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[Q] Thoughts on the T-Mobile data throttling

Let's put our heads together a bit. There is a method to defeat the throttling on the G2X. This proves that the throttling is client-side, not server-side. Does this mean that the throttling on the G2 is still done locally (on the phone) too?

Fail from top to bottom.
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Wrong section. Should be in Q&A.
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It is what it is....if you buy a gallon of milk, are you mad when its gone?
You know what you have, work with it.
If I need more than 2gb or 5gb, I would get home service and/or take advantage of wifi somewhere.
I personally dont like it but it is what it is. Adjust......
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2gb or 5gb you guys on tmous are lucky, our standard data plans in the uk come with 500mb or 750mb if your lucky. I have 1.5gb but it costs me an extra £10 on top of my base tariff.
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I agree with dwny, if you need more than the prescribed amount find a wifi hotspot or shell out for a static cable or dsl connection.
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Disagree totally a dev topic since it is system and coding related. please bring in link to g2x data throttling fix. If I Pay for an unlimited plan I don't want it limited.

Lol! That's too funny... Hey, I'd resurrect my old fix if it still worked and it would be it would be visible on the first page of our thread like it always was but its all controlled server side now. The guy in G2X thread hasn't had any real results because its based off my old hack. On occasion, a person will get the throttle message after going over their limit and not get throttled. That's just by luck and not by an edited services.jar.... just be wise and use as much data on wifi as you can and watch your limit. If you really need more, tmobile is offering a 10 GB data plan now for $60 lol! I know... its a rip off but its there if you really need it and don't have access to a real ISP...

Faster 4G = being throttled quicker!

Dam just got my galaxy s2 on the 8th and i'm already being throttled! got the 10GB data plan too. At 11GB ;(.that's from using Netflix once and steaming Pandora Radio, daily use! Not to crazy! Really wish they would do away with the data throttling. I mean come on! These devices use alot of data! One thing I like about Sprint! No slow down or charges for using alot of data! With faster speeds.brings faster slow down! Total BS!
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Basically unless you have access to wifi streaming music and video is out. This makes it impossible for me to stream music while i work, so it is back to the radio. This is going to continue until people tell the cell phone companies no this is not acceptable.

I have the 5GB plan and I've been doing a LOT with it; Downloading HD Videos off of youtube, downloading music, Web browsing, streaming youtube videos, tethering to my computer to play online games (which is smooth and lag-free), and I've used up about 1.6GB. I can't even imagine using 10GB in that small of a time frame.
You used 10GB just from streaming Netflix once and using Pandora everyday since the 8th of December? That number sounds very high. Do you have some sort of data manager that tracks how much data (in MB) your apps are using up?
I do agree that with these blazing speeds, it is easy to go nuts and just go on a rampage. I know that if I didn't restrain myself sometimes, I could use up my data cap in a couple days. Kind of a bummer that we can't truly enjoy the phone without having to worry about being throttled =/

rdfry said:
Basically unless you have access to wifi streaming music and video is out. This makes it impossible for me to stream music while i work, so it is back to the radio. This is going to continue until people tell the cell phone companies no this is not acceptable.
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+1 million thousand

Me being stingy and only spending 10$ a month for data (200Mb limited). I have to be soooo stingy with my data
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+1 million thousand
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It's over 9000!
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The only thing that uses more data is running speedtests or having higher quality music/video streams (and higher speedtest download files) because your connection is faster.
Solution: stop streaming so much, use WiFi more. They can't do away with caps because your speeds wouldn't be fast anymore.. duh.

darkside79 said:
Dam just got my galaxy s2 on the 8th and i'm already being throttled! got the 10GB data plan too. At 11GB ;(.that's from using Netflix once and steaming Pandora Radio, daily use! Not to crazy! Really wish they would do away with the data throttling. I mean come on! These devices use alot of data! One thing I like about Sprint! No slow down or charges for using alot of data! With faster speeds.brings faster slow down! Total BS!
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...wow u must have watch alot of pron...i got the same plan, and i'm at 8 gigs, and i been letting people at work using my wifi hotspot to do youtube and surfing around, i use it to download stuff (pron) too and it only at 8 gigs...check ur widget or something...jeez

I guarantee that if you stop using netflix you'll be fine.. I mean Effin a bro, a movie is likely to be around a gig in size, what do you expect lol

Dude how the hell do you use all that data I have 5gig plan and use it alot and never break 4gigs I mean I know you're streaming ****. But damn! Use wifi when you're at the house!

