[Q] Thoughts on the T-Mobile data throttling - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Let's put our heads together a bit. There is a method to defeat the throttling on the G2X. This proves that the throttling is client-side, not server-side. Does this mean that the throttling on the G2 is still done locally (on the phone) too?

Fail from top to bottom.
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Wrong section. Should be in Q&A.
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It is what it is....if you buy a gallon of milk, are you mad when its gone?
You know what you have, work with it.
If I need more than 2gb or 5gb, I would get home service and/or take advantage of wifi somewhere.
I personally dont like it but it is what it is. Adjust......
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2gb or 5gb you guys on tmous are lucky, our standard data plans in the uk come with 500mb or 750mb if your lucky. I have 1.5gb but it costs me an extra £10 on top of my base tariff.
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I agree with dwny, if you need more than the prescribed amount find a wifi hotspot or shell out for a static cable or dsl connection.
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Disagree totally a dev topic since it is system and coding related. please bring in link to g2x data throttling fix. If I Pay for an unlimited plan I don't want it limited.

Lol! That's too funny... Hey, I'd resurrect my old fix if it still worked and it would be it would be visible on the first page of our thread like it always was but its all controlled server side now. The guy in G2X thread hasn't had any real results because its based off my old hack. On occasion, a person will get the throttle message after going over their limit and not get throttled. That's just by luck and not by an edited services.jar.... just be wise and use as much data on wifi as you can and watch your limit. If you really need more, tmobile is offering a 10 GB data plan now for $60 lol! I know... its a rip off but its there if you really need it and don't have access to a real ISP...

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Whats the funnest way to rack up a ton of data usage?

Besides the obvious Tethering and downloading torrents whats the best,fastest and or easiest way to use alot of data on sprint's "unlimited" data plan? I don't have any other wireless devices so I can't tether and download stuff.
wasd321 said:
Besides the obvious Tethering and downloading torrents whats the best,fastest and or easiest way to use alot of data on sprint's "unlimited" data plan? I don't have any other wireless devices so I can't tether and download stuff.
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Go HERE, they have assorted files you can d/l up to 1gb in size
wasd321 said:
Besides the obvious Tethering and downloading torrents whats the best,fastest and or easiest way to use alot of data on sprint's "unlimited" data plan? I don't have any other wireless devices so I can't tether and download stuff.
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It would probably be best to answer to what it is you're trying to accomplish. Why else not use the simplest method to get data high? Doesn't make sense.
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SteelH said:
Go HERE, they have assorted files you can d/l up to 1gb in size
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Awesome thank you!
SharkUW said:
It would probably be best to answer to what it is you're trying to accomplish. Why else not use the simplest method to get data high? Doesn't make sense.
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I want to test out this "unlimited data" theory and also in hopes that they cancel me so I won't have to pay a hefty early cancellation fee
Why in the world world world you need to get out high. Seems like yoy could just use the phone for whatever you need and call it good.
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thekarens said:
Why in the world world world you need to get out high. Seems like yoy could just use the phone for whatever you need and call it good.
