ICS will come to your phones, and the WFSDev Team would like to know which
ICS ROMs you are going to us or which you want for your WFS.
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Erm, this is probably a stupid question, but by this statement, do you mean that ICS is coming to our phones via Cyanogenmod, or are we getting an official upgrade to ICS? I saw someone's post about our phones not receiving any more upgrades in the future and this kind of confuses me :S
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Erm, this is probably a stupid question, but by this statement, do you mean that ICS is coming to our phones via Cyanogenmod, or are we getting an official upgrade to ICS? I saw someone's post about our phones not receiving any more upgrades in the future and this kind of confuses me :S
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Its no stupid question. We will get it from modpunk cm9. Google say that we could update your phone, but htc wont update it. Mabey with luck but i dont think so.
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is the ics roms like cm9 and miui v4 coming within the next few weeks or so?
Sense till Gingerbread looked great but it's just crappy on ICS........ even HTC thinks Sense 4.0 is too much bloated...
I m waiting for miui ics eagerly. Bcz basic ics is not more attractive than miui..and lack of miui rom we cant use miui .mdz(themes) files which have so many option for look change...but it seems 1.4.5 is crappy till now for daily use..so i m chekng evry time for progress...i thnk more devs shoud work together for it for fast updates...thnx for this thread.
I also expect for sense 3.0 rom...i thnk it is far away till nowww...no 1 dev seems to b interested in it till nw.
Sorry for poor english
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I will use MIUI. I think.
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CM9 ovbiously
obviously sense4 by benjamin!
thelegbra said:
obviously sense4 by benjamin!
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LOL, I wrote on IRC chat that he will port it
I'd use CM9 if it does away with the slightly choppy graphics of CM7. I've always been a fan of Cyanogenmod but I can't stand the laggy graphics, so I'm currently using a Sense ROM. However, the 'old' Sense is integrated with our devices and works more smoothly as a result (in my opinion, at least), but Sense 4.0 isn't, so I'm expecting the same choppiness outside of games. And another thing - if CM9 is stock ICS, then it will have those software buttons that would just take up what little screen space we have, am I right? MIUI, on the other hand, I've never liked. It looks like a bloaty cross between iOS and TouchWiz to me and I find both CM and Sense far superior to it.
So, to round it off, I'd use CM9 if it isn't choppier than Sense 4.0 and has no software buttons, since it offers more than Sense 4.0 (I prefer the old Sense, honestly), even if Sense does add a lot of polish to the bare ICS.
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Hi guys,
I'm looking for a new custom rom for my phone, just rooted it... all gravy but fancy trying something of the things those genius chefs have been cooking!
I was looking for a Gingerbread rom with the HTC Sense style theme, but can't seem to find one; does one exist? I've had a look through the index and the developmnent forums but can only find Froyo Sense Roms. It's not a huge issue but it would be nice as I quite like the Sense layout and apps n' stuff
Also, any recommendations on roms? I think I'm going to try some of the gingerbead ones regardless of the htc sense(I like the sound of some of the enhancements) but wonder if anyones using something they can whole heartedly recommend, froyo or no?
Yeah, I would be interested in this too...
Not gonna happen, would need a complete re-write of Sense
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Not gonna happen, would need a complete re-write of Sense
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Indeed. Try different roms and see which you like. Also, if you want different "styles" of sense, install a HD rom but it's still 2.2. Or you can just wait for 2.3 to be released for Desire which shouldn't be that long really.
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Indeed. Try different roms and see which you like. Also, if you want different "styles" of sense, install a HD rom but it's still 2.2. Or you can just wait for 2.3 to be released for Desire which shouldn't be that long really.
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Ya I've gone for a 2.2 for now, I imagine I'll stick with it for a while until I feel a real 'need' to upgrade to 2.3.
Until HTC releases the 2.3 update for the Desire(s), nothing can be done :/
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Yes wait for new sense gingerbread. Or honeycomb rom
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To be honest, I much prefer Gingerbread ROMs and have found Ultimate Droid 3.0.0 to be the best so far.
On top of this I use Launcherpro, which contains awesome Sense style widgets for calendar/facebook/bookmarks/contacts etc.
See it here:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/launcherpro/com.fede.launcher
I also use Fancy Widgets with the H7 clock theme as this gives me the Sense style clock on my homescreen as well.
