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HTC desire Vs Samsung Galaxy S vs iPhone 4

Hey,
I am confused and i dont know which one to buy.
Which one would you choose and why?

This is a Desire forum so Desire is going to win
I would say either iPhone or Desire, as samsung in my experience makes crappy products.
Try what's best for you, if you like all the customisation and stuff, go for the desire
if you like a smooth, reliable experience, get the iphone.
try them out for yourself before deciding, people here will just try and tell you that android rules and anything to do with apple sucks.

HTC Desire if you want cool Android Action from HTC and you dont want to spend money for a silly fruit!
iPhone 4G if you want to have the best Hardware and that little apple on the case but only if you dont have to save money...

Like the first poster said... You will probably find the Desire win because it is the Desire section.
My opinion - Desire is, and always will be, my love but that new iPhone sure does look amazing. I think that if I were to buy a phone right now, I would actually wait for the iPhone, the only thing that might stop me is the price. But hey, that's just my opinion, it's going to be your investment so you should make sure that it is right for you.

Well i want to buy a phone in the next month or so and i want one which would easily last 1-2 years without becoming obsolete.
thanks for the replies so far..

Though I would say if you wanted a Desire - to go for the Nexus One instead. if you don't want your phone to become obsolete soon then the N1 is your best bet on the Android platform.

and is it because it would get direct updates from google?
Also, I try to watch youtube videos on my current phone(samsung jet) and it completely fails.
I was wondering, can 720p video be played on android 2.2?

rars said:
Well i want to buy a phone in the next month or so and i want one which would easily last 1-2 years without becoming obsolete.
thanks for the replies so far..
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In that case, I'd go with the iPhone. You're guaranteed to get updates all that time, I mean they've only just dropped the original iPhone, so I think that shows a lot.

rars said:
and is it because it would get direct updates from google?
Also, I try to watch youtube videos on my current phone(samsung jet) and it completely fails.
I was wondering, can 720p video be played on android 2.2?
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yeah because of that, and also stock android is a lot smoother and less buggy than android with sense.
erm i can't see any reason why not, but when would you want to when the screen is only 400 px high in landscape?

Umm to view the video in higher quality?

Well im going to buy a new smartphone next month and I need to decide which phone to get between the HTC Desire and the Samsung galaxy S..
I decided to go with the Galaxy S since its hardware is way better..
And they said that its gonna have the 2.2
the only thing u will lose is the Sense UI (never had it..)

This is a Desire forum so Desire is going to win
I would say either iPhone or Desire, as samsung in my experience makes crappy products.
Try what's best for you, if you like all the customisation and stuff, go for the desire
if you like a smooth, reliable experience, get the iphone.
try them out for yourself before deciding, people here will just try and tell you that android rules and anything to do with apple sucks.
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I wouldent say they make crap products, they are good, its just there crap some what home made ROM's is holding them back alot lol
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Lol I have a samsung jet and it's basically crap. And I doubt samsungs customer service and doubt that they will release updates frequently.

rars said:
Umm to view the video in higher quality?
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720p refers to it's resolution (the number of pixels) as a 720p video has 720 horizontal lines of pixels.
but the desire display only has 400 horizontal lines of pixels. So whats the point of having all those extra pixels when the screen can't display them?
You need an HD screen to get the benefit of HD video, like an HD TV or computer monitor.

But it is quite possible that android will take over apple. And I also read that htc will soon release a phone with a 1.5 ghz processor. And I don't think that nexus one is available in the uk.

atomfix said:
I wouldent say they make crap products, they are good, its just there crap some what home made ROM's is holding them back alot lol
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lol ok I meant in my personal experience they have been crap.

samac92 said:
720p refers to it's resolution (the number of pixels) as a 720p video has 720 horizontal lines of pixels.
but the desire display only has 400 horizontal lines of pixels. So whats the point of having all those extra pixels when the screen can't display them?
You need an HD screen to get the benefit of HD video, like an HD TV or computer monitor.
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Ok lol. So in that case, can it play videos direct from full YouTube website?