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get out high? I don't understand what that means lol um is that a song?
wasd321 said:
Awesome thank you!
I want to test out this "unlimited data" theory and also in hopes that they cancel me so I won't have to pay a hefty early cancellation fee
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Good luck, I did 26GB in June, didn't hear a peep out of Sprint.
SteelH said:
Good luck, I did 26GB in June, didn't hear a peep out of Sprint.
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hmm doing what?
Stream Slingbox 24/7
ntron1 said:
Stream Slingbox 24/7
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I would love to but I can't afford a television financially or mentally.
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hmm doing what?
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Newsgroups over wifi tether.
Constantly download ISOs for Linux distros off of Easynews... http://mirrors.easynews.com
Will rack up the data FAST.
ok i must edit my question to: whats the funnest way to rack up a ton of data usage cuz im bored out of my mind downloading 1 gig files lolz
They won't let you out of a contract that easily. They make too much off of you. But they might work harder at approving an across-the-board usage cap for everybody and/or throttle our connections. And we'll have fools like you to thank. Maybe you should just learn to manage your finances if you signed a contract you couldn't afford just to get a new phone. Or do you just not like the phone or Sprint?
SilverZero said:
They won't let you out of a contract that easily. They make too much off of you. But they might work harder at approving an across-the-board usage cap for everybody and/or throttle our connections. And we'll have fools like you to thank. Maybe you should just learn to manage your finances if you signed a contract you couldn't afford just to get a new phone. Or do you just not like the phone or Sprint?
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+1. Seriously, instead of being a **** and potentially screwing the rest of us you could just man-up or wait for some tiny change in Sprint's contact that allows you to get off for free.
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A guy mentioned he had done over 100 gigs with 3G...so good luck. Also I can't remember if it was Sprint but someone just recently changed their contract and people were mentioning it would be a way out...you might look into that. Or find someone to buy your phone and take over your contract...they're still hard to find.
Damn guys, dont be so hard on the fellow. One persson cant **** it up for the rest of us...however if we
all start doin it, or maybe i dunno..a group of people..then. but thats not going to happen, i think the majority of us is just a little smater than that.
*This was posted from my Evo 4G*
SilverZero said:
They won't let you out of a contract that easily. They make too much off of you. But they might work harder at approving an across-the-board usage cap for everybody and/or throttle our connections. And we'll have fools like you to thank. Maybe you should just learn to manage your finances if you signed a contract you couldn't afford just to get a new phone. Or do you just not like the phone or Sprint?
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um Sprint is kinda sucky around here, Tmobile and VZW have better data coverage so ya calm down broski
wasd321 said:
um Sprint is kinda sucky around here, Tmobile and VZW have better data coverage so ya calm down broski
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You should planned your purchase.
Don't bother trying to hit the cap, since you pay $10 a month you really do have unlimited internet.
BETTER OPTION: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7232572#post7232572
thats a really cool option. Thxxx
mrono said:
You should planned your purchase.
Don't bother trying to hit the cap, since you pay $10 a month you really do have unlimited internet.
BETTER OPTION: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7232572#post7232572
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*This was posted from my Evo 4G*

