After talking with some sprint tech's for a while about issues not only in my area but with the phone in general I found out that they can very very easily find out if you are rooted with a click of a button. I noticed that every single rom that I have ever used always says the name of the rom in the build number area of phone info menu. That is an easy way for sprint to see that you are rooted. Any way to change that or can't rom devs just not edit that part with the name of their rom? I know what rom I'm using, why does it need to be there?
Rom developers do that so they can ID the rom for a reason; and if you're dumb enough to bring it in rooted and the check to see your system, of course they are going to know, a five year old could tell the difference. Either put on a stock rooted rom, change the build prop, or unroot period.
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Rom developers do that so they can ID the rom for a reason; and if you're dumb enough to bring it in rooted and the check to see your system, of course they are going to know, a five year old could tell the difference. Either put on a stock rooted rom, change the build prop, or unroot period.
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+1... even if that was left totally stock named, and the rom looked like a stock sprint rom, they could still tell you were rooted... all they would have to do is look on your sd card, or look for apps that only work if your rooted such as superuser, rootuninstaller or any file explorer... take the extra minute and unroot to take your phone in.
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+1... even if that was left totally stock named, and the rom looked like a stock sprint rom, they could still tell you were rooted... all they would have to do is look on your sd card, or look for apps that only work if your rooted such as superuser, rootuninstaller or any file explorer... take the extra minute and unroot to take your phone in.
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It's usually a good idea to
1. S-On the phone
2. Flash an unrooted stock rom
3. switch SD cards
4. Uninstall or do not install any apps requiring root permissions
5. Lock your market (with an app protector)
before taking it into any Sprint Store for service.
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Rom developers do that so they can ID the rom for a reason; and if you're dumb enough to bring it in rooted and the check to see your system, of course they are going to know, a five year old could tell the difference. Either put on a stock rooted rom, change the build prop, or unroot period.
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I'm not the dumb one here. Assuming always makes an ass out of someone. And it's not me.
The rom dev needs to ID them for what reason? I understand needing to identify the rom from others but I'm not seeing a reason that they need to ID it in this way.
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+1... even if that was left totally stock named, and the rom looked like a stock sprint rom, they could still tell you were rooted... all they would have to do is look on your sd card, or look for apps that only work if your rooted such as superuser, rootuninstaller or any file explorer... take the extra minute and unroot to take your phone in.
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-1... Again, like the other guy, you are assuming. Take the extra minute and think before you post, ask if I walked into a store first.
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It's usually a good idea to
1. S-On the phone
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3. switch SD cards
4. Uninstall or do not install any apps requiring root permissions
5. Lock your market (with an app protector)
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Must be contagious around here. If I was having problems with the phone in general I would first dump the rom and go back to stock to see if it was a issue with the rom or the phone. Common sense.
It was a phone call to sprint about network issues. About towers that were not working correctly and the tech I talked to at the Kansas center over all network issues could see **ALL** history of the phones ROM. Didn't matter what rom I curently had on the phone. It gets logged into the system. PERIOD. He told me it was rooted and told me the name of the rom installed and what day it was installed. I was kind of blown away.
I didn't walk into a store and say here's my rooted phone, fix it. Never heard of anyone unrooting a phone to call in about network issues. EVER! All I'm asking is is there a simple way to change the info that the Sprint system would see when it gathers the info about the phone to avoid detection of being rooted and a non stock rom installed. That's all. I understand you have life issues and feel angry at the world and need to make an ass out of yourself but if you can not just answer simply then just don't answer.
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All I'm asking is is there a simple way to change the info that the Sprint system would see when it gathers the info about the phone to avoid detection of being rooted and a non stock rom installed. That's all.
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No.
Thats the most insane thing ive ever heard. IM almost 100% sure that sprint can't read your ROM details. In fact in order for them to even trouble shoot over the air,they would need your permission to link to your phone using the main network. So dude im kinda sure that your back pedalling a little here after some responses. For future reference try wording your ?'s so they represent your intentions or future actions. Dont get all boohoo on us when you receive a little criticism. The way you are posting gives the impression that you blindly walked into a sprint store without unrooting. Next time just tell us what needs to be done ask for some help and someone will def hook you up right. :beer:
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Thats the most insane thing ive ever heard. IM almost 100% sure that sprint can't read your ROM details. In fact in order for them to even trouble shoot over the air,they would need your permission to link to your phone using the main network. So dude im kinda sure that your back pedalling a little here after some responses. For future reference try wording your ?'s so they represent your intentions or future actions. Dont get all boohoo on us when you receive a little criticism. The way you are posting gives the impression that you blindly walked into a sprint store without unrooting. Next time just tell us what needs to be done ask for some help and someone will def hook you up right. :beer:
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It may sound insane to you but that doesn't change the fact that its true. I know what the guy said on the phone. He said exactly what rom I had installed. You're kind of sure? So you have no idea what you're talking about you so you assume something? Lol The way that you are posting indicates you just want to start something with someone for no reason. Stop trolling and move on to the next thread.
They don't need any permission to link to your phone. They own the rights to access your phone by way of the contract you have with them. They have every right to check the connection between the towers and the phone. By doing that info gets logged to the system about the device connected.