rars said:
But it is quite possible that android will take over apple. And I also read that htc will soon release a phone with a 1.5 ghz processor. And I don't think that nexus one is available in the uk.
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N1 is available on vodafone at least, but not as good a deal as the desire.
and don't worry about processor speeds, they're pretty meaningless nowadays.
All the decent modern smartphones do everything instantly, the only place they're going to be different is benchmarks, which don't mean anything anyway.

rars said:
Ok lol. So in that case, can it play videos direct from full YouTube website?
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The Desire can, but in really awful quality because it uses the flash lite player. If you use the youtube app you get better quality videos.
This is another reason why the N1 is better, it lets you play youtube videos from the browser without using the flash lite player which is awful quality.

Can not root the desire and install the stock android rom?
If the YouTube app is anything like the mobile website for YouTube,then it's no good.

Rooted HTC Desire vs JailBreak iOS 4

hi, i'm now using a Cooked WinMO HTC Touch HD and very divided weather to go for HTC Desire or iPhone 4 .. Both has their Pro but i have only play with their default OS and seen video demos on their features..
1) ex-WinMO users, how do you bring all ur contacts, sms, calender over to HTC Desire ?
2) Does a Rooted HTC Desire has better multi-touch ? I seen a video comparing HTC Desire & Samsung Galaxy and HTC Desire seem to lose out ?
3) Are you able to play videos on FB on HTC Desire ? I have a crappy FB app on my WinMo which is useless.. hahaa
4) Any ex-iPhone JB users can share what's the pro & cons for both OS ?

doran_lum said:
hi, i'm now using a Cooked WinMO HTC Touch HD and very divided weather to go for HTC Desire or iPhone 4 .. Both has their Pro but i have only play with their default OS and seen video demos on their features..
1) ex-WinMO users, how do you bring all ur contacts, sms, calender over to HTC Desire ?
2) Does a Rooted HTC Desire has better multi-touch ? I seen a video comparing HTC Desire & Samsung Galaxy and HTC Desire seem to lose out ?
3) Are you able to play videos on FB on HTC Desire ? I have a crappy FB app on my WinMo which is useless.. hahaa
4) Any ex-iPhone JB users can share what's the pro & cons for both OS ?
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1) theres a few ways i think but ive never done it, maybe others can tell you!
2) the desire dosent have multi touch only dual touch, the iphone is better
3) yes & yes with flash in browser

Desire is the one
Hi,
I was / 'am' the biggest Apple fan out there, had all the iPhones and JB'ed all of them, thought what could be done on JB was brill....until I tried the Desire / Android which I bought because I was bored with the iPhone, expected to keep it a week and then fall back to the iPhone and sell the Android.
Well I ended up selling the iPhone and loving my Desire, everything you achieved by JB'ing the Apple you do out of the box with Android, then rooting it takes it to a whole new level of 'fiddling' and getting a config which you want.
Get the Desire, no question.

Thanks for all your reply..i'm inching closer to Desire soon ...
Just one last qns .. comparing the apps (not including games) is Desire able to match iPhone ones ?
currently on my mind i can think i need is audio translator..

I moved from WinMo (HTC Touch Pro) to a Desire. I was worried I would miss some of the WinMo functions but i dont !
Contacts copied straight across from PC using HTC Sync provided. I did miss the syncing with Outlook until i figured I could autoforward my account to a googlemail account and get the best of both worlds.
video is poor out of the box on the Desire but a quick download of Rockplayer brings it back up to (and beyond) WinMo video.
Games are much better for Android than WinMo (although maybe not yet on a par with iPhone for sheer volume of games - but how many games do you really need ??)
MS Office also worried me moving from WinMo but there are plenty of apps out there to sort you out.
All the stuff that you relied on chefs doing for you on WinMo you can do on Android just by downloading apps from the Marketplace.
Go for the Desire. I was dubious but Im now a committed Android groupie