Last month was my first with the GS2, used about 11GB (10,980 megabytes). Mainly with Netflix daily at the gym, google music and ROM downloading. It's just so hard to do wifi when it's slower then the network.
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Use wifi or get throttled. None of the providers could support such high volume users without having network issues for everyone

jim93 said:
Use wifi or get throttled. None of the providers could support such high volume users without having network issues for everyone
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Meh.. I doubt high data users consist of more than 5 percent of wireless customers. Plus if it's not really unlimited they shouldn't be a ***** and mislead us like that. I was sooo pissed the day I found out about throttling

thephunk said:
Last month was my first with the GS2, used about 11GB (10,980 megabytes). Mainly with Netflix daily at the gym, google music and ROM downloading. It's just so hard to do wifi when it's slower then the network.
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What are you doing streaming Netflix at the gym?

xbanhcuonx said:
What are you doing streaming Netflix at the gym?
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They're prob propping their phone on the treadmill or something

You guys are lucky... you know when your going to get throttled, I don't. I only know when I get the Top 5% text.
And you also feel my pain, LTE is like 3x faster (I have 24/3 at home, LTE usually gets around 45/60 down and 15 up), I download all the time on LTE.
I hate having to be stingy about data usage.

darkside79 said:
Dam just got my galaxy s2 on the 8th and i'm already being throttled! got the 10GB data plan too. At 11GB ;(.that's from using Netflix once and steaming Pandora Radio, daily use! Not to crazy! Really wish they would do away with the data throttling. I mean come on! These devices use alot of data! One thing I like about Sprint! No slow down or charges for using alot of data! With faster speeds.brings faster slow down! Total BS!
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RESOLUTION FOR THIS? If you change your data plan after 2 hours it restarts you MB counter.
Call, and ask to be switched to the 10gb BB plan [they future date if you downsize], wait 2 hours, call and swap back to android :x

hunterjay7 said:
RESOLUTION FOR THIS? If you change your data plan after 2 hours it restarts you MB counter.
Call, and ask to be switched to the 10gb BB plan [they future date if you downsize], wait 2 hours, call and swap back to android :x
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No it doesn't. You are mistaken.. It only adds to your current data if you go up in limit, it doesn't "restart" your mb counter. They cannot reset it at all.
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I didnt say go up, i said just chamge to a different kind of the same data package. Backdating the change resets it. (i worked there)
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hunterjay7 said:
I didnt say go up, i said just chamge to a different kind of the same data package. Backdating the change resets it. (i worked there)
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That's cool if you "worked" there. But your knowledge is incorrect. There's no way a rep or supervisor can reset data. They can add to it if you change your data plan to a higher cap, but they can't reset it. And if you do go up and change back before the month is up, you drop back to your old cap and remain at the same usage.
I know this for a fact. Trust me.
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The Epic is my Only Computer

I am typing this on a laptop that I am getting ready to sell because I really do not use it much any more since I have bought my E4GT. These phones have come a long way since I last tried to do this on an HTC Thunderbolt. And with Sprint's unlimited data I found it was just as expensive to have an non data phone and a cable internet connection.
Just wondering how many of you out there are using your Epic 4G touch as your only computer and how you have it tweaked.
I have:
A 32GB SD Card
Installed Unnamed ROM
A six foot USB to Micro cable so I can more easily plug it in while I am at coffee shops.
A Karpus clamp stand
A Casemate case
Planning to get:
Full size USB adaptor
HDMI out adpator

Your nuts. Your going to regret it
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There's no way I could use the E4GT like that. Yes, it has come a long way but to replace a laptop? Not for me at least. I also have the 32GB sd card and an MHL adapter. I could see it replacing a tablet but that's about it. At the same time I'm a college student so of course I have different look at it.

