Having owned a desire HD for 2 years I have decided to move to the HTC one X. Overall I am quite impressed with the phone but have a couple of niggles that I hope someone can resolve.
1) when I pinch to zoom there is quite noticeable lag when the text reflows to fit the width of the page. This is much more then the desire HD. How can this be when comparing single vs quad core?
2) What happened to HTC news? I thought this was one of the best widgets for news. It has now been replaced by android news and weather which I dont like. Is there anywhere that HTC news can be installed again as this is one thing I will miss.
Thanks
eyeofthetiger said:
1) when I pinch to zoom there is quite noticeable lag when the text reflows to fit the width of the page. This is much more then the desire HD. How can this be when comparing single vs quad core?
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A couple of reasons. The "HD" display on the Desire was 800 x 480 wheras as the One X is 1280 x 720. That's 30% more pixels to move. It's also why the graphics benchmarks for the One X are lower than the One S which has the same resolution as the DHD. Samsung ditched reflow completely in the SGS3 to avoid lag. Owners are none too pleased. The "read" function that strips out graphics and expands text is lurking in the background even if you don't use it and is probably adding some weight to the screen painting. The browser is the stock browser tweaked (to death) by HTC. We're on 4.0.3 and there are browser improvments in 4.0.4 which is coming in the next update. HTC's made some browser changes in the 2.X update so hopefully that'll improve things. Meanwhile, the answer most people will give you is to usa a different browser from the market. I stick with stock because I really like the read function on mammoth text heavy sites like the WSJ.
2) What happened to HTC news? I thought this was one of the best widgets for news. It has now been replaced by android news and weather which I dont like. Is there anywhere that HTC news can be installed again as this is one thing I will miss.[/QUOTE]
Can't help you here.
HTC News is the same as Google Reader.
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A couple of reasons. The "HD" display on the Desire was 800 x 480 wheras as the One X is 1280 x 720. That's 30% more pixels to move. It's also why the graphics benchmarks for the One X are lower than the One S which has the same resolution as the DHD. Samsung ditched reflow completely in the SGS3 to avoid lag. Owners are none too pleased. The "read" function that strips out graphics and expands text is lurking in the background even if you don't use it and is probably adding some weight to the screen painting. The browser is the stock browser tweaked (to death) by HTC. We're on 4.0.3 and there are browser improvments in 4.0.4 which is coming in the next update. HTC's made some browser changes in the 2.X update so hopefully that'll improve things. Meanwhile, the answer most people will give you is to usa a different browser from the market. I stick with stock because I really like the read function on mammoth text heavy sites like the WSJ.
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30% More pixels? Seriously?
840x480 = 384000
1280x720 = 921600
So that's over double the amount of pixels on the One X.
You are right about the browser changes though, although from what i've read the browser does consume a little bit more power in the new firmware, I think i lasted 15 minutes less on a full charge. Worth it if the browser experience is much better.
I am using the Chrome for Android anyway, much better than the standard browser.
ViDtje said:
HTC News is the same as Google Reader.
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Yes, but HTC News had a nice interface and was much more powerful.
maarten00 said:
30% More pixels? Seriously?
840x480 = 384000
1280x720 = 921600
So that's over double the amount of pixels on the One X.
You are right about the browser changes though, although from what i've read the browser does consume a little bit more power in the new firmware, I think i lasted 15 minutes less on a full charge. Worth it if the browser experience is much better.
I am using the Chrome for Android anyway, much better than the standard browser.
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It's 480x800, not 480x840. And One S has 540x960 resolution. U both failed.
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vaderx10minipro said:
U both failed.
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I bow my head in shame.
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I bow my head in shame.
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It was also a double fail as the phone screen is portrait, its not a TV. so its 720x1280 not 1280x720.
Also in reply to your questions>
1. Use Google Chrome the stock browser is ****E!
2. Use BBC news widget.
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Hey,
I am confused and i dont know which one to buy.
Which one would you choose and why?
This is a Desire forum so Desire is going to win
I would say either iPhone or Desire, as samsung in my experience makes crappy products.
Try what's best for you, if you like all the customisation and stuff, go for the desire
if you like a smooth, reliable experience, get the iphone.
try them out for yourself before deciding, people here will just try and tell you that android rules and anything to do with apple sucks.
HTC Desire if you want cool Android Action from HTC and you dont want to spend money for a silly fruit!
iPhone 4G if you want to have the best Hardware and that little apple on the case but only if you dont have to save money...
Like the first poster said... You will probably find the Desire win because it is the Desire section.
