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[Q] Few Questions About The Processor

Since it's release date on October 10, I've been debating on whether or not I should get this over the Amaze 4g and after 4 days, I decided that the galaxy s 2 is the best choice for me. Now after watching some videos of the original galaxy s 2, I want to know what things were left out in terms of processing power. All I know is that it uses the snapdragon s3 processor which runs on an a8 cortex as opposed to the a9 in the exynos processor. I know that speed is one of the things that the exynos has over snapdragon and also the fact that it's asynchronous as opposed to qualcomm running one core at a time (correct me if I'm wrong here, not savy on processors). The biggest things I know I will use on this phone is Internet, photos, media, and some gaming here and there. On YouTube I saw the original galaxy s 2 capable of running an N64 emulator with virtually no lag, though I don't know if sound was included, and the same goes for the psx emulator. I also saw how it was able to play multiple video formats (including 1080p mkv files) with no issues whatsoever. I want to know if the snapdragon processor would still be capable of running emulators at similar speeds and still have support for multiple video formats even though it's not as fast as the exynos processor. Help is definitely appreciated.
P.S. This was typed on an iPod so sorry if there are any typos and grammar mistakes.

The Qualcomm chip is asynchronous.
Right now, I don't know how much Samsung did to fine-tune the system to accommodate the hardware differences....but like you said, the Qualcomm chip is A8 and the Exynos is A9.
That speaks for itself.

PoisonWolf said:
The Qualcomm chip is asynchronous.
Right now, I don't know how much Samsung did to fine-tune the system to accommodate the hardware differences....but like you said, the Qualcomm chip is A8 and the Exynos is A9.
That speaks for itself.
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I have no idea in the difference care to enlighten me or post a link?
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Mudkip said:
I have no idea in the difference care to enlighten me or post a link?
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Essentially, the Qualcomm chip is running on an older architecture relative to the Exynos, which is typically why the Exynos outperforms the Qualcomm even at lower clockspeeds. I'm guessing T-Mobile needed the SGS2 to be on par with with its siblings thus the higher clockspeeds (1.5ghz) to accommodate the older architecture.
The iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S if I'm not mistaken are also running chips that are based on the A9 architectures.
There is a difference when using the original SGS2 with the T-Mobile version...but it's not too drastic. What the CPU makes up in lack of speed, the big screen more than makes up for it.

I'm quite new to this forum, therefore I can't post external links yet. However, perform a google search for "How Samsung's chip change-up affects the T-Mobile Galaxy S II" the first link is an interesting article.

The normal clockspeed for this processor is 1.5GHz

kosnarf said:
I'm quite new to this forum, therefore I can't post external links yet. However, perform a google search for "How Samsung's chip change-up affects the T-Mobile Galaxy S II" the first link is an interesting article.
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What I took away from that article is that they went Snapdragon in order to use another modem chip to be able to do 42Mbps. The sacrifice is graphics performance.
Hmm, it plays my HD movie great. Not sure I will ever play a first person shooter on it...

heygrl said:
The normal clockspeed for this processor is 1.5GHz
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i was about to point out the same
the Qualcomm CPU stock speed is 1.5 Ghz, the same CPU on HTC Sense was actually under clocked to 1.2 Ghz
so the new HTC Amaze is using the CPU at is normal speed like on our phone

toy4x4 said:
What I took away from that article is that they went Snapdragon in order to use another modem chip to be able to do 42Mbps. The sacrifice is graphics performance.
Hmm, it plays my HD movie great. Not sure I will ever play a first person shooter on it...
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It also sacrifices general OS performance, at least in its current state. Looks like Samsung did no optimization on this guy for the qcom SoC. As it currently stands, I find it more laggy than my (admittedly) highly optimized Epic (single core). Hopefully things will improve with devs, etc.

I had the original and was using it on att gophone,
and sold it to get this. I needed to be on a contract and Tmobile was my only option so I got this
User interface was faster and smoother, apps opened and closed in the blink of an eye
games also ran with no lag whatsoever
Screen is bigger, no hardware buttons, and faster data is a plus for me
Tmobile is very spotty in my area tho
Sometimes I feel like I should have stayed
This phone has been behaving differently
The user interface is nearly as smooth and some of my favorite games lag
(Dragon fly, modern combat 2)
Still a great phone but these 2 Arras are disappointing for me
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Krooked22 said:
I had the original stay.
User interface was faster and smoother, apps opened and closed in the blink of an eye
games also ran with no lag whatsoever
This phone has been behaving differently
The user interface is nearly as smooth and some of my favorite games lag
(Dragon fly, modern combat 2)
Still a great phone but these 2 Arras are disappointing for me
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To be clear, gaming performance will never be as good on this platform. The GPU is severely weaker than the exynos models. What remains to be seen is if the rest of the OS can be optimized though.

ap77 said:
To be clear, gaming performance will never be as good on this platform. The GPU is severely weaker than the exynos models. What remains to be seen is if the rest of the OS can be optimized though.
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The OS definitely can be a little more optimized for this processor. This phone isn't a slouch though.
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OuncE718 said:
The OS definitely can be a little more optimized for this processor. This phone isn't a slouch though.
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It is a slouch relatively speaking, to the people who forked out full retail for this phone.
I might get this phone, if and only if, FULL hardware acceleration is not announced on the Prime, even then, I shall hunt it for free via retentions.