See it here:
http://www.androidcentral.com/fancy-widget-looks-wee-bit-familiar
I love this setup
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I've actually seen a photo or 2.3.1 Sense 'running' as it were so it exists but it's on one of the new HTC handsets. Whether we'll see it on the Desire is another matter
was it the new htc desire 2 ? ? cant wait for desire 2 to be released.. im sure it packages gingerbread with sense and full support for honeycomb !
Honeycomb is for tablets only. There will prob be something similar for smartphones later on, maybe 2.4 or 3.0, who knows. But no, Honeycomb is non existant for phones for now.
HTC desire S
with sense and android 2.3.2 and now??
search on the youtube this sentence:
"HTC Desire S Videopreview da Telefonino.net @ MWC 2011"
I have faith it will come out until mid-year has the rom gingerbread-Sense
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Honeycomb is for tablets only. There will prob be something similar for smartphones later on, maybe 2.4 or 3.0, who knows. But no, Honeycomb is non existant for phones for now.
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2.4 has already been released, it's an update release from Google of 2.3 full of BugFixes. The Desire S will be released running 2.4, as will the HTC Desire when the new sense comes to it. Check out the thread I posted covering HTC's confirmation plans to update the HTC Desire range to 2.4. This includes all models of the HTC Desire released at the moment.
Also Honeycomb will be released for phones, just only phones that have Dual Core Processors, so thats every single HTC device at the moment out of that league. Hope I helped guys
Sort of it...
Okay, Here's what you can get if you son't mind it not being an ACTUAL Sense UI
Sense UI Themes for Launcher Pro
It's not perfect, but a quick google of Sense UI Launcher Pro theme brings up quite a bit...
i'm kinda new to this but i really recommend this oxygen-2.0-RC7
I think our wait will be over soon.
Already sense ginger is on you tube.
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Of course it's on YouTube - the Desire S has it out the box! Doesn't mean we'll get it soon, not until a dump is about (and not a test one doing the rounds)
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Of course it's on YouTube - the Desire S has it out the box! Doesn't mean we'll get it soon, not until a dump is about (and not a test one doing the rounds)
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Even with a dump, that new sense looks very demanding and the specs of the Desire S are slightly better than the Desire, still im not upgrading to a Desire S, my contract has almost reached one year, and after that I still have another year to go..
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Of course it's on YouTube - the Desire S has it out the box! Doesn't mean we'll get it soon, not until a dump is about (and not a test one doing the rounds)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955680
here it is
looks like you'r in luck.. its gonna be possible soon, there is a leaked rom out:
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forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=903507
sorry wrong link .. this is the correct one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955680
so lets hope the porting will start happening soon
I found that in the Nexus S forum that there is a HTC Sense ROM version launched as a beta. I would love to see it running on our GNex since the hardware is simular it should be possible.
The problem with Sense was that the battery drain was huge. But since GNex and HD2 devs managed to solve this in better kernels it should be possible to make it run like a charm on our GNex
I came from HTC HD2 and we had so much different ROM to flash like: WP7, all andriod version, windows 95, ubuntu, meego and much more... I kinda mis that on the GNex. A lot of HD2 devs are working on GNex so I hope that we have those possibilities also in the near future.
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I had a nexus s from what it looked like sense was hard as hell to get running.
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I don't think that will be happening. HTC doesn't use PowerVR or TI OMAP so proprietary stuff like that would be a ***** and it might not be worth the trouble. Also...you bought a nexus phone for the stock Android experience and latest and greatest...WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO KILL IT WITH FIRE?
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Kinda beats the idea of having a Nexus if you ask me.
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I really don't understand people on here!! If you want Sense, buy a HTC phone!!! People buy nexus's because they cant stand the skinning of manufacturers, and now people are asking for touchwiz and sense ports, which just slow the phone down! WWWHHHYYYY?!?!?!
people also buy the Gnex becuase of its developer support. Most people here love flashing stuff and though I love stock ICS I would love to try out the latest touchwiz or sense as well
One, i didnt bought the phone for plain ics experience but due to the hardware specs.
Two, I hope that the device will get more options in flashing ROMs. Not cuz i like Sense roms but just cuz its possible. And i'm more into plain ics dont get me wrong, also my HD2 had plain ICS without Sense cuz it runs better.