Hahahaha! Why? What would you miss?
I have to say, I was a network engineer in the late 90's with Cisco Systems and when I left that job I got rid of all computers, my tv, and only had a land line phone. I did that for two years and it was a good break.
I guess I should also say I am pretty much bored with the internet. I do not play games and I just use it for email and other communication. The voice recognition makes writing pretty smooth. I loved skype and google video chat and I have that on the phone.
I am also going to be traveling for an extended period with pretty much just a backpack so it lightens the load extremely well. Plus the camera on this thing is fun, check out my pics, I took all of these on the phone:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/113449280935158277907/albums/posts

All you need is a bluetooth mouse, keyboard and a monitor.

What about Odin? You may need it when you least expect it. I hardly ever use mine either but when my last one was broken, I had to rely on a friend when a ROM I tried went nuts
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I flashed a bad kernel that hosed my recovery as well, I had to dust off the ol computer and do an odin.

JohnCorleone said:
What about Odin? You may need it when you least expect it. I hardly ever use mine either but when my last one was broken, I had to rely on a friend when a ROM I tried went nuts
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Yeah, that is the one thing that gives me a little but of concern. But UnNamed ROM has been very solid but I am continuing to test so if I need I can go back to Stock if I start traveling. And if Sprint lets out an update without CIQ I will probably load that in case my hardware breaks and I need to take it into sprint.
But I do have the stock EG30 ROM with the one click installer on an USB stick which I can always use in case of an emergency.

I've used nothing but a phone or a tablet instead of a p.c. for well over a year, now.
To be honest, it's not really about the Android device that I'm on, it's more about the apps I have installed, and about the connection speed in which I can connect to the Internet:
My "substitute ET4G for computer" doesn't really seem too much different than my "substitute Evo3d for computer", or even my "substitute Evo4G for computer", as far as just getting things done...
(It's not really the device that matters, in that respect.)
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I still have a computer, but my main device has been a mobile device for well over 2 years. Now, between my tablet and my phone, my computer is used almost solely to stream netflix to my tv and as a music server for my stereo rig. I will prolly keep it around for the foreseeable future, but it gets less and less use.

Are you hurting for money or something? Why would you sell your laptop? Doesn't make sense.
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kingsway8605 said:
Are you hurting for money or something? Why would you sell your laptop? Doesn't make sense.
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Well, I am not hurting for money but I do prefer a simpler life. I try to live on less than $1100 a month and add I said,I will be traveling light the next few months so getting rid of six pounds is huge. Plus the extra cash would pay for most of my train travel.
But, when I do find my next place to live I will probably build a low power desktop.
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kingsway8605 said:
Are you hurting for money or something? Why would you sell your laptop? Doesn't make sense.
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I have 2 laptops, and 2 desktops in my house that I rarely, if ever, touch.
Yet I spend a great deal of my free time on the internet, and doing "computer work".
Why is it so hard to believe that someone might want to get rid of something that they almost never use?
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crzchn said:
Well, I am not hurting for money but I do prefer a simpler life. I try to live on less than $1100 a month and add I said,I will be traveling light the next few months so getting rid of six pounds is huge. Plus the extra cash would pay for most of my train travel.
But, when I do find my next place to live I will probably build a low power desktop.
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I am a property manager in SoCal. If you end up in Cali, let me know and I will give you an XDA move in special... full bar 4g area too! Lol
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I agree but what if u need odin. My computer just runs odin and netflix
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srgwidowmaker said:
I agree but what if u need odin. My computer just runs odin and netflix
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I am finding more and more people are using very powerful computers for very few things. I think I am going to start building loew end custom PC's for running "netflix and ODIN".

crzchn said:
I am finding more and more people are using very powerful computers for very few things. I think I am going to start building loew end custom PC's for running "netflix and ODIN".
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Google chrome preinstalled and default would be nice too.