PoisonWolf said:
It is a slouch relatively speaking, to the people who forked out full retail for this phone.
I might get this phone, if and only if, FULL hardware acceleration is not announced on the Prime, even then, I shall hunt it for free via retentions.
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I am one of the people who forked out full retail. I can take a picture of my receipt to prove. We nit pick at every single phone that comes out. Trust me when I say this phone isn't a slouch. Yes it stutters once in a blue, but its fast and pretty smooth. All we need is an official update from Samsung to fix the issue or get a few custom roms. I've owned literally every smartphone that came out for T-Mobile this year and the previous years and I can honestly say this happens to be the fastest, even with the slight stutter it gets every now and then. It's just a slight software issue. I believe that this processor is capable of getting the job done.
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this is my third phone this year and im done .nothing to complain about if i start worrying about milliseconds then i would never buy another phone again because the galaxy s3 will be a few milliseconds faster than this one and so on and on. i made a promise to myself that im done till the end of nex year

tigerz0202 said:
this is my third phone this year and im done .nothing to complain about if i start worrying about milliseconds then i would never buy another phone again because the galaxy s3 will be a few milliseconds faster than this one and so on and on. i made a promise to myself that im done till the end of nex year
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Lol. I don't think your done. I think we all say this same thing. I bet I'll probably see you over at the Nexus Prime forum. I really love this phone and would like to say I'm done for the year too, but I think what makes some of us go for the next best thing is A. its the next best thing and B. we realize that our dev community gets smaller whenever the next best thing comes out so we want to be back in the loop of things. I'M JUST A PHONE SLUT!
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OuncE718 said:
II've owned literally every smartphone that came out for T-Mobile this year and the previous years and I can honestly say this happens to be the fastest, even with the slight stutter it gets every now and then. It's just a slight software issue. I believe that this processor is capable of getting the job done.
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I also paid full retail (pending Prime announcement), but I can tell you that my highly optimized Epic is smoother than this phone is right now in day-to-day use. Now, hopefully that means that there is a lot of room for improvement as this chip is theoretically faster and dual-core, but it is an open question of whether that promise will be realized.

ap77 said:
I also paid full retail (pending Prime announcement), but I can tell you that my highly optimized Epic is smoother than this phone is right now in day-to-day use. Now, hopefully that means that there is a lot of room for improvement as this chip is theoretically faster and dual-core, but it is an open question of whether that promise will be realized.
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We will be rewarded by both Samsung and the devs soon.
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Lol. I don't think your done. I think we all say this same thing. I bet I'll probably see you over at the Nexus Prime forum. I really love this phone and would like to say I'm done for the year too, but I think what makes some of us go for the next best thing is A. its the next best thing and B. we realize that our dev community gets smaller whenever the next best thing comes out so we want to be back in the loop of things. I'M JUST A PHONE SLUT!
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This ^

This processor is the same one used in the now defunct HP touchpad. People have successfully overclocked their touchpads to 1.7ghz with minimal to no additional drain on battery but a noticeable speed boost. I imagine our phones will react much the same way

[Q] Samsung Galaxy Nexus OR Quad Core Phone

Im deciding between getting the Galaxy Nexus for Verizon or a quad core phone. I was originally 100% going to get the Nexus but now that it is only 16 gigs and no expandable storage, I dont feel so safe getting it.
I like the whole concept of the cloud but what about when your on a plane or out of the country and do not have service or wifi. Other things that are causing me to stray from this device are the screen is RGGB (Pentile) and not RGB (Regular one), the top and bottom bezels are huge, its an OMAP processor (not the faster Exynos), and the processor is slower than the one in the Samsung Galaxy S2 (even though its overclocked). Things I like about this phone are that its going to get updates quickly, its stock vanilla android (no manufacturer skins), it has an ENORMOUS battery, and it has 4G LTE. When quad core phones come out, they will lose the bottom android buttons, have longer battery life, most likely better screens, 4G LTE, and also will be just as thin. If the quad core phone is made by samsung, than i plan on buying it immediately because TouchWiz is the least intrusive manufacturer skin, they are usually on the thin side, and have AmoLED screens.
I have an upgrade right now which i can give to my mom and i have another one in March. What should i do. I also want a quad core phone that has an unlocked boot-loader just incase i want to run a stock vanilla android rom (Verizon usually doesn't do this, just the nexus has an unlocked boot-loader). Please help
P.S. Im not buying anything thats not 4G LTE and im not buying anything off contract.

