it doesnt have a 1080 screen or 13mp camera or 4.2.2 BUT, the screen size and spen are enough to keep me on it.
in short, STOP SELLING THEM FOR DIRT CHEAP
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No offense, but I'd trade my Note for a white N4 in a heartbeat. What's the condition of the Note 2?
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Just sold a Note 2 on craigslist for $450. Can't complain.

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No offense, but I'd trade my Note for a white N4 in a heartbeat. What's the condition of the Note 2?
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lol a smaller less powerful phone? without SD or a battery that last's almost 2 days? and no LTE ever (even tho i dont get signal lol) did i meantion small?
my phone is white...and mint....and so are all the other ones on there...so stupid.

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lol a smaller less powerful phone? without SD or a battery that last's almost 2 days? and no LTE ever (even tho i dont get signal lol) did i meantion small?
my phone is white...and mint....and so are all the other ones on there...so stupid.
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Note2s in my area just recently hit the $450 mark on Craigslist. I guess I better hurry up and sell my extra T889 Note2.

PC Jona said:
Checking swappa and the value of our phone's have gotten STUPID cheap.
380? the hell?
i bought mines in feburary on swappa for 590! lol.
stop selling this phone so cheap guys. its still imo the best phone out.
sure it doesnt have a 1080 screen or 13mp camera or 4.2.2 BUT, the screen size and spen are enough to keep me on it.
in short, STOP SELLING THEM FOR DIRT CHEAP
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Condition: "I have a White Tmobile Note 2 for sale. It is 16gb in comes with charger, case, front and back ghost armor screen protector. This phone is missing the spen as my son broke it one day. It does have one small ding on the top right corner most people wouldn't notice it but I did try to take a picture of it. Love this phone just switched carriers. It is Rooted running AOKP currently. I did not do a baseband update to enable LTE yet since its not in my market."
I just bought one a few weeks back for $450. It did include an otterbox defender, flip case, leather belt case and extra battery.

PC Jona said:
lol a smaller less powerful phone? without SD or a battery that last's almost 2 days? and no LTE ever (even tho i dont get signal lol) did i meantion small?
my phone is white...and mint....and so are all the other ones on there...so stupid.
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Less powerful? I think N4 beats the Note in benchmarks.
I'll give you battery life. It's impressive.
Size too. Very nice.
I'd rather have a solid feeling phone without SD than a plastic one that comes apart easily.
Is the LTE usable where you live? It's terrible here. And I feel like 3G has suffered as a result. I would miss my WiFi calling...
I just feel like it's been kind of a piece since 4.1.2. Battery life isn't great now either. Feels slower to me as well.
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Phone values ALWAYS decrease; it doesn't matter how "awesome" or whatever the phone is; there's always newer, better phones coming out. If you seriously thought the Note 2 would retain that value for however long then you're completely naive. With manufacturers putting new phones out quicker; the value of phones drop quicker.

I WANT the prices to continue to drop, I don't have one yet!
Of course that'll make it harder to sell my i717 and now T989's are 200 new with some accessories on HSN so I'm also boned there. Dammit. At least I think my tablet is holding some value.

this is why I typically buy phones about a year after their release. price decreases stabilize once a phone drops to the low $300 area. I wouldn't pay more than that for a phone. the only reason I got a Note2 when it came out in November 2012 is because I resigned a 2 year agreement with TMO and got the phone for $200.

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Less powerful? I think N4 beats the Note in benchmarks.
I'll give you battery life. It's impressive.
Size too. Very nice.
I'd rather have a solid feeling phone without SD than a plastic one that comes apart easily.
Is the LTE usable where you live? It's terrible here. And I feel like 3G has suffered as a result. I would miss my WiFi calling...
I just feel like it's been kind of a piece since 4.1.2. Battery life isn't great now either. Feels slower to me as well.
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First off, are you talking about Note or Note 2? This is Note 2 forum after all. Not knowing that it would be nonsense trying to reply, since Note 2 is much different and more powerful than Note. And yes, Note 2 is more powerful than Nexus 4.