I have an iPhone 4 (personal) and the Desire (work). If you are a casual user I would say go with the iPhone. If Facebook is a big concern I can say with confidence that the iPhone app is better.
IPhone 4 pros:
Amazing screen
Better keyboard (comparing to stock HTC sense keyboard)
Easier to use for the average user
Better battery life
Better multi-tasking (for the average user)
Desire pros:
More customization options out of the box
Better Google maps app
Better goggle integration (which I love)
I know some will disagree with me, but that is how I feel. I love both phones, and they both appeal to different parts of my personality. I think if you are not much of a tweaker then you are better off with the iPhone. Hope this helps.
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CreepingDeath said:
Better multi-tasking (for the average user)
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Serious question - can you explain why you think this?
Thanks,
Dave

Answering to question 1:
I ran a google sync on the HTC Touch Pro WM phone, then when i logged in on my Desire everything just reappeared!

foxmeister said:
Serious question - can you explain why you think this?
Thanks,
Dave
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Indeed i'd like to know how the heck the iOS4 can handle multitasking better than Android..!!
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foxmeister said:
Serious question - can you explain why you think this?
Thanks,
Dave
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I too am curious to your thinking. One thing I noticed from my friends iPhone is that when he brings up the multitasking thing at the bottom he can scroll through everything that's running as opposed to the 8 latest apps that the android shows. But I've never actually found it to be an issue personally.
Also in relation to the OT, I have never owned a iPhone (only my currently rooted Desire) but my friend who used to have a 3G and recently chose the iPhone4 over other choices says that while he is happy with how the iPhone runs, he does kind of wish he could customise it like I can with my Desire.

AndroHero said:
1) theres a few ways i think but ive never done it, maybe others can tell you!
2) the desire dosent have multi touch only dual touch, the iphone is better
3) yes & yes with flash in browser
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WTF, the Desire does have multi touch, you must be confusing it with Xperia X10 which has dual touch instead of multi touch as sony didn't want the possibility of being sued be Apple.
It should be noted though that Apple didn't invent multi touch.

I was using Touch Diamond with custom ROM for two years, Few weeks ago I switched to android (have choosen DESIRE).
I could not made a better choice. Not yet brave enough to ROOT it )))).
Really the phone is excelent, speed and UI is great, customization possibilities are as good as I was used with WM.
Flash is also working without any problems, so is multi-touch. Even iPhone 3GS users were impressed ))))).
T.

neo158 said:
WTF, the Desire does have multi touch, you must be confusing it with Xperia X10 which has dual touch instead of multi touch as sony didn't want the possibility of being sued be Apple.
It should be noted though that Apple didn't invent multi touch.
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It is a well known fact that the Desire, unfortunatelly, doesnt have proper multi-touch. It has a somewhat refined dual-touch ability, but in games, it has some issues here and there. You can see it downloading a simple app from the market for touch testing. Thats the only thing im somewhat jealous of the other multi-touch phones (galaxy s, iphail).
But the only thing im jealous the most about the iphone is its scratch resistant screen.. that makes me cry every time i realize that our screens are made from glass only.. :/
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Let me preface this with the fact that I am running both of these devices in parallel right now. Also, I have 5 of the desires in production in our corporate network (which I am in charge of troubleshooting)
As of yet, the Android doesn't have a way of naitvely handling the problem of multitasking for the average jo-blo. "dl this app, then every now and then check to see if apps are open, otherwise your battery will drain" Is what I find myself telling users.
This is not that case with the iPhone. Multitasking battery savings is done automatically for the average user.
I know that most people reading this are power users, so closing out of tasks is no big deal, however, this is an enormous task for the average user, and I really feel that Apple has done an awesome job with the whole multitasking idea, and have made it very easy for the average end user to use the phone.
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CreepingDeath said:
As of yet, the Android doesn't have a way of naitvely handling the problem of multitasking for the average jo-blo. "dl this app, then every now and then check to see if apps are open, otherwise your battery will drain" Is what I find myself telling users.
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Hi,
I disagree! I do absolutely nothing to "manage" multi-tasking on my phone and suffer no problems with battery.
In contrast, the vast majority of iPhone apps don't multi-task at all anyway, so I can't see how it can be better.
Regards,
Dave