Wait for dual quad core phone better

Obvious answer is obvious.
Dual Core Padfone.

If you have an upgrade now and in March, why not get the Galaxy Nexus now and then upgrade to quad core next year (and give the GN to your mum)? Do you really need quad core? Are you really going to use a first gen quad core or might it be more sensible to wait until the issues are ironed out (such as battery life, app compatibility and who knows what else).
You can always for the next gen gadget .... but then you will never have any at all!

1.) Do you really need more than 16 GB?
2.) If you read a lot of the reviews and asked people on XDA, a lot of them said they don't notice any pixels and the screen looks great
3.)With the hardware acceleration and the optimization between hardware-software, many people are saying it is considerably faster than the Samsung Galaxy S 2
4.) As far as my knowledge goes, it isn't overclocked but its actually underclocked from its original 1.5GHz
5.) Good luck getting more than 4 hours of juice with a quad core phone with standard battery technology unless battery technology is SERIOUSLY revamped
6.) You seriously would compromise having Ice Cream Sandwich first AND vanilla android for a faster phone with the touchwiz launcher?
7.) As far as I'm concerned, dual core technology is good enough for a phone. I don't need a quad core proccesor in my phone as I have a desktop and a laptop at home. (Also, what do you really need that uses quad core technology?)
8.) The bootloader might not be unlocked with some of these other phones, the developer base will not be huge, and it'll take a long time for the software to be obsoleted on this phone, as it is a phone in the "Nexus" line by Google and as mentioned earlier, there is a huge developer base so custom roms would be built fast and I would say probably be one of the most functional
Note: This is biased as I already pre-ordered my Galaxy Nexus so some points may be exaggerated
Note 2: I feel that a dual core phone would suffice as right now as I have a Motorola Milestone (International version of the Droid), so also keep that in mind when reading my points

What are you talking about? It's already been confirmed that the Verizon LTE model comes with 32GB...
Besides, it'll be late-2012 before the quad-core phones start coming out.

If Kal'el does what Nvidia states just having that processor alone would increase battery life. Most of the work would be done on the companion core unless you need more power. We won't know exactly how well it works until we see it running in the real world.
I have to add the Nexus is UNDERCLOCKED for battery life.
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hotleadsingerguy said:
What are you talking about? It's already been confirmed that the Verizon LTE model comes with 32GB...
Besides, it'll be late-2012 before the quad-core phones start coming out.
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nothings confirmed at all....their website actually changed to 16GB

The website has been updated a second time...
http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs
says 32GB and not 16GB

I hear Verizon's version will be 32gb LTE with bigger battery for $299. Sounds perfect.
My PC is only a dualcore Intel, kinda weird with a quad core phone. Aside from gaming, not much will use all that power. Plus quads wont be start hitting until more summerish... with US carriers getting them starting Christmas. I don't think there is a need for quads ATM.
Plus I'd rather buy a quad tablet vs a phone.... that's where I do most of my gaming and core work.
Pick up the Nexus and the Quadcore Tegra3 Asus Transformer Prime. Perfect combination. Asus puts out updates as fast as Google does. Easily hand them my money in the future.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

OP, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357321 says now the web site list 32 GB only... Trolling or not, we don't know for sure

Ladrero said:
Wait for dual quad core phone better
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wait until octo core phones, those are the ones to wait for

POQbum said:
wait until octo core phones, those are the ones to wait for
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Sweet! Can't wait to run [email protected] on all my idle cores.

I've said this numerous times and will probably continue to say it several more times throughout the rest of this year and all of next year but whatever...
I respect the whole bigger better faster processor thing but seriously what game or application is out there that is seriously compelling enough to actually use all that power? Sure you can get a quad core Tegra 3 summer next year but I'd put any amount of money on it that summer 2013 people will be wanting Tegra 4's with higher clock speeds or additional cores and for what? There are a few games out there that will benefit from the added power but being that they'll have a high development cost and those developers want to sell as many of their games as they can every last one of them will be able to run at satisfactory levels on this phone which begs the question: are you really going to spend hours upon hours upon hours of your life playing whatever cell phone games make use of that awesome processor or do you just want it so you can show people your benchmark results?