I talked to tech's in the Kansas center that deals with network issues. These are not standard lvl 1 tech's. This guy called me back days later and dealt with me about the towers in my area that were under performing. I gave him my signal strength at multiple locations and he would (on his end) zoom into on each location and look at what was going on at each tower. Explaining to me that the tower at my work was 1.2 miles away and at that distance I should have full signal and even rolled out a van to not only check the strength in the parking lot of my office but various spots in that towers coverage. Determining that the tower had very low strength and needed to be addressed. Also figuring out that my phone was having signal issues near my home which was in range of 5 towers. I'm not back pedaling at all. I know what I'm talking about and i have no reason to ask a question with false pretense to get an answer that would not be pertaining to my actual issue. But since you like to assume everything just assume I didn't respond to your thread and troll some where else.
Wow trolling huh I simply stated what was present. In no way was I even been harsh. In fact I was referencing the way you worded your post that was causing the reactions you recieved. Like I said you had to have given them permission to link to your phone.....So that being said your gonna have a very hard time on xda when you bash people for heading you in the right direction. Good luck with being like that...
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I was under the impression that sprint serviced rooted phones, is this incorrect?
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Yes, most will. Unless you get some ahole (which has never happened to me). I've had hardware pieces replaced countless times in the last 18mo., and have NEVER unrooted. I do think the key, though is it's always been for hardware issues (primarily screens and cameras).
Hell, last time I took it in, I had ICS on it. Techs thought it was pretty cool.
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I'm not the dumb one here. Assuming always makes an ass out of someone. And it's not me.
The rom dev needs to ID them for what reason? I understand needing to identify the rom from others but I'm not seeing a reason that they need to ID it in this way.
-1... Again, like the other guy, you are assuming. Take the extra minute and think before you post, ask if I walked into a store first.
Must be contagious around here. If I was having problems with the phone in general I would first dump the rom and go back to stock to see if it was a issue with the rom or the phone. Common sense.
It was a phone call to sprint about network issues. About towers that were not working correctly and the tech I talked to at the Kansas center over all network issues could see **ALL** history of the phones ROM. Didn't matter what rom I curently had on the phone. It gets logged into the system. PERIOD. He told me it was rooted and told me the name of the rom installed and what day it was installed. I was kind of blown away.
I didn't walk into a store and say here's my rooted phone, fix it. Never heard of anyone unrooting a phone to call in about network issues. EVER! All I'm asking is is there a simple way to change the info that the Sprint system would see when it gathers the info about the phone to avoid detection of being rooted and a non stock rom installed. That's all. I understand you have life issues and feel angry at the world and need to make an ass out of yourself but if you can not just answer simply then just don't answer.
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why dont you quit being an ass and take the advice given to you... and yes you do appear to be the idiot here. everyone is just giving you the reason, if you want the real reason, ask a developer why. If you are that worried about it maybe you shouldnt be rooting. We try to be helpful here and look at what happens. If you dont like it here JUST LEAVE and take your idiotic comments/questions somewhere else. I am sure you will fit in on some of the other forums much better. And I always wondered why people flamed and bashed SHESH! I now know why. You try to help someone out with suggestions and answers and they get an attitude... to all those people i say F**K OFF!
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why dont you quit being an ass and take the advice given to you... and yes you do appear to be the idiot here. everyone is just giving you the reason, if you want the real reason, ask a developer why. And go ahead and take your phone in without removing all traces of an unroot. We try to be helpful here and look at what happens. If you dont like it here JUST LEAVE and take your idiotic comments/questions somewhere else. I am sure you will fit in on some of the other forums much better. And I always wondered why people flamed and bashed SHESH! I now know why. You try to help someone out with suggestions and answers and they get an attitude... to all those people i say F**K OFF!
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Did you read the thread at all? You're the idiot. Only one person answered the question, Shortydoggg. Everyone else assumed I took it into a store and didn't answer anything. As stated above, you do not need to remove root. Don't be a troll. You need to get out into the real world and leave your moms basement bud.
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Wow trolling huh I simply stated what was present. In no way was I even been harsh. In fact I was referencing the way you worded your post that was causing the reactions you recieved. Like I said you had to have given them permission to link to your phone.....So that being said your gonna have a very hard time on xda when you bash people for heading you in the right direction. Good luck with being like that...
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I'm not sure I gave permission. I was speaking to the guy on the phone and he was looking into different things and asked if i had updated to the most recent OTA update. Then proceeded to tell me it looked like I was rooted and had a modded rom. That was it, he didn't ask permission to access my phone.
You said I was back pedaling and that i was boohooing. Umm ya trolling! Being harsh whatever you want to call it. I didnt come after you, you came after me.
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Did you read the thread at all? You're the idiot. Only one person answered the question, Shortydoggg. Everyone else assumed I took it into a store and didn't answer anything. As stated above, you do not need to remove root. Don't be a troll. You need to get out into the real world and leave your moms basement bud.
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The point i was trying to make is, what does it matter what it says? if you dont like htey way devs make their roms, maybe you should make your own. Gotta love your maturity level here. You will not get the type of assistance you require here with this type of bashing and attitude.
Nope it needs to be unrooted and s off. I kinda agree with the other guy here mate. Your
post does suggest what he says it does. And flaming people for pointing things out like is f'd up. You need to-be able to handle constructive criticism to be on xda. Peeps here have heard it all,and don't take kindly to noobs acting in such a manner trust me on this one. Restrict yourself to just simply stating what and why, and you'll always be right. Cheers mate.
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Yeah my girl works for Verizon cs and she said there is no way that she can bring up someone's phone and tell if they are rooted or not.
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Wow. I am astonished by the level of ungratefulness going around
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Hey everyone.