? About data/tethering

Hey guys, just wondering how much data would be acceptable for tethering use to my tablet. I know sprint is unlimited data but can't I get kicked off if they find out I'm tethering illegally or whatever by using to much data? Just wondering because I used about 2 gigs in just about 4 days tethering so I don't want to use too much over the next month and get my whole family kicked off the network. Thanks.
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Ive used more than 50gigs this month . Sorry guys =D i really needed to download some things. Anyways it doesnt matter how much data you use just dont go hitting 200gigs a month and you will be fine.
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fadimo305 said:
Ive used more than 50gigs this month . Sorry guys =D i really needed to download some things. Anyways it doesnt matter how much data you use just dont go hitting 200gigs a month and you will be fine.
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Through tethering though or it doesnt matter? Thanks
Between Slacker, youtube, nav, netflix, and all the other things I've started using since I got my E4GT in November, I started burning through an average of 5 gigs a month just in on-phone use.
They can't differentiate between on-phone and 'non-sanctioned' tethered usage except when you use a truly unrealistic volume of data. The guy who burned 50 gigs downloading torrents or whatever is an idiot because that is OBVIOUSLY tethered usage. People like him are the ones that are going to ruin it for all of us. People like him will be to blame when Sprint drops unlimited on-phone.
Taz420nj said:
Between Slacker, youtube, nav, netflix, and all the other things I've started using since I got my E4GT in November, I started burning through an average of 5 gigs a month just in on-phone use.
They can't differentiate between on-phone and 'non-sanctioned' tethered usage except when you use a truly unrealistic volume of data. The guy who burned 50 gigs downloading torrents or whatever is an idiot because that is OBVIOUSLY tethered usage. People like him are the ones that are going to ruin it for all of us. People like him will be to blame when Sprint drops unlimited on-phone.
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Thanks for the reply but yea I was just worried about using too much data and getting my fam kicked off sprint. I used 500 mb today alone tethering to my tablet so I was curious what sort of limit i should stop myself at. Being on the ICS leaks, I put the data limit using the built in settings app for 10 gigs. Do you think that would be too much even?
rsalinas1 said:
Thanks for the reply but yea I was just worried about using too much data and getting my fam kicked off sprint. I used 500 mb today alone tethering to my tablet so I was curious what sort of limit i should stop myself at. Being on the ICS leaks, I put the data limit using the built in settings app for 10 gigs. Do you think that would be too much even?
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NO, I have hit 10 several times with just my phone.
I agree, 10 wouldn't be out of the question given the type of data-burning apps we have at our leisure. It would be at the high end, but absolutely reasonable.
On 3g I hit 8gb on 4g I hit 7gb and that's since I found out about foxfi no root required just download and run it its a free tethering app
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I would not worry about it on a tablet , but tethered to a xbox or laptop etc they can tell the difference in your usage so go easy on said devices if you use them tethered ..
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I got data throttled