You do really think a quad core processor is being made in the phones to just play games? Maybe you should do some more research on the actual benefits of a quad core phone. So many people are mis informed it's not even funny.
First, the quad core processors are MADE for more effecient battery life. The Tegra 3 actually has 5 cores, one companion core which runs at a very low clock rate and the numbers of cores being used changes due to the demand of the user.
Second, the 28nm gpu's will also be a lot more effecient on battery life. Still gotta read up on that. And the next generation LTE chipsets, for all you verizon folks, is going to be a lot more effecient as well.
I'm sick of people thinking that quad core processors are going to destory battery life without actually researching them.

graymonkey44 said:
You do really think a quad core processor is being made in the phones to just play games? Maybe you should do some more research on the actual benefits of a quad core phone. So many people are mis informed it's not even funny.
First, the quad core processors are MADE for more effecient battery life. The Tegra 3 actually has 5 cores, one companion core which runs at a very low clock rate and the numbers of cores being used changes due to the demand of the user.
Second, the 28nm gpu's will also be a lot more effecient on battery life. Still gotta read up on that. And the next generation LTE chipsets, for all you verizon folks, is going to be a lot more effecient as well.
I'm sick of people thinking that quad core processors are going to destory battery life without actually researching them.
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Exactly. Quads will have there place but is it reasonable to skip the Nexus now and wait... my answer is no.
Unless you have a late model phone already, the SGN seems a good buy right now.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

This is something where one could say that "if you could wait then wait until the 16 core phone comes out" ... obviously quad core phones are not available at this moment ... if you want to wait then there is always something better in the works.
With no quadcore phones available or announced yet ... I would say that go with GN LTE even though I would still wait to read some reviews and check developer base support because in the end LTE and battery are not friends and verizon is known to mess things up with the handsets. Like preloading bloat on a Nexus device. If custom ROMs is your thing (which I hope it is as you are here on XDA ) then wait for the reviews to come out.

Please do us all a favor and wait for the Quad-Core phone to come out, and then once the Quad-Core phone comes out in about 6 months, please come back to tell us that you're debating wether you should wait for Hexa-Core!
More Nexi available for us!

Edit: eh, way too sarcastic and nonsensical. I'm in a better mood now anyway. 4g is a good idea, that's majorly expanding next year. Quad cores will take a little time to impliment. Who *really* needs one anyway? Hell, I just got my first dualcore and ICS will be the only android thus far even able to begin utilizing it. Honestly, ill go out on a limb and say that the mobile phone market is the fastest developing consumer electronics sector on the planet. If you wait, something new will be just behind it. Play with the phones in the store, find one you really like and buy it. I like my rezound-defects aside-but I risk the possibility of no s off. if that's important get a phone that works within your constraints.

frostyllama said:
Edit: eh, way too sarcastic and nonsensical. I'm in a better mood now anyway. 4g is a good idea, that's majorly expanding next year. Quad cores will take a little time to impliment. Who *really* needs one anyway? Hell, I just got my first dualcore and ICS will be the only android thus far even able to begin utilizing it. Honestly, ill go out on a limb and say that the mobile phone market is the fastest developing consumer electronics sector on the planet. If you wait, something new will be just behind it. Play with the phones in the store, find one you really like and buy it. I like my rezound-defects aside-but I risk the possibility of no s off. if that's important get a phone that works within your constraints.
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Unfortunately I couldn't quote reply this in its original all be it creative form. As I read it right before going to sleep. Strange nightmares about long fingered zombies. Back OT you should just wait for quad cores, because once that baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious...
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GS3 flip cover-like case for E4GT?

Anyone know of a case that's like the GS3's Flip-Cover for the E4GT? I love the flip cover but won't be getting the S3 for a while, mid October at the earliest to possibly early next year.
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This is what I do. I never use clip casing at all. I always RESERVE on POCKET for my E4GT......Too bad for you I just Preorder my GS3 last friday (-_-)!

EggosEvo said:
Anyone know of a case that's like the GS3's Flip-Cover for the E4GT? I love the flip cover but won't be getting the S3 for a while, mid October at the earliest to possibly early next year.
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I'd like this too, if it exists out there anywhere.

yang704 said:
This is what I do. I never use clip casing at all. I always RESERVE on POCKET for my E4GT......Too bad for you I just Preorder my GS3 last friday (-_-)!
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Thanks for the input.... Since it seems like your gloating, Enjoy your DUAL CORE SAMSUNG WITH ANDROID 4.0. I'll keep the one I have for now(its also a dual core samsung with android 4.0). It has a lot of roms, and nothing wrong with it.
I would like a case like this also.