My opinion - Desire is, and always will be, my love but that new iPhone sure does look amazing. I think that if I were to buy a phone right now, I would actually wait for the iPhone, the only thing that might stop me is the price. But hey, that's just my opinion, it's going to be your investment so you should make sure that it is right for you.
Well i want to buy a phone in the next month or so and i want one which would easily last 1-2 years without becoming obsolete.
thanks for the replies so far..
Though I would say if you wanted a Desire - to go for the Nexus One instead. if you don't want your phone to become obsolete soon then the N1 is your best bet on the Android platform.
and is it because it would get direct updates from google?
Also, I try to watch youtube videos on my current phone(samsung jet) and it completely fails.
I was wondering, can 720p video be played on android 2.2?
rars said:
Well i want to buy a phone in the next month or so and i want one which would easily last 1-2 years without becoming obsolete.
thanks for the replies so far..
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In that case, I'd go with the iPhone. You're guaranteed to get updates all that time, I mean they've only just dropped the original iPhone, so I think that shows a lot.
rars said:
and is it because it would get direct updates from google?
Also, I try to watch youtube videos on my current phone(samsung jet) and it completely fails.
I was wondering, can 720p video be played on android 2.2?
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yeah because of that, and also stock android is a lot smoother and less buggy than android with sense.
erm i can't see any reason why not, but when would you want to when the screen is only 400 px high in landscape?
Umm to view the video in higher quality?
Well im going to buy a new smartphone next month and I need to decide which phone to get between the HTC Desire and the Samsung galaxy S..
I decided to go with the Galaxy S since its hardware is way better..
And they said that its gonna have the 2.2
the only thing u will lose is the Sense UI (never had it..)
This is a Desire forum so Desire is going to win
I would say either iPhone or Desire, as samsung in my experience makes crappy products.
Try what's best for you, if you like all the customisation and stuff, go for the desire
if you like a smooth, reliable experience, get the iphone.
try them out for yourself before deciding, people here will just try and tell you that android rules and anything to do with apple sucks.
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I wouldent say they make crap products, they are good, its just there crap some what home made ROM's is holding them back alot lol
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Lol I have a samsung jet and it's basically crap. And I doubt samsungs customer service and doubt that they will release updates frequently.
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Umm to view the video in higher quality?
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720p refers to it's resolution (the number of pixels) as a 720p video has 720 horizontal lines of pixels.
but the desire display only has 400 horizontal lines of pixels. So whats the point of having all those extra pixels when the screen can't display them?
You need an HD screen to get the benefit of HD video, like an HD TV or computer monitor.
But it is quite possible that android will take over apple. And I also read that htc will soon release a phone with a 1.5 ghz processor. And I don't think that nexus one is available in the uk.
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I wouldent say they make crap products, they are good, its just there crap some what home made ROM's is holding them back alot lol
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lol ok I meant in my personal experience they have been crap.
samac92 said:
720p refers to it's resolution (the number of pixels) as a 720p video has 720 horizontal lines of pixels.
but the desire display only has 400 horizontal lines of pixels. So whats the point of having all those extra pixels when the screen can't display them?
You need an HD screen to get the benefit of HD video, like an HD TV or computer monitor.
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Ok lol. So in that case, can it play videos direct from full YouTube website?
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But it is quite possible that android will take over apple. And I also read that htc will soon release a phone with a 1.5 ghz processor. And I don't think that nexus one is available in the uk.
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N1 is available on vodafone at least, but not as good a deal as the desire.
and don't worry about processor speeds, they're pretty meaningless nowadays.
All the decent modern smartphones do everything instantly, the only place they're going to be different is benchmarks, which don't mean anything anyway.
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Ok lol. So in that case, can it play videos direct from full YouTube website?
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The Desire can, but in really awful quality because it uses the flash lite player. If you use the youtube app you get better quality videos.
This is another reason why the N1 is better, it lets you play youtube videos from the browser without using the flash lite player which is awful quality.
Can not root the desire and install the stock android rom?
If the YouTube app is anything like the mobile website for YouTube,then it's no good.
I've watched and read many reviews of the One X including the phonearena one, and while I disagree with the total score they gave to the One X (7.5/10 I think which is ridiculous, it's better than that) i did see some lag and stutter here and there so let me explain. According to the vids, sense restarts from time to time which is very annoying on a phone with monster specs as this One. Also the browser looks inconsistent as HELL!!! I mean you double tap to zoom in an area and it shows you another part of the page. Pinch to zoom doesm seem very fluid at first but once you keep doing it its like butter but still. Again on the browser, when you scroll up and down sometimes you get this menu at the bottom page that appears and that also look annoying. I hope you can download the stock ICS browser from google play but these things shouldn't happen. I personally don't have the phone yet so I still have to check for myself but from what I saw I am very unimpressed by the browser. Don't mean to troll or whatever you called it
get Chrome Beta
Fixed. No issues with chrome beta in any way on my one x
Wtrt said:
get Chrome Beta
Fixed. No issues with chrome beta in any way on my one x
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Could you post some footage of yourself playing around on the browser, please?