I have the fastest AMD comp u can prettu much build. 6 cores overclocked to 4.2 Ghz i use it when i need to download some things that dont work over phone, craigs list and building simple websites some times. Also i use odin of course. Backing up picturea and music. Its atleast $1, 500 state of the art comp i build. Sadly i use it maybe 3x a month. If i had to choose only 1 device id use my phone. Phones are amazing now that i got this GSII

I traded in my beloved Dell XPS1710 for an Iconia Tab last April. Most of my "computer work" on my laptop was just surfing and email. I still have a home built desktop that I use for work (development) that just can't be done on a tab or phone.
Now I have the E4GT and I do fine with 95% of my needs. If I were not a developer, I probably wouldn't need the PC at all. But there are a few things that I just need the PC for, (DVD buring comes to mind).

I'm somewhere in between. Have my laptop with a 24" external monitor at the office and use my SGSII when I'm at home. If I need some serious power or screen real estate I just take the laptop home with me. Laptop for work, phone for entertainment ;-)

Tethering with the Nitro

This may be a generic Android question and not so much a Nitro issue, but I'm new to android so I apologize if it's out of line.
I see that there are ways to tether built right into my stock software, but I'm afraid if I use them AT&T will pick it up and switch me from my Unlimited Data plan to a tethering plan. I've been told about PdaNet 3.0, but haven't yet downloaded that. Any thoughts?

They probably will. I would wait until there is a version of CWM or some other close to vanilla Android build for the phone personally.

dbjungle said:
They probably will. I would wait until there is a version of CWM or some other close to vanilla Android build for the phone personally.
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Thanks for the reply, but it's a little over my head. From my minimal Android knowledge I think CWM means ClockWorkMod, but I don't really know what that is. I've got some learning to do.
I do get your point though.

AllstarE4 said:
This may be a generic Android question and not so much a Nitro issue, but I'm new to android so I apologize if it's out of line.
I see that there are ways to tether built right into my stock software, but I'm afraid if I use them AT&T will pick it up and switch me from my Unlimited Data plan to a tethering plan. I've been told about PdaNet 3.0, but haven't yet downloaded that. Any thoughts?
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been tethering with the native app for a while (edited the entitlement check line to activate it). No problems here. I don't abuse it though, just basic web browsing when i tether.

Yeah, CWM is ClockWorkMod. Basically, it's something dev's can use as a platform to create files to flash to your phone (including software that will take everthing back to stock if you mess up). It also provides a relatively simple, if initially intimidating, way for a user to install roms and other mods that devs provide.
Once CWM is on a phone, developers are able to make much cooler things to play with, from streamlined and customized stock roms, to completely different roms such as AOSP (Android Open Source Project) roms. These are stock android roms. You also can get CyanogenMod roms (Such as CM9 which is Icce Cream Sandwich) ported to your phone at that point. The AOSP and CM roms can take a while to get here, but devs can sometimes slip goodies like tethering into a customized version of the stock rom (the one from LG). They did on my phone anyway.
On any relatively new phone, there's always the wait till CWM is ported to the phone. After that, things pick up rapidly.
Hope this helps. I remember asking the same question (and many more like it). You get the hang of it real fast.

dalamchops said:
been tethering with the native app for a while (edited the entitlement check line to activate it). No problems here. I don't abuse it though, just basic web browsing when i tether.
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How did you edit the entitlement check? I probably still won't do it, but I am very curious. I don't trust carrier and manufacturer customized roms.
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How did you edit the entitlement check? I probably still won't do it, but I am very curious. I don't trust carrier and manufacturer customized roms.
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Check out page 6/7 in the LG Nitro Root thread in the dev section. You have to trigger the hotspot on once, to get AT&T to tell u that u don't have the proper plan, and the line will appear in line 66.
setting storange/settings.db/secure
Get there using SQLite editor.