Yeah he is a douche, but that's like saying a dual core Intel atom is the same as a i3 not putting you down just read all about arm cortex a15 it's impressive

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Yeah he is a douche, but that's like saying a dual core Intel atom is the same as a i3 not putting you down just read all about arm cortex a15 it's impressive
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Are you really trying to equate a exynos to an atom, and a snapdragon p4 to an i3? if anything, it is exactly the other way around. The exynos is THE BEST mobile processor on the market... and it's truly sad that we will not be getting a exynos at all in the new phone. I will not be getting the SIII because of it.

lickarock said:
Are you really trying to equate a exynos to an atom, and a snapdragon p4 to an i3? if anything, it is exactly the other way around. The exynos is THE BEST mobile processor on the market... and it's truly sad that we will not be getting a exynos at all in the new phone. I will not be getting the SIII because of it.
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+1 agreed, so pissed we didnt get the exynos...

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+1 agreed, so pissed we didnt get the exynos...
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For me, I'm not necessarily pissed that we didn't get it, I'm just disappointed. I have heard great things about the S4, like it being one of the coolest(temperature wise) processors, a fast processor, and I've also heard that it's just as good as the Exynos. I for one am willing to try out the S4 on the Galaxy SIII(once I get it, hopefully october), and compare it to the performance I've had on my Epic 4G Touch with the Exynos.
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Lickarock, stick to FACTS the exynos in the galaxy s2 is a a9 cortex the snap dragon s3 is a15 and that's a fact with a white paper and diagrams described on arms website standing behind it..... the next question is, name one thing you want to do in android that needs 4 cores .... don't get me wrong I want 4 a15 cores to but not for operation in android .... so yet again I challenge a response were you show me software that even accepts more then 2 cores

Not standing what I already said. Benchmarks agree the lead between the quad and dual cores doesn't add up ..... because nothing is threaded for them yet nor do most applications need it ..... multiple cores are not a performance guarantee hence a atom vs a i3 ...huge performance difference right? Duh .... completely different core lay out with 3x the transistor count so yeah comparing quad to dual core is comparing apples to oranges the only reason desktops benefit..... is foreground isn't as key you are likely to need all 4 cores just for web browsing, torrenting, playing movie
Those things aren't as parallel in android..... for instance I can't watch A movie and web browse with my phone.. in sure that's coming but.... point is not even close to here yet..

So..........back on topic, any body have any idea where to get this case?
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EggosEvo said:
Anyone know of a case that's like the GS3's Flip-Cover for the E4GT? I love the flip cover but won't be getting the S3 for a while, mid October at the earliest to possibly early next year.
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Was anyone able to locate a case like this?
-I'm also interested. Thanks!

This site is the best I found. Not as thin or sleek as the case on the GS3 but it is a start.
http://www.pdair.com/index.php/smar...msung-galaxy-s-ii-epic-4g-touch-sph-d710.html

lickarock said:
Are you really trying to equate a exynos to an atom, and a snapdragon p4 to an i3? if anything, it is exactly the other way around. The exynos is THE BEST mobile processor on the market... and it's truly sad that we will not be getting a exynos at all in the new phone. I will not be getting the SIII because of it.
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Yep... That was my reasoning for not getting the G3, already have a strong dualcore device with ICS.
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rizdog23 said:
This site is the best I found. Not as thin or sleek as the case on the GS3 but it is a start.
http://www.pdair.com/index.php/smar...msung-galaxy-s-ii-epic-4g-touch-sph-d710.html
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I actually like a couple of those cases. Like the book case.
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[Q] should i sell my Gnex ?

Hey guys,
iam thinking of selling my galaxy nexus and buying one of the new quad core devices,
i was really excited about the new coming Huawei Ascend D quad since it will features the fastest CPU and a 16 core GPU. However, i have recently heard that it will be delayed because of some issues with the CPU until late Augest or September.
i already have a Sony Xperia S and after a small comparison between them in term of screen, camera, build quality, CPU/GPU i think that the other device was slightly better, i have already found a buyer but i still hesitate because the Gnex will get Android 4.1 and 5.x before any other device out there.
so, what do you think guys??
sorry for my poor English