CreepingDeath said:
Let me preface this with the fact that I am running both of these devices in parallel right now. Also, I have 5 of the desires in production in our corporate network (which I am in charge of troubleshooting)
As of yet, the Android doesn't have a way of naitvely handling the problem of multitasking for the average jo-blo. "dl this app, then every now and then check to see if apps are open, otherwise your battery will drain" Is what I find myself telling users.
This is not that case with the iPhone. Multitasking battery savings is done automatically for the average user.
I know that most people reading this are power users, so closing out of tasks is no big deal, however, this is an enormous task for the average user, and I really feel that Apple has done an awesome job with the whole multitasking idea, and have made it very easy for the average end user to use the phone.
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The iPhone's method of showing what apps are running is nicer and it is a pain to have to download an app just to see what is running on your phone. But on the Desire you don't actually have to go closing everything. Apps running in the background do not drain battery while sitting idle. Using apps like Advanced Task Killer should really only be used to close problem apps, not to constantly shutdown everything that is running.

Nosrulz said:
The iPhone's method of showing what apps are running is nicer and it is a pain to have to download an app just to see what is running on your phone. But on the Desire you don't actually have to go closing everything. Apps running in the background do not drain battery while sitting idle. Using apps like Advanced Task Killer should really only be used to close problem apps, not to constantly shutdown everything that is running.
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As of 2.2 we have a "sort-a" built in task killer so no need for 3rd party stuff... as for your other claim, indeed the apps dont drain battery at all (well..not as much..) so i really dont get it when people say that background apps drain battery and what else.. i dont have any battery drainage whatsoever, and if i dont use wifi at all, my battery can last 2 days easily...
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One X Browser?

As a sensation Owner, I'm planning to upgrade to An HTC One X but does the browser really suck? After watching this video, I'm kinda concerned how HTC failed to optimize the Tegra 3's power. 90% of the time I use my smartphone's browser, so I'm really concerned whether I should upgrade to the One X or not. Phonearena also said on their review that the browser felt choppy and buggy.
Please don't flame or trashtalk me, I am asking a legitimate question
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA5ZYjB3-7A

The browser is the best I've used....period!
The guy in the video is a tool, you can't test this browser just by zooming in & out, as this particular browser will give a quick flash of the screen as it wraps all the text to fit the screen.
... He did the initial smooth zooming & then tried to zoom out/in while the browser was trying to wrap the text, this is why it went all choppy.
It's smooth,
Zooming in & out is smooth
The flash of the screen is quick, & the text wrap is something ALL mobile browsers should have. (now I have an HOX, I'm glad not all others do this)
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OKay, thanks for the reply!

peacekeeper05 said:
As a sensation Owner, I'm planning to upgrade to An HTC One X but does the browser really suck? After watching this video, I'm kinda concerned how HTC failed to optimize the Tegra 3's power. 90% of the time I use my smartphone's browser, so I'm really concerned whether I should upgrade to the One X or not. Phonearena also said on their review that the browser felt choppy and buggy.
Please don't flame or trashtalk me, I am asking a legitimate question
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA5ZYjB3-7A
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Is that your only worry? Is that really going to be a deal breaker? Come on there are plenty of alternatives on the market,the phone is fantastic,dolphin works well on it. Come on get the phone,try it,if you don't like it take it back, simples!
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Nothing wrong with the browser but I now use chrome which is excellent
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Lol use chrome

eddyedwards007 said:
Is that your only worry? Is that really going to be a deal breaker? Come on there are plenty of alternatives on the market,the phone is fantastic,dolphin works well on it. Come on get the phone,try it,if you don't like it take it back, simples!
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yep. I like the stock browser's look hehe and I have bad experiences with the dolphin browser.
Will buy it and test the phone. I hope I won't get annoyed with that aggressive text reflow.