Thirth, I hope that ppl will see smartphones as "normal" computers and see the possibilities of running and developing other OS then Andriod. A lot of people are so short sighted and focus only on the Andriod experience. But there is more capable with the device .. so much more.
Take Ubuntu for example, most of our kernels are based on the ubuntu kernel. Its possible to run plain Ubuntu. The experience would be like a laptop. You can connect it to a screen and add a mouse. Ofcourse you could make a dual boot with the choice of ics and the other system with Haret. Running ICS as native OS and booting Ubuntu from internal storage with Haret.
Dont get me wrong I love the phone as it is and I love the way ICS works and would use it always as daily use. But from developing perspective there are so much more possibilities wich also can give the GNex a lot bigger status as best phone =)
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Btw the only thing not working correct one the Nexus S Sense ROM is wifi and its driver related. Ppl like Cotulla or TyTung have made a custom driver (wifi, gpsa, camera and lots more) so its not impossible .
I truely loved to see how ppl managed to make a custom driver for a camera and how it worked code wise since the standard device drivers are closed source. In my opinion those ppl are truely DEVs like the kernel builders. Crappy apps or game programmers arent true DEVs in my opinion .. i'm a app/game/web programmer my self and dont consider my self to be a true mobile DEV.
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casserly said:
people also buy the Gnex becuase of its developer support. Most people here love flashing stuff and though I love stock ICS I would love to try out the latest touchwiz or sense as well
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Bingo! 10 char
Brilliant. There are so many different launchers and really nice widgets on the Market. I just don't understand why somebody would like to kill his phone with Sense or Touchwiz. Latest Sense even looks like Launcher Pro. We do have the after Sense isn't it?
Sense isn't impossible as long as you port Sense, and not the whole damn rom. Biggest issue we saw when we tried a while back was gralloc. That may be less an issue now that there are ICS versions of Sense out there now.
I just read Team BAMF have something in the works as far as sense on the gnex.....
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I just read Team BAMF have something in the works as far as sense on the gnex.....
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That would be news to me, and it shouldn't be.
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That would be news to me, and it shouldn't be.
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http://www.teambamf.net/f56/sense-rom-3653/
Well,
Being the date on that is in December ...
The poster was incorrect as we made no such announcement. We do have 'sick' stuff in the works, but its not Sense. Our Sense expert gave it a shot and without having ICS HTC kernel source, its unlikely to work any time soon.
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Well,
Being the date on that is in December ...
The poster was incorrect as we made no such announcement. We do have 'sick' stuff in the works, but its not Sense. Our Sense expert gave it a shot and without having ICS HTC kernel source, its unlikely to work any time soon.
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So when the source for the HTC One X gets released then it will be possible?
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adrynalyne said:
Well,
Being the date on that is in December ...
The poster was incorrect as we made no such announcement. We do have 'sick' stuff in the works, but its not Sense. Our Sense expert gave it a shot and without having ICS HTC kernel source, its unlikely to work any time soon.
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Yeah old news, but now you have expert HTC man joelz9614 on the team
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So when the source for the HTC One X gets released then it will be possible?
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I don't know exactly. Erishasnobattery is the one who attempted it. I believe there were gralloc issues. Back then, we had no ICS Sense to work with though, so I don't know, it may be entirely possible now.
Hey...We should get this going!
Really unnecessary bump.
Either way, it's all about choice, people buy this phone for superior development, so people just like options.
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Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
Android 4.1 will get interactive notifications, overhauled search results, faster touch-screen response, and a tool to tell people information they may want to know about what's going on nearby and what they might need to know.
http://developer.android.com/about/versions/android-4.1.html
http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
I like it. Nice adjusments. Better than other i..OS-es in my opinion. Looking forward for the port.
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I like it. Nice adjusments. Better than other i..OS-es in my opinion. Looking forward for the port.
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If we get one. Ics is enough of a pain in the backside to get working with the defy.
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jelly bean on defy?