Do what you want to. Move on.
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theking_13 said:
Do what you want to. Move on.
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The galaxy S3 has the same screen as the galaxy nexus. However, the last one has more pixel density because the screen is slightly smaller, in my opinion the sony xperia s has a better screen than both with 344 ppi reality display with mobie bravia engine,
The HOX has several problems already with wi-fi connection and some other software issues,
I dont prefer the user interface of the LG optimus 4X
Thats way i hesitate because i dont see a phone which is worth buying right now in my opinion
Besides all of them are cortex-A9
So, i think my point is clear now

mohammed510 said:
The galaxy S3 has the same screen as the galaxy nexus. However, the last one has more pixel density because the screen is slightly smaller, in my opinion the sony xperia s has a better screen than both with 344 ppi reality display with mobie bravia engine,
The HOX has several problems already with wi-fi connection and some other software issues,
I dont prefer the user interface of the LG optimus 4X
Thats way i hesitate because i dont see a phone which is worth buying right now in my opinion
Besides all of them are cortex-A9
So, i think my point is clear now
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If you know all that and have an opinion about what's the better off the phones why did you make this thread.
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kevinjgray88 said:
If you know all that and have an opinion about what's the better off the phones why did you make this thread.
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Because i think that buying 2 phones of the same generation of CPU/GPU was a mistake and i am trying to correct it by selling one of them and keeping the other one and wait for new and better devices.
I cant decide weather i should sell one of them or keep both of them
The Sony Xperia S has a wonderful screen and the Gnex will get the updates faster

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The galaxy S3 has the same screen as the galaxy nexus. However, the last one has more pixel density because the screen is slightly smaller, in my opinion the sony xperia s has a better screen than both with 344 ppi reality display with mobie bravia engine,
The HOX has several problems already with wi-fi connection and some other software issues,
I dont prefer the user interface of the LG optimus 4X
Thats way i hesitate because i dont see a phone which is worth buying right now in my opinion
Besides all of them are cortex-A9
So, i think my point is clear now
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The S3 has a better screen than the nexus. The S3 screen has pixels that are pushed closer together.
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joshnichols189 said:
The S3 has a better screen than the nexus. The S3 screen has pixels that are pushed closer together.
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I didn't know that, i only know that the S3 has a pentile screen just like the Gnex
If you check Wikipedia you will find that Exynos 5 CPU which should be better than the current Exynos quad spotted @ the galaxy S3 will be available at Q2 of 2012
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos

What can a quad core do that a dual core can't? (Besides scoring better in benchmarks which we all know are meaningless)
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iLeopard said:
What can a quad core do that a dual core can't? (Besides scoring better in benchmarks which we all know are meaningless)
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Hmm.. better battery life ?? Snapdragon S3 and TI OMAP 4460 are built on 45 nm
Exynos quad 32 nm and the snapdragon S4 28 nm
I know how my S3 works, you only get one CPU online + full adreno 220 support,
The other CPU will only work if you need extra power which is rare
So it is only about battrey life, you dont really need a dual core or a quad core CPU.
I like the idea of big. LITTLE CPU which is basically contains a powerfull cortex-A15 core and a cortex-A5 core which do easy to medium tasks efficiently, in case you need more power the other core wil be online to finish the job and then ofline again

mohammed510 said:
Hmm.. better battery life ?? Snapdragon S3 and TI OMAP 4460 are built on 45 nm
Exynos quad 32 nm and the snapdragon S4 28 nm
I know how my S3 works, you only get one CPU online + full adreno 220 support,
The other CPU will only work if you need extra power which is rare
So it is only about battrey life, you dont really need a dual core or a quad core CPU.
I like the idea of big. LITTLE CPU which is basically contains a powerfull cortex-A15 core and a cortex-A5 core which do easy to medium tasks efficiently, in case you need more power the other core wil be online to finish the job and then ofline again
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Back to my point, name me a few applications that use more than 2 cores. As far as the battery life, when you have all four running, battery is gonna take a hit
In the end its your decision. You're posting this on the GN forums, you're obviously gonna get a biased response
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Back to my point, name me a few applications that use more than 2 cores. As far as the battery life, when you have all four running, battery is gonna take a hit
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This is correct for the current quad core cortex-A9 CPUs
However, things will be different with quad core cortex-A15 CPUs since they are so efficient
nVidia tegra 3 has 4 + 1 CPU, so they are telling us that . Our CPU is not so efficient since it was built on 40 nm and that's why we need one underclocked CPU to save battrey for the background process, people like woooow this device has 5 cores !!!!! Iam going to buy it now but they don't really know the truth about it
In other words.. we will have "real" quad core CPUs with a cortex-A15 in term of battery efficient and speed