So I have finally decided that the dust being under my evo's screen has gotten annoying enough to where i want to get it cleaned. Problem is that i'm rooted. My question here today is that will flashing a barebones stock rooted sense rom and removing the superuser app be enough to get by the sprint repair techs? I really don't want to have to unroot and then turn s-on.
Link to barebones rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251&highlight=stock+rooted
Any input?
Nobody can really say if it's enough or not. It's a gamble. I used a ruu for mine and put everything back to stock. I also removed my sd card because I had read about someone taking their phone in and the tech saw on the card there was root related stuff on there. The guy must have did something or the tech was an ass because he said they refused to fix it and flagged his account that it's a rooted phone.
If you can run the autoroot method, then it's not difficult to do. The script does all the dirty work for you.
If you were too lazy to put everything back to stock and they found out, you would be kicking yourself in the ass for not being more thorough. I'm not trying to be a **** or insult you. I'm saying better being safe than sorry.
If the tech discovers tampering, and they are a ****, then it's all over for your hopes to get it fixed man. Good luck
Here is where I got the one I used before taking it in. I got version 3.70 at the bottom.
http://www.shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Supersonic
Agreed
I agree with the hammer. It isn't that hard to unroot your phone at all, it should only take 15 minutes or so. I have heard of some Sprint tech's being cool, and working on a phone regardless of whether it was rooted or not. I have also read of people being given a hard time, and even having their account red flagged. There is no way of knowing if you will get a cool tech, that won't care, or a guy that takes his job too seriously and plays by allt he rules. Due to it being such an unpredictable outcome, I would recommend just unrooting before going in. If you rooted with unrevoked, flash their S-on tool in recovery, then RUU back to stock, or run a PC36IMG of a stock rom through the bootloader. If you never ran unrevoked or unrevoked forever, I don't think you need to flash the S-on tool, just running the RUU should turn your S-on. Once it's all fixed up, use one of the many root methods available, and it'll be like a clean start!
I appreciate both responses and am just gonna run with the unreveoked s on since that's how I rooted. My nands should still be good though correct?
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I appreciate both responses and am just gonna run with the unreveoked s on since that's how I rooted. My nands should still be good though correct?
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As long as you end up with the same phone (which you surely will). You just don't really want to interchange nandroid backups between different phones, as you run the risk of over writing your RSA keys. If you do, you need to remove the wimax.img from the nandroid backup before running it. And one more thing. Not to be paranoid, but I've seen someone get screwed from it...you should remove anything from your sd card that is related to rooting, flashing, etc. I've seen a guy report of getting his account redflagged and service was refused, because the tech found ROMS, kernels, mods, and other stuff on the sd card. That was supposedly enough evidence of rooting to red flag the account. Surely that is unlikely, but you never know. So it may not hurt to copy your sd card to your computer, then format the card before bringing it in. Or just taking the sd card out all together before you bring it in. Take it for what its worth, and good luck on getting your screen fixed!
I gave the advice that probably 99.9% will get you to where you need to be to safely get it fixed or replaced. It is up to you if you do or do not want to take a chance with a modded phone.
Hello,
I used to be a Service an Repair Area Manager. In the MI area.
I personaly did not care if the phone was rooted or not, being the screen is just dirty I personaly would have never even looked at software.
If Your really worried about your sprint tech's looking into things its also not hard to just take the digitiser off and clean it yourself, let me know if you want to know how to get it done.
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Hey everyone.
So I have finally decided that the dust being under my evo's screen has gotten annoying enough to where i want to get it cleaned. Problem is that i'm rooted. My question here today is that will flashing a barebones stock rooted sense rom and removing the superuser app be enough to get by the sprint repair techs? I really don't want to have to unroot and then turn s-on.
Link to barebones rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251&highlight=stock+rooted
Any input?
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Isn't this the millionth thread about should I take a rooted phone in?
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Non-software related issues do not warrant checking software. If you bring a rooted device into my store for hardware issues, I probably won't even check it. And if I do notice, it's not a problem since hardware != software.
Now if you come into my store complaining that your device is freezing, camera isn't working, etc and you're a jerk when I say it could be the root or ROM, then I'll flag your account.
All in all, if you're having software problems on a root device, don't take it to Sprint. Hardware is still a go.
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Non-software related issues do not warrant checking software. If you bring a rooted device into my store for hardware issues, I probably won't even check it. And if I do notice, it's not a problem since hardware != software.
Now if you come into my store complaining that your device is freezing, camera isn't working, etc and you're a jerk when I say it could be the root or ROM, then I'll flag your account.
All in all, if you're having software problems on a root device, don't take it to Sprint. Hardware is still a go.
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That is the same thing i would do, The worst thing is to have someone come in beeing a "Jerk" then yes I would flag the account. Never payes to be a "Jerk"
sand1303 said:
Isn't this the millionth thread about should I take a rooted phone in?
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Do I win a prize?
Hahaha! Not this time. But nice try. Hopefully u understand that it is a gamble and there is no real answer. It just depends on the tech and the actual store. My lcd was replaced and I was worried because I couldn't unroot mine without a display. Turned out they fixed it no questions asked. I got lucky. Some people don't. It is either rooted or not no matter how far u customize. And they either care or don't.
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If i dont accept the up coming ota? Im going to start working for them soon, dont wanna look bad.
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If i dont accept the up coming ota? Im going to start working for them soon, dont wanna look bad.