There may be a future development of android jelly bean for defy ? Or he does not have enough hardware?
froyo was best for defy
GB was compatible
ICS not so compatible
JB don't know if any possibilities
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froyo was best for defy
GB was compatible
ICS not so compatible
JB don't know if any possibilities
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i think a bit different
FROYO was the worst for defy
GB was very good
ICS is definitely the best ( some exceptions though )
JB - maybe it would be even better
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i think a bit different
FROYO was the worst for defy
GB was very good
ICS is definitely the best ( some exceptions though )
JB - maybe it would be even better
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I totally agree that Froyo was the worst, it's so slow and ugly :silly: Gingerbread was a huge improvement and Ice Cream Sandwich is an even bigger improvement, but at the moment not all the power of it can be harnessed by our DEFY, so I'd say that Gingerbread is the best. But Motorola is to blame for that, cause with those proper custom kernels, ICS would be flying So, if no way for custom kernels to run arises, I'm guessing that troubles with missing libraries will be even bigger with Jelly Bean, so we might just not even see a CM based on JB for DEFY
Found the Jellybean wallpapers and the new bootanimation over at Android authority!
>>>>>Android Jelly Bean Goodies<<<<<
Has anyone tried the new Jelly Bean VoiceSearch/GoogleQuickSearchBox on our ICS builds yet? I've been searching all over, no-one has yet to post it. You guys had any luck?
I've just tried Jelly Bean on Galaxy Nexus, it's way more faster than ICS because it has this Project Butter (newer hwa) which makes UI constant on 60FPS, so no more UI lags!
Jelly Bean is based on ICS so there won't be so much trouble about porting it because we already have ICS
I think the main question would be whether Project Butter will run with our Froyo/GB Kernel we have to stick with?!
This is one of Epsylon3's posts on Google+. He's just awesome!
Thats great !!
He can takes his time, we will apreciate it very much anyway.
defy developers are really making effort.
I didn't see that on any other device forums
The efforts have been fruitful since the long study made by our developers . They made it easy . since once you get to know how things work . and how the ideas are and what kernel functions and codes u shd be actually knowing . It becomes lots easy for implementation
The Best of The Best of the BEST Dev World
As said : Our defy Devs is the most talented and supportive in all thread with even an locked BL , Don,t know how to give them the deserved appreciation
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This is one of Epsylon3's posts on Google+. He's just awesome!
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Awesome..
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I want to know how ep3 it's going to manage the fact that chrome it's the default web explorer in jelly bean when it's not yet functional in ice cream sandwich...
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This is one of Epsylon3's posts on Google+. He's just awesome!
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it will awesome for all of us , if it happened some how , our developers are best of all others ,
we were just given eclair , we had froyo(modded roms) , GB roms ( best and great performance ) , and we had ICS all good , except some issues due to locked bootloaders, otherwise we at this time could had best ICS rom Available ....... developers are trying their best working day & night for us ,
I am sure that we all will have jelly bean ,( not fully functional though ), but our great developers will make it happen for us all .......
once this Bootloader thing gets solved some how , can't say how ,
we gonna have rocking roms with overall best performance than all the device present in this xda forum ...... and i can bet on this ......
atlast thanks to all the developers of DEFY & DEFY PLUS .......
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Hey Guys whats better my cousin keeps on bugging me and he dosen't like my oppinion so I'll aks you guys instead so that he'll finally stop so
What do you guys think
AOKP or HTC Sense?
Better in what way?
To me its all a matter of preference. I've never been able to stand a Sense ROM more than a week.
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Better in what way?
To me its all a matter of preference. I've never been able to stand a Sense ROM more than a week.
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Overall Performance and the Camera Quality
Again, its a matter of preference. Some people like Cameras apps from other ROMs, or off the market. Performance is a mixed bag too. I never had much luck with Sense 3.0 or 3.5 ROMs with performance, but other people say it works flawless.
Just give him the advice that probably 90% of the people here would: try them out and find out what works for you.
But if your looking for an opinion... the best cameras I've used have been in sense roms, but other than for the camera I can't stand sense, never cared much for eye candy.
I prefer speed and stability so I would say the best is aosp, aokp, cm, even miui. But never sense... again just adding my 0.02$
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Thankyou alot guys now I could review for my tests on Monday
If you're talking bout something at the level of ICS 4.0.4, then I would say 'performance' wise AOKP is going to be better in general, not as much 'eye-candy' and such you'd get from Sense. (As far as I know, no Sense ICS rom has a working camera yet).
But if you're talking Gingerbread and earlier, it's really going to depend on the custom Rom. For example AOKP is most likely going to out perform a stock sense install, but a custom Sense Rom could be on par.