It's your phone make your own choice. Do you want us to choose what your eating for dinner too. It seems like an iphone would be great for you seeing someone else has to form your opinion for you
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kevinjgray88 said:
It's your phone make your own choice. Do you want us to choose what your eating for dinner too. It seems like an iphone would be great for you seeing someone else has to form your opinion for you
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Well, i respect your opinion and thanks for the one star rating.
However, i like to "learn" from my mistakes,
As i said before, i think that buying 2 phones of the same generation was a mistake
And that was not going to be happened if i asked people how knows about phones more than me before buying the second identical peice of plastic.
There is no harm in asking people for help and then make my own choice.
That's why we have this section, to "ask" other people
To get some informations from them
And then to make our choice

iLeopard said:
Back to my point, name me a few applications that use more than 2 cores. As far as the battery life, when you have all four running, battery is gonna take a hit
In the end its your decision. You're posting this on the GN forums, you're obviously gonna get a biased response
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When apps become multithreaded it will have more practical use. And what? The four cores don't always fire. Battery on my S3 blows away battery on my nexus and it is only 100mah larger than the extended battery.
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If no phone is worth buying to you as you said in post #3, then don't buy another phone?
You seem like you want us to justify YOUR purchase. Its your money, do some research, if you don't like the phones out right now, then wait. Simple.
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You should watch professionally done review videos/articles and see for yourself. Here are few.
www.phonedog.com
www.gsmarena.com
www.androidcentral.com

theking_13 said:
If no phone is worth buying to you as you said in post #3, then don't buy another phone?
You seem like you want us to justify YOUR purchase. Its your money, do some research, if you don't like the phones out right now, then wait. Simple.
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My question was,
should I sell my Gnex and keep the Sony,
And "wait" for new and better devices or should I keep both?
I don't know why ppl keep telling me its your choice
Ofcourse it is my choice, iam only asking for other ppl opinions
Which will help me to make my final descion.
Just because iam thinking to sell my Gnex doesn't make me a bad guy
Isn't it?
Please, no more Angry Birds, help me or don't waste my time

I wouldn't worry about it.

mohammed510 said:
My question was,
should I sell my Gnex and keep the Sony,
And "wait" for new and better devices or should I keep both?
I don't know why ppl keep telling me its your choice
Ofcourse it is my choice, iam only asking for other ppl opinions
Which will help me to make my final descion.
Just because iam thinking to sell my Gnex doesn't make me a bad guy
Isn't it?
Please, no more Angry Birds, help me or don't waste my time
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No ones the bad guy in here. Simply put, whether you know it or not, chances are you've already made up your mind and like others have said, you are just looking for justification for whatever you are about to do. That simple. Whatever responses you get here are completely biased and might not reflect on your way of thinking.
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you seem to have a lot of money so just keep both and buy a new one.

For people wanting a s3, just a little note

The us s3 is a dual core chip with only two threads available at one time at the most, same as our phone I presume. Which means you will probably are better off with the s2 until the s4 comes out.
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iwasblown said:
The us s3 is a dual core chip with only two threads available at one time at the most, same as our phone I presume. Which means you will probably are better off with the s2 until the s4 comes out.
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Seriously?
GSIII
GSII
Twice the RAM, can handle an SD card twice the size of the S2, the screen is almost a half inch larger, the screen resolution is higher by a long shot (1280x720 vs 800x400) and a larger battery. I'd say the dual-core processor is a non-issue. Aside from benchmarks, you won't be pushing either of these phones enough to truly take advantage of those two cores let alone two more.
Edit: Forgot to mention, the processor is the next gen Snap Dragon S4 whereas the GS2 has the Snap Dragon S3 processor. Newer tech, better use of what it has.

bobpantsspongesquare said:
Seriously?
GSIII
GSII
Twice the RAM, can handle an SD card twice the size of the S2, the screen is almost a half inch larger, the screen resolution is higher by a long shot (1280x720 vs 800x400) and a larger battery. I'd say the dual-core processor is a non-issue. Aside from benchmarks, you won't be pushing either of these phones enough to truly take advantage of those two cores let alone two more.
Edit: Forgot to mention, the processor is the next gen Snap Dragon S4 whereas the GS2 has the Snap Dragon S3 processor. Newer tech, better use of what it has.
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I agree.. I mean our phone kicks ass. But there is not doubt that the S3 is better
I like my Roms the way I like my women..... Clean and smooth

What's also great about the s3 is how they are identical wit all us variants. The body is the same with all s3 models. Which means development is merged with Sprint atnt n Verizon. Then you have accessories that fit all models which means more to pick from.just overall a better phone not just spec wise.
My wife still had the s2 which is why I'll be on both forums but I feel there is more potential with s3
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I got to play around with my coworker's S3 throughout the day and I cannot believe how smooth the UI is. I was amazed with everything. So many temptations...$349 GNex, SGS3, and of course the upcoming Nexus phone(s)...
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The s3 does have better hardware, but with the software available, you will notice very little, if any difference in anything you will use your phone for. You could have 8 cores, it's not going to make your phone do anything noticeably better than the s2 or gnex. I think until we get the software to utilize all the cores, the only things that really matter right now are better camera/battery/screen..
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Yea but two threads is two threads no matter which way you put it. Two core two thread processor.
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try being hard on the phone. Use WiFi to download a torrent, then use the phone for a call first, then try other things like a record call feature and then web browse and use audio streaming and see how it will work. It won't be very differently from the our s2.
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You forgot to mention the dual core s3 smokes every other phone in benchmarks, including the quad core s3.. The new cpu is a beast.
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I went to t-mobile today to see the phone in person.
First impressions were less than exciting. Even though the resolution is far better, its pixel arrangement makes it look grainy. Ours seems just as sharp from normal hand held position. Also, even though its much faster, ours keeps up with all the current software and games.
On our S2, GTA 3 runs smooth with resolution on high and draw distance about 1/3 (everything else maxed). The S3 could probably handle full resolution and distance, although thats quite a bit more screen space to fill...
I would appreciate a wider variety of accessories and rom options, however ill definatly wait until its cheaper, or see whats next.