You know that there is a very good chance these stock browser issues will be sorted in the OTA update on the 5th right?
Wtrt said:
get Chrome Beta
Fixed. No issues with chrome beta in any way on my one x
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Yea but it doesn't support flash. I just finish watching a comparison between the one s vs one x browser, the one s destroys it in speed, fluidity. I'm just saying.
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You know that there is a very good chance these stock browser issues will be sorted in the OTA update on the 5th right?
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Those browser issues shouldn't happen in the first place. Look at the one s my friend.
I can't recall your problems.
My HTC One X browser is super-fast, fluid and overall.. just perfect.
I absolutely love it.
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I can't recall your problems.
My HTC One X browser is super-fast, fluid and overall.. just perfect.
I absolutely love it.
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That's cool. I just saw the phonearena review that's why I'm concerned but I'm glad you like yours!
Just use Chrome.
It's better than the stock browser even on my Galaxy Nexus.
dude, give it 2 or 3 months your talking like the phone has been out for a year..wait till dev's start making custom roms, firmware, radios, etc..all of those problems that you see or hear are going to be fixed soon
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Just use Chrome.
It's better than the stock browser even on my Galaxy Nexus.
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Yea but it doesn't support flash
I use to be a huge HTC fan till the GS and GS2 but I did own the sensation in between those releases but I usually buy an HTC and wait for CM to come out for the device to fix a lot of the junk HTC does in their devices. So what i'm saying is that if it isn't a HW issue i wouldn't worry about it not being fixed some how.
Just a thought.
Bxsteez said:
I use to be a huge HTC fan till the GS and GS2 but I did own the sensation in between those releases but I usually buy an HTC and wait for CM to come out for the device to fix a lot of the junk HTC does in their devices. So what i'm saying is that if it isn't a HW issue i wouldn't worry about it not being fixed some how.
Just a thought.
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You've got a point
So I am unsure how this all works but I was able to use Sense 4.0 on an HTC Sensation recently and it seemed to me that the browser used for Sense 4.0 is exactly the same as the Android Browser on ICS. I felt like it was snappy and responsive. Definitely impressed me
You are not alone. The browser on the one x is a mess. Unresponsive scrolling, unpredictable menu popping out at random, slow choppy zooming, funky text reflow, terrible memory management. Switching to another app or even the homescreen and back causes browser to quit and all the tabs to reload. Multitasking is non existent despite being the latest quadcore. Hate to say it but my old nexus one with a measely 512 ram and and primitive single core cpu provides better browsing and multitasks better.
Anyone tried Dolphin with OneX?
Found it pretty awesome on my Desire, but not seeing much mention of it being used with this device...
This really makes me laugh.... the phone is NOT officially released until Thursday, yet ppl are complaining about software bugs
OTA's
Custom Roms
Custom Kernals
Custom Radios
Just think of the HTC One X as a nice cold pint of Guinness - "Good things come to those who wait"
Or at least wait till Thursday
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You are not alone. The browser on the one x is a mess. Unresponsive scrolling, unpredictable menu popping out at random, slow choppy zooming, funky text reflow, terrible memory management. Switching to another app or even the homescreen and back causes browser to quit and all the tabs to reload. Multitasking is non existent despite being the latest quadcore. Hate to say it but my old nexus one with a measely 512 ram and and primitive single core cpu provides better browsing and multitasks better.
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The browser has that behavior on all ICS roms. SGSII and Galaxy Nexus included. It isn't isolated to this phone.
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The browser has that behavior on all ICS roms. SGSII and Galaxy Nexus included. It isn't isolated to this phone.
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I'm sorry but that is simply not true at all. The Gnexus browser is nearly perfect. Double tap zoom is very good so is pinch to zoom. I'm guessing downloading the ICS stock browser from google play might help. The one x browser is all over the place.
Just sayin', Phone Arena is really weird with their reviews.
Lumia 900, Windows Phone 7.5, get's a 8.
Infinitely superior One X gets a 7.8 just because it has a bulky soft keyboard(easily replaced), a clunky browser(easily replaced), etc.
Cum grano salis.
As a sensation Owner, I'm planning to upgrade to An HTC One X but does the browser really suck? After watching this video, I'm kinda concerned how HTC failed to optimize the Tegra 3's power. 90% of the time I use my smartphone's browser, so I'm really concerned whether I should upgrade to the One X or not. Phonearena also said on their review that the browser felt choppy and buggy.