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They'll know if your phone accepted the OTA or not. I seem to recall reading that VZW would "assume" that if your phone didn't receive the OTA that you'd be rooted, or something to that effect.
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They'll know if your phone accepted the OTA or not. I seem to recall reading that VZW would "assume" that if your phone didn't receive the OTA that you'd be rooted, or something to that effect.
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Fvck.
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Honestly I wouldn't worry about it. Rooting just voids your warranty, so if they knew that when you try to get a warranty replacement, they may charge you full price. That's assuming they even check it. So if you're rooted and not making a warranty claim, the phone is yours, VZW will still take your money happily.
Whenever I've been in VZW stores, the reps even have theirs rooted. So I wouldn't worry about it too much bro!
Just act like nothing is wrong and keep it rooted. Seriously
Im going to. Eff them
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Im going to. Eff them
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That's the spirit
Like the people that work at VZW don't have rooted phones? LOL I think they do...
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They'll know if your phone accepted the OTA or not. I seem to recall reading that VZW would "assume" that if your phone didn't receive the OTA that you'd be rooted, or something to that effect.
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not trolling but. i dont see how they can see if you updated or not. i mean everything on the phone is google and not VZW so i dont see how they would know. if they did know then everyone with a root phone couldn't get a replacement and i was one of them. first phone i got the speaker went out in 3 weeks. i RUU to stock and took it in and they gave me another one that day.
if you do have the link to what you read i would like to see it. (again not being a d!ck. im just wondering.
OTA, you mean the new gingerbread we never received we are finally getting?
On the HTC incredbile right?
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The real question is why would Verizon care if you took the update or not?
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not trolling but. i dont see how they can see if you updated or not. i mean everything on the phone is google and not VZW so i dont see how they would know. if they did know then everyone with a root phone couldn't get a replacement and i was one of them. first phone i got the speaker went out in 3 weeks. i RUU to stock and took it in and they gave me another one that day.
if you do have the link to what you read i would like to see it. (again not being a d!ck. im just wondering.
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I don't have a link so I'm not exactly sure, but I saw something about how some VZW tech support could see the build # (and maybe some other things you'd see in the "about phone" menu) of the device you were talking to them on. So from there, it could be assumed you were rooted if not running a stock rom.
Again, assuming they could extrapolate that information in that specific circumstance, I don't know why they would care (aside from software-related warranty issues). Most reps I've talked to in a VZ store that had some measure of expertise in their field has a rooted phone.
I believe you have nothing to be concerned about with working for them and having a rooted phone I know a few people who work for Big Red, but they don't have their phone rooted because they just don't care for it (simple minded lol).
They will entice you to upgrade to the latest greatest new phone with your employee discount lol. But assuming you're going to stick with what you have, just don't go volunteering information unless they ask since it's no of their business.
But do be prepared to sign a buttload of nondisclosure papers that you won't share any inside information (but should hehehe).
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Like the people that work at VZW don't have rooted phones? LOL I think they do...
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they do, one of them pulled me out of the main floor once when i asked him about the gb update, then recommended this site
but, as far as the OTA gingerbread. don't take it, the risks outweigh the benefits.
risks
. No root for a while (months, or a year)
. Bloatware, that you can't take off, see risk #1
. no roms for a while either
to be honest, ive been running GB for a month now via gingersense, and i like it, yeah the 720p is choppy, yeah, i have other stuff.
but, i'm mainly concerned about the new radio and new kernal
so, take others advice, and just wait.
Will do. And anything i hear, ill post in general. The store im going to work at is pretty chill. I rooted and s-offed my first inc, broke mms (somehow) and they exchanged itbeven looking at the bootloader.
Your phone has now contracted phone AIDS. Shoulda used protection while rooting. LD
Okay, I have seen many post on hard brick and also seen the many suggestions. Tried all but it seems that I just have to bite the bullet and turn it in to either Sprint or Samsung. I loaded a international rootbox mod and hard bricked my phone. It recognize by my pc by the usb connection and assigning a com port. It dose not load the flash drives though. Odin dose not recognize the usb connection. I tried qubking777 methods(which seem to be used for only soft bricking), tried to put it every mode possible, and even removed the sd/battery then connect to usb. It gets a red led light for about a couple minutes but nothing in trying to flash via Odin. If anyone has anything new that I can try without jig/Jtag would be helpful. I have been claim to be a noobie at this from friend at work and know that the pc world is different from the smartphone world but some of the concepts are the same. That if you think the same way as I do. So please no crazy remarks that is any demeaning ways. I do have some experience with root and mods when I did this HTC EVO original.
Thanks
Its done the only way to fix is JTAG if you don't want to go through Samsung or sprint which would be insurance fraud anyway
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evo4gnoob said:
Its done the only way to fix is JTAG if you don't want to go through Samsung or sprint which would be insurance fraud anyway
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To my knowledge, none of the Jtag methods worked on the G S III [currently].
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To my knowledge, none of the Jtag methods worked on the G S III [currently].