I actually like the stock browser over chrome beta. It is much smoother and I think that if you turn off the three-finger swipe thing from screen settings it gets better. Haven't tried it with that option since I turned it off right when I got the phone.

chrisjcks said:
The browser is the best I've used....period!
The guy in the video is a tool, you can't test this browser just by zooming in & out, as this particular browser will give a quick flash of the screen as it wraps all the text to fit the screen.
... He did the initial smooth zooming & then tried to zoom out/in while the browser was trying to wrap the text, this is why it went all choppy.
It's smooth,
Zooming in & out is smooth
The flash of the screen is quick, & the text wrap is something ALL mobile browsers should have. (now I have an HOX, I'm glad not all others do this)
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I Would Like To Ask One Question : Is It Possible In One X To Disable
The " Text Re-flow or Rewrapping" Feature On The Stock Browser? And Have
You Done It On Your Devise?

I have the EXACT issues with my browser as the video. It is incredibly annoying and is a dealbreaker for me . I have flashed two different roms and it has been the same experience since stock. Anyone what might cause the problem? Text re-flow is off already.
Just wondering if there is a fix for this because the browser feels very choppy and slow.

Is the official Facebook App sluggish on One X?

So here is the deal, I had a Sensation before my One X, and since this phone has Tegra 3 I would assume it run a lot smoother! And overall it does, actually every single app is much more fluid, and switching apps are fast and smooth, but the Facebook app is horrible! I know, it's always been, but compared to my old Sensation, the One X isn't doing well here..
Yes I know FriendCaster is available, but I actually prefer the official app on a phone.. So is anybody experiencing this? And is this really where we can see the power of custom kernels? Or am I completely stupid and alone on this..?
Edit: And sorry if this has been discussed.. Haven't been on here that much lately..
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I havnt noticed it as being any worse then my S2 but the official app, being the pile of gash it is, I wasnt expecting any improvement

not really sluggish at all for me
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It really depends what you call 'sluggish'. Coming from the Facebook app on an iPhone for example, the official Facebook app on the one x takes longer to start and also does not provide a smooth scrolling experience as on the iPhone.
Compared to other Android devices, it feels pretty much the same on most of them. Looking at LG 2x and SGS II they all feel quite the same.

The facebook app is just crap at the best of times, it was naff on my HTC Desire and its still crap on the One X, its nothing to do with the phone, just the app was made by monkeys... My mum could code a better app! Heh.
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Rageypeep said:
The facebook app is just crap at the best of times, it was naff on my HTC Desire and its still crap on the One X, its nothing to do with the phone, just the app was made by monkeys... My mum could code a better app! Heh.
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+1 - I HATE the facebook app. They really need to sort it out!
The worst recent change they made was to wait until you get a gps position BEFORE???? loading the news feed. so you could sometimes end up waiting a loooong time before you see anything. Its shocking coding by them.
I heard a while ago that they only have one dev working on the android one, but a team who do the iphone one. Maybe this has changed now, but if not, they need to consider some changes!

The FaceBook app could really do with GPU Acceleration.
Theres no reason to why clicking out the sidebar should be choppy, and the fact that the loading spinner is sluggish

I actually like how the official FB app is, EXCEPT how delayed and laggy scrolling can become!

lawrence750 said:
+1 - I HATE the facebook app. They really need to sort it out!
The worst recent change they made was to wait until you get a gps position BEFORE???? loading the news feed. so you could sometimes end up waiting a loooong time before you see anything. Its shocking coding by them.
I heard a while ago that they only have one dev working on the android one, but a team who do the iphone one. Maybe this has changed now, but if not, they need to consider some changes!
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Yeh that's real crap you can however stop it, if your rooted get lbe security it allows you to controll the permissions of everything system apps included.
I want to know why it need my location on the news feed? I could understand on the status updates screen.
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Couple of irritations from moving from DHD.