Please don't flame or trashtalk me, I am asking a legitimate question
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA5ZYjB3-7A
The browser is the best I've used....period!
The guy in the video is a tool, you can't test this browser just by zooming in & out, as this particular browser will give a quick flash of the screen as it wraps all the text to fit the screen.
... He did the initial smooth zooming & then tried to zoom out/in while the browser was trying to wrap the text, this is why it went all choppy.
It's smooth,
Zooming in & out is smooth
The flash of the screen is quick, & the text wrap is something ALL mobile browsers should have. (now I have an HOX, I'm glad not all others do this)
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OKay, thanks for the reply!
peacekeeper05 said:
As a sensation Owner, I'm planning to upgrade to An HTC One X but does the browser really suck? After watching this video, I'm kinda concerned how HTC failed to optimize the Tegra 3's power. 90% of the time I use my smartphone's browser, so I'm really concerned whether I should upgrade to the One X or not. Phonearena also said on their review that the browser felt choppy and buggy.
Please don't flame or trashtalk me, I am asking a legitimate question
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA5ZYjB3-7A
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Is that your only worry? Is that really going to be a deal breaker? Come on there are plenty of alternatives on the market,the phone is fantastic,dolphin works well on it. Come on get the phone,try it,if you don't like it take it back, simples!
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Nothing wrong with the browser but I now use chrome which is excellent
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Lol use chrome
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Is that your only worry? Is that really going to be a deal breaker? Come on there are plenty of alternatives on the market,the phone is fantastic,dolphin works well on it. Come on get the phone,try it,if you don't like it take it back, simples!
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yep. I like the stock browser's look hehe and I have bad experiences with the dolphin browser.
Will buy it and test the phone. I hope I won't get annoyed with that aggressive text reflow.
I actually like the stock browser over chrome beta. It is much smoother and I think that if you turn off the three-finger swipe thing from screen settings it gets better. Haven't tried it with that option since I turned it off right when I got the phone.
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The browser is the best I've used....period!
The guy in the video is a tool, you can't test this browser just by zooming in & out, as this particular browser will give a quick flash of the screen as it wraps all the text to fit the screen.
... He did the initial smooth zooming & then tried to zoom out/in while the browser was trying to wrap the text, this is why it went all choppy.
It's smooth,
Zooming in & out is smooth
The flash of the screen is quick, & the text wrap is something ALL mobile browsers should have. (now I have an HOX, I'm glad not all others do this)
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I Would Like To Ask One Question : Is It Possible In One X To Disable
The " Text Re-flow or Rewrapping" Feature On The Stock Browser? And Have
You Done It On Your Devise?
I have the EXACT issues with my browser as the video. It is incredibly annoying and is a dealbreaker for me . I have flashed two different roms and it has been the same experience since stock. Anyone what might cause the problem? Text re-flow is off already.
Just wondering if there is a fix for this because the browser feels very choppy and slow.
Hi dear,
I'm so interested in getting htc one x (currently using iPhone 4s and htc radar) but there is controversy that the default browser of one x is not as smooth as people expected.
I think it's due to the text wrapping(and the page rendering is not as smooth either when you zoom in and out) so is it possible to turn off the feature?
I also want to see how well the chrome beta works on the one x. Can anybody take a video for me?
I don't own one yet so I can't test it out. Thanks all and enjoy your device!
Htc one x is the beast. Personally, I like the super LCD more than amoled.
Hi everyone
so, I'm buying a new phone, & I can't pretty much decide which of these 2 to pick & I have some questions
first, it's the one x lag in the browser & some other places I have seen in the reviews, is there any official update to fix & make it faster than nexus?? (I mean seriously guys this phone is 4core)
also one more thing, I like the pure ICS more than HTC's ICS, is there any rom that simply has everything like a normal ICS?
& where will be the menu button for the non ICS optimized app? in galaxy nexus it's on screen buttons so there's a solution... what about one x?
& last thing is ur realistic opinion about which one to buy? do you think HTC one X (now with all these lags) is like the motorola xoom with Tegra 2 when it came?
my point is I think it just need time for bug fixes? is that so or it's all hardware issue??
& thanks for your times
I currently own both. They are both great devices, so it really comes down to priorities:
1) Camera - HTC One X
2) Screen - HTC One X
3) Multitasking - Nexus
4) Reception (radio) - HTC One X
Nexus has a great screen, but One X is just that much better. Radio reception is also noticeably better on the One X, though it's not horrible on the Nexus (GSM). Camera is significantly better on the One X, but I didn't find the Nexus to take bad photos either.