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I've seen people report that they work. Never tried it myself, but thats just my 2 cents
@OP............have you read the numerous stickies, questions, threads, posts about what to flash and what not to flash? kennyglass123 and numerous others have made sticky threads about how to get started, what to do and not do after you root
Cmon dude, even though they may have the same name doesnt mean that software-wise theyre the same
I have an EVO 4G and an EVO shift 4G, but i dont go flashing roms between the two just because theyre similar
When you're doing this kind of system level, you need to know what you're getting yourself into, in the end you couldve just asked in the thread if it works for the sprint s3 or <insert carrier here> s3, and you wouldve gotten a "no"
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I've seen people report that they work. Never tried it myself, but thats just my 2 cents
@OP............have you read the numerous stickies, questions, threads, posts about what to flash and what not to flash? kennyglass123 and numerous others have made sticky threads about how to get started, what to do and not do after you root
Cmon dude, even though they may have the same name doesnt mean that software-wise theyre the same
I have an EVO 4G and an EVO shift 4G, but i dont go flashing roms between the two just because theyre similar
When you're doing this kind of system level, you need to know what you're getting yourself into, in the end you couldve just asked in the thread if it works for the sprint s3 or <insert carrier here> s3, and you wouldve gotten a "no"
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The mentioning of me doing things to the EVO and talking about the same thing was saying that I am reading and not jumping into stuff i do not know about when working with the S3. Yes they have different ways of rooting and flashing what not but the technology and concepts are the same. The only thing have jumped into over my head was that I grabbed the international load of rootbox mod because there was no clear indication what mod was what from their website. Once I loaded that and reboot, now I am a bricked. I am just trying to see if there anything that I haven't tried yet. It seems that I have indications that the phone has not gone to far and I can do something. Maybe something that works the with bootloader to get it to a point to clear and flash a restore..
The technology is not the same either
The international version is GSM while the sprint variant is cdma, the international version is quadcore while the sprint one is not
Software wise, the partitions line up, but incorrectly
The boot partition on the sprint variant lines up with the misc partition on the international, and a couple other partitions line up incorrectly as well
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To my knowledge, none of the Jtag methods worked on the G S III [currently].
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Mobiletechvideos.com are recommended by a lot of people
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The mentioning of me doing things to the EVO and talking about the same thing was saying that I am reading and not jumping into stuff i do not know about when working with the S3. Yes they have different ways of rooting and flashing what not but the technology and concepts are the same. The only thing have jumped into over my head was that I grabbed the international load of rootbox mod because there was no clear indication what mod was what from their website. Once I loaded that and reboot, now I am a bricked. I am just trying to see if there anything that I haven't tried yet. It seems that I have indications that the phone has not gone to far and I can do something. Maybe something that works the with bootloader to get it to a point to clear and flash a restore..
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Phones completely done dude. You can't do anything to recover it without getting it jtagged. You have no boot loader the partition for the kernel on the international S3 is the partition where our boot loader is stored so when you flashed that international rom it wiped your boot loader and wiped other important partitions
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Lol. Another one which found the correct model after hard brick his phone.
Sorry but JTAG is your only option.
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Lol. Another one which found the correct model after hard brick his phone.
Sorry but JTAG is your only option.
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Thank you for pointing this out. The OP also gets defensive when it's pointed out. He uses all the wrong stuff but when he breaks it he finds the right section to seek help. :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
he claims he is reading and not jumping into things, I guess he skipped over the word INTERNATIONAL as opposed to the one on this section SPRINT.
OP and as you wrote "please no crazy remarks" this and the others are not crazy it's just amazing how you did not find the right section to begin with but had no problem finding it now that you messed it up?
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So you guys want defensively. You getting it. Believe it or not, technology is blending together. I have background in IT field to see the history of it all for almost the last 20 yrs. Yes different manfactor and carriers define these phones but that is the only thing that seperate these from computer is the phone portion. Yes I have been following this fourm for a while which lead me to the rootbox mod page in the first place and known where to paste certain threads. I don't even know why I thought there was some very intelligent people on here that are nothing but very disrespecting when someone is looking for just the slightest information. If any one wants a extra check by there chuck wagon meter, please point me in the right direction. Can't believe that I posted any thing here after seeing this stuff in other post. THANKS EVERYONE!
Johnboy you have to understand we get three or four of these every week from people who do not read and just flash away. They find a rom on the international thread and flash it. Voilà 600 dollar paperweight. Then they do fraud and claim hey don't know why their device doesn't work. Who pays all of us with the continued rise in cost on our device.
It's funny though how every single one of them find their way to the right place and forum when they mess-up their phone. Amazingly!
This is the best place and forum to find the right information about your device. Swallow up a little pride own up to that you made a bone head move, and move on and stick around. You will find lots of support.
If not 'goodnight Johnboy'
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Johnboy you have to understand we get three or four of these every week from people who do not read and just flash away. They find a rom on the international thread and flash it. Voilà 600 dollar paperweight. Then they do fraud and claim hey don't know why their device doesn't work. Who pays all of us with the continued rise in cost on our device.
It's funny though how every single one of them find their way to the right place and forum when they mess-up their phone. Amazingly!
This is the best place and forum to find the right information about your device. Swallow up a little pride own up to that you made a bone head move, and move on and stick around. You will find lots of support.
If not 'goodnight Johnboy'
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This most be copy & pasted in every "flashed wrong/hard brick"
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Like my mamma always said. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say nothin! For some reason, i hear it in a southern accent. Even though I'm from upstate NY. These posts will never end. And insurance fraud claims will never end. Either way, the cost of our phones will rise.
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Like my mamma always said. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say nothin! For some reason, i hear it in a southern accent. Even though I'm from upstate NY. These posts will never end. And insurance fraud claims will never end. Either way, the cost of our phones will rise.
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Ya! Sounds like a $600 with a 5 years contract.