E_Man,
When I get back to my computer I'll hit the thanks button. I have a lot to learn, but here's how I equate some of it.
Is CWM kinda like Cydia on the iPhone? I jailbroke my 3GS a few different times, but this android stuff is all Greek to me. There was always a tutorial to be found with every new jailbreak, but I've only seen one for rooting the Nitro and it's still over my head.
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Actually, using iphone terminology, cwm would be more like open iboot or something. It's a recovery mode that allows you to back up, restore, or install roms. There is no cydia equivalent in android afaik. Almost all the cool tools, tweaks, and apps are available in the market. Rooting is pretty much the same thing as jailbreaking.
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Malnilion said:
Actually, using iphone terminology, cwm would be more like open iboot or something. It's a recovery mode that allows you to back up, restore, or install roms. There is no cydia equivalent in android afaik. Almost all the cool tools, tweaks, and apps are available in the market. Rooting is pretty much the same thing as jailbreaking.
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Ah I see. I have noticed that most of the things I had to jailbreak for are already in the android marketplace. The availability of all of that and the freedoms that android offers are what made me ditch iOS. The main reason, though, is because I kept hearing how supportive the android community is. So far you guys seem pretty helpful. It's on me to learn as much as I can. I just have to find the right spot to start gaining info. Much of what I've come across is over my head.

You picked a good phone to convert to. The display on this phone is AMAZING!!! My HTC Inspire looks like a VGA monitor to me now.
Is anyone else using the built in tether option? Any foul play from AT&T?

I'm using it. Don't abuse much (other then listening pandora radio on laptop 8 hours a day), but other then that basic web browsing. So far so good, nothing from ATT (yet I already received sms when had Atrix, but then I was streaming movies from my computer at home, was going 20gb a month. Now I'm about 10gb a month (which I know is high), but it's all because of pandora, it would be the same if I was using phone's app for that anyway.
Although I'm not on contract and won't loose sleep if I have to switch company, for what I pay now I sure can find a better deal elsewhere.

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I'm using it. Don't abuse much (other then listening pandora radio on laptop 8 hours a day), but other then that basic web browsing. So far so good, nothing from ATT (yet I already received sms when had Atrix, but then I was streaming movies from my computer at home, was going 20gb a month. Now I'm about 10gb a month (which I know is high), but it's all because of pandora, it would be the same if I was using phone's app for that anyway.
Although I'm not on contract and won't loose sleep if I have to switch company, for what I pay now I sure can find a better deal elsewhere.
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Wow, nice. I am usually under 3 GB, but tethering on my HSPA+ Inspire was hardly a good experience. I'm sure I'll get above that if I tether on my Nitro. Glad to know you can get around 10 GB without them flipping out on you. I was under the impression you'll receive the SMS right over 5 GB.

Are you guys also on the unlimited data plan without the tethering feature?

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I was under the impression you'll receive the SMS right over 5 GB.
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I forgot to mention I'm in non-LTE area. Also as far as I can remember for at least 2 years, after 15th of each month they slow down the network from about 10am to 7pm from 800kb/sec to 80, regardless of my usage. Still its fast enough for pandora and little web browsing.

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I'm using it. Don't abuse much (other then listening pandora radio on laptop 8 hours a day), but other then that basic web browsing. So far so good, nothing from ATT (yet I already received sms when had Atrix, but then I was streaming movies from my computer at home, was going 20gb a month. Now I'm about 10gb a month (which I know is high), but it's all because of pandora, it would be the same if I was using phone's app for that anyway.
Although I'm not on contract and won't loose sleep if I have to switch company, for what I pay now I sure can find a better deal elsewhere.
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Wait a minute... You use 10GB a month tethering and don't get hassled by AT&T? I was told that with Android devices they can't detect whether or not you're tethering or just using alot with certain apps. It must be true.

I'm gonna try it out.
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Well perhaps they know that I have noting to lose and will cancel my account if they try something.
Already paying way too much for what I get compare to other carriers.

Haha if that were their thinking I would never sign a contract again.
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I got data throttled

I hit about 5.5gb with 9 days left in my month. It's SLOW now. Went from 17mb download to 56k download speed.

Very exciting...is there a reason you are making a new post here for it?

It would appear for no other reason then to annoy you.
I though some people would like to know how slow TMO throttles it's subs.

Everyone already knew though.

I guess it depends what plan he's on. If its unlimited, then yes, we have a problem.

Good to know. 56k is brutal
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If you're not on the unlimited plan then get on it, it's a real easy fix to a real stupid problem.
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hate to be "that guy"..oh wait no i dont..ha.
ya this is locked,everyone here knows about the throttle.