If you prefer stock, then you should probably go with the Nexus. That's as stock as it gets, though there is a CM9 ROM for the One X now, if you'd rather have the camera and screen. I do not experience lag on my One X. The browser "lag" is simply the reflowing of text when you zoom in. It's not bad at all. The rest of the phone is smooth for me. I'm not really sure how it could lag because the phone kills apps almost immediately and frees up resources.
But that's the catch: If you multitask a lot, you probably won't like the One X. Multitasking works, but it's very limited (2-3 apps max) and not nearly as reliable and fluid as it is on the Nexus.
For me, I prefer the One X for the social contact integration, camera, and screen. But it all comes down to your personal preference.
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I currently own both. They are both great devices, so it really comes down to priorities:
1) Camera - HTC One X
2) Screen - HTC One X
3) Multitasking - Nexus
4) Reception (radio) - HTC One X
Nexus has a great screen, but One X is just that much better. Radio reception is also noticeably better on the One X, though it's not horrible on the Nexus (GSM). Camera is significantly better on the One X, but I didn't find the Nexus to take bad photos either.
If you prefer stock, then you should probably go with the Nexus. That's as stock as it gets, though there is a CM9 ROM for the One X now, if you'd rather have the camera and screen. I do not experience lag on my One X. The browser "lag" is simply the reflowing of text when you zoom in. It's not bad at all. The rest of the phone is smooth for me. I'm not really sure how it could lag because the phone kills apps almost immediately and frees up resources.
But that's the catch: If you multitask a lot, you probably won't like the One X. Multitasking works, but it's very limited (2-3 apps max) and not nearly as reliable and fluid as it is on the Nexus.
For me, I prefer the One X for the social contact integration, camera, and screen. But it all comes down to your personal preference.
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thanks, it helped me a lot, about one more thing, how's keyboard & typing in one x?
(since you talked of CM9, is everything the same as other CM9's? the keyboard, menu bla bla??)
& also about the button for the non ICS optimized app, where would you press for the menu button?
I'm sure there are more people curious, so I think it would be really helpful if you can post a short video or screenshot here, because htc one x doesn't have those on screen buttons
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thanks, it helped me a lot, about one more thing, how's keyboard & typing in one x?
(since you talked of CM9, is everything the same as other CM9's? the keyboard, menu bla bla??)
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The reviewers gave the HTC One X's keyboard a bad rap, but I like it. It has some useless arrow keys and takes up a lot of the screen, but I find typing on it a pleasure. And if you don't like it, it's easily replaced, even with stock ICS keyboard , if you want.
I honestly can't speak to CM9. I am running stock Sense 4.0 on my One X and have no intention of changing that. I would assume that, since it's a Cyanogenmod, it's identical to other iterations.
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mehras1991 said:
& also about the button for the non ICS optimized app, where would you press for the menu button?
I'm sure there are more people curious, so I think it would be really helpful if you can post a short video or screenshot here, because htc one x doesn't have those on screen buttons
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Right now, the orphaned menu button takes up a strip on the bottom of the apps, around the same place that the soft keys would be on stock ICS. It's annoying, but not a deal-breaker. As developers update their apps, this will change.
i have used them both today.. a friend of mine has nexus and saw me playing with my one x.. we played with them a lot and compared also..
first the screen: one X has a better screen with better white balance and there is more room in the screen since the buttons are not on it.. nexus has a part of the screen cut off all the time, so there is no full 4.7" screen for the user
camera: they are both good, we were looking the photos in our phones so no fair comparison was possible as long as they are not on the same big screen..
multitasking: even though one x has more user-available RAM it kills the background apps earlier.. i do not know why.. maybe it wants to keep the battery long-lasting since it is a 4 core device..
speed and performance: real difference there, we opened the browser and got the xda main page and searched some words.. nexus was freezing when typing and searching the word in the very letter-crowded page (so was my old sensation XE) but the one X is was able to find it in 1 second approx.
sound: i guess no winner here.. but when it comes to the earphones, one X has the beats audio..
gaming: they both play what we throw at but when it comes to the benchmarking one X is much better in 3d and 2d performance..
feeling on the hand: nexus is lighter but there is this bubbled part under it.. on the other hand one X has better feeling on your hand but wider with a coming-out camera which is easy to be scratched.. keep that in mind if you are planning to use it one-handed with small hands
and also;
nexus has no FM radio, one X has bigger memory..
and i believe that the vanilla experience is good looking but every new touch that knows what-to-do is bringing something new to the devices.. so, in my opinion HTC has modified the android very well..