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Johnboy you have to understand we get three or four of these every week from people who do not read and just flash away. They find a rom on the international thread and flash it. Voilà 600 dollar paperweight. Then they do fraud and claim hey don't know why their device doesn't work. Who pays all of us with the continued rise in cost on our device.
It's funny though how every single one of them find their way to the right place and forum when they mess-up their phone. Amazingly!
This is the best place and forum to find the right information about your device. Swallow up a little pride own up to that you made a bone head move, and move on and stick around. You will find lots of support.
If not 'goodnight Johnboy'
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Thanks edfunkycold, I do understand that this get a little redundant. This is not going to get me to swallow on a bone head move. It is determination to find a solution and help find a end this repeated cycle for everyone. Seeing other threads the phone dose respond to get a port assignment and is requesting for a driver install. So that is some of good sign. Everyone keep your eyes and ears open and I will be back with something. lol
Kudos to you Johnboy for powering on to find a solution. Good luck to you.
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Thanks edfunkycold, I do understand that this get a little redundant. This is not going to get me to swallow on a bone head move. It is determination to find a solution and help find a end this repeated cycle for everyone. Seeing other threads the phone dose respond to get a port assignment and is requesting for a driver install. So that is some of good sign. Everyone keep your eyes and ears open and I will be back with something. lol
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I'm going to save some time and update your status for you. As you'd see this imformation if you searched...
The drivers its requesting is the "QHSUSB_DLOAD" driver. Its basically a piece of hardware waiting for firmware to be loaded at a factory level. You will not talk to it with any software you currently own, hence the jtag requirement. Spent months hoping to do the same. You won't I promise. If I'm not mistaken even Samsung doesn't fix it in the state its in. I believe they send it to qualcomm, could be mistaken there tho so don't quote me on that. And props to edfunkycold for telling it like it is. Needs to be said and youll probably recieve an infraction now for not holding his hand and telling him it will be okay. Telling people the truth tends to get you in trouble on here.
I know that I am going to get plenty of flack for this but after a week in working this issue. I had given up and turn it in for new. Even after building a jig that did not do anything at all. I know the jig works because it sent the new phone into download mode immediately but it did not reset the flash counter. Sorry for not finding a fix or even had to turn my phone in. In my field it takes breaking something to make sure you never do it again. So now I know not do flash anything for the GS3 I9300 for the the Sprint model.
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Thanks edfunkycold, I do understand that this get a little redundant. This is not going to get me to swallow on a bone head move. It is determination to find a solution and help find a end this repeated cycle for everyone. Seeing other threads the phone dose respond to get a port assignment and is requesting for a driver install. So that is some of good sign. Everyone keep your eyes and ears open and I will be back with something. lol
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Man, you are wasting your time, get the damn thing JTAG, period. If you are looking for a free fix, it AIN'T happening....the international rom hard bricked...period.
BTW, being an IT guy, you should have known to read before applying....you are more knowledgeable than some of the noobs. And by your negative responses, it is for sure a tech reply!
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IF ANYONE EVER GETS THIS IN DEVICE MANAGER......"QHSUSB_DLOAD"...it is hosed. Pay the 60.00 and get it over with.
And NO a jiig will NOT work!
now hit the THANKS button...heheh
Food for thought. As a part of the "T-Mobile My Account" app is a device health (beta) page that will scan the phone for various settings. If you tap on either the "Battery state" or "Device performance" and look for a box that says "Show all test" being rooted is among the list. When I read over the various warranties and agreements, I was looking specifically for anything about root, rooting, rooted, "" access. The best I found only mentions that issues caused by 3rd party software are not covered.
Seeing this makes me wonder if T-Mobile as part of its "un-carrier" move may be opening up to the idea.
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I work for tmo, so far, no change in our stance on processing warranties for rooted devices
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I work for tmo, so far, no change in our stance on processing warranties for rooted devices
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This is why I don't understand people's hate towards Samsung's Knox when they trip it due to rooting and custom TOM's.
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Cause on an HTC or nexus device you can completely go back to stock and have no evidence of rooting. With Knox, you're screwed. There's no resetting it. I don't know how LG works, this is my first LG device
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I work for tmo, so far, no change in our stance on processing warranties for rooted devices
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Just out of curiosity, what is T-Mobile's stance? I'm very new to TMo. So new, I switched/ordered my phone on Tuesday and due to a "Systems Issue" I don't even believe my phone has been shipped yet.
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Just out of curiosity, what is T-Mobile's stance? I'm very new to TMo. So new, I switched/ordered my phone on Tuesday and due to a "Systems Issue" I don't even believe my phone has been shipped yet.
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Honestly, if you return to stock (completely) and then go in for warranty, you should be okay. The official stance is no, but I know that 99 times out of 100 you're not gonna have an issue. Unless it's blatantly obvious that you caused your issue by messing with your phone. If you ever need anything when dealing with Tmobile feel free to pm me on here. That goes for anyone who reads this.
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Returned my g2 yesterday, wiped it but left it stock rooted with twrp recovery. She didn't say anything about it.
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Returned my g2 yesterday, wiped it but left it stock rooted with twrp recovery. She didn't say anything about it.
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Yup, and things like this happen where reps are completely oblivious. It's not uncommon.
I only said what I did because I know quite a few managers from the bay area to Sacramento, and a good portion of them are into rooting phones and train their staff (not cause they want to screw you over, just to make sure that they retain their job) to look for it.
So yeah, you'll probably be fine if you don't unroot your phone, but an extra 10 minutes of work won't hurt you.