Guess it depends on where your priorities are, do you need more eye candy, or are you aiming more for raw performance/functionality?
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If you're talking bout something at the level of ICS 4.0.4, then I would say 'performance' wise AOKP is going to be better in general, not as much 'eye-candy' and such you'd get from Sense. (As far as I know, no Sense ICS rom has a working camera yet).
But if you're talking Gingerbread and earlier, it's really going to depend on the custom Rom. For example AOKP is most likely going to out perform a stock sense install, but a custom Sense Rom could be on par.
Guess it depends on where your priorities are, do you need more eye candy, or are you aiming more for raw performance/functionality?
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There are some ICS Roms that have camera and camcoreder working on the DZ, like Ice Cream Jibwich and AOKP bulids for vision (those were the only ROMS I got to try, so those are the only ones I know. )
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There are some ICS Roms that have camera and camcoreder working on the DZ, like Ice Cream Jibwich and AOKP bulids for vision (those were the only ROMS I got to try, so those are the only ones I know. )
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But are either of them SENSE 4.0? I was specifically referring to Sense Roms. I know some work, as I'm using an ICS rom where it works.
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But are either of them SENSE 4.0? I was specifically referring to Sense Roms. I know some work, as I'm using an ICS rom where it works.
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ahh... well none yet but once the DHD gets that ICS update Dev's we'll get that Sense 4.0 camera up and running!
and hey why is that Kernel 3.0 from the DHD so important? the people from the Desire S forums have it already.
If ur cousin want a best camera yet performance out of it,get the xperia sense by taz instead..it doest use sense as launcher,but use xperia launcher which was really light..like running 17mb for me.. it's a fast yet with function of sense
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Alright, as we all saw in the last couple of days we got a new CM10 jb rom with minor fixable bugs. It's a step forward for our willy , but there's been a question bothering me and i hope most of you aswell: what are the actual highs and lows between a CM10 rom and especialy a CM7 JB styled rom (jellybread in our case) and also between CM10 and CM9 roms.
The actual question is: is it worth keeping CM10 as a daily rom with most of it's lags/delays knowing that there is something else to it than the simple "yo samsung user, i got CM10 on my willy too" ? Or we can use the CM7 jb styled or CM9 wich looks as good as the CM10 does but without the lagfest, the minor bugs (wich are not such a pain in the behind because the way i see it they should be fixed in about 1 week or so tops), and the excruciating pain I experienced when i was going through my settings, not changing anything, and it took my willy a good 6-8 seconds to show me the caller id after the ringtone started when my buddy called me.
Debate please and feel free to criticize my knowledge because i preety much started to dig deeper into android and willy since 1-2 weeks ago.
A really good question!
See there isnt much difference in terms of look between CM10 and jelly bean styled cm7 Roms.
There are a few good things about actual jelly bean like expanded/expandable notifications,better support for proxy connections etc.(We can get those kind of notifications in CMX as well )
Since,we dont have a gpu on our device,special features of ICS/JB like full hardware acceleration,butter project are pretty much useless for us.
Android has evolved to a great extent and has become much richer from times.Compare the looks of stock cm7 and now cm10,there's a huge difference.But its a good idea to have those rich looks with old speed and stability,without sacrificing a lot.
So if you ask me,I'll say cm7 roms will always win in the context of wildfire.You aren't sacrificing much being on gingerbread.
Yeah that's very true
CM9/CM10 are stable but somehow can't be bug free
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I try many cm9 roms, all is good but our Willy lacks of Gpu support, and also some bugs can't be fixed. CM7 is the best for stability and performance, and also with all mods you can have any style you want (CM9-10 style, MUIU, etc).
My vote goes to CM7 based JB style roms!
(and sory for my bad English).
Yes that is true. Cm7 jb are best bet for our Willy. Can anybody remember that HTC never released any update for our wildfire based on 2.3 version. But it is due to cm based rom and the efforts of all the developers that we are still holding our Willy with us in the modernized android world where i think processing powers are touching new heights. As @Wasimk32 said we don't have a gpu so hardware acceleration lag is pretty much going to haunt us. So i personally thank all the people who work for wildfire to breathe life into it.
And to @klyon too for keeping 2.2 rempuzzle alive which still make me feel what had HTC forget to make froyo on wildfire a complete rom. But i am thankful to them all this lead to revolution for our wildfire.
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