Having owned a desire HD for 2 years I have decided to move to the HTC one X. Overall I am quite impressed with the phone but have a couple of niggles that I hope someone can resolve.
1) when I pinch to zoom there is quite noticeable lag when the text reflows to fit the width of the page. This is much more then the desire HD. How can this be when comparing single vs quad core?
2) What happened to HTC news? I thought this was one of the best widgets for news. It has now been replaced by android news and weather which I dont like. Is there anywhere that HTC news can be installed again as this is one thing I will miss.
Thanks

eyeofthetiger said:
1) when I pinch to zoom there is quite noticeable lag when the text reflows to fit the width of the page. This is much more then the desire HD. How can this be when comparing single vs quad core?
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A couple of reasons. The "HD" display on the Desire was 800 x 480 wheras as the One X is 1280 x 720. That's 30% more pixels to move. It's also why the graphics benchmarks for the One X are lower than the One S which has the same resolution as the DHD. Samsung ditched reflow completely in the SGS3 to avoid lag. Owners are none too pleased. The "read" function that strips out graphics and expands text is lurking in the background even if you don't use it and is probably adding some weight to the screen painting. The browser is the stock browser tweaked (to death) by HTC. We're on 4.0.3 and there are browser improvments in 4.0.4 which is coming in the next update. HTC's made some browser changes in the 2.X update so hopefully that'll improve things. Meanwhile, the answer most people will give you is to usa a different browser from the market. I stick with stock because I really like the read function on mammoth text heavy sites like the WSJ.
2) What happened to HTC news? I thought this was one of the best widgets for news. It has now been replaced by android news and weather which I dont like. Is there anywhere that HTC news can be installed again as this is one thing I will miss.[/QUOTE]
Can't help you here.

HTC News is the same as Google Reader.
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BarryH_GEG said:
A couple of reasons. The "HD" display on the Desire was 800 x 480 wheras as the One X is 1280 x 720. That's 30% more pixels to move. It's also why the graphics benchmarks for the One X are lower than the One S which has the same resolution as the DHD. Samsung ditched reflow completely in the SGS3 to avoid lag. Owners are none too pleased. The "read" function that strips out graphics and expands text is lurking in the background even if you don't use it and is probably adding some weight to the screen painting. The browser is the stock browser tweaked (to death) by HTC. We're on 4.0.3 and there are browser improvments in 4.0.4 which is coming in the next update. HTC's made some browser changes in the 2.X update so hopefully that'll improve things. Meanwhile, the answer most people will give you is to usa a different browser from the market. I stick with stock because I really like the read function on mammoth text heavy sites like the WSJ.
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30% More pixels? Seriously?
840x480 = 384000
1280x720 = 921600
So that's over double the amount of pixels on the One X.
You are right about the browser changes though, although from what i've read the browser does consume a little bit more power in the new firmware, I think i lasted 15 minutes less on a full charge. Worth it if the browser experience is much better.
I am using the Chrome for Android anyway, much better than the standard browser.

ViDtje said:
HTC News is the same as Google Reader.
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Yes, but HTC News had a nice interface and was much more powerful.

maarten00 said:
30% More pixels? Seriously?
840x480 = 384000
1280x720 = 921600
So that's over double the amount of pixels on the One X.
You are right about the browser changes though, although from what i've read the browser does consume a little bit more power in the new firmware, I think i lasted 15 minutes less on a full charge. Worth it if the browser experience is much better.
I am using the Chrome for Android anyway, much better than the standard browser.
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It's 480x800, not 480x840. And One S has 540x960 resolution. U both failed.
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vaderx10minipro said:
U both failed.
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I bow my head in shame.

BarryH_GEG said:
I bow my head in shame.
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It was also a double fail as the phone screen is portrait, its not a TV. so its 720x1280 not 1280x720.
Also in reply to your questions>
1. Use Google Chrome the stock browser is ****E!
2. Use BBC news widget.