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I usually get my best results by going into the store and being a real jerk, swear at the counter people, call them names then tell them you rooted the phone and now there are some issues....
JK,,, dont do that.
If you are nice and act dumb they will help you.
Hmm, I don't even HAVE a store around here, I'd be dealing with whoever is at the other end of the shipping tag.
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Honestly, if you return to stock (completely) and then go in for warranty, you should be okay. The official stance is no, but I know that 99 times out of 100 you're not gonna have an issue. Unless it's blatantly obvious that you caused your issue by messing with your phone. If you ever need anything when dealing with Tmobile feel free to pm me on here. That goes for anyone who reads this.
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thats very nice of you to offer that:good:
I agree with your comments; I have rooted every phone I have had over the years with ATT/Sprint/TMO, and NEVER "restored to stock" ANY of the phones I turned in for upgrade/repair/etc, and never once had an issue with ANY carrier.
If you act like a jerk, and hassle the store personnel, you will always have a problem; if you are polite, professional, and dont try to blame someone else for your problem, 99% of the time, you wont have a problem turning in a rooted phone.
Treat people like YOU want to be treated, and you will always be taken care of; at least that's always been my experience..
I have always just unrooted before I went in. Some times I have watched them check the phone and worried if they would try to update it. That was the case with both my HTC Evo 4g and Samsung Galaxy S3 with Sprint. I was trying to avoid the hboot 1.5 and KNOX updates. Only issue I had was when my mms stopped working. Even unrooted the stock messenger wouldn't send them. I was asked if it was rooted and was hoping the unroot file worked. Ever time the phones have finished as I was parking in the lot so I never really had a chance to make sure it was all back to stock.
When I picked up the G3 and changed to T-Mobile I asked and was told unroot it. If no one knows it was rooted then you're good.
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yeah, its so easy to unroot a phone, and if they do a quick check to see if its rooted, and they dont see that it is, they never go any further..
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yeah, its so easy to unroot a phone, and if they do a quick check to see if its rooted, and they dont see that it is, they never go any further..
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I have had to over the years exchange a few phones with t-mobile, been with them going on 8 years with 5 lines. I always unroot and set back to stock with that said tho, I had to exchange a note 3 for non working GPS and although I did set it back to stock I obviously couldn't reset the knox counter. So far, haven't heard anything about it and that was almost a month ago. While I have no official comment, I do believe t-mobile doesn't care so long as the issue is not related to anything you have done.
I want the g3, but am waiting for root. Just don't care for phones I can't restore to, uninstall unneeded apps etc.
i went on store at LG G3 launch and i showed my note 3 to swap with G3. via JUMP
my phone is rooted, i even teased the girl representative that i have the coolest ROM on it lol. she just smiled and check the note 3 physically. i even let her do a factory reset on the note 3. few mins later i have the black G3 on my possession
I'm not sure what the big deal is. If we can flash a stock ROM onto a phone I'm sure they can, probably easier than we can. It's the hardware condition that really matters.
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Treat people like YOU want to be treated, and you will always be taken care of; at least that's always been my experience..
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This is called The Golden Rule and XDA and the world in general would be a better place if it was practiced at every opportunity. ?
I just went to best buy and had the Samsung rep reflash my phone and holy cow its much snappier!
Seems to have less lag and doesn't freeze as much.
Also. When they flash it it doesn't delete anything on the phone. All my files and apps were still there!!!
"reflash" isn't a thing. What did they actually do?
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"reflash" isn't a thing. What did they actually do?
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Lol OK. I watched him connect it to the computer. It went into download mode showed and android guy logo with a 1 and it showed it downloading and then it went to the update screen and here I am.
I think he just cleared the cache.
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Let me know if anyone has tried this so I can do it. Don't want to clear cache and lose everything. Sorry I am used to TWRP2.
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I think he just cleared the cache.
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Lol okay. What ever you say. I know how to clear that it was a completely different screen
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Lol okay. What ever you say. I know how to clear that it was a completely different screen
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Did your build number change or kernel version?
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Lol okay. What ever you say. I know how to clear that it was a completely different screen
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There is an option to update and clear cache in recovery. Maybe there's a recovery software on the phone that let's you do a dirty flash. Just guessing.
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Lol okay. What ever you say. I know how to clear that it was a completely different screen
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There is a proprietary software for Samsung devices that phone companies/certified repair centers have that make everything one click.
For the life of me I can't remember the name of it atm.
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There is a proprietary software for Samsung devices that phone companies/certified repair centers have that make everything one click.
For the life of me I can't remember the name of it atm.
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Samsung Smart tool. It's somewhere between a cache wipe and a full Odin flash. I've heard it equated to resubmitting an OTA. Don't know how accurate that is.
First of all what do you mean samsung rep at best buy...second why the hell would you need to flash your brand new device in the first place....if there was some "rep" from Samsung it would be likely that protocol for flashing anything to a device from a customer entering your customers(best buy in this case) store is not likely and there is no reason for it....unless you ruined your phone by trying to "flash" something it would be the only reason to send it into download mode and reflash the Ota to fix it....but that would be a service center from att which would never exist in a bestbuy....and you would have lost all unless you store files and apps to either the sd card or the transfer program att uses not sure exactly what it's called but they can save what you want then just put it back when they are done usually only contacts apps and data files that are direct but you lose the saved Info from the apps because the cache has been wiped then when you turn on your phone it will be a little snappier...there is nothing besides the Ota that's even available to flash to it so you probably just cleaned up your cached and the phone isn't having to look for it anymore...