I hit about 5.5gb with 9 days left in my month. It's SLOW now. Went from 17mb download to 56k download speed.
Very exciting...is there a reason you are making a new post here for it?
It would appear for no other reason then to annoy you.
I though some people would like to know how slow TMO throttles it's subs.
Everyone already knew though.
I guess it depends what plan he's on. If its unlimited, then yes, we have a problem.
Good to know. 56k is brutal
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If you're not on the unlimited plan then get on it, it's a real easy fix to a real stupid problem.
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hate to be "that guy"..oh wait no i dont..ha.
ya this is locked,everyone here knows about the throttle.

Heads Up! Warning Letter: WiFi Tether app

Hey folks!
I just got a warning letter from Sprint. They're threatening to disable service for tethering. I did a bit of searching on the forums and have seen similar threads, but thought I'd contribute so others wouldn't get flagged like I did.
I'm using CM9 Beta 1 (older version), with FL24 modem, and using WiFi Tether app to tether. Data usage for September so far has been 4.66 GB. Specific usage for data (from tethering) primarily involves web browsing, Youtube videos, Hulu, and playing Guild Wars 2 x3/week for less than 3 hour sessions each.
I'm not sure what all they can or cannot track, so I will try a newer CM9 or CM10 and use wired tethering instead to see if that helps. If I get terminated, oh well. After surcharges and tax, I'm paying 160 for two lines. The other phone on the line is a basic flip phone, of all things. I use tethering since it's more ideal than the campus wifi here.
If push comes to shove and I get terminated, I'll check out T-Mobile since their signal is strong-ish in this area. Not sure what factor/s caused the flag letter, but just posting the info so you could perhaps avoid it!
Good luck folks! :highfive:
They will be able to tell that you are tethering, it doesn't matter what ROM you are using or how you are tethering.
All of the information is in the packets that are being sent on the network. Everything from what browser you are using, operating system, which version of flash/java you have installed, etc...
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Mattix724 said:
They will be able to tell that you are tethering, it doesn't matter what ROM you are using or how you are tethering.
All of the information is in the packets that are being sent on the network. Everything from what browser you are using, operating system, which version of flash/java you have installed, etc...
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Thanks for the info. From all the searching I've done across several different forums, this seems to be a consistent but very RANDOM problem (the letter). I wonder if they just do random checks on random people?? I saw a guy get a flag letter for using 100+GB, but I'm below 5GB. Is anyone else getting this letter?
Mattix724 said:
They will be able to tell that you are tethering, it doesn't matter what ROM you are using or how you are tethering.
All of the information is in the packets that are being sent on the network. Everything from what browser you are using, operating system, which version of flash/java you have installed, etc...
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The real question is what they are looking at. Truth is we probably won't know and things change.
Just looking at user agent strings in post and get requests will result in false positives when a user has their android browser using a Windows Chrome user agent string. Its not terribly intensive to spot check traffic on port 80 to see whats going on but probably not the most efficient or fool proof way. Especially when the heavier users of the network are not just casually using a web browser.
Desktop Youtube and Hulu are likely to raise flags. Even the most passive of monitoring will catch these 2. When a tower experiences any amount of unusual congestion someone is likely to take a look at why and see something usual triggers won't notify on. More active solutions are likely to notice an account without tethering connecting to a known game server IP on a known port. Not so much a problem with say hosted FPS servers more of a problem with MMO's.
If they know exactly what they want to look for its very easy to put an automated solution in place. They don't always know what a user is doing on the network and spot checks during unusual congestion will turn things up. All from network administration point of view less of an accurate carrier view though.
Hey guys an update on what I did.
I just got back and found an OK deal. I'm not sure what you guys were paying for Sprint, but I was paying (after taxes and surcharges) 160/mo. for two lines, unlimited data + 2k non cell-to-cell mins and unlimited everything else. I ended up going T-Mobile and it's looking like the bill will be around 130/mo for 3, not 2 lines. One will have unlimited data, the other two are basic flip phones. Everything else is unlimited.
After bugging the living crap out of the representative and asking repeatedly throughout the sales process, it seems like they have a more flexible, less technical data plan. If this is not true, I'll necro this thread sometime to let everyone know.
Although the 130/mo for 3 lines looks good on paper, I did have to put down (after taxes) $430 for the three phones (GS-4, x2 basic flip phones) - not a pretty amount. After bugging them about how much it cost, they at least gave me a zagg screen protector and some crappy.. body armor? body guard? phone case. Not bad.
I mentioned my usage with tethering in the original post. Should things go sour the same way it did with Sprint, I'll update this thread and let everyone know what happened in detail. Supposedly the rep at the store was an avid user for tethering as well, though he only hinted it, telling me there's little for me to worry from his 'personal' experience.
On another note, I did have an incident with Sprint in the past. My phone was evidently set on automatic connection and Sprint literally kicked my phone off the plan for something they called 'excessive roaming'. They claimed they sent me a warning letter beforehand.. and I'm sure they did. My desk is a mess. The guy over at T-Mobile told me roaming was truly unlimited, but I won't take my chances just in case.
Data speed differences in the Denver Metropolitan area are significant. Speed Test shows around 1.5mbps DL Sprint WiMax, 8.16mbps DL T-Mobile "LTE" (Someone told me T-Mobile LTE isn't 'real' LTE. Not sure on this). 10 tests each were done and averaged. 5 tests indoors, 5 tests outdoors.
Thanks for the responses/input - it helped me make my decision. This forum has always been nothing short of awesome. :good:

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Does anyone know away around Verizon seeing how much data you use before they slow you down or if your tethering .I have unlimited but it's gets throttled looking for away around that .
1981greg said:
Does anyone know away around Verizon seeing how much data you use before they slow you down or if your tethering .I have unlimited but it's gets throttled looking for away around that .
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You can use the Verizon app to see how much data your using. As far as finding a way around them monitoring your data usage, that, I don't know. Probably illegal anyway
Badger50 said:
You can use the Verizon app to see how much data your using. As far as finding a way around them monitoring your data usage, that, I don't know. Probably illegal anyway
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Thanks for the reply I didn't think of it being illegal really but makes sense trying to delete post but don't see an option
Badger50 said:
You can use the Verizon app to see how much data your using. As far as finding a way around them monitoring your data usage, that, I don't know. Probably illegal anyway
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Not sure how it's illegal as it's an unlimited data plan. As far as carriers monitoring usage to effectively kill an unlimited plan they profited from by advertising it is probably actually "illegal" or misleading advertising. I really think these carriers should be pressured to change the wording of their "unlimited" plans through the CFPB or whatever they are calling themselves these days. Unlikely nthis will happen due to the current political atmosphere.
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Not sure how it's illegal as it's an unlimited data plan. As far as carriers monitoring usage to effectively kill an unlimited plan they profited from by advertising it is probably actually "illegal" or misleading advertising. I really think these carriers should be pressured to change the wording of their "unlimited" plans through the CFPB or whatever they are calling themselves these days. Unlikely nthis will happen due to the current political atmosphere.
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how is it misleading? it is in their TOS when you sign up for whatever plan. I know that if I use over 50GB on tmobile i can be throttled, i still can use data even if it is slower, so therefore it is still unlimited. Their plans are't titled UNLIMITED HIGH SPEED DATA. These unlimited plans are Not like the some of the old school plans that just cut you off, or end up charging you extra for data you go over.
1981greg said:
Thanks for the reply I didn't think of it being illegal really but makes sense trying to delete post but don't see an option
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It's not illegal but does violate the TOS agreement from the carrier. At the same time hiding a tethered connection is futile. It's simply impossible to hide as carriers have at least half a dozen different ways of detecting it.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
It's not illegal but does violate the TOS agreement from the carrier. At the same time hiding a tethered connection is futile. It's simply impossible to hide as carriers have at least half a dozen different ways of detecting it.
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Ok thanks I realize now bad idea does anyone know how I can delete this post
https://labs.xda-developers.com/store/app/be.mygod.vpnhotspot
You will also need to connected a vpn that has decent speeds.
PrivateInternetAccess works pretty good and it is like $30 per year with a coupon, search slickdeals.net or some other similar site for code. Plus PIA you can change the packet size if verizon is looking for that.
1981greg said:
Ok thanks I realize now bad idea does anyone know how I can delete this post
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Relax, you are not going to jail. You asked a question, and did nothing.
1981greg said:
Ok thanks I realize now bad idea does anyone know how I can delete this post
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You can't delete a post. You can edit it to something like "delete" if you want but once you're quoted then it's on your permanent record. A mod can delete it too. But as you've been told you did nothing wrong. Don't sweat it.
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You can't delete a post. You can edit it to something like "delete" if you want but once you're quoted then it's on your permanent record. A mod can delete it too. But as you've been told you did nothing wrong. Don't sweat it.
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Thanks guys just didn't want look like a dumbass lol probably too late thanks for the info
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how is it misleading? it is in their TOS when you sign up for whatever plan. I know that if I use over 50GB on tmobile i can be throttled, i still can use data even if it is slower, so therefore it is still unlimited. Their plans are't titled UNLIMITED HIGH SPEED DATA. These unlimited plans are Not like the some of the old school plans that just cut you off, or end up charging you extra for data you go over.
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So I go to an all you can eat buffet for lunch. I eat 2 plates of cream of somyungui. Then I would like another. I go back to find out that after 2 plates I must now wait till dinner to have another. Also I have to wait until everyone else ate. When I can finally have another plate I find there is hardly any left and it takes a long time to get what I had during lunch.
This is not unlimited. Carriers are spinning the meaning of the word. We saw this before the prior net neutrality laws were passed several years ago. Unlimited to start, then so slow you think the website is down, or it just times out all together.
I do agree with others that the carriers will know if you are tethering or not regardless. The real question is if you root and unlock native tethering, will they force a "tethering fee" assuming you didn't have such fee when you signed your contract.
Don't make analogies. They're never 100% equivalent to what you're trying to compare it to.
Throttling ≠ data cut off. It sucks but it's still unlimited data.
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@EeZeEpEe: The guy is trolling, and the facts you have provided he will ignore as they don't fit his narrative. The main reason I haven't replied to him is because he is being intellectually dishonest. He knows full well that the carriers aren't abusing the definition of unlimited like they did in 2010.
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@EeZeEpEe: The guy is trolling, and the facts you have provided he will ignore as they don't fit his narrative. The main reason I haven't replied to him is because he is being intellectually dishonest. He knows full well that the carriers aren't abusing the definition of unlimited like they did in 2010.
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They're not?
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/...could-go-unpunished-because-fcc-repealed-open
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/...less-carriers-over-youtube-netflix-throttling
I don't see above where anyone provided facts to back up their argument. Since u mad, (The main reason I haven't replied to him is because he is being intellectually dishonest), here is clear evidence of abuse. I would also argue that this is the worst case of throttling ever and the next closest is the AT&T/FaceTime fiasco. All under the guise of various tiers of 'unlimited' data. Check out the wehe app. It helped with studies on this exact topic, including Senate oversight committee sending questions to the major carriers.
@cedargreen: Mad? That would mean I had feelings on the topic. The reality is I just call it as I see it. Your first post in this thread is nothing but a strawman argument, thus you are being intellectually dishonest. Now, you clearly must be bored if you have to respond to a post that as of this writing is four months old. I don't go out of my way to feed trolls, so we're done here.

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