Zomg you fools. The s4 krait CPU in the s3 demolishes EVERY SoC out except the quad core exynos. Stop comparing the s4 to the s3 in our phones just because its dual core. Put it this way. The s3 in our phone is the Intel core2duo. The s4 is the Intel core i3. Both dual core but the i3, because of revamped architecture and smaller manufacturing process completely destroys the core2duo. Actually it also out performs core2quads. Cores and MHz don't make the end product. Look up benchmarks and you'll see the s4 has almost twice the performance of any dual core SoC out. Even beats tegra 3...
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bkaltec said:
I went to t-mobile today to see the phone in person.
First impressions were less than exciting. Even though the resolution is far better, its pixel arrangement makes it look grainy. Ours seems just as sharp from normal hand held position. Also, even though its much faster, ours keeps up with all the current software and games.
On our S2, GTA 3 runs smooth with resolution on high and draw distance about 1/3 (everything else maxed). The S3 could probably handle full resolution and distance, although thats quite a bit more screen space to fill...
I would appreciate a wider variety of accessories and rom options, however ill definatly wait until its cheaper, or see whats next.
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The s3 has a PenTile display. Pentile = poop. And as far as the processor goes yes is very nice but I think that hardware has gotten to kind of a plateau in that even with the new quad cores out there the performance jump is minimal at best from ours. My Tegra 3 tablet runs ICS equally as well as my Snapdragon S3 and can't tell the difference.
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I think I will wait for the tmobile galaxy note instead

corwest said:
The s3 has a PenTile display. Pentile = poop. And as far as the processor goes yes is very nice but I think that hardware has gotten to kind of a plateau in that even with the new quad cores out there the performance jump is minimal at best from ours. My Tegra 3 tablet runs ICS equally as well as my Snapdragon S3 and can't tell the difference.
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People go overboard with the pentile thing. My epic 4g had a pentile screen. I did notice a difference between that screen and this one but it isn't a deal breaker. A pentile screen at a 720p Res on a 5 inch screen wouldnt noticeable whatsoever. The difference was minimal at 480p. I doubt you'd be able to tell a difference at a high res like that.
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jtroye32 said:
You forgot to mention the dual core s3 smokes every other phone in benchmarks, including the quad core s3.. The new cpu is a beast.
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Edit: Already saw benchmarks of both the international one and the u.s. version and exynos wins in benchmarks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=SSicyj9hbwc
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iwasblown said:
try being hard on the phone. Use WiFi to download a torrent, then use the phone for a call first, then try other things like a record call feature and then web browse and use audio streaming and see how it will work. It won't be very differently from the our s2.
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it won't be very different on the international S3 either because our OS doesn't even utilize all 4 cores correctly..... and wouldn't 2gb ram be better for multitasking given that the OS optimizes with the utilization of 2 cores.

It might eat up numbers and crunch in more numbers per second but it can't do more things at once than its supposed to. The Intel i3 is a dual core but it's limited to two threads I think and if that use the case do is the core duo. Even though numbers might be able to conceive at the right time if the processes were not stream independent, important things like talking recording downloading streaming and torrent cannot be done any better with a resume boost.
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guys, he;s not entirely wrong.. the s3 processor is only about 30% faster..and better phones are coming with better quad core processors(such as apq8064 with adreno 320, exynos 5250) which will all have native hspa+ and lte support..why opt for the us variant S3 is way beyond me..

AznDud333 said:
guys, he;s not entirely wrong.. the s3 processor is only about 30% faster..and better phones are coming with better quad core processors(such as apq8064 with adreno 320, exynos 5250) which will all have native hspa+ and lte support..why opt for the us variant S3 is way beyond me..
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people would want to pay another 600 even if it was just a 5% boost.

After the galaxy line I'm sticking with the nexus. This is wack to have such great hardware and outdated software with bloat
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