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First of all what do you mean samsung rep at best buy...second why the hell would you need to flash your brand new device in the first place....if there was some "rep" from Samsung it would be likely that protocol for flashing anything to a device from a customer entering your customers(best buy in this case) store is not likely and there is no reason for it....unless you ruined your phone by trying to "flash" something it would be the only reason to send it into download mode and reflash the Ota to fix it....but that would be a service center from att which would never exist in a bestbuy....and you would have lost all unless you store files and apps to either the sd card or the transfer program att uses not sure exactly what it's called but they can save what you want then just put it back when they are done usually only contacts apps and data files that are direct but you lose the saved Info from the apps because the cache has been wiped then when you turn on your phone it will be a little snappier...there is nothing besides the Ota that's even available to flash to it so you probably just cleaned up your cached and the phone isn't having to look for it anymore...
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Some of you are real dicks. Sorry. Not sorry . I'm not a noon and I've had every note device that's been put out. I don't have to prove myself to anyone this was said to help people and all you do is flame people . go back to 4chan or reditt
He flashed the last update for my phone. I watched him do it.
Sometimes when the phone is made there could be errors when the files are migrated for the first time.
I too have had best buy flash proper firmware to my note 3 when it was in an odd state due to my shenanigans. It is a full rom install.
The Smart tool does flash firmware. Generally it's non carrier specific Sammy "stock" FW but it's been a long time since I've seen it so that may have changed. You should upload a system dump for the devs to look at. It's probably nothing but it does have the off chance of being something they could use to find an exploit.
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First of all what do you mean samsung rep at best buy...second why the hell would you need to flash your brand new device in the first place....if there was some "rep" from Samsung it would be likely that protocol for flashing anything to a device from a customer entering your customers(best buy in this case) store is not likely and there is no reason for it....unless you ruined your phone by trying to "flash" something it would be the only reason to send it into download mode and reflash the Ota to fix it....but that would be a service center from att which would never exist in a bestbuy....and you would have lost all unless you store files and apps to either the sd card or the transfer program att uses not sure exactly what it's called but they can save what you want then just put it back when they are done usually only contacts apps and data files that are direct but you lose the saved Info from the apps because the cache has been wiped then when you turn on your phone it will be a little snappier...there is nothing besides the Ota that's even available to flash to it so you probably just cleaned up your cached and the phone isn't having to look for it anymore...
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Apparently you have not heard of the Samsung Experience Centers inside of BestBuys. We have one in my BB and there are a few hundred of them nationwide.
They are not carrier reps and they are not BB employees. They are Samsung sales reps and technicians and have full access to a multitude of proprietary tools.
I'm not a noon either (proud to be n00b) but raiu is tight, stop being dicks on here. Right now a number of devs have said they don't want to work on this device because the user community.
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I'm not a noon either (proud to be n00b) but raiu is tight, stop being dicks on here. Right now a number of devs have said they don't want to work on this device because the user community.
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Sadly this is the nature of the internet. It is full of armchair experts, who feel the need to comment negativly on everything that is posted. You get used to ignoring it. As you can see from this post, every post draws some (or a lot) of crap, and there are a few nuggets mixed in that make the questions, and comments worth it. Thanks for your information.
Could you imagine if it is a different build number, we would all storm Best Buy and push them to update out devices. It would be cool to watch. We would post lists of reps and their locations and schedules who were the easiest to talk into doing the reflash. Lets do it!
What is the build number on your system? Maybe you got the mystery update that AT&T hasn't (and likely won't) release....
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I'm not a noon either (proud to be n00b) but raiu is tight, stop being dicks on here. Right now a number of devs have said they don't want to work on this device because the user community.
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I know it's a shame. My friends a dev and said the same exact thing. But I don't Blame them at all. Idk what happened to the community and helping one another but all it seems like it's so can bash someone the best and it's an absolute shame...just my two cents
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We need mod that will close the threads, move the fights out of root threads, and possibly block the people stirring the ****. If this community wants to act like children, treat them as such, we have had to do it at xda many a time...... that being said, I have been here a long, long while. Back when ppcgeeks was actually competition, that long. In all the time I have been here, this community right here seems to be comprised of some of the whiney-iest assholes I have seen. Grow the **** up. You want root so badly, attract devs with more than a bounty. And remember it is a pledge if you go that route, it's a donation, not that dev works for you.
Be adults and more devs will come, or keep being like this and watch the empire fall, you guys decide
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We need mod that will close the threads, move the fights out of root threads, and possibly block the people stirring the ****. If this community wants to act like children, treat them as such, we have had to do it at xda many a time...... that being said, I have been here a long, long while. Back when ppcgeeks was actually competition, that long. In all the time I have been here, this community right here seems to be comprised of some of the whiney-iest assholes I have seen. Grow the **** up. You want root so badly, attract devs with more than a bounty. And remember it is a pledge if you go that route, it's a donation, not that dev works for you.
Be adults and more devs will come, or keep being like this and watch the empire fall, you guys decide
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Couldn't ******* agree more. ..nicely said
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The best are the people on here that say that they "need" root and act like it is owed to them. The reality is that nobody needs root, we simply want it. And it's certainly not owed to us.
With that being said, I want root just as much as the next guy or girl. But I'm not gonna cry or lose sleep over it if we don't get it. I love this phone as is.
So, back on subject.... Did you see anything change in the versions of about phone?