I TRADED my Nexus 4 for a Note 2 and won't ever go back to a phone without a removable battery + expandable memory, not to mention USB OTG support. The Nexus 4 is GREAT for it's price, however if you have the money the GS3/Note2/GS4 definitely takes the cake. The only things I truly miss about the Nexus 4 is the software buttons (I've gotten so used to them that having to press a button my Note 2 for the home button feels weird), and better ROM consistency (It sucks being on the same phone as other providers but only being able to use only a select few that are meant for your carrier. The Nexus 4 allowed me to flash any ROM)

Prices will go down as newer devices come out. And the fact that there is no clear device on top at this point in time. Note 2 has qualities for some to be the top device. S4 has qualities for some to be the top device. And HTC One has qualities for some to be the top device. And for a few users Nexus 4 has the Google vanilla experience that would make that device on top. And not mention the S4 and HTC One Google experience devices would make one of those devices on top for some.
Not to mention a bunch of new phablets coming out to the market throughout the summer and autumn that for some could end up the top device. And would end up make Note 2 feel like an older device.
You get my point. There is no reason for Note 2 to stay at $699. I love this Note 2 device that I paid full price. But devices do evolve.

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Phone values ALWAYS decrease; it doesn't matter how "awesome" or whatever the phone is; there's always newer, better phones coming out. If you seriously thought the Note 2 would retain that value for however long then you're completely naive. With manufacturers putting new phones out quicker; the value of phones drop quicker.
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they always decrease but at this rate?
there is no other phone out there to replace the note 2.
the iphones value doesnt drop until the new one is announced. same should be true for this phone.
nothing else like it and no reason for it to be sub-400 at this point in time.
we still have~ 4 months till we see the next one.
and whoever said this phone isnt build solidly is out of their minds, this phones build is great. ok its not glass or aluminum, but the way it feels in your hand is very solid. i love it.

Thats right ive had mine now since it came out and its the best hands down
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PC Jona said:
they always decrease but at this rate?
there is no other phone out there to replace the note 2.
the iphones value doesnt drop until the new one is announced. same should be true for this phone.
nothing else like it and no reason for it to be sub-400 at this point in time.
we still have~ 4 months till we see the next one.
and whoever said this phone isnt build solidly is out of their minds, this phones build is great. ok its not glass or aluminum, but the way it feels in your hand is very solid. i love it.
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The prices drop when retailers or in this case carriers need to blow through inventory in preparation for a new model. They know far in advance of official announcements. The public has also become aware of impending announcements. Electronics historically experience awful resale value. It is what it is.
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once sites like Engadget start posting articles about Note3 leaks, then it is time to sell (if you're looking for the best resale value). In April I dumped my Nexus 7 tablet on eBay once I read leaks about its successor coming in July. Retailers like Staples and Officemax recently offered good discounts on the Nexus 7, probably in hopes of clearing stock. The writing is on the wall and the value of that device is starting to drop.

I wish I had the money to buy one out right from somebody but since I'm a broke M.F. I need to do that down payment biz at T-Mobile. And what really sucks is they just raised the down payment for the Note 2. I went in there 2 weeks ago and it was $150 down, then I went in there yesterday to browse and noticed it's now $200 down! And I looked on their website a few days ago and the N2 is more expensive then the S4! How does that happen it doesn't make sense to me. Prices might be dropping if you're buying somebody's used one but if you're buying one from TMO the prices haven't dropped a bit as of yet
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once sites like Engadget start posting articles about Note3 leaks, then it is time to sell (if you're looking for the best resale value). In April I dumped my Nexus 7 tablet on eBay once I read leaks about its successor coming in July. Retailers like Staples and Officemax recently offered good discounts on the Nexus 7, probably in hopes of clearing stock. The writing is on the wall and the value of that device is starting to drop.
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I usually just give old devices to friends or relatives who need a phone. Too annoyed to bother selling them LOL.
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